View Full Version : Povetkin vs Dimitrenko in works ?
Artani
03-25-2009, 12:42 PM
Alexander Povetkin (16-0, 12 KOs), mandatory challenger of IBF heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko, will take a final warm-up fight on April 4 when he faces Jason Estrada (15-1, 3 KOs) in Dusseldorf. The 29-year-old was scheduled to fight Klitschko in December 2008 but an ankle injury forced him to postpone the hotly anticipated showdown. The IBF ruled that their meeting has to take place before September 13, 2009.... but he is not going to fight Wlad this year.
Povetkin will fight Dimitrenko ! This news coming from one Saurland member. The Saurland Event is not interesting to push Povetkin this year in hard fight with Wlad, they want Dimitrenko.
Saurland and Universum wants also to make rematch betwen Brewster vs Krasniqi and some good match up`s.
Artan Verbica
25 March 2009
I'd love this fight.
I think the winner would perhaps emerge as the best European heavyweight outside the Klitschko's. It's a good clash of styles with the larger, stand up jabbing style of Dimitrenko against the the well schooled pressure of Povetkin.
My money would be on the Russian by decision. It would of course be good preperation for a fight with the Klitschko's too.
emanuel_augustus
03-25-2009, 01:38 PM
It is good prep for Wlad. Dimitrenko is a tall (6' 7") boxer with a stand up, jab first style but not near the danger of Wlad. Povetkin's aggression should be able to get through Dimitrenko's guard and I really think he'll stop him in the middle rounds. Dimitrenko is hittable and not very mobile laterally.
galeranews
03-25-2009, 02:49 PM
It could be nice fight. Povetkin who is on the right way to be a world champion and Dimitrenko who is very good fighter for me. He's sometimes afraid of some boxers, but he beated good boxers like Luan Krasniqi or Vaughn Bean, he's quiet young and he can do a lot in Heavyweight Division. Povetkin has very good technic, his one-two combinations are perfect. For me Povetkin is older, but better than Dimitrenko.
UD for Povetkin, like 116-112/117-111.
Should be a good fight. Dimitrenko is likely to be forced to fight on the back foot. I can't see Dimitrenko hurting and/or outworking Povetkin. Povetkin should be able to win a quite comfortable points decision in an entertaining fight.
Alcaldemb
03-25-2009, 06:39 PM
This has been in the works for awhile and might already be signed. If Povetkin beats Estrada he will be fighting Dimitrenko in July, which will allow him to fight Klitschko in September.
Mendoza
03-25-2009, 08:40 PM
I'd love this fight.
I think the winner would perhaps emerge as the best European heavyweight outside the Klitschko's. It's a good clash of styles with the larger, stand up jabbing style of Dimitrenko against the the well schooled pressure of Povetkin.
My money would be on the Russian by decision. It would of course be good preperation for a fight with the Klitschko's too.
Povetkin vs Dimitrenko would be an old school way of matching two un-defeated top ten fighters vs each other with the winner getting world title shot.
I may be in the minority here, but I think Dimitrenko is under rated and is just starting to come into his own.
Not sure who wins here. How about the boxing fans for a change!
TRAIN
03-25-2009, 11:06 PM
Povetkin vs Dimitrenko would be an old school way of matching two un-defeated top ten fighters vs each other with the winner getting world title shot.
I may be in the minority here, but I think Dimitrenko is under rated and is just starting to come into his own.
Not sure who wins here. How about the boxing fans for a change!
agreed, he's looked better and better in his last few outings, and i think he would give any top 10 alot of trouble....
i think its time for ukie domination :) lol.. we just need platov, bidenko and virchis to move up in the rankings..
KobeIsGod
03-25-2009, 11:22 PM
I hope this is true. I like Povetkin but he needs to work on a lot of things before stepping in with either Klitschko. I read a recent interview stating he's still intent on facing Wlad so maybe he and his management are not on the same page. I'd favor Povetkin against everyone outside the KLITS including superfraud Valuev and Chagaev.
Haven't seen a ton on Dimitrenko...has big physical advantages and decent skills but looks no better than a borderline top 10 hw. Povetkin is the goods.
This would free up Wlad to take on the WBA trinket holder after he blasts hypejob Haye to another universe. I reckon Vitali gets to beat up on another American beachball, Arreola.
