View Full Version : What if Prescott KTFOs Khan again?!
Decebal
03-18-2009, 03:12 PM
What would your reaction be? To what extent/in which way would it alter your current view of Khan and Prescott?:think
JIM KELLY
03-18-2009, 03:16 PM
de ja vous.
Decebal
03-18-2009, 03:18 PM
de ja vous.
it would be funny if he did it in less than a minute again...:scaredas::-(:scaredas::-(:scaredas:
Depends how the fight would have went.
Decebal
03-18-2009, 03:23 PM
Depends how the fight would have went.
Well...it doesn't matter that much in this case, if it ends in a "brutal" KO...does it...(because that means Khan couldn't get to Prescott and couldn't stop him from implementing his plan with unmitigated success.)
In that case i still think Prescott is shit and Kahns chin is shit too:conf
noonan
03-18-2009, 03:38 PM
I think that would be curtains on khans world champ dreams
Pug1list
03-18-2009, 03:39 PM
Won't fight him before he wins a title, and won't after.
billyk
03-18-2009, 03:47 PM
It wouldn't alter my view of either of them. Prescott, for the most part, has fought pretty poor competition but has KO'd 90% of them. Khan has been rocked by a lot of his opponents. If they ought again, I would expect it to be bedtime or little Amir as soon as Prescott landed.
If it happenned in less than a minute again my reaction probably would be laughter.
I wasn't convinced by Khan's apparent new found defensive awareness. He didn't seem to have any thoughts about how to counter when he was defending and an old, half blind Barrera who had just moved up in weight still wobbled him a couple of times. A younger, busier, bigger hitting fighter would either knock him out or force him into his shell and win the rounds.
izmat
03-18-2009, 03:47 PM
I will just say that Prescott is Khan's bogeyman
BIG WORM
03-18-2009, 03:54 PM
Prescott would bang khan out again, in 1 round.. khan ain't changed that much and still has a glass jaw
Prescott's a class above
i dunno how the fuck khans getting a title shot before Prescott, how has he got back the intercontinental WBO belt, i thought Prescott had it?
kosaros
03-18-2009, 03:59 PM
Look at Joe Frazier vs George Foreman. Joe got blasted out in two rounds in their first fight, did better in the second, but George eventually caught up to him and stopped him in the 5th.
I believe that no matter what Khan does Prescott will eventually catch up to him and knock him out. It would obviously be bad for his reputation, but he would gain respect from me going in the ring again with Prescott.
BoxingFanNo1
03-18-2009, 04:03 PM
Well...it doesn't matter that much in this case, if it ends in a "brutal" KO...does it...(because that means Khan couldn't get to Prescott and couldn't stop him from implementing his plan with unmitigated success.)
I disagree. With this statement you're basically saying that if Khan dominated Prescott for 12 rounds then with 30 seconds left of the 12th Prescott scores his 'Brutal' KO that Khan didn't implement his plan, when for 11 3/4 rounds he did. Not that I think this would happen of course. But people would give him a little credit rather than the childish shit they throw at him right now.
Khan should avoid this guy for 2-3 years imo, see what direction both of their careers take. Right now the risk/reward balance only makes sense in Khans mind.
Pug1list
03-18-2009, 04:10 PM
Prescott would bang khan out again, in 1 round.. khan ain't changed that much and still has a glass jaw
Prescott's a class above
i dunno how the fuck khans getting a title shot before Prescott, how has he got back the intercontinental WBO belt, i thought Prescott had it?
He beat MAB who was ranked no1 by the WBO, what has Prescott been upto lately?
no1 by the WBO :rofl:lol:
kosaros
03-18-2009, 04:13 PM
He beat MAB who was ranked no1 by the WBO, what has Prescott been upto lately?
Boxing on a main event bill in America (which included Gamboa) and getting bitten by his opponent.
Cobbler
03-18-2009, 04:24 PM
de ja vous.
Parley view francez?
