Mosley vs Cotto

[TroubleLurks]

Originally my take on the upcoming fight was this...Mosley will start off strong sweeping the first 5 or 6 rds. Then Cotto would come on strong after that to make it a close fight to the finish. Mosley would weather the storm and win a close UD.


After watching more video on Cotto...Mosley is going to whip this dudes ass possibly stopping him in the process. Yes, Cotto applies constant pressure. Yes, Cotto has good power and works the body well. IMHO though, Cotto has a very ABC style that Mosley will exploit in a big way. His chin is exposed too much and too often. Mosley will test that chin several times throughout the fight. Cotto has been on rubber legs in the past and when was the last time you saw Shane have a fighter on queer street and not finish him off?
Just wanted to go on the record and change my pick to Mosley by KO.:deal flame away...

[Caper]

De ja vu

[King Dan]

Originally my take on the upcoming fight was this...Mosley will start off strong sweeping the first 5 or 6 rds. Then Cotto would come on strong after that to make it a close fight to the finish. Mosley would weather the storm and win a close UD.


After watching more video on Cotto...Mosley is going to whip this dudes ass possibly stopping him in the process. Yes, Cotto applies constant pressure. Yes, Cotto has good power and works the body well. IMHO though, Cotto has a very ABC style that Mosley will exploit in a big way. His chin is exposed too much and too often. Mosley will test that chin several times throughout the fight. Cotto has been on rubber legs in the past and when was the last time you saw Shane have a fighter on queer street and not finish him off?
Just wanted to go on the record and change my pick to Mosley by KO.:deal flame away...

Dude, I am a HUGE Cotto and Mosley fan.
They are 2 of my favorite 4 fighters.
I really thought this fight was going ot be 50/50 but more and more I feel Shane is gonna stop Cotto for the reasons you wrote.

I am going to this fight and I can't wait!

[BobDigi5060]

The one thing most people forget is that Cotto had been rocked and stunned by Corley, Abdulaev, Torres and Judah. If there is a fighter who could finish him off and hurt him again it would be Sugar Shane.

[Caper]

De ja vu
De ja vu
De ja vu

[TroubleLurks]

Dude, I am a HUGE Cotto and Mosley fan.
They are 2 of my favorite 4 fighters.
I really thought this fight was going ot be 50/50 but more and more I feel Shane is gonna stop Cotto for the reasons you wrote.

I am going to this fight and I can't wait!You lucky bastard! Take some pics and post them on here when you get back if you can.:good

[Caper]

That's it Trouble!!!!

You've convinced me, after reading that first post I can't see anyway Cotto can win. I'm betting my dog fighting ring on Mosely.

[MacManJr.]

Originally my take on the upcoming fight was this...Mosley will start off strong sweeping the first 5 or 6 rds. Then Cotto would come on strong after that to make it a close fight to the finish. Mosley would weather the storm and win a close UD.


After watching more video on Cotto...Mosley is going to whip this dudes ass possibly stopping him in the process. Yes, Cotto applies constant pressure. Yes, Cotto has good power and works the body well. IMHO though, Cotto has a very ABC style that Mosley will exploit in a big way. His chin is exposed too much and too often. Mosley will test that chin several times throughout the fight. Cotto has been on rubber legs in the past and when was the last time you saw Shane have a fighter on queer street and not finish him off?
Just wanted to go on the record and change my pick to Mosley by KO.:deal flame away...That is exactly what I said before the ink was even dry on the contract!

[Caper]

That is exactly what I said before the ink was even dry on the contract!

Mosely!
Mosely!
Mosely!
Mosely!
Mosely!

:yep

[King Dan]

You lucky bastard! Take some pics and post them on here when you get back if you can.:good

Where do you live TL?

[King Dan]

Mosely!
Mosely!
Mosely!
Mosely!
Mosely!

:yep

It's Mosley, not Mosely.

[Caper]

Oops I spelled it wrong

Mosley!!!
Mosley!!!!
Mosley!!!!!!

[Caper]

It's Mosley, not Mosely.

Hey man that's part of my taunt, you ruined my self-induced climax.

[lefthook31]

Cotto is the younger hungrier fighter. This is the coming out party for Cotto to become an elite fighter. Mosley is no pushover and wont quit in the later rounds like Jdah, but I think Cotto is going to do it. This is going to be a classic. I see it as a grueling war with both hitting the deck, and Cotto stopping Shane late in the fight.

[King Dan]

Cotto is the younger hungrier fighter. This is the coming out party for Cotto to become an elite fighter. Mosley is no pushover and wont quit in the later rounds like Jdah, but I think Cotto is going to do it. This is going to be a classic. I see it as a grueling war with both hitting the deck, and Cotto stopping Shane late in the fight.

Viper had Shane out on his feet and couldn't finish him.

I doubt Cotto will have Mosley out on his feet to begin with.

But we shall see.

I do expect a grueling war though, for as long as it lasts, thats for sure.

