View Full Version : Ajose Olusegun....badly promoted?
Lionel Rose
03-30-2009, 05:41 PM
Can't see any reason other than the fact Maloney's a lousy promoter / manager that Olusegun hasn't been offered a crack at a version of the world title yet.
At this stage of his career (with the exception of the recent Haywood bout) he's still being fed stiffs in six rounders.
No wonder he still couldn't fill a phone box, with the 'exposure' he's been given so far.
Given the opportunity, I reckon he'd give ANYONE a good argument.
Perhaps Frank just don't have the contacts or clout any more??
Smith
03-30-2009, 06:01 PM
He's far too overrated by Olu G/
robpalmer135
03-30-2009, 06:11 PM
Can't see any reason other than the fact Maloney's a lousy promoter / manager that Olusegun hasn't been offered a crack at a version of the world title yet.
At this stage of his career (with the exception of the recent Haywood bout) he's still being fed stiffs in six rounders.
No wonder he still couldn't fill a phone box, with the 'exposure' he's been given so far.
Given the opportunity, I reckon he'd give ANYONE a good argument.
Perhaps Frank just don't have the contacts or clout any more??
Maloney has go a guy with no fans and thats fought nobodys to number 3 with the WBC, if thats not good promoting what is?
dwilson
03-31-2009, 04:32 AM
Yep. Ajose has not fought one guy who was a top 5 rated domestic fighter in his division but has become a WBC ranked fighter. That is great promoting. Ajose needs to try and take risks instead of doing the easy thing all the time.
Lionel Rose
03-31-2009, 04:31 PM
I reckon if ****** was his boss he'd be in a better position to challenge for major honours.
If you're not with him or Hennessy nowadays, you might as well kiss your big paydays goodbye.
BigEars
03-31-2009, 10:13 PM
I reckon if ****** was his boss he'd be in a better position to challenge for major honours.
If you're not with him or Hennessy nowadays, you might as well kiss your big paydays goodbye.
if he was with ****** he'd be ranked by the WBO and no one else, he'd probably also fight less(see Choi Tsveenpurev) and be in a much worse position that he is now.
****** only cares about how much a fighter can sell(as most promoters do), talent doesn't enter the equation with him.
dwilson
04-01-2009, 03:33 AM
If he was with ****** even Olu would hate him.
Lee Mc
04-01-2009, 03:58 AM
Maloney has go a guy with no fans and thats fought nobodys to number 3 with the WBC, if thats not good promoting what is?
Excatly...
He is a good fighter but not as good as he thinks he is. He constantly calls out Hatton and Witter but both of these would take him apart.
I agree Lee.
I think the likes of Bradley and Holt would beat him let alone Hatton and Witter. He is so overhyped by his management team. If he is so good why is he still not fighting the top tier??? Probably because he brings nothing to the table.
Flea Man
04-01-2009, 06:04 AM
He's been promoted well enough to get a WBC ranking, seeing as he's European level at best.
Would last the distance with Bradley IMO, but would probably come up short. He hasn't even got the profile of a Carl Froch, don't know what could be done to rectify that. He has no charisma by the looks of things, but he's a decent fighter. Good fundementals and toughness.
I wouldn't say much for his "fundamentals". He rarely even bothers to throw a jab. Often he'll wade his way in with little lateral movement or head movement and throw all kinds of hooks. This appears impressive against a certain level of opponent, because his speed and awkward style gets him off the hook...but against the best he is going to come up way short IMO.
Also, he's been promoted extremely well considering nobody cares about him and he's been wasting his career over the last year or so fighting 6 rounders against cans. He's got a good ranking for that.
Lionel Rose
04-01-2009, 06:00 PM
Boxing success is, and always has been, governed as much by political issues as the individual's boxing ability.
I maintain that, with the right connections, Olusegun would have won a version of the world title by now.
Unfortunately, Maloney doesn't seem to be able to either market nor get meaningful fights for his charge.
A shame, as I reckon he's probably at his peak right now; 18 months down the line will probably be too late......
Olu G. Rotimi
04-02-2009, 01:35 AM
I agree Lee.
