Junior Witter v Paul McCloskey

[jj01709]

heard that branco has given up his ebu jr welterweight title as stepping up to welterweight, and that witter and mccloskey will be battling it out for the title

ill take mccloskey to win:bbb

[ah,sure]

heard that branco has given up his ebu jr welterweight title as stepping up to welterweight, and that witter and mccloskey will be battling it out for the title

ill take mccloskey to win:bbb

Where did you hear this... any link?

Could be a great scrap alright

[achillesthegreat]

Good scrap. Ajose is fucked. Mind you, he could win Brit title v an easier opponent.

[Flea Man]

It should be Ajose Olusogen (spelling?) vs McCloskey....Witter should be fighting top-rated fighters and trying to get another World title shot.

I'd really have high hopes for McCloskey, but he's quite old to be named an 'exciting prospect'. Then again, so was Nate Campbell and look what he's done.


Urango is moving up to Welterweight, Campbell vs. Witter for the vacant IBF belt (or Witter vs. Paulie) would be ideal, sad thing is, no one wants to fight Witter, as when they win they look bad, and when they lose they get KTFO!

[robpalmer135]

Witter vs McCloskey is an awful clash of styles. Witter has way to much for him at the moment.

[pathmanc1986]

source???????



if quiet brian peters and fat mick get their heads together the fight will be a sell out in the odyssey in belfast with a good tv audience... bigger stadium that prob fill in ingerland and with the amount of flights over to belfast cheaper than the train to london anyone from cross the pond can go over for a jolly up weekend.belfast is a sweet fight town


as for the fight itself, not sure i could pick a winner at this stage :think

[dwilson]

Not sure I fancy going to Belfast with how the locals are acting up over there.

[LHL]

Not sure I fancy going to Belfast with how the locals are acting up over there.

Yep not looking good over here but its not got out of hand yet. Just a few idiots with guns and bombs running around :verysad.

[jj01709]

in the know

[BUGS]

what a clash ....but can see witter sparking out mcloskey.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Why fight Witter yesterday's man when he can Ajose Olusegun for the combined, European, Commonwealth and British title.

[Grant1]

Why fight Witter yesterday's man when he can Ajose Olusegun for the combined, European, Commonwealth and British title.

Because a win over Witter would mean more to everybody on the planet, apart from you.

[BigEars]

Why fight Witter yesterday's man when he can Ajose Olusegun for the combined, European, Commonwealth and British title.

Because fighting Olusegun wouldn't be for the European title and the European title means a lot more than the British and Commonwealth titles.

Olusegun is only ranked #8 in Europe and if Witter wasn't to fight McCloskey then presumely European #2 Souleymane M'Baye would.

Also Witter is ranked #2 by the WBC and a former champion who has proven himself at World level, Olusegun has never fought above domestic level so a win over him wouldn't prove nearly as much.

Not sure how a McCloskey v Witter fight would go, but you can bet it'd be ugly.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

McCloskey may be able to beat Witter and I would support him but he will never be able to beat Ajose Olusegun.

[Grant1]

Why fight Witter yesterday's man when he can Ajose Olusegun for the combined, European, Commonwealth and British title.

you are so hypocritical it fucking unreal.

for months you've been going on about your boy fighting Witter.

now cos McCloskey may beat you to it Witter is suddenly 'yesterdays man'.

you sir are a fucking tool.

[achillesthegreat]

It should be Ajose Olusogen (spelling?) vs McCloskey....Witter should be fighting top-rated fighters and trying to get another World title shot.

I'd really have high hopes for McCloskey, but he's quite old to be named an 'exciting prospect'. Then again, so was Nate Campbell and look what he's done.


Urango is moving up to Welterweight, Campbell vs. Witter for the vacant IBF belt (or Witter vs. Paulie) would be ideal, sad thing is, no one wants to fight Witter, as when they win they look bad, and when they lose they get KTFO!

Campbell v Witter sounds decent.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

you are so hypocritical it fucking unreal.

for months you've been going on about your boy fighting Witter.

now cos McCloskey may beat you to it Witter is suddenly 'yesterdays man'.

you sir are a fucking tool.

You are disingenious prat. If you have read my posts you will know that my opinion of Junior Witter is not high at all and have been consistent in this view. I have called him yesterday's man for a long time now. Witter is an obstacle the WBC have asked us to negotiate not a great one actually for a fighter of Ajose' s capability. My assessment of Witter is that he has seen better days period. I don't know how good McCloskey will be though I have been very impressed by what I have seen to date including him getting rid of that imposter Lynes. For that alone we should all be grateful to McCloskey. This post is about Witter versus Paul McCloskey, do you expect me to lie and say I think Witter will win when I firmly believe McCloskey can take him. I was impressed more by McCloskey's performance against Lynes than Witter's victory over Lynes. I call it like I see it.

I would rather not call you names though my feelings about you are not particularly high if you are who I think you are. Lets just leave it at that.

[D-MAC]

You are disingenious prat. If you have read my posts you will know that my opinion of Junior Witter is not high at all and have been consistent in this view. I have called him yesterday's man for a long time now. Witter is an obstacle the WBC have asked us to negotiate not a great one actually for a fighter of Ajose' s capability. My assessment of Witter is that he has seen better days period. I don't know how good McCloskey will be though I have been very impressed by what I have seen to date including him getting rid of that imposter Lynes. For that alone we should all be grateful to McCloskey. This post is about Witter versus Paul McCloskey, do you expect me to lie and say I think Witter will win when I firmly believe McCloskey can take him. I was impressed more by McCloskey's performance against Lynes than Witter's victory over Lynes. I call it like I see it.

I would rather not call you names though my feelings about you are not particularly high if you are who I think you are. Lets just leave it at that.