BIG WORM
03-18-2009, 04:26 PM
yea but it still don't matter, i thought Prescott had the WBO intercontinental belt, he beat khan when khan was no1.. so how the fuck did Barrera leap frog him!!!!!
don't make sense, prescott should be fighting for the WBO title before khan
billyk
03-18-2009, 04:27 PM
I disagree. With this statement you're basically saying that if Khan dominated Prescott for 12 rounds then with 30 seconds left of the 12th Prescott scores his 'Brutal' KO that Khan didn't implement his plan, when for 11 3/4 rounds he did. Not that I think this would happen of course. But people would give him a little credit rather than the childish shit they throw at him right now.
Khan should avoid this guy for 2-3 years imo, see what direction both of their careers take. Right now the risk/reward balance only makes sense in Khans mind.
If your plan is to not get KO'd then you have to implement it for the whole 12 rounds or you lose, plain and simple.
If Khan dominated an opponent for 11 rounds and still lost, I think that would probably damage him psychologically more than what happenned first time round with Prescott. Michael Nunn was never the same ater getting KO'd by James Toney late on when he was miles ahead on points.
I think he would get more bulshit if that happenned, and most of it would be justified.
noonan
03-18-2009, 04:29 PM
Prescott would bang khan out again, in 1 round.. khan ain't changed that much and still has a glass jaw
Prescott's a class above
i dunno how the fuck khans getting a title shot before Prescott, how has he got back the intercontinental WBO belt, i thought Prescott had it?
Prescott a class above!!
the guy got lucky caught amir cold, then amirs inexperience showed when he got up too quick rather than stayin down on 1 knee till 8,
khan would win a rematch ! obv just my opinion!!
BoxingFanNo1
03-18-2009, 04:30 PM
If your plan is to not get KO'd then you have to implement it for the whole 12 rounds or you lose, plain and simple.
In the history of boxing I've never heard of any boxers plan being 'Not to get KO'd'.
noonan
03-18-2009, 04:32 PM
In the history of boxing I've never heard of any boxers plan being 'Not to get KO'd'.
id guess its most boxers main objective when stepping into the ring:patsch
stakeout
03-18-2009, 04:35 PM
It may finally, finally shatter some of the hype around Khan and get his team to start planning a more realistic career path. It would be fascinating to see if Amir really has learned anything and can turn the tables this time.
Cobbler
03-18-2009, 04:35 PM
If your plan is to not get KO'd then you have to implement it for the whole 12 rounds or you lose, plain and simple.
It will be harder for him now you've blabbed the masterplan to the whole world...
BoxingFanNo1
03-18-2009, 04:36 PM
id guess its most boxers main objective when stepping into the ring:patsch
'Main objective.'
You made me spit out my coffee:twisted:
billyk
03-18-2009, 04:36 PM
In the history of boxing I've never heard of any boxers plan being 'Not to get KO'd'.
Are you suggesting most of them plan to get KO'd.
Let me know if you hear of a boxer with that plan so I can put a bet on their opponent.
kosaros
03-18-2009, 04:38 PM
Prescott a class above!!
the guy got lucky caught amir cold, then amirs inexperience showed when he got up too quick rather than stayin down on 1 knee till 8,
khan would win a rematch ! obv just my opinion!!
Khan was still getting caught against Barrera (although only two meaningful shots), and this was with the new 'super defence', so it would be no different, Khan would get caught again like I said in a previous post, but I believe he would last longer (if he didn't then he should just retire immediately).
BoxingFanNo1
03-18-2009, 04:38 PM
Are you suggesting most of them plan to get KO'd.
Let me know if you hear of a boxer with that plan so I can put a bet on their opponent.
You will be trained to avoid punches. You'll never be trained to avoid getting KO'd wise ass, that's the result of the punches.
You guys seriously don't see how fucking dumb that statement is???
billyk
03-18-2009, 05:00 PM
You will be trained to avoid punches. You'll never be trained to avoid getting KO'd wise ass, that's the result of the punches.