I think the likes of Bradley and Holt would beat him let alone Hatton and Witter. He is so overhyped by his management team. If he is so good why is he still not fighting the top tier??? Probably because he brings nothing to the table.
Godfather or Padrone
1st of all Bradley is a better fighter than Witter which is a fact and would beat Witter again if they fought. Not sure Hatton can beat Bradley either. Once you cut away the crap and hype Bradley is aserious operator so beating him is actually more impressive than beating Witter. I have studied Witter for many years and my opinion of him is not as high as yours. Witter is a contest we could and should have had by now but good luck to him for avoidance.
riggers
04-02-2009, 02:58 AM
Start talking about fights that can be made then Olu, rather than constantly blaming others for avoiding Ajose. Witter won't ( you say ) , Hatton is having 3 and out so he won't, after McCloskey who will Ajose be chasing ?
Godfather or Padrone
1st of all Bradley is a better fighter than Witter which is a fact and would beat Witter again if they fought. Not sure Hatton can beat Bradley either. Once you cut away the crap and hype Bradley is aserious operator so beating him is actually more impressive than beating Witter. I have studied Witter for many years and my opinion of him is not as high as yours. Witter is a contest we could and should have had by now but good luck to him for avoidance.
I didn't say that Witter was a better fighter than Bradley. Did I state I thought the world of Witter?? No.
I simply stated that the fighters listed would beat Ajose. Bradley, Witter, Hatton, Holt would all beat Ajose, simply as that. Thats my opinion. I dont rate Ajose and dont see him as a top level operator, again my opinion. Whatever you think of Witter he has fought at a much much higher level and is the former WBC champ, European, British title holder. Who has Ajose beaten? What title does he have??
I didn't say that Witter was a better fighter than Bradley. Did I state I thought the world of Witter?? No.
I simply stated that the fighters listed would beat Ajose. Bradley, Witter, Hatton, Holt would all beat Ajose, simply as that. Thats my opinion. I dont rate Ajose and dont see him as a top level operator, again my opinion. Whatever you think of Witter he has fought at a much much higher level and is the former WBC champ, European, British title holder. Who has Ajose beaten? What title does he have??
Bingo!! :good
Olusegun is not half as good as he's made out to be. A quality counterpuncher, a quality boxer period will take him to school.
pathmanc1986
04-02-2009, 06:09 AM
hopefully mccloskeys straight punches and counter-puncher style will be the medicine required!
Olu G. Rotimi
04-02-2009, 10:03 AM
I didn't say that Witter was a better fighter than Bradley. Did I state I thought the world of Witter?? No.
I simply stated that the fighters listed would beat Ajose. Bradley, Witter, Hatton, Holt would all beat Ajose, simply as that. Thats my opinion. I dont rate Ajose and dont see him as a top level operator, again my opinion. Whatever you think of Witter he has fought at a much much higher level and is the former WBC champ, European, British title holder. Who has Ajose beaten? What title does he have??
Godfather Ajose is the undefeated and undisputed Nigerian, African Boxing Union, British Empire Commonwealth(a belt Witter held and Ajose was his mandatory who he refused to fight) and WBF Intercontinental champion and soon to the British, European and WBC champion. I don't think much of fighters who avoid opponents. Sugar Ray Leonard and Ali might have preferred not to fight Hearns and Foreman and Benn may actually have not preferred to fight McClellan but they did and the won. Guys like Witter make mistakes. They thought Badley was nothing and got their arse kicked deservedly.
Olu G. Rotimi
04-02-2009, 10:07 AM
hopefully mccloskeys straight punches and counter-puncher style will be the medicine required!
Wishful thinking. Lets hope McCloskey shares your confidence.
Beeston Brawler
04-02-2009, 10:11 AM
:patsch
Not often I am lost for words.......
pathmanc1986
04-02-2009, 10:13 AM
wishful thinking indeed as I wish and think mccloskey will win
and yes, ajose, he should be mentioned in the same sentence as ali, sugar ray etc
D-MAC
04-02-2009, 10:23 AM
Godfather Ajose is the undefeated and undisputed Nigerian, African Boxing Union, British Empire Commonwealth(a belt Witter held and Ajose was his mandatory who he refused to fight) and WBF Intercontinental champion and soon to the British, European and WBC champion. I don't think much of fighters who avoid opponents. Sugar Ray Leonard and Ali might have preferred not to fight Hearns and Foreman and Benn may actually have not preferred to fight McClellan but they did and the won. Guys like Witter make mistakes. They thought Badley was nothing and got their arse kicked deservedly.