Farmboxer
03-26-2009, 02:09 AM
Wise move for Povetkin. He is not ready for Vlad. However, there was some talk for Vlad Vs. Povetkin, but if Vlad fights Haye, it can happen.
Rick G
03-26-2009, 03:17 AM
No way - tell me one good reason why Sauerland and Universum should risk their *undefeated* raising stars and future cash cows against each other???
Krasniqi vs. Brewster makes no sense to me, too, as Brewster clearly won in their first encounter - remember: he forced Krasniqi to quit! - and Krasniqi is shot since then. Who wants to see another match where Krasniqi stands back to the ropes with double guard and the other guy abuses him as a boxing bag? It seems to me that Krasniqi prefers shopping men's fashion over being in the ring these days ...
Bring Brewster vs. Minto instead!
Povetkin vs. Holyfield!
Dimitrenko vs. Thompson!
Cachibatches
03-26-2009, 11:46 PM
No way - tell me one good reason why Sauerland and Universum should risk their *undefeated* raising stars and future cash cows against each other???
Krasniqi vs. Brewster makes no sense to me, too, as Brewster clearly won in their first encounter - remember: he forced Krasniqi to quit! - and Krasniqi is shot since then. Who wants to see another match where Krasniqi stands back to the ropes with double guard and the other guy abuses him as a boxing bag? It seems to me that Krasniqi prefers shopping men's fashion over being in the ring these days ...
Bring Brewster vs. Minto instead!
Povetkin vs. Holyfield!
Dimitrenko vs. Thompson!
How bout Povetkin V Brewster?
Or, if he wants to try out some tall fighters with heavy hands:
Povetkin v Michael Grant?
Povetkin V Dokiwari
Povetkin v Winner of Arreola-Mcline
Povekin V Virchis
I agree here- no need to set either one of these guys back.
Officilally, I pick Povetkin while agreeing with Mendoza that Dimintrenko is better than most people seem to think.
How bout Povetkin V Brewster?
Or, if he wants to try out some tall fighters with heavy hands:
Povetkin v Michael Grant?
Povetkin V Dokiwari
Povetkin v Winner of Arreola-Mcline
Povekin V Virchis
I agree here- no need to set either one of these guys back.
Officilally, I pick Povetkin while agreeing with Mendoza that Dimintrenko is better than most people seem to think.
Brewster now fights for Sauerland. Both he and Povetkin have the same powerful German promoter now.
A fight between then could easily be staged.Brewster is a very well known name on German soil as well as on American soil.
Grecorussian
03-29-2009, 09:54 AM
Povetkin will win Dimitrenko. Not easily but he will...
I don't understand one thing . What do you mean when you say "Povetkin will not meet Vlad this year". I think if he doesn't meet him until September then he can't meet him . That is the deadline (for the IBF belt).
Am I wrong ? :huh
This whole "Povetkin vs. Vlad fight" is very complicated issue...
Can anyone explain it ? :D
Alcaldemb
03-29-2009, 10:22 AM
Povetkin fighting Dimitrenko, or Dimitrenko fighting Povetkin, however you want to look at it, doesn't prevent either mandatory from eventually meeting Klitschko later this year. All it does is force Wladimir's hand in that he has to fight the winner as he would be EBU champ and number one contender in both the IBF and WBO.
christo
04-01-2009, 11:27 PM
Cannot see povetkin risking his mando opp on a danger man like sasha D.
Me thinks with about 2 more years of growing that dim will rule the heavy's.
11player
04-02-2009, 10:34 PM
C'mon guys, this matchup makes no sense.
Why would Povetkin risk taking this fight for no belt, making only a fraction of what he would make against Wlad, with a risk of a loss not that diferent from a Wlad fight, when he is already set to fight Wlad no later than September?
These rumors are BS fosho.
kenmore
04-10-2009, 02:02 PM
C'mon guys, this matchup makes no sense.
Why would Povetkin risk taking this fight for no belt, making only a fraction of what he would make against Wlad, with a risk of a loss not that diferent from a Wlad fight, when he is already set to fight Wlad no later than September?
These rumors are BS fosho.