[TroubleLurks]

Where do you live TL?Vero Beach Fl. Home to Buddy McGirt and his gym.(always see his fighters at the mall etc. when in training) Also home to HW Mike Marrone.:tired

[Caper]

Cotto is the younger hungrier fighter. This is the coming out party for Cotto to become an elite fighter. Mosley is no pushover and wont quit in the later rounds like Jdah, but I think Cotto is going to do it. This is going to be a classic. I see it as a grueling war with both hitting the deck, and Cotto stopping Shane late in the fight.

Hey man who told you to come in hurr and start talking all logical and shit.....damn I hate smart asses.

[Caper]

Vero Beach Fl. Home to Buddy McGirt and his gym.(always see his fighters at the mall etc. when in training) Also home to HW Mike Marrone.:tired

:lol:

Pride and joy of Vero Beach.....

[TroubleLurks]

That's it Trouble!!!!

You've convinced me, after reading that first post I can't see anyway Cotto can win. I'm betting my dog fighting ring on Mosely.Smart man.:yep

[Caper]

Smart man.:yep

No just to much good weed :rasta

[TroubleLurks]

:lol:

Pride and joy of Vero Beach.....We still got Stevie Johnston, and Paulie magnalagaillieyalie, Milk dud Tarver and several others to be proud of.:smoke

[King Dan]

No just to much good weed :rasta

Let's hear it for the stinky green!! :happy


:smoke

[Caper]

We still got Stevie Johnston, and Paulie magnalagaillieyalie, Milk dud Tarver and several others to be proud of.:smoke

I thought Paulie was from Brooklyn?

Though I never saw Paulie in Brooklyn then again I never hung out in Bensonhurst or Bayridge where most of the Italians dwell in Brooklyn.

[BigReg]

Mosely is an old man with suspect defense and suspect power. Cotto should beat him down.

[King Dan]

Mosely is an old man with suspect defense and suspect power. Cotto should beat him down.

Collazo would beg to differ.

[TroubleLurks]

I thought Paulie was from Brooklyn?

Though I never saw Paulie in Brooklyn then again I never hung out in Bensonhurst or Bayridge where most of the Italians dwell in Brooklyn.He trains here with Buddy.

[Caper]

Let's hear it for the stinky green!! :happy


:smoke

Yeah, me and Cash_718 will probably be selling some medication in front of the Garden on fight night (Its the only way I can seriously afford a good ticket since I have a rug rat joining my team soon).....I think Cash_718 went to school for street pharmacy so he'll be their getting paid as a consultant.

[Caper]

Collazo would beg to differ.

Dan...

I actually spoke to Collazo at Club Plum here in the city he was pretty pissed he didn't press the fight because he was a bit reluctant and respected the Sugar man way to much. Pluse his hand was wrapped up at the time (It was a couple weeks after the fight) he also blamed his disfigured thumb. I don't like excuses though, Collazo lost fair and square and the Sugar man showed he still got it. I have a good feeling Cotto will make the fight a bit harder than Collazo did :yep

But poor Cotto is going to be dispatched sometime before mid fight(according to trouble that is)

[Caper]

He trains here with Buddy.

Catching a tan and sleeping with Mob bosses daughters dosent make you from a place.....

does it???:?

[King Dan]

Dan...

I actually spoke to Collazo at Club Plum here in the city he was pretty pissed he didn't press the fight because he was a bit reluctant and respected the Sugar man way to much. Pluse his hand was wrapped up at the time (It was a couple weeks after the fight) he also blamed his disfigured thumb. I don't like excuses though, Collazo lost fair and square and the Sugar man showed he still got it. I have a good feeling Cotto will make the fight a bit harder than Collazo did :yep

But poor Cotto is going to be dispatched sometime before mid fight(according to trouble that is)

Thanks for the insight.

This is still a 50/50 type fight.

Don't get me wrong.

[BigReg]

Dan...

I actually spoke to Collazo at Club Plum here in the city he was pretty pissed he didn't press the fight because he was a bit reluctant and respected the Sugar man way to much. Pluse his hand was wrapped up at the time (It was a couple weeks after the fight) he also blamed his disfigured thumb. I don't like excuses though, Collazo lost fair and square and the Sugar man showed he still got it. I have a good feeling Cotto will make the fight a bit harder than Collazo did :yep

But poor Cotto is going to be dispatched sometime before mid fight(according to trouble that is)

I'm glad you posted this. It spared me the trouble of pointing out that Mosely won a decsion against an injured, B level fighter. Everyone who saw that fight saw that Collazo wasn't throwing punches. Cotto is on alot of people's p4p top 10 list. There is no way he should lose to a 36 year old, past prime fighter

[King Dan]

I'm glad you posted this. It spared me the trouble of pointing out that Mosely won a decsion against an injured, B level fighter. Everyone who saw that fight saw that Collazo wasn't throwing punches. Cotto is on alot of people's p4p top 10 list. There is no way he should lose to a 36 year old, past prime fighter

Cotto and Mosley are top 10-15.