Jesus Wept:twisted:
Were to fucking start with this post.............
Olu G. Rotimi
04-02-2009, 10:58 AM
wishful thinking indeed as I wish and think mccloskey will win
and yes, ajose, he should be mentioned in the same sentence as ali, sugar ray etc
You would wish for such wouldn't you. Unfortunately your wish will not come true. The difference between us is that I only wish the fight actually gets made so that McCloskey can be given the Ajose 1st class experience.
Grant1
04-02-2009, 11:27 AM
You would wish for such wouldn't you. Unfortunately your wish will not come true. The difference between us is that I only wish the fight actually gets made so that McCloskey can be given the Ajose 1st class experience.
that'll come back to bite you on the arse :lol:
Godfather Ajose is the undefeated and undisputed Nigerian, African Boxing Union, British Empire Commonwealth(a belt Witter held and Ajose was his mandatory who he refused to fight) and WBF Intercontinental champion and soon to the British, European and WBC champion. I don't think much of fighters who avoid opponents. Sugar Ray Leonard and Ali might have preferred not to fight Hearns and Foreman and Benn may actually have not preferred to fight McClellan but they did and the won. Guys like Witter make mistakes. They thought Badley was nothing and got their arse kicked deservedly.
I must say you are a very loyal fan but your argument simply isnt backed up with much sense. Where are you going with this?? WBF Intercontinential title?? African Boxing Union?? Soon to be British, European and WBC champ?? Comon now mate lets be sensible. Ajose brings no weight to the table so there is no way he is gona get a shot at WBC title. He has missed the plane I'm afraid. Talk is very cheap. He does alot of it.
ryanm8655
04-02-2009, 11:33 AM
Godfather Ajose is the undefeated and undisputed Nigerian, African Boxing Union, British Empire Commonwealth(a belt Witter held and Ajose was his mandatory who he refused to fight) and WBF Intercontinental champion and soon to the British, European and WBC champion. I don't think much of fighters who avoid opponents. Sugar Ray Leonard and Ali might have preferred not to fight Hearns and Foreman and Benn may actually have not preferred to fight McClellan but they did and the won. Guys like Witter make mistakes. They thought Badley was nothing and got their arse kicked deservedly.
This post makes me think this is someone taking the piss lol...
Sounds liek flint when he talks about Enzo...
Lionel Rose
01-06-2010, 06:12 PM
What a shame.
AO now in his 30th year and still no sign of THE big fight he needs.
His career is surely going down the toilet, and it has to be the fault of that pint sized little oaf Maloney, unless anyone on here knows anything different?
Flea Man
01-06-2010, 06:23 PM
No it's just because he's complete average.
In this 140 division he has 0% chance of doing anything.
kosaros
01-06-2010, 06:29 PM
No it's just because he's complete average.
In this 140 division he has 0% chance of doing anything.
Plus the fact that he hasn't exactly got a fan base - if Olusegun was in any world title fight (even a European title fight - not that he could be, I don't think :yep) you know he would have to be the 'away' fighter; imagine Olusegun vs Urango in the UK - about 200 people would show up for it! Thats why, IMO, Maloney likes keeping him at domestic level - means he can match Olu with a UK fighter as the headline fight (with the UK fighter being the draw) or stick him on the undercard.
Still, I wish him all the best! :good
Maloney has go a guy with no fans and thats fought nobodys to number 3 with the WBC, if thats not good promoting what is?
:lol: And its so true.
Flea Man
01-06-2010, 06:43 PM
I wish the man all the best but suspect he's undefeated for the simple reason he's fought no one of real worth in 30-odd fights.
Still, nor had Kevin Mitchell but he has won me round. See, it won't take a Bradley or Khan for Ajose to make the leap up in my estimation. Arnaoutis, Witter, will go a long way to proving he's worth investing our interest in.