Based on his performance against Estrada, Povetkin is a long way from being prepared for Vlad. My guess is that everyone involved in the Vlad-Povetkin situation -- the promoters, the managers, the trainers and even the fighters themselves -- realize that Povetkin needs more polish before he's ready for Klitschko. Thus, it makes sense that Povetkin should fight Dmitrienko to obtain more seasoning.
Right now, a fight against Vlad would hold no value for Povetkin except for the financial payday. Povetkin would be beaten badly and his future would be jeopardized. A big payday would not adequately compensate Povetkin for a ruined future. If Povetkin waits another year before fighting Vlad, his chances of success would probably be much better.
Dmitrienko and Povetkin are on similar skill and experience levels right now. They should fight so that the winner emerges as a better boxer.
Farmboxer
04-11-2009, 03:27 AM
Povetkin could lose to Dimitrenko, he would lose a big payday in doing such.
k2fan
04-11-2009, 05:02 AM
Povetkin could lose to Dimitrenko, he would lose a big payday in doing such.
And the inverse is true also, Dimitrenko could lose. Both guys are the #1 contenders, so it's equal risk for both I think. I don't get why nearly everyone is so concerned for Povetkin and but not for Dimitrenko, other than that Dimitrenko maybe is less well known.
This would be a very interesting fight I think, and it should happen. Povetkin has gotta know that he's really not ready for a Sep matchup potentially against Klitschko. Dimitrenko definitely isn't ready to face Klitschko either when he's enforced as the WBO mandatory.
This fight could be a good test for both guys and I hope it can happen!
avk47
04-11-2009, 05:46 AM
It should happen. If Povetkin just wants a big pay day and get out of boxing, then he shouldn't risk it. If he wants greatness, he needs this bout as preparation for Klitschko. If he can't beat Dmitrenko, then he won't beat Klitschko. Sometimes the path of most resistance is the beter one!
sjomcik
04-11-2009, 07:35 AM
Dimitrenko will take it
skier47
04-12-2009, 02:41 AM
Say the worst happens for Povetkin and he loses to Dimentrenko. Most great fighters lose to someone on their way up and if he has real talent he will learn from the loss and work on perfecting his skills. He can take some more fights with top 20 guys and wait for the Klitscho's to age, challenge Haye or rematch Dimentrenko. He looked really good at times against Estrada, very fast footwork closing the distance quickly and threw terrific left hooks but man he was gassing fairly early and his defense was bad especially when he was pressuring Jason. On the other hand he counterpunched beautifully when Jason came forward. With seasoning this guy could be something special but he's not ready for Wlad. I can see how he wants the big money now but his career could be wrecked. Wlad tends to mess people's careers up like Calvin Brock and Sultan. Hate to see that happen to a young talent like A.P.
Mendoza
04-12-2009, 11:37 AM
Based on his performance against Estrada, Povetkin is a long way from being prepared for Vlad. My guess is that everyone involved in the Vlad-Povetkin situation -- the promoters, the managers, the trainers and even the fighters themselves -- realize that Povetkin needs more polish before he's ready for Klitschko. Thus, it makes sense that Povetkin should fight Dmitrienko to obtain more seasoning.
Right now, a fight against Vlad would hold no value for Povetkin except for the financial payday. Povetkin would be beaten badly and his future would be jeopardized. A big payday would not adequately compensate Povetkin for a ruined future. If Povetkin waits another year before fighting Vlad, his chances of success would probably be much better.
Dmitrienko and Povetkin are on similar skill and experience levels right now. They should fight so that the winner emerges as a better boxer.
Povetkin has stalled for time. He is as good as he is going to get, minus say losing about 10 pounds. In boixng, $$$ rules. Team Povetkin will angle for a larger than normal pay day for a Wlad opponent, then roll the dice.
I think Wlad is a lot better, however Povetin has the style, chin, and will a to make it a very intersting fight. Povetkin will not stop trying to win.
Wlad will need to be sharp, otherwise an upset can happen.
BULLFROMBORNEO
04-12-2009, 01:19 PM
Toss-up for me. I would lean a little more towards Dimitrenko but I'd like to see how he does at a slightly higher level first, but this definitely is not a sure victory for Povetkin. Povetkin likes to get in close, and often crowds his punches. I see Dimitrenko troubling Povetkin with his jab, lateral movement, and superior defense.