You guys seriously don't see how fucking dumb that statement is???
So you plan to avoid punches so you won't get KO'd but your not planning to avoid getting KO'd.
Do you want to buy a timeshare in Aberdeen, it's 35 degrees centigrade up there all year round?
You're obviously thick enough to beleive that.
BoxingFanNo1
03-18-2009, 05:11 PM
So you plan to avoid punches so you won't get KO'd but your not planning to avoid getting KO'd.
Do you want to buy a timeshare in Aberdeen, it's 35 degrees centigrade up there all year round?
You're obviously thick enough to beleive that.
Trainer: 'Now remember all your training and our master gameplan - DO NOT GET KNOCKED OUT!! Sure we worked on you're punches and your movement, speed etc but the main thing we did in training was 'How not to get knocked out!! All that Anti-knock out training we've done should come through now!!'
Now do you realise how thick you are being?
You've obviously never stepped foot in a ring.
You train to avoid punches for 20 reasons. Being knocked out is just one of those reasons. To call it 'The main objective' is ridiculous.
No-one has ever taken up boxing to learn how not to get knocked out. No top proffesional has ever stepped into the ring with the masterplan 'The most important thing here is to not get knocked out' that is a ridiculous statement and very simplistic.
billyk
03-18-2009, 05:24 PM
Trainer: 'Now remember all your training and our master gameplan - DO NOT GET KNOCKED OUT!! Sure we worked on you're punches and your movement, speed etc but the main thing we did in training was 'How not to get knocked out!! All that Anti-knock out training we've done should come through now!!'
Now do you realise how thick you are being?
You've obviously never stepped foot in a ring.
You train to avoid punches for 20 reasons. Being knocked out is just one of those reasons. To call it 'The main objective' is ridiculous.
No-one has ever taken up boxing to learn how not to get knocked out. No top proffesional has ever stepped into the ring with the masterplan 'The most important thing here is to not get knocked out' that is a ridiculous statement and very simplistic.
No there are a million diferent fucking strategies, tactics and different things you can do in training, but going back to your original point. If you get knocked out in any fucking round, 12th after dominating the first 11 or whatever then you're gameplan has not fucking worked.
Any gameplan includes the fucking obvious clause of DON'T GET KNOCKED OUT, without wishing to sound like a lawyer, either stated or implied.
WTF, if your gameplan is to stay outside and set a fast pace and hit and hold on the inside or whatever and you get knocked out then it didn't fucking work, if it's a totally different gameplan and you get knocked out, your gameplan didn't fucking work.
The masterplan also includes things like 'don't get disqualified' implicitly. You can't lose a fight because you kicked your opponent in the balls and then in the face when he's on the ground and expect your trainer to say 'yip, that's my boy, I told him to be aggressive'.
It's more like you've spent too much time in the ring and ended up brain damaged, if you think it's OK to get knocked out just because you're trainer doesn't explicitly tell you not to.
FFS
BoxingFanNo1
03-18-2009, 05:41 PM
Read the first couple of lines and figured 'I'll just type a post about how I don't debate with teenagers who get over-emotional and start bitching and typing things in capital letters with 'fuck' every 3rd word after 3 posts.'
So I did.
Have a nice day:hi:
abzmanc
03-18-2009, 05:42 PM
The stark reality is...Khan has absolutely nothing to gain by fighting Prescott again, its a highly risky fight based upon his world title aspirations. So don't see it ever happening.
billyk
03-18-2009, 05:45 PM
You will be trained to avoid punches. You'll never be trained to avoid getting KO'd wise ass, that's the result of the punches.
You guys seriously don't see how fucking dumb that statement is???
Read the first couple of lines and figured 'I'll just type a post about how I don't debate with teenagers who get over-emotional and start bitching and typing things in capital letters with 'fuck' every 3rd word after 3 posts.'
So I did.