[TroubleLurks]

Catching a tan and sleeping with Mob bosses daughters dosent make you from a place.....

does it???:?:lol: They train here. Period. No they were not all born here which I guess = from here. My deepest apologies.

[the_what]

Collazo would beg to differ.

Collazo is no Cotto. Cotto will break Mosley down physically and mentally.

Thing ive noticed about Mosley (keep in mind im a big Mosley fan)

Mosley doesnt know how to change his strategy if things arent going his way. It happened in both Forrest and Wright fights. If he gets discouraged, his corner acts foolish and Mosley doesnt adapt. The only time Mosley showed this trait was against DLH 7 years ago.

If things dont go his way against Cotto expect him to keep catching a beat down until Papa Jack throws in the white towel.

[TroubleLurks]

I'm glad you posted this. It spared me the trouble of pointing out that Mosely won a decsion against an injured, B level fighter. Everyone who saw that fight saw that Collazo wasn't throwing punches. Cotto is on alot of people's p4p top 10 list. There is no way he should lose to a 36 year old, past prime fighterB level fighter that many thought won the fight against Hatton. Injured hand or not, Collazo was outclassed that night in every department. But I guess that's what Mosley should do to a B level fighter, Right?

[Caper]

Thanks for the insight.

This is still a 50/50 type fight.

Don't get me wrong.

I agree 50/50

Collazo is always in the club man, I don't go out much anymore but I've spoken to this lush at least 3 times in the past year of so, he's a very cool dude though, unlike Zab who get's real irritating at times when he's squirting his testosterone all over the club. Paulie Malanaggi was also extremely friendly and spoke boxing for at least 20 minutes with me at club Stereo in Manhattan. Honorable mention: Curtis Stevens, spoke for a bit outside Manhattan Center/Hamerstein Ballroom.

[Scorpion]

The one thing most people forget is that Cotto had been rocked and stunned by Corley, Abdulaev, Torres and Judah. If there is a fighter who could finish him off and hurt him again it would be Sugar Shane.


Dude dont underestimate a real fighter so quickly
but i have it 60/40 mosley

[El Bombasto]

Originally my take on the upcoming fight was this...Mosley will start off strong sweeping the first 5 or 6 rds. Then Cotto would come on strong after that to make it a close fight to the finish. Mosley would weather the storm and win a close UD.


After watching more video on Cotto...Mosley is going to whip this dudes ass possibly stopping him in the process. Yes, Cotto applies constant pressure. Yes, Cotto has good power and works the body well. IMHO though, Cotto has a very ABC style that Mosley will exploit in a big way. His chin is exposed too much and too often. Mosley will test that chin several times throughout the fight. Cotto has been on rubber legs in the past and when was the last time you saw Shane have a fighter on queer street and not finish him off?
Just wanted to go on the record and change my pick to Mosley by KO.:deal flame away...

I'm a fan of both fighters, but even a faded Mosely is a terrible styles match-up for Cotto.

SSM TKO6

[the_what]

The one thing most people forget is that Cotto had been rocked and stunned by Corley, Abdulaev, Torres and Judah. If there is a fighter who could finish him off and hurt him again it would be Sugar Shane.

People forget? Thats the argument most fans use as to why Cotto is going to lose his next fight for the past 3 years now. But last time I checked Cotto is still undefeated. :good

[Caper]

I'm glad you posted this. It spared me the trouble of pointing out that Mosely won a decsion against an injured, B level fighter. Everyone who saw that fight saw that Collazo wasn't throwing punches. Cotto is on alot of people's p4p top 10 list. There is no way he should lose to a 36 year old, past prime fighter

Well Sugarman still is a live dog no matter how you put it, I'm a huge Cotto fan but I'll be nervous come fight night, similar to a school girl in her first visit to the OBGYN.

[BigReg]

B level fighter that many thought won the fight against Hatton. Injured hand or not, Collazo was outclassed that night in every department. But I guess that's what Mosley should do to a B level fighter, Right?

To an injured B level fighter, yes. Unless you wanna argue that Collazo wasn't injured or that Collazo is an A level fighter. I'm not going to sit here and call Mosely a bum. This is certainly not the case. But he's old, and past his prime. If Cotto is the elite fighter that people make him out to be, then he should be able to beat an old, past his prime fighter, even one on Mosely's level.

[BigReg]

Well Sugarman still is a live dog no matter how you put it, I'm a huge Cotto fan but I'll be nervous come fight night, similar to a school girl in her first visit to the OBGYN.

No need to be nervous. Although Cotto has been "protected" by his handlers, I still think he's a tremendous fighter. This will be Mosely's last fight.

[El Presidente]

Cotto body work will be too much for Mosley

[Caper]

No need to be nervous. Although Cotto has been "protected" by his handlers, I still think he's a tremendous fighter. This will be Mosely's last fight.