Interesting:think

You can't just drop that one in there without spilling the beans. Who do you think he is?

[Grant1]

You are disingenious prat. If you have read my posts you will know that my opinion of Junior Witter is not high at all and have been consistent in this view. I have called him yesterday's man for a long time now. Witter is an obstacle the WBC have asked us to negotiate not a great one actually for a fighter of Ajose' s capability. My assessment of Witter is that he has seen better days period. I don't know how good McCloskey will be though I have been very impressed by what I have seen to date including him getting rid of that imposter Lynes. For that alone we should all be grateful to McCloskey. This post is about Witter versus Paul McCloskey, do you expect me to lie and say I think Witter will win when I firmly believe McCloskey can take him. I was impressed more by McCloskey's performance against Lynes than Witter's victory over Lynes. I call it like I see it.

I would rather not call you names though my feelings about you are not particularly high if you are who I think you are. Lets just leave it at that.

So I assume that should you beat Witter you dont think that it'll improve Ajose's resume?

And I don't know who you think I am, but I can guarantee your wrong.

Still be funny to know though........

[Lee Mc]

Why fight Witter yesterday's man when he can Ajose Olusegun for the combined, European, Commonwealth and British title.

Simple really, Witter is a name on the CV that will impress a lot of people whilst Ajose's won't. Which fight do I want to see? Easy, your guy vs McCloskey but Ajose is part of the "Who needs him" cliched group and doesn't bring much, apart from the Commonwealth Title, to the table. A victory for Ajose over McCloskey would do more for his career than if the opposite happend.

[Boxing Fanatic]

MCCloskey all the way!

["TKO"]

You are disingenious prat. If you have read my posts you will know that my opinion of Junior Witter is not high at all and have been consistent in this view. I have called him yesterday's man for a long time now. Witter is an obstacle the WBC have asked us to negotiate not a great one actually for a fighter of Ajose' s capability. My assessment of Witter is that he has seen better days period. I don't know how good McCloskey will be though I have been very impressed by what I have seen to date including him getting rid of that imposter Lynes. For that alone we should all be grateful to McCloskey. This post is about Witter versus Paul McCloskey, do you expect me to lie and say I think Witter will win when I firmly believe McCloskey can take him. I was impressed more by McCloskey's performance against Lynes than Witter's victory over Lynes. I call it like I see it.

I would rather not call you names though my feelings about you are not particularly high if you are who I think you are. Lets just leave it at that.

I don't particularly love Witter either, but I think calling him yesterday's man is a bit hasty. I think against Bradley, he came up against an underrated young fighter who was also a stylistic nightmare for him (come forward, keep the pressure on to force Witter to fight at a pace he wasn't comfortable with, throw the right hand as Witter moved back), just as, in Harris, he came up against a guy who was made to make him look good. Witter has always been inconsistent at world level, however, he is still a top -10 fighter and would be easily the best fighter Ajose has ever fought.

I would like to see him and Ajose, young up and comer versus veteran looking to get back to the top. The winner could lay legit claim to deserving a title shot (more so than Devon Alexander anyway). However, someone needs to take the responsibility of making it happen.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

So I assume that should you beat Witter you dont think that it'll improve Ajose's resume?

And I don't know who you think I am, but I can guarantee your wrong.

Still be funny to know though........

No I don't think Witter is anything great but we are prepared to take him out to get a title shot. Personally I think it would have been a tougher fight years ago when we should have fought but they refused. In the period Ajose has gotten better and Witter has gotten worse. The problem with boxing is that people don't pay attention to detail. I will give you a tip which is some people think Hatton's performance against Malignaggi was great and that Hatton under Floyd Mayweather Senior is getting better etc. He is not and Malignaggi has actually been slipping as shown by his 2nd fight with Ndou. Pacman is improving and I know Hatton is saying 3 more fights and out but it may be that after the 2nd May he has to call it quits.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I don't particularly love Witter either, but I think calling him yesterday's man is a bit hasty. I think against Bradley, he came up against an underrated young fighter who was also a stylistic nightmare for him (come forward, keep the pressure on to force Witter to fight at a pace he wasn't comfortable with, throw the right hand as Witter moved back), just as, in Harris, he came up against a guy who was made to make him look good. Witter has always been inconsistent at world level, however, he is still a top -10 fighter and would be easily the best fighter Ajose has ever fought.

I would like to see him and Ajose, young up and comer versus veteran looking to get back to the top. The winner could lay legit claim to deserving a title shot (more so than Devon Alexander anyway). However, someone needs to take the responsibility of making it happen.

If a fight with Witter nevber happens the only person to blame is Witter. I have even questioned his manhood(things quite franly I would rather not have to do) to provoke the contest all to no avail. The man has no shame yet he has the audacity to say Hatton has been ducking him for years, silly chap. I think the truth is more that Hatton does not want to give him any sort of pay day whatsoever.

[fenian 67]

olu why dont you actualy spend some time trying to get ajose a fight instead of typing essays on here?

[Olu G. Rotimi]

olu why dont you actualy spend some time trying to get ajose a fight instead of typing essays on here?

Thanks for the advice. What makes you think I don't. We just had a contest in February 2009 and are looking forward to the next bout be it McCloskey, the lad from Bradford, Devon Alexander or whoever.

[fenian 67]

let me rephrase that.try get ajose a fight that matters.witter and mccloskey are fighting each other so just forget about them.if ajoses as good as you say take him to the states and fight alexander or malinaggi

["TKO"]

If a fight with Witter nevber happens the only person to blame is Witter. I have even questioned his manhood(things quite franly I would rather not have to do) to provoke the contest all to no avail. The man has no shame yet he has the audacity to say Hatton has been ducking him for years, silly chap. I think the truth is more that Hatton does not want to give him any sort of pay day whatsoever.

