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igotJUIC3
08-22-2007, 05:18 PM
Ricky Hatton (43-0, 31 KOs): A legendary boxing trainer named Whitey Bimstein, once said, "Show me a fighter who`s undefeated and I`ll show you a fighter who hasn't fought anybody." The prevailing thought is that Hatton is one of boxing`s best P4P fighters. Truth is, the press has taught us to think that Ricky is a great fighter but boxing records don`t lie. If you take away the politics and hype and go over the Hitman`s caliber of opposition with a fine tooth comb, his record is not impressive. The best opponents that he has fought in 41 total fights, have been a 33-year-old Jose Luis Castillo ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), who after the wear and tear of a 16-year career and 64 total fights, he was in reality a washed up boxer when he faced Ricky. Then there is Kosta Tszyu who was in his mid-thirties and at the end of his 13-year career, just a shell of his former self when he fought Hatton.
Hatton fought an overrated and limited Juan Urango, and the level of weak competition that Urango fought in his native Columbia is highly suspicious. And remember Luis Collazo? Who was TKO`ed by Edwin Cassasini in 2002. Collazo is a good but not a great fighter, but he did, however, expose Hatton as a fighter who can`t deal with boxers that move. Collazo-Hatton gave us a snapshot of the future outcome of the Mayweather-Hatton fight. The reality is, it is going to be a match-up nightmare for Hatton. Currently, his stock is steady but after examining his caliber of competition,it is starting to tank. STOCK DOWN
This was in an article on ESB....i just wanted to see what the rest of you think about this analysis of Hatton.
Caper
08-22-2007, 05:23 PM
:think
lefthook31
08-22-2007, 05:28 PM
I think its going to be the other way around. Hattons swarming style is going to give Mayweather a little trouble, hes not as mobile as a guy like Collazo, he will stand in there and block punches, which is going to give Hatton more chances to score. This will be most active fighter Mayweather has ever faced next to Castillo who also threw a lot of punches.
Caper
08-22-2007, 05:32 PM
I think its going to be the other way around. Hattons swarming style is going to give Mayweather a little trouble, hes not as mobile as a guy like Collazo, he will stand in there and block punches, which is going to give Hatton more chances to score. This will be most active fighter Mayweather has ever faced next to Castillo who also threw a lot of punches.
:huh
lefthook31
08-22-2007, 05:35 PM
:huh
Hes not really, he will stand in there and block punches. Collazo is like Wittier, you need track shoes to fight him.
igotJUIC3
08-22-2007, 05:38 PM
Hes not really, he will stand in there and block punches. Collazo is like Wittier, you need track shoes to fight him.
r u serious?
TroubleLurks
08-22-2007, 05:38 PM
I agree. I think Hatton is in for it. As bad as I would like to see Mayweather lose, I just don't think Hatton has the tools to get it done. I would LOVE to be proven wrong though.
lefthook31
08-22-2007, 05:41 PM
r u serious?
Yes I am, and you will see the light on fight night.:nut This is not going to be a blowout for Mayweather, its going to be a tough grueling fight for him, especially if hes underestimating him.
Stewbear
08-22-2007, 05:42 PM
Hmm I dont see how Hatton's stock has fallen since he knocked out Castillo:patsch
Just another hater I guess.
igotJUIC3
08-22-2007, 05:42 PM
Yes I am, and you will see the light on fight night.:nut
what makes you say PBF isn't as mobile as collazo if not more?
igotJUIC3
08-22-2007, 05:44 PM
Hmm I dont see how Hatton's stock has fallen since he knocked out Castillo:patsch
Just another hater I guess.
well he does say its steady but your right he contradict himself and say its down....i dont know
rendog67
08-22-2007, 05:46 PM
i think this is really unfair and hatton has beaten some excellent fighters all i can say is if hatton wins the author of that shouldn't write again. The guy who wrote that will feel like a complete jackass and probably wont write another piece unless it is "mayweathers stock"
igotJUIC3
08-22-2007, 05:48 PM
i think this is really unfair and hatton has beaten some excellent fighters all i can say is if hatton wins the author of that shouldn't write again. The guy who wrote that will feel like a complete jackass and probably wont write another piece unless it is "mayweathers stock"
well who would u say is excellent on his resume?
lefthook31
08-22-2007, 05:49 PM
what makes you say PBF isn't as mobile as collazo if not more?