BoroBoxing1
01-06-2010, 06:53 PM
Devon Alexander the WBC champ ? I think the only way that Ajose Olusegan gets a shot at the title is if he gets a voluntary shot at it, even so i cannot see him beating anybody even near world class in the division, Think Junior Witter even beats him now.
Leighton T
01-06-2010, 08:09 PM
IMO Olusegun is a quality fighter he has beaten some good opposition but recently his opposition has subsided.... Maloney has got something to do with this!!! I do feel he has become avoided, his willingness to go to ROMANIA of alll places shows me he's ready to take risks. I think they should have targeted Urango for the IBF Strap as i feel he's the weakest belt holder!!! He does need to get a move on as he is not getting any younger but i do feel he can win a legit world title.
Right now he beats Witter, he should be trying to go after Kotelnik, Holt, or someone with a name!!!
BigEars
01-06-2010, 08:21 PM
IMO Olusegun is a quality fighter he has beaten some good opposition but recently his opposition has subsided.... Maloney has got something to do with this!!! I do feel he has become avoided, his willingness to go to ROMANIA of alll places shows me he's ready to take risks. I think they should have targeted Urango for the IBF Strap as i feel he's the weakest belt holder!!! He does need to get a move on as he is not getting any younger but i do feel he can win a legit world title.
Right now he beats Witter, he should be trying to go after Kotelnik, Holt, or someone with a name!!!
He was never ranked by the IBF, because with all due respect he had never beaten anyone(above domestic level). So going after Urango was never an option. The fact Maloney managed to get him to WBC #3 really is amazing and that he even should have been involved in a final(I think) eliminator even more so.
If he can't get a big fight very soon he should fight Lenny Daws and look for a shot against McCloskey after that.
Leighton T
01-06-2010, 08:27 PM
He was never ranked by the IBF, because with all due respect he had never beaten anyone(above domestic level). So going after Urango was never an option. The fact Maloney managed to get him to WBC #3 really is amazing and that he even should have been involved in a final(I think) eliminator even more so.
If he can't get a big fight very soon he should fight Lenny Daws and look for a shot against McCloskey after that.
I totally agree mate... I just feel they should have targeted Urango!! I do feel he's too good for Dawes but him an McCloskey would be a quality match up with the winner to get a world title shot.
Leighton T
01-06-2010, 08:28 PM
Is he still with Maloney or has he moved to Matchroom now??
BoroBoxing1
01-06-2010, 08:42 PM
last few fights have been promoted by matchroom, I think Urango would beat Olusegun, I dont think he is really past domestic level as a fighter.
Overrated fighter, he's not world class in a million years. He looks messy against anybody remotely talented (see Nigel Wright).
Mazallan
01-07-2010, 04:07 AM
When is the fight with the Romanian happening?
Lee Mc
01-07-2010, 04:58 AM
Some people seem to blame his promoter but I completely disagree.
He managed to get a fighter with no wins above good domestic level AND with no fanbase into a significant ranking with the WBC. The problem with Ajose has always been management and his inability to seperate hype with reality.
cubex
01-07-2010, 05:18 AM
When is the fight with the Romanian happening?
So far nothing is clear.
I hope it happens soon.
Leighton T
01-07-2010, 07:46 AM
I think he would box Urango's ears off!!!
Leighton T
01-07-2010, 07:47 AM
Alot of people on here don't rate Olusegun but im sure he's good enough to win a world title!!
Lee Mc
01-07-2010, 07:50 AM
Alot of people on here don't rate Olusegun but im sure he's good enough to win a world title!!
Even Audley Harrison won a 'World Title'...
His promotion and management team arent exactly cream of the crop so what do we expect? Pretty crap really. They mouth off but dont produce the goods. All talk no action.
He seems to be a tough bloke but lets face it he isnt a great boxer. Very aykward, thats about it.
achillesthegreat
01-07-2010, 08:40 AM
He should have been stepped up by now. Whoever is looking after him is doing something wrong.
BigEars
01-07-2010, 10:39 AM
Alot of people on here don't rate Olusegun but im sure he's good enough to win a world title!!