Well quite obviously to anyone with any sense. Witter has never been willing to go out of his own way to make the required opportunities for himself. I would have thought him and Ajose would be easy to make and Witter would be up for it, a chance to secure himself a mandatory title shot. Oh well, if not McCloskey would be a good chance for your guy. As for Witter, he ain't getting any younger.

[BigEars]

If a fight with Witter nevber happens the only person to blame is Witter. I have even questioned his manhood(things quite franly I would rather not have to do) to provoke the contest all to no avail. The man has no shame yet he has the audacity to say Hatton has been ducking him for years, silly chap. I think the truth is more that Hatton does not want to give him any sort of pay day whatsoever.


What about Olusegun v Pavlik ?, is it a possibility and surely Ajose would take the technically deficient Pavlik to school .

[yesihavearm2]

Thanks for the advice. What makes you think I don't. We just had a contest in February 2009 and are looking forward to the next bout be it McCloskey, the lad from Bradford, Devon Alexander or whoever.


Stop mentioning names like McCloskey and Devon Alexander like those fights would ever happen !!

He's going to be fighting a bum isnt he, and again for a next few fights ? So leave out naming top contenders like Devon because we know thats not true.

[Flea Man]

McCloskey may be able to beat Witter and I would support him but he will never be able to beat Ajose Olusegun.

:lol:

Are you friends with Olusegun or something?

I agree with you that Olusegun would beat McCloskey, but I bet you think he'd beat Witter. And Witter would batter Olusegun would come in hooking and Witter would throw his sharp, accurate straight shots and spark him out.

I think that's what will happen with Witter-McCloskey to be honest.

[Flea Man]

Ajose just fights stupid six-rounders anyways....when is he gonna' step up?????

Don't say he's being ducked because there's nothing about him that makes him a fighter that people would want to avoid.

I like Olusegun, he's a talented guy, tough, and has good power (first man to spark Bradley Pryce) when he wants too, can box a bit, but come on-He's undefeated with a top-ten ranking, why is he fighting stiffs when the 140lb division is so open with so many contenders/former champions knocking around?

You don't need to fight the no.1 man at the moment, so fight 2-10. Anyone from Ricardo Torres to Juan Urango, Lamonst Peterson to Malignaggi would be worth your time.

Honestly though, stay away from Urango!

[Grant1]

No I don't think Witter is anything great but we are prepared to take him out to get a title shot. Personally I think it would have been a tougher fight years ago when we should have fought but they refused. In the period Ajose has gotten better and Witter has gotten worse. The problem with boxing is that people don't pay attention to detail. I will give you a tip which is some people think Hatton's performance against Malignaggi was great and that Hatton under Floyd Mayweather Senior is getting better etc. He is not and Malignaggi has actually been slipping as shown by his 2nd fight with Ndou. Pacman is improving and I know Hatton is saying 3 more fights and out but it may be that after the 2nd May he has to call it quits.

So as asked in the other thread (before you said PM was slipping by the way) why don't you see if you can get Ajose the shot against Paulie in Paulie's first fight back?

Your obviously struggling for recognition so take a cut purse and get him in there.

I'm sure you can get what you want on the back of a win?

["TKO"]

:lol:

Are you friends with Olusegun or something?



Where have you been for the past two years?

[Grievesy]

I'd fancy Witter to beat McCloskey and Olusegun.

And Olusegun needs to start stepping it up before he evens thinks of fighting Witter or any international world class LWW. Why on earth is he fighting 6 rounders at this stage in his career anyway?

[LHL]

Where have you been for the past two years?

:rofl

I think Witter would beat Ajose and mccloskey easily.

[doylexxx]

Yep not looking good over here but its not got out of hand yet. Just a few idiots with guns and bombs running around :verysad.

what can u do in the middle of a war :nut:nut:nut:lol:

theres nothing to worry about FFS Im going form dublin to see rogan always a good laugh down there

[pathmanc1986]

no one from britain should feel any problem coming to belfast and I know for a fact Martin

Rogan/mccloskey thinks the same way so anyone who wants to cause trouble can go and

fuck, and the flip side the reaction rogan got from the crowd at the darts was a disgrace

and the same goes for them

[irishhitman]

no one from britain should feel any problem coming to belfast and I know for a fact Martin

Rogan/mccloskey thinks the same way so anyone who wants to cause trouble can go and

fuck, and the flip side the reaction rogan got from the crowd at the darts was a disgrace

and the same goes for them

when was that ....what happened to rogie at the darts

["TKO"]

:rofl

I think Witter would beat Ajose and mccloskey easily.

You're missing the point. What I meant was yes, Olu is close friends with Ajose Olusegun and anyone who's been around here for a while knows it well! ;);)

[D-MAC]

You're missing the point. What I meant was yes, Olu is close friends with Ajose Olusegun and anyone who's been around here for a while knows it well! ;);)

Only too fucking well.

Olu has me convinced that Ajose is the reincarnation of Ray Robinson................................................only better.

[LHL]

You're missing the point. What I meant was yes, Olu is close friends with Ajose Olusegun and anyone who's been around here for a while knows it well! ;);)

Thats what the :rofl was for

The other part was my opinion on the fight :yep:smooch

["TKO"]

Thats what the :rofl was for

The other part was my opinion on the fight :yep:smooch

Fair enough maybee it's me misssing the point. What can I say it's late and I'm pissed and trying to stay awake for Bradley-Holt!

[LHL]

Fair enough maybee it's me misssing the point. What can I say it's late and I'm pissed and trying to stay awake for Bradley-Holt!

:good at least one of us is having a good night :lol:

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Ajose just fights stupid six-rounders anyways....when is he gonna' step up?????