Mayweather is the king of potshotting. He likes to move yes, but he mainly scores when he plants his feet and counters his oncoming opponent and takes off. Hes not a completely mobile boxer. He also relies on his defense to block and counter when hes up against the ropes too. Hatton is a high energy high volume puncher from all angles type of fighter. That style is going to offset Mayweathers ability to fight his fight, because Hatton throws all kinds of weird punches from different angles. Its going to make Mayweather stand in a little more and fight, which is going to make an exciting fight. Thats the way I see it. I think these two fights between Mosley and Cotto and Mayweather and Hatton are stylistically dream matches and are going to make real good fights.
igotJUIC3
08-22-2007, 06:00 PM
Mayweather is the king of potshotting. He likes to move yes, but he mainly scores when he plants his feet and counters his oncoming opponent and takes off. Hes not a completely mobile boxer. He also relies on his defense to block and counter when hes up against the ropes too. Hatton is a high energy high volume puncher from all angles type of fighter. That style is going to offset Mayweathers ability to fight his fight, because Hatton throws all kinds of weird punches from different angles. Its going to make Mayweather stand in a little more and fight, which is going to make an exciting fight. Thats the way I see it. I think these two fights between Mosley and Cotto and Mayweather and Hatton are stylistically dream matches and are going to make real good fights.
i see what ur saying but he throws lots of punches while moving....in fact he doesnt plant his feet that often. I think he is more mobile than collazo..but i respect what you say as well.
Alo2006
08-22-2007, 06:07 PM
I think its going to be the other way around. Hattons swarming style is going to give Mayweather a little trouble, hes not as mobile as a guy like Collazo, he will stand in there and block punches, which is going to give Hatton more chances to score. This will be most active fighter Mayweather has ever faced next to Castillo who also threw a lot of punches.
Mayweather is not as mobile as Collazo :? :patsch
lefthook31
08-22-2007, 06:09 PM
Mayweather is not as mobile as Collazo :? :patsch
I agree, I think he moves a lot, but not as much as Collazo. Collazo is only a boxer mover, Floyd mixes it up more.
well who would u say is excellent on his resume?
koysta was, you can only beat who's in front of you and hatton has done that. if excellent fighters only fought fighters who had excellent fighters on their resume no fights would ever get made. mayweather is a step up even from koysta but every time hatton has stepped up he's pulled out something extra, he allways fights better when it's a bigger fight and challenge. don't count him out.
brooklyn1550
08-22-2007, 07:52 PM
Hatton's stock has risen since the beginning of 2007
psychopath
08-22-2007, 07:59 PM
I think its going to be the other way around. Hattons swarming style is going to give Mayweather a little trouble, hes not as mobile as a guy like Collazo, he will stand in there and block punches, which is going to give Hatton more chances to score. This will be most active fighter Mayweather has ever faced next to Castillo who also threw a lot of punches.
:yikes :yikes :yikes :yikes
:gsg :gsg :gsg :gsg
:cus :crying
Hatton's stock has risen since the beginning of 2007
yep. castillo was a great fighter that was maybe past his prime but it was the way he ko'd a guy in 4 that had never been ko'd before taht waas impressive.
dave82
08-22-2007, 08:24 PM
yep. castillo was a great fighter that was maybe past his prime but it was the way he ko'd a guy in 4 that had never been ko'd before taht waas impressive.
Agree.