Have a nice day:hi:
When in Rome......:hi:
billyk
03-18-2009, 05:47 PM
Trainer: 'Now remember all your training and our master gameplan - DO NOT GET KNOCKED OUT!! Sure we worked on you're punches and your movement, speed etc but the main thing we did in training was 'How not to get knocked out!! All that Anti-knock out training we've done should come through now!!'
Read the first couple of lines and figured 'I'll just type a post about how I don't debate with teenagers who get over-emotional and start bitching and typing things in capital letters with 'fuck' every 3rd word after 3 posts.'
So I did.
Have a nice day:hi:
Sorry I forgot that one.
So did you apparently, or forgot the whole thing about glass houses and throwing stones.:patsch
BoxingFanNo1
03-18-2009, 05:50 PM
Sorry I forgot that one.
So did you apparently, or forgot the whole thing about glass houses and throwing stones.:patsch
Notice how the 'when in Rome' statement actually started with me replying to you in the manner you attacked me.... Not to good on spotting irony are we son? Never mind, pat on the head and a silver star for trying.
He beat MAB who was ranked no1 by the WBO, what has Prescott been upto lately?
The same organisation that moved up a dead man in it's rankings and accepted Bobby Gunn as a world title challenger?
billyk
03-18-2009, 06:07 PM
If your plan is to not get KO'd then you have to implement it for the whole 12 rounds or you lose, plain and simple.
If Khan dominated an opponent for 11 rounds and still lost, I think that would probably damage him psychologically more than what happenned first time round with Prescott. Michael Nunn was never the same ater getting KO'd by James Toney late on when he was miles ahead on points.
I think he would get more bulshit if that happenned, and most of it would be justified.
Are you suggesting most of them plan to get KO'd.
Let me know if you hear of a boxer with that plan so I can put a bet on their opponent.
So you plan to avoid punches so you won't get KO'd but your not planning to avoid getting KO'd.
Do you want to buy a timeshare in Aberdeen, it's 35 degrees centigrade up there all year round?
You're obviously thick enough to beleive that.
Erm, so in which of those did I start saying fuck or using caps lock. I can't be too good at spotting that either.
Anyway, if you're wee huff is over, going to reply to the post about not getting KO'd being implicit in any plan, the same as nog gettin dq'd .
You know the one that you tried acting self-ritcheous after reading but I pointed out that you were just being a hyppocrite.
tony mush
03-18-2009, 06:36 PM
What would your reaction be? To what extent/in which way would it alter your current view of Khan and Prescott?:think
die happy
Decebal
03-18-2009, 06:39 PM
In my opinion, Khan's career would take the kind of his it could never really fully recover from...if he got KTFO by Prescott, even if it happened in the 12th round, with Khan 11-0 on the cards. I'm not sure Khan himself could fully get over it either...resilient and "delusional" as he might be...:think
achillesthegreat
03-18-2009, 06:50 PM
The Prescott loss is still an unknown quantity until Prescott does more. Prescott might get outboxed and not ko everyone but then he might be the 135 Tua. If that is the case the like Moorer, Khan can still forge a great career despite being starched and being a little chinny.
One day we'll talk in hindsight about this topic.
The stark reality is...Khan has absolutely nothing to gain by fighting Prescott again, its a highly risky fight based upon his world title aspirations. So don't see it ever happening.
:huh
Khan has his credibility and respect to gain.
kerrminator
03-18-2009, 07:25 PM
The Prescott loss is still an unknown quantity until Prescott does more. Prescott might get outboxed and not ko everyone but then he might be the 135 Tua. If that is the case the like Moorer, Khan can still forge a great career despite being starched and being a little chinny.
One day we'll talk in hindsight about this topic.
I think the point is that he was actually a genuine 135 opponent and therein lies the problem. Khan cant handle guys his own size therefore as soon as a light punching smaller man gets a title ****** will get him a title shot (or he will fight for a vacant belt against someone hand picked by ******)
Decebal
03-18-2009, 07:46 PM
The Prescott loss is still an unknown quantity until Prescott does more. Prescott might get outboxed and not ko everyone but then he might be the 135 Tua. If that is the case the like Moorer, Khan can still forge a great career despite being starched and being a little chinny.