Don't say he's being ducked because there's nothing about him that makes him a fighter that people would want to avoid.

I like Olusegun, he's a talented guy, tough, and has good power (first man to spark Bradley Pryce) when he wants too, can box a bit, but come on-He's undefeated with a top-ten ranking, why is he fighting stiffs when the 140lb division is so open with so many contenders/former champions knocking around?

You don't need to fight the no.1 man at the moment, so fight 2-10. Anyone from Ricardo Torres to Juan Urango, Lamonst Peterson to Malignaggi would be worth your time.

Honestly though, stay away from Urango!

Yeah right Urango that great fighter who is so slow he telegraphs everything. Did it ever occur to you that the reason Promoter Frank Maloney put him into some 6 rounders was to keep him busy when fights with contenders and the other guys in the UK could not be made. Say whatever you will about Nigel Wright, Gary Reid, Ali Nuumbembee and Scott Haywood but they had the guts to step up to the plate particularly Reid who fought his heart out on the night taking excessive punishment. I have no doubt whatsoever that Ajose can take anybody in the world at 140 pounds. If Witter was confident that he could eliminate Ajose do you not think the fight would have been made by now.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

What about Olusegun v Pavlik ?, is it a possibility and surely Ajose would take the technically deficient Pavlik to school .

Pavlik is not technically deficient at all. Just because his lost to Hopkins. Anyway I am not aware that Pavlik can make 140-147 pounds.

[D-MAC]

:dead:dead:dead

Kill me! Kill me now!

I can't take the Olu bullshit any longer.

[Grant1]

Yeah right Urango that great fighter who is so slow he telegraphs everything. Did it ever occur to you that the reason Promoter Frank Maloney put him into some 6 rounders was to keep him busy when fights with contenders and the other guys in the UK could not be made. Say whatever you will about Nigel Wright, Gary Reid, Ali Nuumbembee and Scott Haywood but they had the guts to step up to the plate particularly Reid who fought his heart out on the night taking excessive punishment. I have no doubt whatsoever that Ajose can take anybody in the world at 140 pounds. If Witter was confident that he could eliminate Ajose do you not think the fight would have been made by now.

What about the Malignaggi come back fight?

[icemax]

I have no doubt whatsoever that Ajose can take anybody in the world at 140 pounds.

No offence mate, but only in your wet dreams.

You know as well as me that when your boy throws, he throws wild with his chin pointing north, any top tenner at 140 would see it within a minute and Ajose would be tagged and bagged.

[Flea Man]

Pavlik is not technically deficient at all. Just because his lost to Hopkins. Anyway I am not aware that Pavlik can make 140-147 pounds.

:lol:

No wonder Ajose's career is going nowhere, he surrounds himself with people that know FUCK ALL, let me repeat that, FUCK ALL about boxing whatsoever.

And I can't believe you accused Urango of telegraphing his punches, he does, but so does Ajose!!!!!!

Urango KO 5 Ajose, and from what I've seen Ajose can take a punch, but come on, Urango is a beast. Ngoudjo is twice the fighter Ajose is and look what happened to him, dropped twice and lost every round IN HIS HOMETOWN!!!

Seriously mate :patsch you shouldn't be on this forum. BBC 606 will have ya, you'll probably fit in quite well there :lol:

[Flea Man]

No offence mate, but only in your wet dreams.

You know as well as me that when your boy throws, he throws wild with his chin pointing north, any top tenner at 140 would see it within a minute and Ajose would be tagged and bagged.

yeah, and apparently Urango is predictable :patsch

[icemax]

yeah, and apparently Urango is predictable :patsch

Urango would rape Ajose...any top tenner would

[Flea Man]

Urango would rape Ajose...any top tenner would
Urango being one of the hardest hitters P4P doesn't bode well for Ajose.

I bet his boyfriend thinks Ajose would batter Hatton and Pac too :lol::lol::lol:

[icemax]

I bet his boyfriend thinks Ajose would batter Hatton and Pac too :lol::lol::lol:

I wouldn't be surprised...but anyone who throws a punch with their chin in the air is going to go night, night before long. :deal (Kell Brook does the exact same thing)

[Olu G. Rotimi]

:lol:

No wonder Ajose's career is going nowhere, he surrounds himself with people that know FUCK ALL, let me repeat that, FUCK ALL about boxing whatsoever.

And I can't believe you accused Urango of telegraphing his punches, he does, but so does Ajose!!!!!!

Urango KO 5 Ajose, and from what I've seen Ajose can take a punch, but come on, Urango is a beast. Ngoudjo is twice the fighter Ajose is and look what happened to him, dropped twice and lost every round IN HIS HOMETOWN!!!

















Seriously mate :patsch you shouldn't be on this forum. BBC 606 will have ya, you'll probably fit in quite well there :lol:

An idiot like you. Yes that is right I call you an idiot for saying the people around Ajose know nothing about boxing and then you claim Herman Ngoudo a personal friend of ours and Ajose from the African amateur scene is twice the fighter Ajose is. What do you base this on when this is a guy Ajose dealt with very handily in the amateur days. It was Ajose not Ngoudo who won the gold medal at the all African games. It is not my style to abuse but really I must say I do think you must be an idiot for your attack on us. It is one thing to think other fighters are better that is your opinion but to question our integrity and knowledge then your own argument have been disproven by actual facts. Herman and Ajose are both going to have a good laugh when they see your posts.

[BigEars]

Pavlik is not technically deficient at all. Just because his lost to Hopkins. Anyway I am not aware that Pavlik can make 140-147 pounds.

The only punches he throws well are the jab and straight right, he gets some credit for his left hook but in reality it's pretty average and every other punches he throws he does so in a crude and pretty poor fashion.
His amazing height and reach, combined with his obvious power and decent speed are what get him to where he is. But technically, he's far from fantastic.