That's a lot of confidence to hold in a fighters who hasn't even fought at European level, nevermind fringe World level. To be sure he could step up to World level without going through those phases means you obviously have huge admiration for him.
My opinion is more like others on this thread. He's good, and very tricky but I don't think he'll cut it at the top and he'll probably never get the chance because his team go around acting like everyone is avoiding him instead of getting down to business and getting fights with fighters just below World level.
Leighton T
01-07-2010, 10:56 AM
That's a lot of confidence to hold in a fighters who hasn't even fought at European level, nevermind fringe World level. To be sure he could step up to World level without going through those phases means you obviously have huge admiration for him.
My opinion is more like others on this thread. He's good, and very tricky but I don't think he'll cut it at the top and he'll probably never get the chance because his team go around acting like everyone is avoiding him instead of getting down to business and getting fights with fighters just below World level.
I do agree with alot of the things your saying mate... He is yet to prove it against world level opposition but i do feel he has got something!!! He really does need to get a move on!!! The only thing is to win a title he'll have to travel!!!
Flea Man
01-07-2010, 12:19 PM
Another Olu-type nuthugger :lol:
Top Dog
01-07-2010, 12:42 PM
that'll come back to bite you on the arse :lol:
I actually think Ajose would handle McCloskey fairly easily, if anyone is a bit over-rated its him, dont get me wrong he is good but think he loses this one
Lionel Rose
01-07-2010, 03:06 PM
A few people on here are saying some rather disparaging things about Olusegun.
Why has he got no fanbase? Isn't that what his promoter / manager is supposed to create in the media?
Like I've said before, Maloney's 'skills' in management are minimal - just check out his appalling whole page 'adverts' in Boxing News every week. Half the time he spells his own boxers' names wrong, the fucking idiot.
Olusegun needs to extricate himself from his contract PDQ, and get his butt over to Hennessy / ****** or Hearn.
Otherwise he'll find himself still fighting for Southern Area titles when he's 40.
It's an absolute disgrace.
He's got no fanbase because he's not very likeable.
Beeston Brawler
01-07-2010, 03:13 PM
If he signs with Hennessy he might win the world title but no fucker will get to see it :rofl
Lionel Rose
01-07-2010, 03:19 PM
He's got no fanbase because he's not very likeable.
Naseem Hamed wasn't likeable.
Didn't stop the little twat becoming known worldwide, and retiring a multi millionaire, did it?!
Another one of the 'too high risk, too little to gain' fighters im afraid but the guy is talented & a former olympian with Samuel Peter back in the day. There are so many far worse fighters that have had far better opportunities than him. Best Olusegun can do is to keep training hard, every fighter with an '0' gets a shot against somebody decent with something to bring to the table one day.
Why has no big name wanted to fight him if he aint a good boxer, easy undefeated fighters are always good for the cv. Especially ones like Witter that need it build up again....
kosaros
01-07-2010, 04:45 PM
Naseem Hamed wasn't likeable.
Didn't stop the little twat becoming known worldwide, and retiring a multi millionaire, did it?!
Olusegun is an African fighter in the UK, he doesn't speak much, hasn't got an exciting style = not exactly a great fighter to promote is it?
And you wonder why he hasn't got the popularity of Naseem Hamed???
Naseem Hamed wasn't likeable.
Didn't stop the little twat becoming known worldwide, and retiring a multi millionaire, did it?!
Naseem Hamed was an entertaining twat. In boxing you've either gotta be a good good guy or a good bad guy to make it as a worldwide star.
Olusegun is a boring personality in interviews, but the biggest problem is he hasn't fought anybody to get us excited.
Lionel Rose
01-07-2010, 05:12 PM
Naseem Hamed was an entertaining twat. In boxing you've either gotta be a good good guy or a good bad guy to make it as a worldwide star.
Olusegun is a boring personality in interviews, but the biggest problem is he hasn't fought anybody to get us excited.
Boxers are rarely scintillating conversationalists.
Calzaghe / Froch both dull as dishwater.
Joe's fights were also frequently drab affairs, (as was froch's latest contest,)but at least ****** got him decent exposure, resulting in big paydays and, later on, pointless wins against over the hill superstars.(mega paydays.)
