Khan vs Kotelnik - who wins ?

[UKITAZ]

Dont ask me why, but i think this is a fight ****** will try and make. he wont risk Khan with Marquez or Valero. Khan is big lw, has the WBA continental belt or whatever it is and Kotelnik is lww WBA champion. so the WBA would probably authorise it.

Im biased because im a friend of Andriys, but he's a wiley operator, has great defense and seems to figure out his opponents. And whilst im sure most people would pick Khan to win, im convinced Kotelnik would take him.

Please debate !

[GStalker]

Kotelnik will win this. He is a strong and experienced fighter and has decent but underrated punch.

[rooq]

i can't see this happening - theres much less risky fights for ****** to make.

if it was made i'd back kotelnik to stop khan

[dwilson]

Khan is unbeatable and will destroy Kotelink inside 4 rounds.


I doubt anyone will come close to beating Khan for years and expect him to win belts all the way to super middle.

[Flea Man]

Kotelnik by stoppage.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Khan is unbeatable and will destroy Kotelink inside 4 rounds.


I doubt anyone will come close to beating Khan for years and expect him to win belts all the way to super middle.

I assume that you are joking and that this is tongue in cheek. Hell in the same vein why stop at Super Middleweight? Khan may go up all the way to heavyweight and dominate. Clearly being put on the floor by Limond, Gomez and stopped by Prescott was a mirage. The real Khan is an all time great. No doubt Pacman, Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Julio Diaz, Shane Mosley et al are petrified of facing the wrath of Khan. In fact I doubt Kotelnik can last a round with Khan.

[abzmanc]

Kotelnik seems a good technical boxer, much too much experience for Khan at the mo and the possibility of a half decent punch connecting could spell trouble. Lesser risks fights are what ****** will be looking for.

[Toney]

I would pick Khan, cos I think that he would be too sharp for Kotelnik.

[UKITAZ]

Looks like Kotelnik is fighting Ortiz in the states on the same card as dzinziruk vs Kirkland, with Chris John also fighting, it should be a great card.

[rumour24tiger]

Yep GBP have their eye on dethrroning Kotelnik for rising star Ortiz.

Kotelnik is touhg, skilled, albeit a bit steady, and knows how to navigate a hard 12 rds. For me he edged Witter and beat Mbaye comfortably. But he does get penalised for the slow starts. Any time he fights a good opponent it will be very close. He has to win the hard way, toughness and skills, which is why I like him.

Khan snappy and fast. But can Khan fight at that pace, use that kind of speed and movement, for 12 hard rounds? We'll see. Maybe we won't see if ****** keeps bringing in burned out smaller opponents!

[Solid Chin]

Fuck Kotelnik he got beat my Medina in his last fight but the judges awarded the fight to Kotelnik who did not deserve it in my opinion

Khan would beat Kotelnik easily, he is not that good of a fighter and Medina showed this. Go and watch the way Medina was taking the fight to him.

[sweetscientist]

i have got to question some of the demoting of kotelnik going on here. i agree that he struggled against medina in his last fight and showed his worst side in that fight...a guy who just doesn't know what to do when the fight is awkward, unevenly paced and sort of touch-and-go. despite that, and i know that many say a fighter is only as good as his last fight, but that didn't stop anyone from paying to see and believe in old man hopkins after he dropped two fights to jermain taylor. that is, not to compare kotelnik to hopkins, but the point remains sound. in any case, kotelnik has never been a finesse fighter, but he's not a dumb brawler either. he is a consummate pressure fighter, generally persistant, hitting anyway and anywhere he can to grind the other guy down, rough with short punches and wrestling on the inside, clever about his dirty tactics (much like b-hop in that one way). kotelnik is very physically strong, has a good chin and, with the notable exception of the fight with medina, always ready to go the distance strong. his punch is underrated because he is a grinder that does not have the foot or handspeed to hop all over a hurt opponent. he just keeps grinding. i think, in a fight with khan it comes down to whether or not khan can control his impulse to jump in on kotelnik and try to stop him. if khan, owning advantages in total speed, youth, reach and versatility, keeps kotelnik at the end of the jab and in the center of the ring, he could box clever and put a clinic on him. however, if he gets in close, goes in for the kill, he is likely to get caught and hurt, not stopped, probably, but hurt enough to be put on the defensive and ground down hard over the remaining rounds by a relentless kotelnik who, if nothing else, knows his limits and knows how he has to win.