Anyway Pavlik obviously couldn't get down that low so what would you make of Ajose versus these fighters:

Hatton(at 140)
Bradley(at 140)
Torres(140-147)
Mayweather(147)
Cotto(147)
Clottey(147)
Dzinzurik(154)

[D-MAC]

An idiot like you. Yes that is right I call you an idiot for saying the people around Ajose know nothing about boxing and then you claim Herman Ngoudo a personal friend of ours and Ajose from the African amateur scene is twice the fighter Ajose is. What do you base this on when this is a guy Ajose dealt with very handily in the amateur days. It was Ajose not Ngoudo who won the gold medal at the all African games. It is not my style to abuse but really I must say I do think you must be an idiot for your attack on us. It is one thing to think other fighters are better that is your opinion but to question our integrity and knowledge then your own argument have been disproven by actual facts. Herman and Ajose are both going to have a good laugh when they see your posts.

Give it a rest Olu.

If you come on here spouting shit about how your unproven fighter is the second coming of Christ, then expect to get some stick. This is why people take a dislike to boxers like Khan, Degale etc., because they (and they're teams) talk about how great they are, even though they have achieved fuck all (at least they have the Olympic excuse).

Get your man in some half-decent fights, hope he picks up some half decent scalps, then come back on here and rub it all in our faces. Until then your just making yourself look like a fucking tool with this "best in the world" bollox.

[Grant1]

Give it a rest Olu.

If you come on here spouting shit about how your unproven fighter is the second coming of Christ, then expect to get some stick. This is why people take a dislike to boxers like Khan, Degale etc., because they (and they're teams) talk about how great they are, even though they have achieved fuck all (at least they have the Olympic excuse).

Get your man in some half-decent fights, hope he picks up some half decent scalps, then come back on here and rub it all in our faces. Until then your just making yourself look like a fucking tool with this "best in the world" bollox.

Top post :good

Olu, why do you keep ignoring my question about you taking a small purse to fight Paulie Mallignaggi in his comeback fight?

That's super exposure and a fight I reckon you could win.

[Bomber_uk]

No I don't think Witter is anything great but we are prepared to take him out to get a title shot. Personally I think it would have been a tougher fight years ago when we should have fought but they refused. In the period Ajose has gotten better and Witter has gotten worse. The problem with boxing is that people don't pay attention to detail. I will give you a tip which is some people think Hatton's performance against Malignaggi was great and that Hatton under Floyd Mayweather Senior is getting better etc. He is not and Malignaggi has actually been slipping as shown by his 2nd fight with Ndou. Pacman is improving and I know Hatton is saying 3 more fights and out but it may be that after the 2nd May he has to call it quits.

My memory may be failing me here Olu but didn't you say that Witters camp offerd you a fight but you went back with a counter offer and didn't here anything else?

Surely this proves that they are willing to fight your man doesn't it ?

[Olu G. Rotimi]

My memory may be failing me here Olu but didn't you say that Witters camp offerd you a fight but you went back with a counter offer and didn't here anything else?

Surely this proves that they are willing to fight your man doesn't it ?

The called us up at the last minute thinking we were not training offering peanuts. We had agreed to take the fight internally conscious that the WBC were about to order us to fight Witter in an official eliminator and decided to negotiate for more money similarly to what we would get in a the eliminator. The fact we were ready to take the fight as communicated to them clearly spooked them as we not only did not get any response to the counter offer made they are not picking up our calls. I am pretty sure that they don't want it. They will probably only take it if they can be guaranteed that we are not in shape.

[Grant1]

The called us up at the last minute thinking we were not training offering peanuts. We had agreed to take the fight internally conscious that the WBC were about to order us to fight Witter in an official eliminator and decided to negotiate for more money similarly to what we would get in a the eliminator. The fact we were ready to take the fight as communicated to them clearly spooked them as we not only did not get any response to the counter offer made they are not picking up our calls. I am pretty sure that they don't want it. They will probably only take it if they can be guaranteed that we are not in shape.

Olu, Malignaggi?

[Olu G. Rotimi]

The only punches he throws well are the jab and straight right, he gets some credit for his left hook but in reality it's pretty average and every other punches he throws he does so in a crude and pretty poor fashion.
His amazing height and reach, combined with his obvious power and decent speed are what get him to where he is. But technically, he's far from fantastic.

Anyway Pavlik obviously couldn't get down that low so what would you make of Ajose versus these fighters:

Hatton(at 140)
Bradley(at 140)
Torres(140-147)
Mayweather(147)
Cotto(147)
Clottey(147)
Dzinzurik(154)

Thanks for the opportunity Big Ears. I am privileged to analyse these possibilities. I must say I am dissappointed that Paul Williams that great fighter is not in your list however I can only deal with the questions raised. Here goes:

Hatton is very rough, tough aggressive and popular fighter. I would absolutely love this in Manchester as the greater would be glory to win in this fine fighter's hometown. My only regret is that this fight did not happen sooner about 5 years ago. It is one Ajose and I have wanted since he stopped Bradley Pryce. In a great entertaining fight Ajose plays the matador to Hatton the bull and stops Hatton between rounds 6-10. Speed, versatility, skills and accuracy the key similar to the job PBF did on Hatton. The southpaw and silky skills and power of Ajose will give Hatton a nightmare. If he had problems with Magee and Collazo then it does not bear thinking what would happen to him in this one.

Tomothy Bradley who I actually think is the best of the 140 pound champions would be a great fighter. An excellent technical fighter is Bradley with sleek skills, busy and in excellent physical condition. Somebodies "0" must go and unfortunately for Bradley it will be his "O" that goes by either unanimous decision or late stoppage in a battle of the ages. Bradley would go down in this fight.