Olusegun hasn't fought any marquee fighters for sure, but that brings me back to the whole point of this thread - what is the point of getting your man #3 WBC ranking if you can't make the fight for the Title happen?
He might as well be ranked #300 in the world for all the good it's done him, FFS!
He's #3 for the title not a mandatory...isn't that pretty much self-explanatory as to why he wouldn't have got a title shot? If he was a good name that brought money to the table of course he'd be more likely to get one, but he isn't, therefore he needs to force it.
I think the winner of him and the Romanian was supposed to be an eliminator but it fell through.
Fuck me if Olusegun's #3 in the world and his best win is Nigel Wright his promoter ain't all that awful...they've been taking him down a route that has obviously got him credit from the WBC somehow. Eventually he'll get his shot if he doesn't lose. This is how it is in boxing, if you've got something to offer you get opportunities others don't, if you havn't you have to do it the hard way.
kosaros
01-07-2010, 05:25 PM
Boxers are rarely scintillating conversationalists.
Calzaghe / Froch both dull as dishwater.
Joe's fights were also frequently drab affairs, (as was froch's latest contest,)but at least ****** got him decent exposure, resulting in big paydays and, later on, pointless wins against over the hill superstars.(mega paydays.)
Olusegun hasn't fought any marquee fighters for sure, but that brings me back to the whole point of this thread - what is the point of getting your man #3 WBC ranking if you can't make the fight for the Title happen?
He might as well be ranked #300 in the world for all the good it's done him, FFS!
Calzaghe was a highly rated amateur, so there was already a buzz about him from the start - he also had that arrogance about him which made him get in the press. Plus the fact he is a BRITISH fighter.
BoroBoxing1
01-07-2010, 05:27 PM
If he was ****** he would of been sparked for the WBO title by now and nobody would be having this conversation.
Lionel Rose
01-07-2010, 05:27 PM
He's #3 for the title not a mandatory...isn't that pretty much self-explanatory as to why he wouldn't have got a title shot? If he was a good name that brought money to the table of course he'd be more likely to get one, but he isn't, therefore he needs to force it.
I think the winner of him and the Romanian was supposed to be an eliminator but it fell through.
Fuck me if Olusegun's #3 in the world and his best win is Nigel Wright his promoter ain't all that awful...they've been taking him down a route that has obviously got him credit from the WBC somehow. Eventually he'll get his shot if he doesn't lose. This is how it is in boxing, if you've got something to offer you get opportunities others don't, if you havn't you have to do it the hard way.
Eventually he WILL lose.
It's the law of averages.
And how hard must it be to be 'up' for a fight against someone like Wright - a decent enough domestic level fighter, who you've already comfortably done a number on already?!
Olusegun - promoted by someone who knows what he's doing - would have a decent enough following in this country to sell out a fair sized venue, but, as you point out, due to Maloney's ineptitude, wouldn't fill his own living room at the moment.
Proof that Maloney is one lousy, two bob promoter.
Froch was a terrible example regardless because its well known Froch wasn't getting many opportunities. Froch was in the exact same position, a fight with Denis Inkin fell through that was an eliminator. He had to force his fight with Jermain Taylor because he was not that interested in fighting Froch because at that level Froch wasn't huge money or fanfare.
Froch is obviously way more popular than Olusegun though, as Hennessy has good relationship with ITV they got Pascal on there which raised his profile, and Froch can sell out arenas in his hometown because he's obviously well known in the community by attending football matches and stuff.
Does anybody in Canning Town know Olusegun? What does he do to raise his profile...I'll wait.
kosaros
01-07-2010, 05:32 PM
Eventually he WILL lose.
It's the law of averages.
And how hard must it be to be 'up' for a fight against someone like Wright - a decent enough domestic level fighter, who you've already comfortably done a number on already?!
Olusegun - promoted by someone who knows what he's doing - would have a decent enough following in this country to sell out a fair sized venue, but, as you point out, due to Maloney's ineptitude, wouldn't fill his own living room at the moment.
Proof that Maloney is one lousy, two bob promoter.
So your thread is basically an attack on Maloney...even though pretty much everyone disagrees with you, yet you don't even accept what has been said.
