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stevebhoy87
03-25-2009, 04:16 PM
I rate charles as being and pretty clearly my numero uno at light heavy however i suspect that langford may have been at his best at 175 as well and rate hime higher than ezzard all time. How do people see a fight between the 2 over 15 rounds going?
Minotauro
03-25-2009, 05:26 PM
I would take Charles via decision.
My2Sense
03-25-2009, 06:01 PM
I think Charles could outbox/outmaneuver him like he did in his wins over Jimmy Bivins.
he grant
03-25-2009, 06:30 PM
Ezzard has the tools to make a difficult bout but ultimately Ezzard liked to mix it up and there Langford would flatten him, especially over a 15 round bout ..
dpw417
03-25-2009, 06:44 PM
Ezzard Charles for me...by UD.
McGrain
03-25-2009, 07:43 PM
I've got Manassa breaking down Charles with a body attack late in the fight.

I got into details with Manassa over this one. I'll see if i can find it.
Mendoza
03-25-2009, 07:48 PM
Langford was far more durable, and hit harder. Charles liked to brawl often.Langford via KO.
McGrain
03-25-2009, 07:51 PM
Can't find it. May have been before the big crash.

I think Charles would be ahead on the cards when stopped. I just can't imagine him staying out of trouble for 15. Langford is also excellent at cutting and pre-cutting the ring - we have this on film thank fuck - Charles would get broken down badly for me. He was tough, but not tough enough for a consistant Langford body attack.
mcvey
03-25-2009, 10:11 PM
Can't find it. May have been before the big crash.

I think Charles would be ahead on the cards when stopped. I just can't imagine him staying out of trouble for 15. Langford is also excellent at cutting and pre-cutting the ring - we have this on film thank fuck - Charles would get broken down badly for me. He was tough, but not tough enough for a consistant Langford body attack.

So, does that make SAM your number 1 Light Heavy then?
McGrain
03-25-2009, 10:33 PM
Oh, no, it would take more than a fantasy fight pick to decide that, i think i'd probably pick Charles as my #1 at that weight. You?
SuzieQ49
03-25-2009, 10:39 PM
Just Curious Mendoza, Why such of a lack of respect for charles durability when he went the distance/not floored by top heavyweight punchers marciano, louis, valdez, ray, layne, wallace, haynes, and satterfield.


Also you say charles hit harder, but Charles once killed a man. he was nicknamed for the cincinatti cobra for a reason, he was a devastating puncher in his prime.

You say charles like to brawl, i disagree. he liked to box. Charles was a far better boxer than langford, and had much faster hands. this plays a big role.


I like charles by decision
mcvey
03-25-2009, 10:48 PM
Oh, no, it would take more than a fantasy fight pick to decide that, i think i'd probably pick Charles as my #1 at that weight. You?
Charles record at 175 is the finest ,imo .I have a hunch Tunney might out smart him,I expect Suzie will jump in now and say Tuney carried his hands low,well so did Loughran and he did allright.I find it difficult to place Langford,is he a great Middle? LhvY? Hvy? one ,two ,or all three?
Of the men who held the 175 title, I would go
Moore,Conn,Loughran, Foster,Spinks.in no order.
McGrain
03-26-2009, 07:52 AM
I think Langford is just The Greatest. I really do.
Minotauro
03-26-2009, 08:20 AM
Langford was far more durable, and hit harder. Charles liked to brawl often.Langford via KO.

Why do you always claim Charles like to brawl like he was Evander? And you are seriously underestimating Charles durability. While Langford does have a better chin Charles was very hard to stop, guys like Elmar Ray who was 20lbs bigger and Rocky when Charles was past his best weren't able to stop him. He had a good chin and excellent recovery/ heart so he was very difficult to stop.
Cmoyle
03-26-2009, 09:17 AM
Think Charles vs. Marciano, only in Langford, Charles would be facing a guy with better skills than Marciano as well.
stevebhoy87
03-26-2009, 11:41 AM
Think Charles vs. Marciano, only in Langford, Charles would be facing a guy with better skills than Marciano as well.

Charles was past his prime and above his best weight class in those fights however.

I'm almost 50/50 in this fight, i agree with most of what people have said above, i can see charles outboxing langford over 15 rounds for a UD, however i can also see langford being behind on points beginning to get inside charles and breaking him down for a late TKO.

If pushed i would side with charles at his very best to take a UD i think
PowerPuncher
03-26-2009, 01:23 PM
From what I've seen Charles is much better technically, faster, rangier, better defensively and possibly even as powerful.

Charles UD
My2Sense
03-26-2009, 04:15 PM
Think Charles vs. Marciano, only in Langford, Charles would be facing a guy with better skills than Marciano as well.

I would think Jimmy Bivins would be a better comparison to Langford than Marciano.
McGrain
03-26-2009, 06:04 PM
I would think Jimmy Bivins would be a better comparison to Langford than Marciano.


That's a very interesting thing to say, i like it.

But Langford proved himself much more versitile in my eyes.
djanders
03-26-2009, 07:54 PM
15 rounds, 3 judges, prime vs prime, Langford wins by unanimous decision...in my opinion.
Bummy Davis
03-26-2009, 10:42 PM
Charles by wide UD