Torres is a great and big puncher. I am not a fan of his boxing ability but his punching power is impressive however like some big punchers he can dish it out but cannot take. Torres get stoppped either early or in the middle rounds but will definitely get stopped.

Mayweather is clearly the finest fighter of his era and one of the best ever ever. He may actually be the most complete fighter I have seen in any era and trust me I am fan of Ike Williams, the original Sugar Ray, Kid Gavilan, Ali and the great Charley Burley. Great offensively and defensively with an inbuilt radar to adjust to whatever is in front of him. Many a time I have seen him work out an opponent during a contest clock their rhythmn and thats it he is on the way to victory. To beat PBF you have to unsettle him all contest because he will keep ad******g so lets just say you have to keep him guessing. I honestly cannot make a prediction as to which way the judges would rule but my only wish is that they allow us to do it over 15 rounds. PBF will be facing a southpaw mirror image and will realise just how good both these guys are who will both be in trouble facing the other.

Cotto. I am big big fan and was dissapointed that he lost the Margarito fighter to a fighter he is much better than. I know Margarito might have cheated have his gloves loaded with an illegal substance but Cotto had the skills ability not to allow this limited Mexican fighter to get any foothold. The fight can be easy or hard depending on how Ajose fights but I can see a clear unanimous decision for Ajose. At 140 pounds Ajose would stop Cotto.

Clottey I don't believe is vcapable of being knocked out. Hurt yes. 120 TO 110 unanimous decision to Ajose.

Dzinzurik I must say I have not seen a great deal of so cannot real comment other than to say Ajose has fough a lot of Eastern European both as an amateur and professional.

Obviously PBF will be the most difficult.

Glad you did not mention Urango or Witter.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu, Malignaggi?

What about Malignaggi? It would not be a great accomplishment. Mind would take the fight if it can be made but doubt Lou Dibella would want it.

[Grant1]

What about Malignaggi? It would not be a great accomplishment. Mind would take the fight if it can be made but doubt Lou Dibella would want it.

They are looking for a tune up fight to ease PM back in and I'm sure, rightly or wrongly, they wouldn't see you as a massive threat so why not take a small purse to get the exposure? Win that and the only way is up.

Gotta be worth an ask.

[pathmanc1986]

Thanks for the opportunity Big Ears. I am privileged to analyse these possibilities. I must say I am dissappointed that Paul Williams that great fighter is not in your list however I can only deal with the questions raised. Here goes:

Hatton is very rough, tough aggressive and popular fighter. I would absolutely love this in Manchester as the greater would be glory to win in this fine fighter's hometown. My only regret is that this fight did not happen sooner about 5 years ago. It is one Ajose and I have wanted since he stopped Bradley Pryce. In a great entertaining fight Ajose plays the matador to Hatton the bull and stops Hatton between rounds 6-10. Speed, versatility, skills and accuracy the key similar to the job PBF did on Hatton. The southpaw and silky skills and power of Ajose will give Hatton a nightmare. If he had problems with Magee and Collazo then it does not bear thinking what would happen to him in this one.

Tomothy Bradley who I actually think is the best of the 140 pound champions would be a great fighter. An excellent technical fighter is Bradley with sleek skills, busy and in excellent physical condition. Somebodies "0" must go and unfortunately for Bradley it will be his "O" that goes by either unanimous decision or late stoppage in a battle of the ages. Bradley would go down in this fight.

Torres is a great and big puncher. I am not a fan of his boxing ability but his punching power is impressive however like some big punchers he can dish it out but cannot take. Torres get stoppped either early or in the middle rounds but will definitely get stopped.

Mayweather is clearly the finest fighter of his era and one of the best ever ever. He may actually be the most complete fighter I have seen in any era and trust me I am fan of Ike Williams, the original Sugar Ray, Kid Gavilan, Ali and the great Charley Burley. Great offensively and defensively with an inbuilt radar to adjust to whatever is in front of him. Many a time I have seen him work out an opponent during a contest clock their rhythmn and thats it he is on the way to victory. To beat PBF you have to unsettle him all contest because he will keep ad******g so lets just say you have to keep him guessing. I honestly cannot make a prediction as to which way the judges would rule but my only wish is that they allow us to do it over 15 rounds. PBF will be facing a southpaw mirror image and will realise just how good both these guys are who will both be in trouble facing the other.

Cotto. I am big big fan and was dissapointed that he lost the Margarito fighter to a fighter he is much better than. I know Margarito might have cheated have his gloves loaded with an illegal substance but Cotto had the skills ability not to allow this limited Mexican fighter to get any foothold. The fight can be easy or hard depending on how Ajose fights but I can see a clear unanimous decision for Ajose. At 140 pounds Ajose would stop Cotto.

Clottey I don't believe is vcapable of being knocked out. Hurt yes. 120 TO 110 unanimous decision to Ajose.

Dzinzurik I must say I have not seen a great deal of so cannot real comment other than to say Ajose has fough a lot of Eastern European both as an amateur and professional.

Obviously PBF will be the most difficult.

Glad you did not mention Urango or Witter.


:huh

:lol:

:patsch

[Olu G. Rotimi]

They are looking for a tune up fight to ease PM back in and I'm sure, rightly or wrongly, they wouldn't see you as a massive threat so why not take a small purse to get the exposure? Win that and the only way is up.

Gotta be worth an ask.

If Lou Dibella sees a tape of Ajose fights this will never happen but we are game we can use him as a warm up stay busy contest.

[Grant1]

If Lou Dibella sees a tape of Ajose fights this will never happen but we are game we can use him as a warm up stay busy contest.

This is where you do yourself no favours.

I reckon your an alias - on that note who did you think I was?