Smokin'Joe100
08-22-2007, 08:49 PM
You know what I want to see, An extremely competitive bout, along the lines of where Hatton is getting completely outboxed for the 1st 8 rounds, then rounds 8-12 Hattons fire lights and he sarts fucking up Mayweather with some hyper combinations. I'd like to see Hatton marmalising Mayweather for the last 5 and in the 12th Knock him down and have him seriously hurt. I say this for the sole reaons that after the fight, there will be so many "Hatton Was Robbed", "Hatton would have won over 15" "Mayweather had the decision" and "Mayweather out-hustled Hatton" threads that i'd be in heaven!
teekay00
08-23-2007, 04:34 AM
If Floyd Mayweather says he only fights the best then trust himon this one. He is coming out of retirement to probe that he is the best because many people out there including me think he has a lot of competition out there, not that my opinion counts or anything, seriously.
achillesthegreat
08-23-2007, 07:33 AM
I read two lines, its moronic.
The guy is still in the midst of his career. He is fighting the best fighter in the world so clearly if he is still undefeated, it has nothing to do with not fighting anyone.
He has fought a top 10 140 and a top 30 135. That ends the discussion.
He has fought titlists like Collazo, Urango and Maussa.
He has fought contenders like Tackie and Magee.
He's fought D fighters to A fighters.
This thread is garbage.
GazOC
08-23-2007, 07:46 AM
Sticking with the theme of the article, unless Mayweather humiliates Hatton and beats him easily, how is Hattons stock going to go down? He's stepping up in weight and fighting the P4P #1, Hatton could actually lose a close fight and have his stock go up.
MacManJr.
08-23-2007, 09:06 AM
Why do people keep saying Hatton is high energy and throws all these combos? I never saw him fight before he fought Tszyu and all I ever saw him do is throw 2 to 3 punches and hold.
Guru_Too_You
08-23-2007, 09:13 AM
I read two lines, its moronic.
The guy is still in the midst of his career. He is fighting the best fighter in the world so clearly if he is still undefeated, it has nothing to do with not fighting anyone.
He has fought a top 10 140 and a top 30 135. That ends the discussion.
He has fought titlists like Collazo, Urango and Maussa.
He has fought contenders like Tackie and Magee.
He's fought D fighters to A fighters.
This thread is garbage.
LOL.
Your assesment of Hatton is garbage.
And when he is absolutely embarassed in November youll understand why.
lefthook31
08-23-2007, 10:09 AM
Why do people keep saying Hatton is high energy and throws all these combos? I never saw him fight before he fought Tszyu and all I ever saw him do is throw 2 to 3 punches and hold.
Thats his style, hes not the prettiest guy, but he mugs his opponents with wrestling, holding, fighting on the inside and out. This type of style, usually pulls technicians out of their gameplan. Im not so sure Hatton is going to win, but hes NOT going to get completely dominated like a lot of people on this forum think.
GazOC
08-23-2007, 10:12 AM
Hatton doesn't just hold on the inside, he's trying move his opponent for a hook
lefthook31
08-23-2007, 10:19 AM
Hatton doesn't just hold on the inside, he's trying move his opponent for a hook
He doesnt JUST hold, but he does hold a bit.
Taffyy
08-23-2007, 10:31 AM
Why do people keep saying Hatton is high energy and throws all these combos? I never saw him fight before he fought Tszyu and all I ever saw him do is throw 2 to 3 punches and hold.
He kept tight to Kostya & held to avoid getting caught sweet by one of the biggest hitters p4p at the time....Past his best or not the last thing a fighter looses is his puch especially a p4p like tszyu.......It was a tactic & it worked......!!!.........These Hatton threads are getting boring now , He will bring it to Floyd of that I have no doubt , Can he beat him ????.......Yes , WILL he beat him , dont know , FM is the most talented & natural "boxer" of our generation but if Hatton can get him into a messy brawl he has a v.good chance.........
MacManJr.