Awesome match up if it happens. German promoters get a lot of stick but Universam and Sauerland deserve a lot of credit if they put there top undefeated HW prospects in with each other. This fight will be for the vacant Euro title if it happens I think.
Anyway, atm I think Povetkin wins on points 8 rounds to 4 or 7 rounds to 5. I think Povetkin is the more seasoned fighter and Dimitrenko is still improving. I don't think Dimitrenko will be able to cope with Povetkin's pressure and quantity of punches.
skier47
04-12-2009, 11:43 PM
Povetkin has stalled for time. He is as good as he is going to get, minus say losing about 10 pounds. In boixng, $$$ rules. Team Povetkin will angle for a larger than normal pay day for a Wlad opponent, then roll the dice.
I think Wlad is a lot better, however Povetin has the style, chin, and will a to make it a very intersting fight. Povetkin will not stop trying to win.
Wlad will need to be sharp, otherwise an upset can happen.
Povetkin is a good as he is going to get after 16 pro fights? Wlad has over 50 and didn't perfect his present winning style until about his 40th fight. What makes you say Povetkin has a good chin? Has he fought any power-punchers yet or even Chris Arreola level punchers? He may well have a great chin but we won't know that until he gets tagged by a Brewster, Briggs or a Wlad. A fight with Dimitrenko, given the huge European audience I'm sure would make both fighters a lot of money and A.P. could learn alot about coping with a tall fighter with a very good jab, minus the firepower of Wlad. I can't see a downside unless he gets embarrassed by Dimitrenko which I can't see happening.
Artani
04-13-2009, 10:12 AM
I will say chances are 70-30 for Povetkin....
Dimitrenko beats Luan Krasniqi by KO 3 and Derrick Rossy by TKO 5 in the 2008.
Povetkin beats Eddie Chambers by UD 12 in the IBF heavyweight eliminator and Taurus Sykus by TKO 4 in the 2008. In the 2009 beats also Jason Estrada by UD 10.
I can say that Dimitrenko fights only one good till now, its Luan Krasniqi. Povetkin fights Byrd, Chambers, Estarda ....
KobeIsGod
04-17-2009, 05:28 PM
any new news on this front? i still find it hard to believe both guys jeopardize their #1 rankings but i'd love to see this before either step in with wlad.
Grecorussian
04-19-2009, 04:47 AM
any new news on this front? i still find it hard to believe both guys jeopardize their #1 rankings but i'd love to see this before either step in with wlad.
They will not fight. Sasha will go for Klitschko. It is already in his personal website. "Next fight vs Klitchko" he says...
Grecorussian
04-21-2009, 11:46 AM
What we suspected is official . They will not fight !
Artani
04-21-2009, 12:46 PM
The fight will happen, I garrantue ....
k2fan
04-21-2009, 02:32 PM
The fight will happen, I garrantue ....
:lol::nut
Farmboxer
04-22-2009, 01:58 AM
Looks like that fight will not happen. Povetkin can't risk a big money fight Vs. Vlad. Povetkin will lose the fight, but a loss to Vlad will not hurt his career.
Serenata
04-22-2009, 02:47 AM
Never will Povetkin risk the big payday. Dimi is to much of a thread for that...
Rick G
04-22-2009, 04:08 AM
Why not match Dimitrenko vs. Minto? Minto is still well known in Germany from his big fights vs. Schulz and Krasniqi. Minto is ranked #10 WBO currently, so he can be considered for an eliminator. BTW if he can beat the man who beat Krasniqi he has no unfinished business any longer! After his bloody fight vs. Greer he needs some time to recover, but he should be ready in June. So bring it on!!!
Mendoza
04-22-2009, 05:53 AM
Never will Povetkin risk the big payday. Dimi is to much of a thread for that...
IMO, Povetkin looks bad by pulling out here. The winner of a match between two young undfeated top ten heavies would be most worthy of a fight with Wlad.
I get the feeling the baby faced Dimitrenko has matured and is getting ready to become one of the big time players in heavyweight boxing.
Dimitrenko has imporved greatly. Three years from now he could be the #1 heavyweight in the world.
IMO, Povetkin looks bad by pulling out here. The winner of a match between two young undfeated top ten heavies would be most worthy of a fight with Wlad.
I get the feeling the baby faced Dimitrenko has matured and is getting ready to become one of the big time players in heavyweight boxing.