[TFFP]

Thanks for the opportunity Big Ears. I am privileged to analyse these possibilities. I must say I am dissappointed that Paul Williams that great fighter is not in your list however I can only deal with the questions raised. Here goes:

Hatton is very rough, tough aggressive and popular fighter. I would absolutely love this in Manchester as the greater would be glory to win in this fine fighter's hometown. My only regret is that this fight did not happen sooner about 5 years ago. It is one Ajose and I have wanted since he stopped Bradley Pryce. In a great entertaining fight Ajose plays the matador to Hatton the bull and stops Hatton between rounds 6-10. Speed, versatility, skills and accuracy the key similar to the job PBF did on Hatton. The southpaw and silky skills and power of Ajose will give Hatton a nightmare. If he had problems with Magee and Collazo then it does not bear thinking what would happen to him in this one.

Tomothy Bradley who I actually think is the best of the 140 pound champions would be a great fighter. An excellent technical fighter is Bradley with sleek skills, busy and in excellent physical condition. Somebodies "0" must go and unfortunately for Bradley it will be his "O" that goes by either unanimous decision or late stoppage in a battle of the ages. Bradley would go down in this fight.

Torres is a great and big puncher. I am not a fan of his boxing ability but his punching power is impressive however like some big punchers he can dish it out but cannot take. Torres get stoppped either early or in the middle rounds but will definitely get stopped.

Mayweather is clearly the finest fighter of his era and one of the best ever ever. He may actually be the most complete fighter I have seen in any era and trust me I am fan of Ike Williams, the original Sugar Ray, Kid Gavilan, Ali and the great Charley Burley. Great offensively and defensively with an inbuilt radar to adjust to whatever is in front of him. Many a time I have seen him work out an opponent during a contest clock their rhythmn and thats it he is on the way to victory. To beat PBF you have to unsettle him all contest because he will keep ad******g so lets just say you have to keep him guessing. I honestly cannot make a prediction as to which way the judges would rule but my only wish is that they allow us to do it over 15 rounds. PBF will be facing a southpaw mirror image and will realise just how good both these guys are who will both be in trouble facing the other.

Cotto. I am big big fan and was dissapointed that he lost the Margarito fighter to a fighter he is much better than. I know Margarito might have cheated have his gloves loaded with an illegal substance but Cotto had the skills ability not to allow this limited Mexican fighter to get any foothold. The fight can be easy or hard depending on how Ajose fights but I can see a clear unanimous decision for Ajose. At 140 pounds Ajose would stop Cotto.

Clottey I don't believe is vcapable of being knocked out. Hurt yes. 120 TO 110 unanimous decision to Ajose.

Dzinzurik I must say I have not seen a great deal of so cannot real comment other than to say Ajose has fough a lot of Eastern European both as an amateur and professional.

Obviously PBF will be the most difficult.

Glad you did not mention Urango or Witter.
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Nice work on flushing that remaining shread of credibility down the toilet.

That shit is fucking hilarious.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

This is where you do yourself no favours.

I reckon your an alias - on that note who did you think I was?

Lets just say I am sure you are Welsh.

[pathmanc1986]

Lets just say I am sure you are Welsh.


well it does say S Wales on his location...........

:huh

[moorser]

Thanks for the opportunity Big Ears. I am privileged to analyse these possibilities. I must say I am dissappointed that Paul Williams that great fighter is not in your list however I can only deal with the questions raised. Here goes:

Hatton is very rough, tough aggressive and popular fighter. I would absolutely love this in Manchester as the greater would be glory to win in this fine fighter's hometown. My only regret is that this fight did not happen sooner about 5 years ago. It is one Ajose and I have wanted since he stopped Bradley Pryce. In a great entertaining fight Ajose plays the matador to Hatton the bull and stops Hatton between rounds 6-10. Speed, versatility, skills and accuracy the key similar to the job PBF did on Hatton. The southpaw and silky skills and power of Ajose will give Hatton a nightmare. If he had problems with Magee and Collazo then it does not bear thinking what would happen to him in this one.

Tomothy Bradley who I actually think is the best of the 140 pound champions would be a great fighter. An excellent technical fighter is Bradley with sleek skills, busy and in excellent physical condition. Somebodies "0" must go and unfortunately for Bradley it will be his "O" that goes by either unanimous decision or late stoppage in a battle of the ages. Bradley would go down in this fight.

Torres is a great and big puncher. I am not a fan of his boxing ability but his punching power is impressive however like some big punchers he can dish it out but cannot take. Torres get stoppped either early or in the middle rounds but will definitely get stopped.

Mayweather is clearly the finest fighter of his era and one of the best ever ever. He may actually be the most complete fighter I have seen in any era and trust me I am fan of Ike Williams, the original Sugar Ray, Kid Gavilan, Ali and the great Charley Burley. Great offensively and defensively with an inbuilt radar to adjust to whatever is in front of him. Many a time I have seen him work out an opponent during a contest clock their rhythmn and thats it he is on the way to victory. To beat PBF you have to unsettle him all contest because he will keep ad******g so lets just say you have to keep him guessing. I honestly cannot make a prediction as to which way the judges would rule but my only wish is that they allow us to do it over 15 rounds. PBF will be facing a southpaw mirror image and will realise just how good both these guys are who will both be in trouble facing the other.

Cotto. I am big big fan and was dissapointed that he lost the Margarito fighter to a fighter he is much better than. I know Margarito might have cheated have his gloves loaded with an illegal substance but Cotto had the skills ability not to allow this limited Mexican fighter to get any foothold. The fight can be easy or hard depending on how Ajose fights but I can see a clear unanimous decision for Ajose. At 140 pounds Ajose would stop Cotto.

Clottey I don't believe is vcapable of being knocked out. Hurt yes. 120 TO 110 unanimous decision to Ajose.