08-23-2007, 10:42 AM
He kept tight to Kostya & held to avoid getting caught sweet by one of the biggest hitters p4p at the time....Past his best or not the last thing a fighter looses is his puch especially a p4p like tszyu.......It was a tactic & it worked......!!!.........These Hatton threads are getting boring now , He will bring it to Floyd of that I have no doubt , Can he beat him ????.......Yes , WILL he beat him , dont know , FM is the most talented & natural "boxer" of our generation but if Hatton can get him into a messy brawl he has a v.good chance.........All I'm saying is that's the only tactic I have ever seen him use so people need to stop with the high energy combo punching comments.
igotJUIC3
08-23-2007, 12:41 PM
He kept tight to Kostya & held to avoid getting caught sweet by one of the biggest hitters p4p at the time....Past his best or not the last thing a fighter looses is his puch especially a p4p like tszyu.......It was a tactic & it worked......!!!.........These Hatton threads are getting boring now , He will bring it to Floyd of that I have no doubt , Can he beat him ????.......Yes , WILL he beat him , dont know , FM is the most talented & natural "boxer" of our generation but if Hatton can get him into a messy brawl he has a v.good chance.........
lol..calm down....the article was on ESB and i wanted to see what everyone thinks..its a legitimate argument...if the thread was boring why post or read....its only for discussion...like the thousands of other threads on boxers.
Anyways i dont think his stock is down i think its up if anything which is why he even got the fight. However, his assesment to me is on point....whether you like it or not.
Taffyy
08-23-2007, 12:44 PM
Id say you need to watch a few more of his fights mate.........ALOT more to him than just holding , He adopts that tactic against fighters ,who for various reasons , could cause him problems if he lets them dance or move to freely , with Tzsyu it was to nulify his power shots with Mayweather it will be to TRY to stop the excellent movement & dangerous shots he will be prone to if he simply tries to "box" Floyd....
Chert
08-23-2007, 01:17 PM
lol..calm down....the article was on ESB and i wanted to see what everyone thinks..its a legitimate argument...if the thread was boring why post or read....its only for discussion...like the thousands of other threads on boxers.
Anyways i dont think his stock is down i think its up if anything which is why he even got the fight. However, his assesment to me is on point....whether you like it or not.
i think the article does present some valid points. both tszuyu and castillio were clearly past their prime when hatton fought them.
i think the article does present some valid points. both tszuyu and castillio were clearly past their prime when hatton fought them.
can't see how you can say they were clearly past their prime we can only assume. castillo is often a slow starter and got ko'd in 4 by a shot that would have stopped him just the same in his younger days. and koysta had showed nothing previously in previous fights e.g. blowing out mitchell in 3 that showed he was clearly past his prime. and the koysta that quit on his stool after 11 hard rounds didn't even show he was clearly past his prime in the hatton fight.
Chert
08-23-2007, 01:39 PM
can't see how you can say they were clearly past their prime we can only assume. castillo is often a slow starter and got ko'd in 4 by a shot that would have stopped him just the same in his younger days. and koysta had showed nothing previously in previous fights e.g. blowing out mitchell in 3 that showed he was clearly past his prime. and the koysta that quit on his stool after 11 hard rounds didn't even show he was clearly past his prime in the hatton fight.
castillio had two very lacklustre fights @140 before fighting hatton while tszuyu already in his mid-30s was not exactly in his prime when he faced hatton.
grayggr
08-23-2007, 01:46 PM
can't see how you can say they were clearly past their prime we can only assume. castillo is often a slow starter and got ko'd in 4 by a shot that would have stopped him just the same in his younger days. and koysta had showed nothing previously in previous fights e.g. blowing out mitchell in 3 that showed he was clearly past his prime. and the koysta that quit on his stool after 11 hard rounds didn't even show he was clearly past his prime in the hatton fight.
Prior to both fights Hatton was rated an underdog by many and neither Kostya or Jose Luis were considered past their prime/shot fighters.
Indeed Kostya was the betting favourite vs Hatton at the time, while the Castillo fight was a 'live'/pick em type of fight.
And further some comments in response to the article mention Hatton was floored by Magee, with Hatton winning a close match, and the same poster said the Urango fight was close.
Clearly these people just hear things, and repeat.