One day we'll talk in hindsight about this topic.
He doesn't need to KO everyone. If he KOs Khan, whatever happens to his career subsequently, even if it fails miserably, that will be a very hard blow for Khan's career...very hard...
This is why I feel it doesn't much matter how good Prescott really is...because the question here is: can Khan do what it takes to avoid a puncher for as long as it takes to win the fight?
TommyV
03-18-2009, 08:32 PM
Wouldn't change my perspective of Prescott, I still think he's a woeful fighter.
It would merely confirm that Khan hasn't progressed at all, and is unlikely to progress to world champion level.
neil hibbert
03-19-2009, 11:41 AM
it is a crime if khan gets a world title shot b4 prescott, but i do thnk he would ko khan agin and id laugh as much as i did the 1st time it happened
Decebal
03-19-2009, 11:51 AM
Wouldn't change my perspective of Prescott, I still think he's a woeful fighter.
It would merely confirm that Khan hasn't progressed at all, and is unlikely to progress to world champion level.
I think people exaggerate how bad Prescott is...lets not forget he's inexperienced, doesn't have a world class back-up team by any means, and that he probably gets up for the big fights...
But, yeah, I agree...it would tell us more about Khan than Prescott...for sure.:good
mattress
03-20-2009, 08:14 AM
If they fought again in the next twelve months, I'd expect Prescott to do him within two rounds.
D-MAC
03-20-2009, 08:46 AM
The stark reality is...Khan has absolutely nothing to gain by fighting Prescott again, its a highly risky fight based upon his world title aspirations. So don't see it ever happening.
:huh
REDEMPTION!!!!!!!!
REVENGE!!!!!!!!!
tonysaprano
03-20-2009, 11:01 AM
:huh
REDEMPTION!!!!!!!!
REVENGE!!!!!!!!!
Well done, the best reply you could have said:good All this "what would Khan gain by fighting him again" patter, is just stupid, if he doesnt get back into the ring with the guy again then he is just a paper fighter, kid on. At the end of the day he beat Barrera by a cut that should have been called off in the first, by NC. Khan has plenty of speed but zero power, he is just an arm puncher. Hopefully he meets up with Marquez, and then it's good night Khan. Hate the cunt
p.Townend
03-20-2009, 11:07 AM
If it happend again Khan would be finished.Sacking Freddie Roach and saying he needed a new start would not cut it a second time.
Decebal
03-20-2009, 11:10 AM
Yeah...it's a bad risk/reward fight for Khan...he can't really pretend Prescott was just a one off on his spotless record if he gets KTFO again against him...and if he beats Prescott, people will just say that Prescott was shit anyway, and STILL label Khan a chinless wonder...
...that's why I'm so impressed with the boy wanting it...(not that I don't think it will make quite a tidy sum, however)...;)
DarkDestroyer83
03-20-2009, 11:13 AM
If it happend again Khan would be finished.Sacking Freddie Roach and saying he needed a new start would not cut it a second time.
Thats how I feel, if Roach can't do anything with Khan then I doubt anyone can.
I seriously doubt ****** would put Khan in with Prescott again, I always felt it was a daft move anyway, putting your top prospect in with an unknown guy with a 19-0 record with 17 stoppages.
richard_mcnair
03-21-2009, 07:47 AM
he hands in his application form at the bolton macdonalds the following morning?
punchdrunkgench
03-21-2009, 05:56 PM
khan beats a one eyed barrera and people jump up and down saying hes this and that, fact prescott kod him gomez and limond dropped him he wont be risked against prescott(who would destroy him) ****** will get him a title shot as he will use his influence to get it for him just like he has used it to get khans ranking
ps the way he ducked murrary was a disgrace
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