Dimitrenko has imporved greatly. Three years from now he could be the #1 heavyweight in the world.
Although I am a Povetkin fan I must admit it looks and sounds like Povetkin is ducking Dimitrenko. I watched his lasts fight again and I find that since the Byrd fight Povetkin didn't progress, in fact he got worse. Especially in his last fight vs Estrada he should have stopped him comfortably in about 5 rounds, but instead he was struggling. Too bad for a guy with some much quality.
On the other hand I think you get a little carried away with Dimitrenko, I agree with you that he made good progrees, but he still has a dubious chin and that isn't gonna change. Also I'm not convinced by his stamina and power. We'll see what happpes.
Artani
04-22-2009, 05:38 PM
Why not match Dimitrenko vs. Minto? Minto is still well known in Germany from his big fights vs. Schulz and Krasniqi. Minto is ranked #10 WBO currently, so he can be considered for an eliminator. BTW if he can beat the man who beat Krasniqi he has no unfinished business any longer! After his bloody fight vs. Greer he needs some time to recover, but he should be ready in June. So bring it on!!!
Minto is shot, but I agree they can be good fight for Dimitrenko. Sasha will win by UD or late KO.
Fight betwen Dimitrenko vs Povetkin is going to happen. The Klitschkos will give money to happen this fight and all thinks to see how much they are strong for them ....
Klitschkos are very smart in this bussines :good
Mendoza
04-22-2009, 08:07 PM
Although I am a Povetkin fan I must admit it looks and sounds like Povetkin is ducking Dimitrenko. I watched his lasts fight again and I find that since the Byrd fight Povetkin didn't progress, in fact he got worse. Especially in his last fight vs Estrada he should have stopped him comfortably in about 5 rounds, but instead he was struggling. Too bad for a guy with some much quality.
On the other hand I think you get a little carried away with Dimitrenko, I agree with you that he made good progrees, but he still has a dubious chin and that isn't gonna change. Also I'm not convinced by his stamina and power. We'll see what happpes.
I think Dimitrenko's chin is solid. He was dropped just once, but it was a flush hook to the jaw. I also think Dimitrenko passed a heart test vs Hoffman.
Dimitrenko seems to move even better than Wlad, He in-fights well, and has developed good power to the head or body. This boy is now maturing into a man.
While he lacks Wlad's power, I think by 2012 when Vitali is retired and Wlad is 35+, Dimitrenko might be the best around. Dimitrenko is a super heavy with skills.
Povetkin pulled out of this fight, because he would lose. Chambers, who is a legit top ten guy exposed Povetkin a bit in defeat.
IMO, Povetkin needs to lose about 10 pounds, and regain his form.
Cachibatches
04-22-2009, 08:34 PM
I think Dimitrenko's chin is solid. He was dropped just once, but it was a flush hook to the jaw. I also think Dimitrenko passed a heart test vs Hoffman.
Dimitrenko seems to move even better than Wlad, He in-fights well, and has developed good power to the head or body. This boy is now maturing into a man.
While he lacks Wlad's power, I think by 2012 when Vitali is retired and Wlad is 35+, Dimitrenko might be the best around. Dimitrenko is a super heavy with skills.
Povetkin pulled out of this fight, because he would lose. Chambers, who is a legit top ten guy exposed Povetkin a bit in defeat.
IMO, Povetkin needs to lose about 10 pounds, and regain his form.
I think Dimi was dropped twice- Hoffamn and Chris Kovel.
But I happen to be of the oppinion that his chin and power are improving/will improve as he adds weight, and at 26, he has a lot more filling out to do. Heavies his size do not mature until they are 30 or better, so time is on his side.
As for Povetkin, yeah. I really like the guy, but even I have to admit that he has to do better. He should get a weights coach, drop some fo the dead weight, and focus on high rep- moderate weight lifts to increase muscular stamina. I know that he already throws 70 around- no one is immune to physics. If he would do this, his stamina would be legendary.
Bummy Davis
04-22-2009, 11:14 PM
thats a good match that both men should rebound from, I see Povetkin in a close UD but it could be closer...a good fight for both men, a learning experience...Bravo
Kampioni
04-22-2009, 11:59 PM
Isn't this fight off? i doubt it would of happened anyways.
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