Hatton dominated in both fights, suffered a flash knockdown (in rd 1 - his only kd) against Magee - and promptly beat him up against the ropes all night, and completely outclassed Urango but simply tired at the end and looked hurt at one point from a strong body shot (it's boxing it happens).
Hatton is 28 and his carreer has taken off (his stock rising) since wins over Tackie, Stewart, Tzyu, Maussa, Collazo, Urango and Castillo. He looked bad v Collazo and questions were asked about his authenticity. He responded by stopping a big hearted former champ in Castillo with one of the body shots of the last 10 years. A man who had never previously been KO'd.
Hatton has two more years at least in him, then his career may be on the slide. It certainly isn't at the moment.
achillesthegreat
08-23-2007, 02:36 PM
LOL.
Your assesment of Hatton is garbage.
And when he is absolutely embarassed in November youll understand why.
:lol:
Your avatar is Chico, a man who got 'embarassed' by Floyd. Is he 'garbage'?
Guru_Too_You
08-23-2007, 02:37 PM
:lol:
Your avatar is Chico, a man who got 'embarassed' by Floyd. Is he 'garbage'?
Still honoring his death my friend.
And no, but I would also favor a prime Chico over Hatton.
And I'm pretty sure I said YOUR analysis (which is normally on point) of Hatton is garbage.
achillesthegreat
08-23-2007, 02:38 PM
He doesnt JUST hold, but he does hold a bit.
He mauls. He doesn't hold to flagrantly survive, rest or spoil the fight. He does it to fight his fight and create the opportunities he wants.
Funny...
...if Hopkins holds and hits or does illegal moves, he is a master. If Hatton does it, hes this and that.
Guru_Too_You
08-23-2007, 02:52 PM
He mauls. He doesn't hold to flagrantly survive, rest or spoil the fight. He does it to fight his fight and create the opportunities he wants.
Funny...
...if Hopkins holds and hits or does illegal moves, he is a master. If Hatton does it, hes this and that.
Hopkins is 42, Hatton is 28.
Biggame
08-23-2007, 02:56 PM
He mauls. He doesn't hold to flagrantly survive, rest or spoil the fight. He does it to fight his fight and create the opportunities he wants.
Funny...
...if Hopkins holds and hits or does illegal moves, he is a master. If Hatton does it, hes this and that.
Look...the guy hold, and he holds alot. I would say only about 40% of that holding is used in a mauling fashion to create opportunities! And Yeah he's become very boring, and up until the stoppage against Castillo is was like watching two turtle fuck!!
MacManJr.
08-23-2007, 02:59 PM
Look...the guy hold, and he holds alot. I would say only about 40% of that holding is used in a mauling fashion to create opportunities! And Yeah he's become very boring, and up until the stoppage against Castillo is was like watching two turtle fuck!!:rofl :rofl :rofl
Biggame
08-23-2007, 03:17 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl
As comical it may sound the shits true!! :yep
MacManJr.
08-23-2007, 03:51 PM
As comical it may sound the shits true!! :yepI agree with you 100%. If he wasn't fighting Floyd I wouldnt pay a nickel to watch Hatton again!
Boro chris
08-23-2007, 04:09 PM
LOL.
Your assesment of Hatton is garbage.
And when he is absolutely embarassed in November youll understand why.
He knows a fuck sight more than you sonny.
Guru_Too_You
08-23-2007, 04:10 PM
He knows a fuck sight more than you sonny.
LOL.
Ok champ.
If you happened to notice I said he's normally on point, but he's way off on this one.
Boro chris
08-23-2007, 04:16 PM
LOL.
Ok champ.
If you happened to notice I said he's normally on point, but he's way off on this one.
I just see it time and time again for various fighters (not just Hatton) It happens to Floyd as well-no matter how he performs against Hatton he'll get a slagging as well. Articles like the one under discusion are killing this site.
Right I'm off to get pissed and maybe shave my balls!