Ok but I'll wear my diapers under my gap jeans just in case (please do not try to visualize)

[TroubleLurks]

To an injured B level fighter, yes. Unless you wanna argue that Collazo wasn't injured or that Collazo is an A level fighter. I'm not going to sit here and call Mosely a bum. This is certainly not the case. But he's old, and past his prime. If Cotto is the elite fighter that people make him out to be, then he should be able to beat an old, past his prime fighter, even one on Mosely's level.Fair enough and I'm not saying Collazo didn't hurt his hand. I just don't think it would have made any difference. The one and only advantage I see Cotto having over Shane is youth. That will not be enough to beat the old vet.

[Caper]

Fair enough and I'm not saying Collazo didn't hurt his hand. I just don't think it would have made any difference. The one and only advantage I see Cotto having over Shane is youth. That will not be enough to beat the old vet.

Like many Puerto Ricans Cotto also carries a switch blade, which he will not hesitate to use if need be en route to his TKO victory in the 10th round.

[TroubleLurks]

Like many Puerto Ricans Cotto also carries a switch blade, which he will not hesitate to use if need be en route to his TKO victory in the 10th round.:lol: Not sure about the switch blade but I do know he carries a few intentional low blows he won't hesitate to use.

[Caper]

Lmao!!! Nah papa Cotto is from Caguas they carry AKs there...Ricans in NYC carried switch blades back in the late 60s and early 70s...

But back to the subject....Cotto wins by late KO!!!! Im thinking anytime after the 8 rd. Mosley will not be able to deal with the style of fighting Cotto brings to the table...

Co-sign

Cotto tko in the 10th :yep :smoke

[PR Boxing Lore]

Collazo is no Cotto. Cotto will break Mosley down physically and mentally.

Thing ive noticed about Mosley (keep in mind im a big Mosley fan)

Mosley doesnt know how to change his strategy if things arent going his way. It happened in both Forrest and Wright fights. If he gets discouraged, his corner acts foolish and Mosley doesnt adapt. The only time Mosley showed this trait was against DLH 7 years ago.

If things dont go his way against Cotto expect him to keep catching a beat down until Papa Jack throws in the white towel.
Exactly, this will be an easier fight for Cotto than most people think.

[PR Boxing Lore]

No need to be nervous. Although Cotto has been "protected" by his handlers, I still think he's a tremendous fighter. This will be Mosely's last fight.I think so too.

[darkdestroyer]

Exactly, this will be an easier fight for Cotto than most people think.

Mosley by brutal KO in the sixth, then Cotto will pull a Tito, cry on the podium and retire while huggin Evangelista.

:rofl

Que pasa Jayyyyyyyyy

[Relentless]

Dude, I am a HUGE Cotto and Mosley fan.
They are 2 of my favorite 4 fighters.
I really thought this fight was going ot be 50/50 but more and more I feel Shane is gonna stop Cotto for the reasons you wrote.

I am going to this fight and I can't wait!

i am also going, i cant miss 2 of my favourite fighters going at it.

[JoeR]

I think Cotto will beat Mosley by a close decision, maybe even a SD. i dont think he will knockout Mosley.

[Snakefist]

Collazo is no Cotto. Cotto will break Mosley down physically and mentally.

Thing ive noticed about Mosley (keep in mind im a big Mosley fan)

Mosley doesnt know how to change his strategy if things arent going his way. It happened in both Forrest and Wright fights. If he gets discouraged, his corner acts foolish and Mosley doesnt adapt. The only time Mosley showed this trait was against DLH 7 years ago.

If things dont go his way against Cotto expect him to keep catching a beat down until Papa Jack throws in the white towel.

I highly disagree. Winky AND Forrest presents specific stylistic problems that are all wrong for Shane. Shane really has trouble with a fighter who who is taller then him with a good and nice right hand. Cotto's style is NOTHING like them, period. Shane was confused against Winky's defense, great Jab, and right hands... and Forrest with his style just had his number, his Jab was excellent and his right hand had excellent accuracy and is power (his best pnuch). Cotto is a pressure fighter and wares you down. He doesn't have awesome defense, doesn't have the power in his right hand like forrest had. Really Forrest has a underrated uppercut, he has a lot of pop on it, really it was the uppercut that had Shane almost out in their fight. That same uppercut had Ike hurt bad and he was holding on for much of that round.

Cotto's power is not excellent, it took him 11 rounds to KO Judah who doesn't have the best chin and he was hitting him cleanly the whole fight. Shane is much more durable then Judah, and Cotto's style is ripe for Shane. Only thing is Shane is 36, in his prime there would be no way Cotto could win. Shane was more of a punsher then a boxer. Time will tell, but I am saying this right now, you can't apply Forrest and Winky to this, it just doesn't add up style wise.

Look at his fight against Oscar, he adapted in the fight to pull out the victory. But that first fight Oscar fought him like a puncher and not a boxer. Cotto can't out box Shane, remember shane has trouble with people with quick Jabs and movement (defense in the case of Winky), he doesn't have to worry about these things with Cotto. Cotto is pretty much there to be hit the whole night, if you can take the incoming pressure, and I think Shane can.

If Shane rocks Cotto, Cotto is going to get KO'd, period.

[Relentless]

hey snake you do know winky is a southpaw right?