[namsu55]

Khan will smash him up.

[cool-cat]

kotenlik would be to physically strong

[Carnage]

I think Khan wins, too quick, if Witter can beat him, so can Khan.

[Buggo]

On Bunce's Boxing hour today, they were asking who is/was the worst World Champion to hold a World Title (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO).

Guess who Khan picked?? :think ;)

[fenian 67]

i dont like khan but i think he beats kotelnik.also if kotelnik is fighting ortiz i think ortiz stops him.i havent seen much of ortiz but he seems explosive

[Dan684]

Buggo who did Khan pick. Was this at L/Weight or across all weights ? I'd say Arthur.

[Livershot09]

Buggo who did Khan pick. Was this at L/Weight or across all weights ? I'd say Arthur.
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They asked Khan,Hatton and Froch who they thought was the worst world champion ever and Amir said Kotelnik.

[UKITAZ]

All these people saying Khan would stop Kotelnik and Ortiz will stop him ?!! .. These are obviously people whi have never seen Kotelnik fight, he is an Olmpic Silver Medallist and never been down, has a great defence with his peak-a-boo style, what makes people think these two hype jobs will stop him ?

[Dan684]

Not a chance, really. I'm on a work comp and its pretty restricted so can't watch vids or take quotes etc etc.. but come on ever ?? Thats very disrespectful. I think Arthur is one of the worst champs of recent times and think Kotelnik would beat him (if they wre same weight). What about some of the heavyweight dross we've had recently ?? Khan has to be more respectful of his opponents. Roach has give him some confidence which is a good thing but he'll lose fans with comments like this and also about the Barrera farse. Saying he was gonna get knocked out if it carried on. Khan looked good but he's never been a knockout artist(he just throws flurries and ref stops) and Barrera has a granite chin. No matter how long that fight went everyone knows if anyone was getting knocked out it was him.

[Tom_Tocca]

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They asked Khan,Hatton and Froch who they thought was the worst world champion ever and Amir said Kotelnik.

It's more like: Who would you want to fight (exept for Hatton) next to get some respect...

[D-MAC]

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They asked Khan,Hatton and Froch who they thought was the worst world champion ever and Amir said Kotelnik.

What about Gavin Rees?!?

Kotelnik beat the crap out of him; it wasn't even that competitive. Is he not a worse world champion?

[rooq]

Not a chance, really. I'm on a work comp and its pretty restricted so can't watch vids or take quotes etc etc.. but come on ever ?? Thats very disrespectful. I think Arthur is one of the worst champs of recent times and think Kotelnik would beat him (if they wre same weight). What about some of the heavyweight dross we've had recently ?? Khan has to be more respectful of his opponents. Roach has give him some confidence which is a good thing but he'll lose fans with comments like this and also about the Barrera farse. Saying he was gonna get knocked out if it carried on. Khan looked good but he's never been a knockout artist(he just throws flurries and ref stops) and Barrera has a granite chin. No matter how long that fight went everyone knows if anyone was getting knocked out it was him.

i wouldn't get worked up about it. they asked the same question of 3 boxers and all gave daft answers. ricky hatton said junior witter, and carl froch said joe calzaghe :nut

[izmat]

I think Khan has been reading this thread

[Odo]

i dont like khan but i think he beats kotelnik.also if kotelnik is fighting ortiz i think ortiz stops him.i havent seen much of ortiz but he seems explosive

Up to now Ortiz has only fought very limited opposition.Always easy to look impressive against limited opposition,dont you think so!
Kotelnik is head and shoulders above Ortiz in terms of defeated opposition. We will see which way the cat alias Ortiz jumps if that cat comes across a mean alley cat which is out to shed blood.