Not neccesairily in that order!:smoke
lefthook31
08-23-2007, 04:21 PM
I just see it time and time again for various fighters (not just Hatton) It happens to Floyd as well-no matter how he performs against Hatton he'll get a slagging as well. Articles like the one under discusion are killing this site.
Right I'm off to get pissed and maybe shave my balls!
Not neccesairily in that order!:smoke
:lol: Dont take it too serious, its just a boxing discussion.
achillesthegreat
08-23-2007, 04:30 PM
Still honoring his death my friend.
And no, but I would also favor a prime Chico over Hatton.
And I'm pretty sure I said YOUR analysis (which is normally on point) of Hatton is garbage.
The point still stands. You are implying Hatton is garbage and this will be proven when Floyd embarrasses him but it begs the question are Tito and Chico shit because they were dominated?
No! So your point was in fact 'garbage'.
achillesthegreat
08-23-2007, 04:31 PM
Look...the guy hold, and he holds alot. I would say only about 40% of that holding is used in a mauling fashion to create opportunities! And Yeah he's become very boring, and up until the stoppage against Castillo is was like watching two turtle fuck!!
He does hold because he is strong. Becuase he is muscling his opponent and tiring them out. Because he is on the inside. Because he is hitting at the same time. Because he wants to fight his fight at his pace and manouver opponents so he can land the shots he wants.
I'm sure you find Floyd v Baldo and DLH riveting. Hattons an exciting fighter. Don't hate just because you can't appreciate different fighters.
achillesthegreat
08-23-2007, 04:32 PM
Hopkins is 42, Hatton is 28.
Hopkins did it many years ago when he was fresh as a daisy.
Sandy Saddler did it as well! Is he shit?
Guru_Too_You
08-23-2007, 04:33 PM
The point still stands. You are implying Hatton is garbage and this will be proven when Floyd embarrasses him but it begs the question are Tito and Chico shit because they were dominated?
No! So your point was in fact 'garbage'.
OK, Hatton is a two weight champion, 43-0.
Obviously he is not garbage.
Its just that PBF is that good and just happens to be a stylistic NIGHTMARE for Ricky.
Guru_Too_You
08-23-2007, 04:34 PM
Hopkins did it many years ago when he was fresh as a daisy.
Sandy Saddler did it as well! Is he shit?
Don't put words in my mouth. Your using BigGame's words for me.
Hopkins had held more as his age advance, but if you want to try to tell me that Hopkins held like Hatton does when he was 28 youre seriously losing your mind.
Boro chris
08-23-2007, 04:39 PM
Anyone ever used a bottle nosed Dolphin as a bong?:think
achillesthegreat
08-23-2007, 04:41 PM
OK, Hatton is a two weight champion, 43-0.
Obviously he is not garbage.
Its just that PBF is that good and just happens to be a stylistic NIGHTMARE for Ricky.
Glad we cleared that up.
If either of them lose, its just a loss. They are both proven fighters.
We need to stop ruining the big fights with talk that is garbage.
achillesthegreat
08-23-2007, 04:43 PM
Don't put words in my mouth. Your using BigGame's words for me.
Hopkins had held more as his age advance, but if you want to try to tell me that Hopkins held like Hatton does when he was 28 youre seriously losing your mind.
What have I used of BigGames?
X holds and hits and is called a master onthe inside. Stop hiding behind this age BS.
Jack Johnson held and hit! Is he garbage?
Hattons an inside fighter. He does whatever he can to get there and then uses an array of moves to win.
Guru_Too_You
08-23-2007, 04:47 PM
What have I used of BigGames?
X holds and hits and is called a master onthe inside. Stop hiding behind this age BS.
Jack Johnson held and hit! Is he garbage?
Hattons an inside fighter. He does whatever he can to get there and then uses an array of moves to win.
OK.
I'm not talking Hatton with you, your panties get all in a bunch.
Prime Hopkins did not hold nearly as much as he does now. Thats there for anyone with eyes to see. His holding is completely relative to his age.
Hatton holds in his prime. Period.