[brooklyn1550]

Miguel Cotto UD12 Shane Mosley

[Antwuan Maxx]

Fair enough and I'm not saying Collazo didn't hurt his hand. I just don't think it would have made any difference. The one and only advantage I see Cotto having over Shane is youth. That will not be enough to beat the old vet.

Why not? Collazo easily outboxed Shane in round two, and was even starting to clown him. Shane looked discouraged after that round. Collazo hurts his hand in the following round, and you still think the injury didn't make a difference? :huh

Cotto TKO Mosley

[dave82]

Why not? Collazo easily outboxed Shane in round two, and was even starting to clown him. Shane looked discouraged after that round. Collazo hurts his hand in the following round, and you still think the injury didn't make a difference? :huh

Cotto TKO Mosley

:patsch 1 of the most intelligent posts i have ever seen. Fucking waste of space

[TroubleLurks]

Why not? Collazo easily outboxed Shane in round two, and was even starting to clown him. Shane looked discouraged after that round. Collazo hurts his hand in the following round, and you still think the injury didn't make a difference? :huh

Cotto TKO MosleyJust my opinion. Collazo is a slick southpaw that would take anybody a few rounds to get used to. People act as if Collazo stopped fighting all together after he hurt his hand which isnt the case at all. Mosley figured out his timing and started to counter at will with those combinations. The fight may have been closer had Collazo not injured his hand but I still think he would have lost.

[Antwuan Maxx]

:patsch 1 of the most intelligent posts i have ever seen. Fucking waste of space

:lol: Everything I said (other than my fight prediction) is a fact, you fucking jackass. What you expected to accomplish with that reply, I don't know.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Just my opinion. Collazo is a slick southpaw that would take anybody a few rounds to get used to.

That's one misconception that people need to get out of their heads. Being a southpaw doesn't automatically make you slick. Collazo brawls just as much as he boxes. If he was so slick, Hatton and Rivera would have had trouble landing on him regularly, which they did not.

People act as if Collazo stopped fighting all together after he hurt his hand which isnt the case at all. Mosley figured out his timing and started to counter at will with those combinations. The fight may have been closer had Collazo not injured his hand but I still think he would have lost.

Awfully convenient how that happens at the time the injury allegedly occured. It ain't rocket science, homey.

[jecxbox]

Cotto will get to Mosley easily. And that is the problem..Some people expect Mosley to outbox Cotto and turn into Pernell Whitaker..Or Roy Jones or some shit...That ISN'T going to happen man...Mosley's jab ain't that great...Cotto has a stiff ass jab....I can definitely see Mosley out punching Cotto in some rounds and definitely winning them but as far as damage inflicted it will completely go to Cotto. So I think its going to be a very hard fight to score. Cotto is going to be on Mosley like flies on shit and Mosley better start ripping uppercuts because its the only thing that could save him.

[jecxbox]

Mosley was breathing a bit hard in the Collazo fight..And Collazo wasn't even making Mosley fight!! That shit was a sparing match for Mosley!!...He couldn't dent Estrada at all...Estrada was whipping punches all over Mosley in that entire fight! Estrada isn't even in the same galaxy as Cotto as far as offensive ability...Cotto is text book power punching guys...I just don't think Mosley can take it...If he wins I will definitely be surprised and I'd give him his well due props.

[TroubleLurks]

That's one misconception that people need to get out of their heads. Being a southpaw doesn't automatically make you slick. Collazo brawls just as much as he boxes. If he was so slick, Hatton and Rivera would have had trouble landing on him regularly, which they did not.



Awfully convenient how that happens at the time the injury allegedly occured. It ain't rocket science, homey.

Collazo is NOT a slick fighter and he would have won the fight "clowning" Mosley along the way had he not hurt his hand.:roll: If that is what you believe than by all means...enjoy.

[jecxbox]

Collazo vs Mosley was a sparing match.
Mosley was breathing a little hard in the ^ fight.
Mosley vs Cotto will be a war.
Mosley will be very tired in a war.
The rounds will be very hard to score.
This fight comes down to how long Mosley can perform at the sugar shane mosley we all have come to know.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Collazo is NOT a slick fighter and he would have won the fight "clowning" Mosley along the way had he not hurt his hand.:roll: If that is what you believe than by all means...enjoy.

Don't put words in my mouth. I said Collazo isn't a slick fighter, which he is not. And that he outboxed and clowned Mosley in round two, which he did. Does that mean I think he would have won the fight? Not necessarily. It could have went either way. But I know that Collazo would have won more than 2 of the 12 rounds, I'll tell you that much.