[UKITAZ]

So after me calling this fight weeks ago, its actually happening !! .. All aboard the Kotelnik express -
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[abzmanc]

Lol Khan hardly said it with conviction.

[Odo]

i dont like khan but i think he beats kotelnik.also if kotelnik is fighting ortiz i think ortiz stops him.i havent seen much of ortiz but he seems explosive


What makes you think that Ortiz would stop Kotelnik if they ever fought each other.
Ortiz's fight record is modest.Easy to look good against soft opposition.He cant hold a candle to Kotelnik in terms of collected skaps.Kotelnik has fought top fighters whereas as Ortiz ' s best scalps are a handful of American clubfighters.

As for Khan vs Kotelnik it can really go either way.Kotelnik is really no exceptional fighter,but he is a textbook fighter with almost no flaws.I dont think that Khan has the necessary firepower to stop the Ukranian,neither do I think that Andrej will stop the British based ****stani muslim.
Of course I will root for Kotelnik,but I am not that sure that he will defend his title successfully on British soil against a British based fighter in a close fight.
Well,all in all the Brits are fairer than most other countries out there,but who never know for sure.

[fenian 67]

What makes you think that Ortiz would stop Kotelnik if they ever fought each other.
Ortiz's fight record is modest.Easy to look good against soft opposition.He cant hold a candle to Kotelnik in terms of collected skaps.Kotelnik has fought top fighters whereas as Ortiz ' s best scalps are a handful of American clubfighters.

As for Khan vs Kotelnik it can really go either way.Kotelnik is really no exceptional fighter,but he is a textbook fighter with almost no flaws.I dont think that Khan has the necessary firepower to stop the Ukranian,neither do I think that Andrej will stop the British based ****stani muslim.
Of course I will root for Kotelnik,but I am not that sure that he will defend his title successfully on British soil against a British based fighter in a close fight.
Well,all in all the Brits are fairer than most other countries out there,but who never know for sure.
im sorry but i think ortiz has too much power for kotelnik.i know his record is modest but so was bernard dunnes and he knocked out a better fighter in cordoba than kotelnik is.also kotelnik hasnt beat any world class fighters himself so his record is very modest for a " world champion".being honest i hope kotelnik beats khan but i can see khan avoiding kotelnik for 12 rounds and winning a ud :good

[dwilson]

I have seen Kotelnik fight a few times and he faces Khan no problems. Khan will win inside 4 rounds.

[beecho1988]

Kotelnik KO

[Odo]

I have seen Kotelnik fight a few times and he faces Khan no problems. Khan will win inside 4 rounds.

Khan by ko within the first 4 rounds? :think

You are quite optimistic,dwilson!

[beecho1988]

Kotelnik KO

[tua2001]

everybody are sayuing about kotelnik's too defensive style, but nobody is mentioning character of andreas. he got robbed 3 times by brits-and he knows that only ko or outclassing will give him the victory. so i think he will be able to take that lottery ticket.

[cool-cat]

khan good boxing skills and roachs brain i expect them to win a descision. have to see how well khan does with the extra weight

[faisal]

Kotelniks right hand is going to explode that chin

[p.Townend]

Amir will win i think,Kotelnik is good but he is not a big puncher and likes to score points.Its very clever matchmaking by Khans team.It wont be easy but youth,speed and better skills will win it for Khan.Roach in the corner will be a big plus as well,he will be working away on the perfect stratagey for this fight and this time will be with Amir all the way through the training and fight.

[gasman]

Khan is a good prospect, but this title shot is far too early, he is too ambigious for his own good. Kotelnik knows all about Khan's glass chin. Don't expect Roach to fix all Khan's defensive weaknesses in two fights, it aint goin to happen. Khan will get KO'd.