Jack Johnson fought in the era of 40 round bouts for fucks sake. I think that gives a little leeway for taking a breather here and there.
Claypole
08-23-2007, 04:51 PM
I can't believe people are questioning Hatton's stock. Castillo was considered to be only slightly past his best, and was expected to give Hatton a tough time. Only when he got crushed did people say he was a shadow of the fighter he once was.
Kosta Tszyu was considered to be too good for Hatton, having looked very impressive in previous bouts. He was widely tipped to take Hatton out in the early to mid rounds. Only when Ricky did a number on him were people saying Tszyu was a shot fighter.
He may be guilty of holding, I admit, but it was punching that took these guys out.
J_Roth
08-23-2007, 05:36 PM
Sounds like a person who has a bad taste for Ricky. If you are going to make a article please do it from a neutral position.
1lehudson
08-23-2007, 06:29 PM
I think its going to be the other way around. Hattons swarming style is going to give Mayweather a little trouble, hes not as mobile as a guy like Collazo, he will stand in there and block punches, which is going to give Hatton more chances to score. This will be most active fighter Mayweather has ever faced next to Castillo who also threw a lot of punches.:rofl
Biggame
08-23-2007, 09:11 PM
I agree with you 100%. If he wasn't fighting Floyd I wouldnt pay a nickel to watch Hatton again!
Yeah I usual catch the delay, I love this sport, but not that much!!
Biggame
08-23-2007, 09:47 PM
He does hold because he is strong. Becuase he is muscling his opponent and tiring them out. Because he is on the inside. Because he is hitting at the same time. Because he wants to fight his fight at his pace and manouver opponents so he can land the shots he wants.
I'm sure you find Floyd v Baldo and DLH riveting. Hattons an exciting fighter. Don't hate just because you can't appreciate different fighters.
Because, because, because... WTF!!!
I love all styles! Prefer some over others, but Hatton went from pressure fighter, to a horny rabbit!! He's a very ugly fighter, he's dirty, and now boring!!
BTW I did enjoy Floyd vs both Oscar, and Baldo,...I like Clinics and I'll certainly enjoy him beat the brakes off of Hatton. That hold, hug, hit style won't work against Floyd:nono Floyd will be dinging that dome everytime he attempts that huggy Bear shit, and when he does get there, he'll find Floyd more than prepared!
I've been waiting for this fight for a minute especially since I see where you're at now! Which express will you be on Achilles...I remember you on the Mayweather Express. Have you jumped ship, or are you just being patriotic? Who will you have fight night?
Who's it gonna be Achille's!!!
dave82
08-23-2007, 10:12 PM
Hattons stock.....is great for soups?
Biggame
08-23-2007, 10:21 PM
Hattons stock.....is great for soups?
:lol: :lol:
achillesthegreat
08-24-2007, 03:18 AM
OK.
I'm not talking Hatton with you, your panties get all in a bunch.
Prime Hopkins did not hold nearly as much as he does now. Thats there for anyone with eyes to see. His holding is completely relative to his age.
Hatton holds in his prime. Period.
Jack Johnson fought in the era of 40 round bouts for fucks sake. I think that gives a little leeway for taking a breather here and there.
My panties aren't in a bunch.
You made a stupid post, I corrected you.
Stop giving me age bullshit.
Jack Johnson, Sandy Saddler and Bernard Hopkins. Three greats who hold and hit. Don't give me excuses for all of them.
Hell, Saddler knocked Pep down when holding and hitting.
Leonard does it, so does Lewis.
Hatton just does it alot, thats his fight. He mauls and brawls. Period.
achillesthegreat
08-24-2007, 03:20 AM
Because, because, because... WTF!!!
I love all styles! Prefer some over others, but Hatton went from pressure fighter, to a horny rabbit!! He's a very ugly fighter, he's dirty, and now boring!!
