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younghypnotiq
08-24-2007, 01:19 AM
ill start who are good boxers to watch for the regular gaurd in orthodox and in the southpaw stance. also who are the best to watch for footwork. and who for the jab weather its stiff or speed
Sizzle
08-24-2007, 02:36 AM
I would say Winky Wright or Juan Diaz for a solid fundamental "amateur" boxing style, gloves held high with simple but effective punching and combinations.
For footwork I would personally say Bernard Hopkins - His balance and poise on the inside, and outside, is amazing.
Mayweather obviously has very good footwork, but his may be a little more difficult to "emulate"
As for a jab, I like Winky personally, although you should work on throwing all types of jabs, fast, stiff, pawing, etc etc and use them when neccessary.
For a good orthodox jab, how can you look past Klitschko? He can control a fight with his movement and jab, even though he's a horrendously rigid fighter.
Sizzle
08-24-2007, 02:41 AM
Lets throw Mikkel Kessler in there aswell.
Very good fundamentally with an excellent "patient aggressive" frontfoot style of boxing.
achillesthegreat
08-24-2007, 03:02 AM
I think sizzle has done a good job.
Floyd and X have more or less the same footwork but Floyd gives it that youthful touch as he has more speed, agility and is generally just nimble.
aramini
08-24-2007, 03:06 AM
If you have decent power and a good chin I've always liked Barrera's fundamental style: work off the jab with left hooks to the body or straight rights to the head while circling and keeping a tight defense, especially later in his career. Watch how orthodox he looks against Hamed.
Or you could go with the even more technical Juan Manuel Marquez.
Don't watch Pacquiao or Mayorga unless you have brutish strength and good speed for your weight - unless you are beastly that amatuerish onslaught can be disarmed.
Ray Leonard is practically useless to learn from, as is Roy Jones, while they are fun to watch: go in there and be four times as fast as your opponent. Pure boxers like Spinks or Malignaggi are sometimes good to watch for both footwork and overall fighting strategy- they can't punch so they must be doing something else right to defeat stronger, more "dangerous" punchers.
Vantage_West
08-24-2007, 05:41 AM
joel casamayor...simple as
achillesthegreat
08-24-2007, 06:03 AM
If you have decent power and a good chin I've always liked Barrera's fundamental style: work off the jab with left hooks to the body or straight rights to the head while circling and keeping a tight defense, especially later in his career. Watch how orthodox he looks against Hamed.
Or you could go with the even more technical Juan Manuel Marquez.
Don't watch Pacquiao or Mayorga unless you have brutish strength and good speed for your weight - unless you are beastly that amatuerish onslaught can be disarmed.
Ray Leonard is practically useless to learn from, as is Roy Jones, while they are fun to watch: go in there and be four times as fast as your opponent. Pure boxers like Spinks or Malignaggi are sometimes good to watch for both footwork and overall fighting strategy- they can't punch so they must be doing something else right to defeat stronger, more "dangerous" punchers.
You can use the speed argument with Jones but not Leonard. Leonards big wins were against guys who have good to great speed - Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Hagler.
BITCH ASS
08-24-2007, 03:17 PM
Marquez, Vasquez, MAB, Ike Quartey.....
Marquez brothers are amazing.
younghypnotiq
09-04-2007, 05:32 PM
who are good to watch for the classic gaurd but in the southpawnstance?
younghypnotiq
09-04-2007, 05:47 PM
and anyone else for footwork?
MagnificentMatt
09-04-2007, 06:15 PM
I really dont study anyone, i watch boxing but i dont try to emulate styles unless i jsut wanan see how it works, (i've tried to pull a Frazier, and Toney before, both worked decent but not as good as the norm of course), mainly because im a slick southpaw and my style isnt really like a lot of people, and i dont try to do things im not comfortable with unless im forced..I love to fight inside and use my headmovement, but i also like to bounce and go from the outside.
younghypnotiq
09-07-2007, 10:25 PM
any1 for the jab? and any1 for the straight right?
MagnificentMatt
09-07-2007, 11:00 PM
any1 for the jab? and any1 for the straight right?
Jab = Holmes or Winky
Cross = Pretty much anyone Manny Stewart has trained :-)
younghypnotiq
09-07-2007, 11:15 PM
thanks.
gregsid
09-08-2007, 03:10 AM
I would say Winky Wright or Juan Diaz for a solid fundamental "amateur" boxing style, gloves held high with simple but effective punching and combinations.
For footwork I would personally say Bernard Hopkins - His balance and poise on the inside, and outside, is amazing.
Mayweather obviously has very good footwork, but his may be a little more difficult to "emulate"
As for a jab, I like Winky personally, although you should work on throwing all types of jabs, fast, stiff, pawing, etc etc and use them when neccessary.
For a good orthodox jab, how can you look past Klitschko? He can control a fight with his movement and jab, even though he's a horrendously rigid fighter.
I agree with this, on the most part.
Two Fisted Piston
09-08-2007, 08:29 AM
Jab: Barrera( although he tends to lift his right elbow when throwing it):-(
Right: B-Hop, Morales
Left Hook: Rocky Jaurez
Footwork: B-Hop, PBF
younghypnotiq
09-08-2007, 10:07 PM
sorry to be annoying but any1 good to wtch for the slip?
MagnificentMatt
09-08-2007, 10:30 PM
sorry to be annoying but any1 good to wtch for the slip?
Tyson, Whitaker, Toney is good for the roll.
Tyson is more of a squared off stance, side to side slips, whitaker is more angled off with up and down slips which is the way i slip.
younghypnotiq
09-08-2007, 10:36 PM
me 2. tahnks.
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