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rendog67
08-22-2007, 01:37 PM
matchup out there right now?

Everyone loves a pickem fight and after reading the Floyd and Williams post i think a lot of people might think its that matchup, a few weeks ago i would have chosen Pavlik Miranda but now i would say Calzaghe Hopkins i could not pick a winner in that one.
acb
08-22-2007, 01:40 PM
Pac vs Guzman.

Taylor vs Pavlick.

Toney vs a drug test.
China_hand_Joe
08-22-2007, 01:40 PM
now i would say Calzaghe Hopkins i could not pick a winner in that one.I can't see 42 year old Hopkins being able to compete considering Calzaghes work rate, no matter how crafty Hopkins may be.
rendog67
08-22-2007, 01:44 PM
Calzaghe is getting old too and i would not bet against hopkins and that is also coming from a big calzaghe fan who (probably like yourself) normally goes and watches all his fights live.
Oscar de la Roa
08-22-2007, 01:45 PM
Barrera- Pac
Pimp C
08-22-2007, 01:51 PM
Mosley-Cotto
Amsterdam
08-22-2007, 02:01 PM
Calzaghe is getting old too and i would not bet against hopkins and that is also coming from a big calzaghe fan who (probably like yourself) normally goes and watches all his fights live.

Still, case in point, unless Calzaghe starts to decline, he's a stylistic nightmare for the 42 year hold Hopkins. Even if he declines significantly, I still feel he wins wide because of the style.
rendog67
08-22-2007, 02:03 PM
amsterdam do you think calzaghe is a stylistic nightmare for a prime hopkins?
rendog67
08-22-2007, 02:10 PM
He thinks Calzaghe is a stylistic nightmare for a prime Ray Robinson

oh right
pijo
08-22-2007, 02:14 PM
Pac vs Guzman.

Taylor vs Pavlick.

Toney vs a drug test.


Ha ha, hes losing everytime-the gimp
justaboxingfan
08-22-2007, 02:15 PM
Definately Mosley-Cotto.
rendog67
08-22-2007, 02:17 PM
toney Vs A Drug Test Brilliant!!!!
MacManJr.
08-22-2007, 02:25 PM
Vargas/Mayorga
Astola
08-22-2007, 02:25 PM
Calzaghe-Kessler is pretty close to 50/50 in my book.
Mosley-Cotto is the same.
Amsterdam
08-22-2007, 02:26 PM
amsterdam do you think calzaghe is a stylistic nightmare for a prime hopkins?

No. Because a prime Hopkins did not have to fight at a conservative pace to stay in the fight, he could also fire a fantastic overhand right(Calzaghe's kryptonite) at will.

Prime Calzaghe-Hopkins is a good fight, lots of variables come into play.
rendog67
08-22-2007, 02:28 PM
No. Because a prime Hopkins did not have to fight at a conservative pace to stay in the fight, he could also fire a fantastic overhand right(Calzaghe's kryptonite) at will.

Prime Calzaghe-Hopkins is a good fight, lots of variables come into play.

who wins? is that a 50/50?
Amsterdam
08-22-2007, 02:29 PM
He thinks Calzaghe is a stylistic nightmare for a prime Ray Robinson

I don't rate old timers head to head. But even if you did, you'd have to take the styles into comparison here and you'd see that Ray's style would be troubled by Calzaghe's, unless you overrate the older era's on purpose.

Not to even mention, Ray was at his best at 147, he did very well at 160, 168 is yet another jump and you're talking about one of the best ever at that weight. It's the same how I'd pick Hearns over Robinson stylistically at 154, how I'd take Monzon over him at 160, how I'd take Roy over him at any weight... this is even doing an era/era consideration.
Amsterdam
08-22-2007, 02:30 PM
who wins? is that a 50/50?

Yes, that's 50/50. Pick one.
Astola
08-22-2007, 02:54 PM
I don't rate old timers head to head. But even if you did, you'd have to take the styles into comparison here and you'd see that Ray's style would be troubled by Calzaghe's, unless you overrate the older era's on purpose.

Not to even mention, Ray was at his best at 147, he did very well at 160, 168 is yet another jump and you're talking about one of the best ever at that weight. It's the same how I'd pick Hearns over Robinson stylistically at 154, how I'd take Monzon over him at 160, how I'd take Roy over him at any weight... this is even doing an era/era consideration.


I have too agree on this and also some of the assessment.

But SRR is still the most talented and gifted fighter of all time, hence why he would beat JC very clearly in a p4p match up.

Picking Roy over SRR is dary. In a p4p fight Roy would get KO'ed.
BITCH ASS
08-22-2007, 02:58 PM
Maybe Klitschko vs Peter II depending on how Peter fares against what's Maskaev.

And IF he has to fight and manages to get past Vitali.
huki
08-22-2007, 05:52 PM
Cotto-Mosley is the only big fight coming up that I think is truly close to 50/50..
Pavlik-Taylor comes next and Calzaghe-Kessler / Floyd-Hatton aren't close at all.. at least 80/20. Next year, the third Marquez-Vazquez match should have very close to even odds also.
pipe wrenched
08-22-2007, 05:57 PM
Pavlik/ Taylor for me. I will be wishing with all the good mojo i can muster for Pavlik to blast JT, I just wouldn't bet my house on it. 50/50 for sure.
China_hand_Joe
08-22-2007, 06:43 PM
He thinks Calzaghe is a stylistic nightmare for a prime Ray RobinsonCalzaghe is a big 168 pounder, I'm not sure how Robinson could defend himself in such a physical mismatch against a very brilliantly skilled fighter.
psychopath
08-22-2007, 07:20 PM
I would say Cotto/Mosley right now.

Yeah that's right and the Taylor/ Pavlik fight too.

:yep :good
brooklyn1550
08-22-2007, 07:23 PM
Miguel Cotto vs. Shane Mosley