BTW I did enjoy Floyd vs both Oscar, and Baldo,...I like Clinics and I'll certainly enjoy him beat the brakes off of Hatton. That hold, hug, hit style won't work against Floyd:nono Floyd will be dinging that dome everytime he attempts that huggy Bear shit, and when he does get there, he'll find Floyd more than prepared!
I've been waiting for this fight for a minute especially since I see where you're at now! Which express will you be on Achilles...I remember you on the Mayweather Express. Have you jumped ship, or are you just being patriotic? Who will you have fight night?
Who's it gonna be Achille's!!!
You clearly don't like all styles.
Floyds gonna get bunny fucked. I have to stick by our man.
Floyds still the best fighter in the world, hes still the favourite and hes still everything I always said he is but times have changed.
Come back to me on December 9th. But until then...
...FLOYDS GETTING FUCKED!
Taffyy
08-24-2007, 04:03 AM
Look...the guy hold, and he holds alot. I would say only about 40% of that holding is used in a mauling fashion to create opportunities! And Yeah he's become very boring, and up until the stoppage against Castillo is was like watching two turtle fuck!!
He can turtle fuck Floyd for 12 rds for all I care , If i gets him the win....!!!!!!!!!!!!
Biggame
08-24-2007, 11:17 AM
You clearly don't like all styles.
Floyds gonna get bunny fucked. I have to stick by our man.
Floyds still the best fighter in the world, hes still the favourite and hes still everything I always said he is but times have changed.
Come back to me on December 9th. But until then...
...FLOYDS GETTING FUCKED!
I certainly do, but Hatton's style isn't a style anymore...it's Felony Crime AKA sexual assault. It's an unwanted Sexual advance where the advancer gets offended. It's an after 12 before 6 type of thing. We all need love, but he'll Hatton gives it to everyone he fights, and alot of it!! I think that restraining from sex during training camp really gets to him when he has another man across the ring. He no longer looks at them as an opponent, but a potential Bed mate for the night! Thank God for corner men!!
Just messing w/you. I hear ya sticking by your man, as I will stick by mine, and Dec. 9th I will holla!! Til then we will be going back and forth about it!
I respect your stand but Hatton's getting starched DEC. 8th and I won't even give you shit about it!!
Biggame
08-24-2007, 11:19 AM
He can turtle fuck Floyd for 12 rds for all I care , If i gets him the win....!!!!!!!!!!!!
He'll be turtle fucking, but it won't be Floyd...he'll have to wait til his next fight, or he can go by a turtle himself and enjoy a nightcap!!
achillesthegreat
08-24-2007, 11:37 AM
I certainly do, but Hatton's style isn't a style anymore...it's Felony Crime AKA sexual assault. It's an unwanted Sexual advance where the advancer gets offended. It's an after 12 before 6 type of thing. We all need love, but he'll Hatton gives it to everyone he fights, and alot of it!! I think that restraining from sex during training camp really gets to him when he has another man across the ring. He no longer looks at them as an opponent, but a potential Bed mate for the night! Thank God for corner men!!
Just messing w/you. I hear ya sticking by your man, as I will stick by mine, and Dec. 9th I will holla!! Til then we will be going back and forth about it!
I respect your stand but Hatton's getting starched DEC. 8th and I won't even give you shit about it!!
Come Dec 9th you will see Hatton look to do what Saddler did to Pep and by god he will DO IT!
Biggame
08-24-2007, 12:03 PM
Come Dec 9th you will see Hatton look to do what Saddler did to Pep and by god he will DO IT!
Unfortunately God won't be in the ring w/him!!
Guru_Too_You
08-24-2007, 12:10 PM
My panties aren't in a bunch.
You made a stupid post, I corrected you.
Stop giving me age bullshit.
Jack Johnson, Sandy Saddler and Bernard Hopkins. Three greats who hold and hit. Don't give me excuses for all of them.
Hell, Saddler knocked Pep down when holding and hitting.
Leonard does it, so does Lewis.
Hatton just does it alot, thats his fight. He mauls and brawls. Period.
Maul and brawl I can handle.
Jab and grab I cant.
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