Lionel Rose
01-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Froch was a terrible example regardless because its well known Froch wasn't getting many opportunities. Froch was in the exact same position, a fight with Denis Inkin fell through that was an eliminator. He had to force his fight with Jermain Taylor because he was not that interested in fighting Froch because at that level Froch wasn't huge money or fanfare.
Froch is obviously way more popular than Olusegun though, as Hennessy has good relationship with ITV they got Pascal on there which raised his profile, and Froch can sell out arenas in his hometown because he's obviously well known in the community by attending football matches and stuff.
Does anybody in Canning Town know Olusegun? What does he do to raise his profile...I'll wait.
No. No one knows AO.
And that's Maloney's fault, for the umpteenth time.
Froch has said in interviews he has no interest in football at all.
But his people make sure he's 'seen' in these places to build up his profile.
Therein lies the subtle difference.
If Maloney was doing his job properly, he'd have AO walking on the pitch at, say, Upton Park at half time, wearing a Hammers' scarf, swearing lifelong allegiance to his 'beloved Irons,' with some strap or other wrapped around his waist.
It's called promoting your charge. It ain't rocket science.
No. No one knows AO.
And that's Maloney's fault, for the umpteenth time.
Froch has said in interviews he has no interest in football at all.
But his people make sure he's 'seen' in these places to build up his profile.
Therein lies the subtle difference.
If Maloney was doing his job properly, he'd have AO walking on the pitch at, say, Upton Park at half time, wearing a Hammers' scarf, swearing lifelong allegiance to his 'beloved Irons,' with some strap or other wrapped around his waist.
It's called promoting your charge. It ain't rocket science.
That's a two way thing. There is a reason not everybody with a bit of talent is a worldwide superstar. I'm sure Maloney would love it if he had a money making machine on his hands.
Olusegun's fights do not pull up trees, his personality in interviews is arrogant but lacking charm and entertainment with it, he's Nigerian in Britain which is never going to help because you only have to look at this board to realize how nationality inclined boxing fans are. And why on earth would West Ham want some Nigerian geezer nobody in the area has ever heard of wandering over their pitch? As far as they're concerned he's doing nothing but ruining the turf.
There are a lot of reasons he's a dead duck to promote and to me Maloney has done the only thing he could which is make sure he promotes him well in a boxing sense which he has done by getting him to #3 with the WBC.
PaddyD1983
01-08-2010, 04:50 AM
AO is currently where he should be in my opinion and I cant really see him going any higher. He's not great to watch. He's limited. His level of opposition has been, at best, average for the last few years.
Sitting through him against Nigel Wright six months ago was one of the most ardious main events I've witnessed.
Lionel Rose
01-08-2010, 05:51 PM
AO is currently where he should be in my opinion and I cant really see him going any higher. He's not great to watch. He's limited. His level of opposition has been, at best, average for the last few years.
Sitting through him against Nigel Wright six months ago was one of the most ardious main events I've witnessed.
FFS!
What don't you understand?!
AO had seen off Wright once before - he was going over old ground.
Of course he looked bad (in winning!)
It'd be like asking Ricky Hatton to fight Urango again - a pointless, futile exercise which would get him nothing but bruised ribs and a black eye.
His level of opposition should have been stepped up a long time ago.
Maloney has been remiss in his duty to get him bigger, better fights.
kosaros
01-08-2010, 05:53 PM
FFS!
What don't you understand?!
AO had seen off Wright once before - he was going over old ground.
Of course he looked bad (in winning!)
It'd be like asking Ricky Hatton to fight Urango again - a pointless, futile exercise which would get him nothing but bruised ribs and a black eye.
His level of opposition should have been stepped up a long time ago.
Maloney has been remiss in his duty to get him bigger, better fights.
He looked better in the 2nd fight than the 1st against Wright though...
Lionel Rose
01-08-2010, 06:07 PM
He looked better in the 2nd fight than the 1st against Wright though...
Embarrassingly, I can't honestly call that one as I didn't see the first bout!
However, surely you must agree that AO must've felt his career was stalling, being dragged into fighting NW a second time?
He had absolutely nothing to gain, and everything to lose!
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