Dzinzurik I must say I have not seen a great deal of so cannot real comment other than to say Ajose has fough a lot of Eastern European both as an amateur and professional.

Obviously PBF will be the most difficult.

Glad you did not mention Urango or Witter.


i suppose after ajose beats pbf he becomes one of the p4p greats .
come on man you should put a nappy on that mouth of yours cause you are talking some serious shite !

[Grant1]

Lets just say I am sure you are Welsh.

It says 'S Wales' next to my location so well done, your right so far.

Keep going.............

[Olu G. Rotimi]

i suppose after ajose beats pbf he becomes one of the p4p greats .
come on man you should put a nappy on that mouth of yours cause you are talking some serious shite !


I was asked a question about potential match ups and I gave my honest and sincere answer as to what I envision happening. If you don't agree with me that is your prerogative but don't think you can ask me to shut up. As far as I am aware it is a free country or does the privilege of freedom of expression not apply to foreigners or is it Africans.

[D-MAC]

Thanks for the opportunity Big Ears. I am privileged to analyse these possibilities. I must say I am dissappointed that Paul Williams that great fighter is not in your list however I can only deal with the questions raised. Here goes:

In a great entertaining fight Ajose plays the matador to Hatton the bull and stops Hatton between rounds 6-10.

Bradley would go down in this fight.

Torres get stoppped either early or in the middle rounds but will definitely get stopped.

Mayweather is clearly the finest fighter of his era and one of the best ever ever. He may actually be the most complete fighter I have seen in any era. PBF will be facing a southpaw mirror image and will realise just how good both these guys are who will both be in trouble facing the other.

I can see a clear unanimous decision for Ajose. At 140 pounds Ajose would stop Cotto.

Clottey I don't believe is vcapable of being knocked out. Hurt yes. 120 TO 110 unanimous decision to Ajose.



:huh:think:rofl:rofl:rofl:lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl

Fucking hilarious shit Olu.

Have you ever thought about doing stand-up.

The bit I liked the best is where you describe Mayweather as the most complete fighter you have seen in any era, then go on to predict a "hard-to-pick" 50/50 style match between him and your man. You must be a fucking alias.

[TFFP]

:huh:think:rofl:rofl:rofl:lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl

Fucking hilarious shit Olu.

Have you ever thought about doing stand-up.

The bit I liked the best is where you describe Mayweather as the most complete fighter you have seen in any era, then go on to predict a "hard-to-pick" 50/50 style match between him and your man. You must be a fucking alias.
How about the Olusegun "being a mirror image" of Mayweather quote?

Thats right, wild, reckless Olusegun is mirror image of Mayweather's defensive and counterpunching style.

You can not buy this.

[D-MAC]

How about the Olusegun "being a mirror image" of Mayweather quote?

Thats right, wild, reckless Olusegun is mirror image of Mayweather's defensive and counterpunching style.

You can not buy this.

I think even Olusegun himself would cringe if he read this shit.

[Flea Man]

An idiot like you. Yes that is right I call you an idiot for saying the people around Ajose know nothing about boxing and then you claim Herman Ngoudo a personal friend of ours and Ajose from the African amateur scene is twice the fighter Ajose is. What do you base this on when this is a guy Ajose dealt with very handily in the amateur days. It was Ajose not Ngoudo who won the gold medal at the all African games. It is not my style to abuse but really I must say I do think you must be an idiot for your attack on us. It is one thing to think other fighters are better that is your opinion but to question our integrity and knowledge then your own argument have been disproven by actual facts. Herman and Ajose are both going to have a good laugh when they see your posts.

David Tua was knocked spark out by a jab in the amateurs.....the amateurs mean shit nowadays my friend, Herman would beat Ajose handily.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

David Tua was knocked spark out by a jab in the amateurs.....the amateurs mean shit nowadays my friend, Herman would beat Ajose handily.

Lets agree to disagree.

[icemax]

Thats right, wild, reckless Olusegun is mirror image of Mayweather's defensive and counterpunching style.

You can not buy this.

I think that Olu may have got this right without knowing it...mirror image, antithesis are just about the same...wild and reckless with chin up north is about right. Mayweather would be laughing his cock off whilst taking Ajose to kindergarten.

[Flea Man]

Lets agree to disagree.

Fair enough, everyone else agrees with me so that's fine :good

[Beeston Brawler]

Is Olu secretly Audley Harrison?

By reference to Mayweather he really means Lennox Lewis...... Cotto = Holyfield, Margarito = Bowe and Clottey = Tua?

[Olu G. Rotimi]

:huh:think:rofl:rofl:rofl:lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl

Fucking hilarious shit Olu.

Have you ever thought about doing stand-up.

The bit I liked the best is where you describe Mayweather as the most complete fighter you have seen in any era, then go on to predict a "hard-to-pick" 50/50 style match between him and your man. You must be a fucking alias.

I have not done stand-up for a long time certainly not since my days at University. You obviously don't know how much confidence I have in my fighter.

[Flea Man]

I have not done stand-up for a long time certainly not since my days at University. You obviously don't know how much confidence I have in my fighter.

You must be a pseudonym....no way are you legit

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Is Olu secretly Audley Harrison?

By reference to Mayweather he really means Lennox Lewis...... Cotto = Holyfield, Margarito = Bowe and Clottey = Tua?

I know Bowe overall career might be viewed as dissappointing in that he had the potential to be the best heavyweight of his era but disrespectful to compare this gifted warrior to that cheat and limited fighter from Mexico calling himself the Tijuana Tornado.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Fair enough, everyone else agrees with me so that's fine :good

Yes same way they all thought Liston would destroy Ali, Forteman would retire Ali and Margarito would murder Mosley. Careful of the company you keep.