[lillarry]

I going with Cotto at this time. 5 or 6 years ago I maybe would have sided with Mosley, but feel the inside pressure of cotto would be too much for mosley too handle unless he can stick and move. The body shots of cotto will be the determening factor in this fight and I see cotto winning tko

[the_truth]

I highly disagree. Winky AND Forrest presents specific stylistic problems that are all wrong for Shane. Shane really has trouble with a fighter who who is taller then him with a good and nice right hand. Cotto's style is NOTHING like them, period. Shane was confused against Winky's defense, great Jab, and right hands... and Forrest with his style just had his number, his Jab was excellent and his right hand had excellent accuracy and is power (his best pnuch). Cotto is a pressure fighter and wares you down. He doesn't have awesome defense, doesn't have the power in his right hand like forrest had. Really Forrest has a underrated uppercut, he has a lot of pop on it, really it was the uppercut that had Shane almost out in their fight. That same uppercut had Ike hurt bad and he was holding on for much of that round.

Cotto's power is not excellent, it took him 11 rounds to KO Judah who doesn't have the best chin and he was hitting him cleanly the whole fight. Shane is much more durable then Judah, and Cotto's style is ripe for Shane. Only thing is Shane is 36, in his prime there would be no way Cotto could win. Shane was more of a punsher then a boxer. Time will tell, but I am saying this right now, you can't apply Forrest and Winky to this, it just doesn't add up style wise.

Look at his fight against Oscar, he adapted in the fight to pull out the victory. But that first fight Oscar fought him like a puncher and not a boxer. Cotto can't out box Shane, remember shane has trouble with people with quick Jabs and movement (defense in the case of Winky), he doesn't have to worry about these things with Cotto. Cotto is pretty much there to be hit the whole night, if you can take the incoming pressure, and I think Shane can.

If Shane rocks Cotto, Cotto is going to get KO'd, period.


im just curious what your answer will be... if cottos power is not excellent? how do u consider mayweathers power???

[OSO]

Originally my take on the upcoming fight was this...Mosley will start off strong sweeping the first 5 or 6 rds. Then Cotto would come on strong after that to make it a close fight to the finish. Mosley would weather the storm and win a close UD.


After watching more video on Cotto...Mosley is going to whip this dudes ass possibly stopping him in the process. Yes, Cotto applies constant pressure. Yes, Cotto has good power and works the body well. IMHO though, Cotto has a very ABC style that Mosley will exploit in a big way. His chin is exposed too much and too often. Mosley will test that chin several times throughout the fight. Cotto has been on rubber legs in the past and when was the last time you saw Shane have a fighter on queer street and not finish him off?
Just wanted to go on the record and change my pick to Mosley by KO.:deal flame away...

The Sugar is too sweet for Miguel. Shane by late round TKO.

[the_truth]

Originally my take on the upcoming fight was this...Mosley will start off strong sweeping the first 5 or 6 rds. Then Cotto would come on strong after that to make it a close fight to the finish. Mosley would weather the storm and win a close UD.


After watching more video on Cotto...Mosley is going to whip this dudes ass possibly stopping him in the process. Yes, Cotto applies constant pressure. Yes, Cotto has good power and works the body well. IMHO though, Cotto has a very ABC style that Mosley will exploit in a big way. His chin is exposed too much and too often. Mosley will test that chin several times throughout the fight. Cotto has been on rubber legs in the past and when was the last time you saw Shane have a fighter on queer street and not finish him off?
Just wanted to go on the record and change my pick to Mosley by KO.:deal flame away...

The Sugar is too sweet for Miguel. Shane by late round TKO.


why are people living in the past, cotto had problems at 140 where at times he was at his weakest inside the ring and he still came out winning in destroying all his opponents... a shot to the tempel sounds very different to me from a shot to the chin, also over 15 good shots from torres and a very questionable push down cotto finally goes down and comes back to hurt torres moments later, a weak chin would have told me cotto wouldnt even finish that round... many great shots and uppercuts from judah and cotto takes them very well, we talking about a new cotto at 147, lets not forget that...

[Coast]

I'm looking forward to this fight, because if you admire both fighters and are somewhat objective you know this is a very close matchup. Cotto has looked very good, but Shane has much more world class experience and has not had troubles with smaller pressure fighters (Mosley is 2 inches taller with a 7 inch reach advantage) only taller skilled boxers. That said, Shane will be 36 and I think Cotto's youth will make this a very good fight.

I do see it going the distance. Mosley has never been stopped, the on time he was truly in trouble, he showed incredible resilience against Forrest. On the flip side, the only fighter he's stopped in his last 10 fights is an over the hill Vargas. Cotto has shown he can get of the canvas an come back to win several times. This one might live up to the hype.

[Executioner]

Vargas-Mosley II was Mosley's last hurrah.

Cotto is going to tear him apart

[SOUTHERMOST]

True Cotto has been hurt and Mosley too I always remember him vs Winky the first fight when he wanted to quit, his father in the corner spent the whole night convincing him to keep fighting.

[carras]

shane is not the monster he was 5 or 6 years ago.
cotto by UD or late tko.

[KO Boxing]

Shane may not be the monster he was 5 years ago. But Cotto's not the monster people are making him out to be now. I, for one, was disappointed in his fight with Judah and feel that a fighter twice the caliber of Judah in Mosely will be able to exploit Cotto's weaknesses....

One's thing for sure, Cotto can't wobble and dance like he likes to do. Cause Mosely's a MAD finisher... :yep

[Relentless]

Shane may not be the monster he was 5 years ago. But Cotto's not the monster people are making him out to be now. I, for one, was disappointed in his fight with Judah and feel that a fighter twice the caliber of Judah in Mosely will be able to exploit Cotto's weaknesses....

One's thing for sure, Cotto can't wobble and dance like he likes to do. Cause Mosely's a MAD finisher... :yep


nobody is making cotto out to be anything, he is showing us,

in the judah fight people were saying judah is a better finisher than chop chop and torres and he has the power to ko cotto, in this fight people are saying shane is a better finisher than judah,

cotto always rises to the occasion.

[Dorfmeister]

I highly disagree. Winky AND Forrest presents specific stylistic problems that are all wrong for Shane. Shane really has trouble with a fighter who who is taller then him with a good and nice right hand. Cotto's style is NOTHING like them, period. Shane was confused against Winky's defense, great Jab, and right hands... and Forrest with his style just had his number, his Jab was excellent and his right hand had excellent accuracy and is power (his best pnuch). Cotto is a pressure fighter and wares you down. He doesn't have awesome defense, doesn't have the power in his right hand like forrest had. Really Forrest has a underrated uppercut, he has a lot of pop on it, really it was the uppercut that had Shane almost out in their fight. That same uppercut had Ike hurt bad and he was holding on for much of that round.

Cotto's power is not excellent, it took him 11 rounds to KO Judah who doesn't have the best chin and he was hitting him cleanly the whole fight. Shane is much more durable then Judah, and Cotto's style is ripe for Shane. Only thing is Shane is 36, in his prime there would be no way Cotto could win. Shane was more of a punsher then a boxer. Time will tell, but I am saying this right now, you can't apply Forrest and Winky to this, it just doesn't add up style wise.

Look at his fight against Oscar, he adapted in the fight to pull out the victory. But that first fight Oscar fought him like a puncher and not a boxer. Cotto can't out box Shane, remember shane has trouble with people with quick Jabs and movement (defense in the case of Winky), he doesn't have to worry about these things with Cotto. Cotto is pretty much there to be hit the whole night, if you can take the incoming pressure, and I think Shane can.

If Shane rocks Cotto, Cotto is going to get KO'd, period.

I second all of that but even though Shane is still a great athlete at 36 ( just a number I truly believe so), I really can't see him evading and dodging punches all the time and specially in close cause simply at that distance, he won't be able to notice Cotto setting up short, fast punches ( Quintana couldn't and said afterwards that Miguel is quite fast putting punches together) - so if Shane can't sense what Miguel is willing to let go on him, he won't be able to avoid it, has to take it! That is precisely the opposite problem to Winky's and Forrest's, he doesn't have to get in long armed, taller guys with fast one-twos but keep someone stockier and stronger ( than Winky or Vernon) off him ... Now, when they are at that punching range and Mosley protects his chin with the high right guard sensefully, can he take a blast downstairs ( look at the RING MAG cover pic, Cotto vs Judah Edition, to notice the leverage Cotto puts behind body shots)? That is the 24 thousand dollar question here... Plus, if Shane misses with a glancing overhand right at close quarters, he runs directly into Cotto's right hook to the body and there, he surely won't have time to react. There are equivocal questions and reason for doubt here - not definitely taking parts here.

[Caper]

I second all of that but even though Shane is still a great athlete at 36 ( just a number I truly believe so), I really can't see him evading and dodging punches all the time and specially in close cause simply at that distance, he won't be able to notice Cotto setting up short, fast punches ( Quintana couldn't and said afterwards that Miguel is quite fast putting punches together) - so if Shane can't sense what Miguel is willing to let go on him, he won't be able to avoid it, has to take it! That is precisely the opposite problem to Winky's and Forrest's, he doesn't have to get in long armed, taller guys with fast one-twos but keep someone stockier and stronger ( than Winky or Vernon) off him ... Now, when they are at that punching range and Mosley protects his chin with the high right guard sensefully, can he take a blast downstairs ( look at the RING MAG cover pic, Cotto vs Judah Edition, to notice the leverage Cotto puts behind body shots)? That is the 24 thousand dollar question here... Plus, if Shane misses with a glancing overhand right at close quarters, he runs directly into Cotto's right hook to the body and there, he surely won't have time to react. There are equivocal questions and reason for doubt here - not definitely taking parts here.

Interesting :think

I can picture Shane using his quickness to avoid plenty of inside fighting but this will take away plenty of mustard on his attack not preventing the pressure fighter to utilize another game plan. This will force Shane to fight more in the pocket which I think will be at a disadvantage to him. Shane has a tendency to become a very animated puncher thus taking away the element of surprise and one of his glaring advantages over Cotto which is speed. If Cotto can eat Shanes punches long enough he will most likely break Shane down, slowly but surely.

[Danny Ocean]

im starting to see a mosley stoppage

i think he will paw that jab out as a range finder to throw some vicious hooks while staying out of distance

i think a left hook shakes cotto early and sugar shane gets confidence from it and procedes to slowly dishearten cotto until around the 10th he stops him with a flurry of hooks

[Dorfmeister]

Interesting :think

I can picture Shane using his quickness to avoid plenty of inside fighting but this will take away plenty of mustard on his attack not preventing the pressure fighter to utilize another game plan. This will force Shane to fight more in the pocket which I think will be at a disadvantage to him. Shane has a tendency to become a very animated puncher thus taking away the element of surprise and one of his glaring advantages over Cotto which is speed. If Cotto can eat Shanes punches long enough he will most likely break Shane down, slowly but surely.

Planna Caper, Shane can go fast enough or far enough, that is not the issue, both know the score inside out and age is not the helluva difference to their figure - Miguel will swing himself into action and Shane must swing himself off or else it's a matter of whose legs buckle first - that is pure dynamic collision physics. I wouldn't leap to the conclusion that Shane gonna call it quits cause if he keeps Miguel's punch stats in single features ( like against Collazo), he'll have an easy, flat road to follow up and Miguel one steep incline and may run wrecklessly into a big counter, but having said that, Shane has a very hard task to start out on good foot! There is a whole lot to this and that's why it makes it so interesting... Not like a wild goose chase like other fights may turn out to be this fall!

[El Bombasto]

agreed, cotto will get stopped before he has a chance to wear-down mosley

[Caper]

Planna Caper, Shane can go fast enough or far enough, that is not the issue, both know the score inside out and age is not the helluva difference to their figure - Miguel will swing himself into action and Shane must swing himself off or else it's a matter of whose legs buckle first - that is pure dynamic collision physics. I wouldn't leap to the conclusion that Shane gonna call it quits cause if he keeps Miguel's punch stats in single features ( like against Collazo), he'll have an easy, flat road to follow up and Miguel one steep incline and may run wrecklessly into a big counter, but having said that, Shane has a very hard task to start out on good foot! There is a whole lot to this and that's why it makes it so interesting... Not like a wild goose chase like other fights may turn out to be this fall!

Yes a confident Shane is much more likely to succeed in a fight of this magnitude. If he starts off strong and stay's poised for the on slaught he has a great chance of winning and stopping the Cotto express. I don't see Cotto wasting too much time before getting the action into an initmate realm, so much for Collazo like inactivity.

[Caper]

agreed, cotto will get stopped before he has a chance to wear-down mosley

In contrast to that if Mosley allows Cotto to dictate the action he will be TKO in the championship rounds.

[Caper]

im starting to see a mosley stoppage

i think he will paw that jab out as a range finder to throw some vicious hooks while staying out of distance

i think a left hook shakes cotto early and sugar shane gets confidence from it and procedes to slowly dishearten cotto until around the 10th he stops him with a flurry of hooks

I disagree, pawing with the jab will only allow Cotto to slowy manuver his way inside near Mosley's body. If anything Mosley needs to throw a strong snapping jab discouraging Cotto (I'm not sure if he can be discouraged)

Stopping Cotto will be something that will happen in more of a sudden event....I have never seen Cotto disheartened even when taking a beating so I don't think it will happen against an on coming warrior such as Mosley who will invite a brawl.

[Drew101]

I'm picking Cotto to win, after much consideration.

We've already seen that Cotto has what it takes to nullify an opponent's speed adavantage, and, while SSM is a much more well-rounded fighter than Judah, he's still got a tendency to throw wide shots from time to time; this means that, if Cotto fights smart, he'll have the opportunity to counter Shane as he steps in.

Also, much has been made about the fact that Cotto isn't as good of a boxer as Mosley. While that may be true, he's still good enough to work his way into punching range (especially if Mosley paws with that jab), if he has to, or to draw SSM in close after making him miss (SSM isn't going to be able to catch him with everything, after all).

SSM's a great fighter, but, at some point, he's going to elect to trade, or, more likely, will be made to trade. Cotto's still got the edge in terms of power,and, right now, I think he's got the edge in terms of strength. When you combine that with the cool that he displays, I think that means he'll be able to come on late, and either score a late stoppage, or, secure a close decision.

[Mind Reader]

Can't wait for this fight, its gonna be great! Gotto go with Mosley, I hope he can take this.:happy

[Rakim]

I'm looking forward to this one. I'm really favouring Mosley at the moment, I think he'll be too quick for Cotto. Mosley TKO 10. Of course, my prediction will change, depending on who looks angriest at the weigh-in.

[dave82]

I'm looking forward to this one. I'm really favouring Mosley at the moment, I think he'll be too quick for Cotto. Mosley TKO 10. Of course, my prediction will change, depending on who looks angriest at the weigh-in.

Ohh come on, you know Mosley is always smiling :thumbsup

[platnumpapi]

well let me say i think cotto is the truth but at the same time he will not beat shane mosley.shane is a dynamic fighter with speed and power and ring smarts and he has a good chin.i think the fight will be a great fight to watch but i also think that shane will stop him mid late rounds.

the winner should fight the winner of pbf vs hatton i think.