View Full Version : 1992 Whitaker vs 2001 Tszyu at 140 who wins
BoppaZoo
08-24-2007, 03:47 AM
Ive argued this fight for a while.
I chose 1992 for Whitaker because it was the only time he really fought at 140.
Now who do you think would win finally once and for all.
Whitaker was great at defense and kept a great work rate through his fights.
Tszyu was awesome against Southpaws with a Pro record of 8-0 with 8 Ko's against them.
Now at 140 who wins this fight.
PowerPuncher
08-24-2007, 06:55 AM
Pernell 120-108 - outclassing Tyszu. Tyszu was easy to hit. He would be looking for counters all night but the only place the only place Kostya is punching is thin air all night
Awaits for Zoo fans to point out Tyszu beat 3 C Class Southpaws :lol:
Guess what Zoo fans - Pernell Whitaker is 100 times that boxer Shamba Mitchell or Judah is.
brooklyn1550
08-24-2007, 12:49 PM
Whitaker UD after getting up off the canvas sometime in the fight
bumdujour
08-24-2007, 01:33 PM
pernell wins a shutout. personally, i think tszyu is a bit overrated.
BoppaZoo
08-25-2007, 01:05 AM
Cheers for the responses me and Sweet Pea have been arguing this subject for along time now.
I still think Tszyu would catch him. and i have no problem with the people that think Whitaker would win because he was a great Champ.
doublesuited
08-25-2007, 02:37 AM
Whitaker boxes circles around the stiff Tszyu.
Tszyu quits in his corner in the 10th round. He wants no more embarrassment.
Robbi
08-25-2007, 07:12 AM
Whitaker would own Tszyu.
PowerPuncher
08-25-2007, 07:55 AM
Cheers for the responses me and Sweet Pea have been arguing this subject for along time now.
I still think Tszyu would catch him. and i have no problem with the people that think Whitaker would win because he was a great Champ.
Even if he does catch Pernell that doesn't mean Pernell gets KO'd. Felix Trinidad who hits harder than Zoo couldn't KO a shot Whitaker. Whitaker had a very good chin. Tyszu couldn't stop Hatton, Ukral, Tackie, Phillips and they were all to be hit. Neither could he stop a past it Roger Mayweather
Xplosive
08-17-2008, 05:34 AM
Cheers for the responses me and Sweet Pea have been arguing this subject for along time now.
I still think Tszyu would catch him. and i have no problem with the people that think Whitaker would win because he was a great Champ.
Only thing Tszyu would "catch" is an ass whuppin.
Whitaker by wide UD.
stevebhoy87
08-17-2008, 05:37 AM
whitaker would own tszyu, it would be a very comfortable victory, wide UD for pea
Loewe
08-17-2008, 05:56 AM
Cheers for the responses me and Sweet Pea have been arguing this subject for along time now.
I still think Tszyu would catch him. and i have no problem with the people that think Whitaker would win because he was a great Champ.
I agree that Tszyu would catch Sweet Pea at sometime in the fight, he was great at timing his opponents. But Whitaker had a great chin and I donīt think it would be enough for a KO. Whitaker UD 117-110.
flamengo
08-17-2008, 07:15 AM
Kostya was one of the finest exponents of 'The Art' when it came to handling southpaws. A simple rule he followed was keeping his left foot on the outside of his oponents rightfoot, therefore taking away the chance of a southpaw landing right hands with a great deal of power. Tszyu dropped many southpaws with single right hand shots. He had dynamite in that punch. 'Sweet Pea" enjoyed mixing it up, at close range, and demonstrating his clever array of punching and infighting evasiveness.
This is one of the better fighter "comparison" questions listed on this site. It makes for many arguements, and or, questions. I wonder if Pernell had the 'chin' to absorb 10-15 Tszyu right hands???
I will not write anything suggesting an outcome, as the outcome seems to have been posted by all of the above members, I just hope this serves as a simple plate of food for thought.
the cobra
08-17-2008, 07:22 AM
Whitaker probably gets stunned late in the fight, might go down, but apart from that he owns the fight.
Something like 9-3 or 10-2 decision.
flamengo
08-17-2008, 07:27 AM
Any thought of Zab Judah vs Pernell??
Tszyu loses in a very close contest despite flooring Whitaker.
Sweet Pea was very good but its not like he was unbeatable.
Whittaker would not be able to back Tszyu up therefore allowing Tszyu to fight his fight (pace wise).
Tszyu is very underestimated on these forums especially by the Americans who swear Pryor is the next coming of Jesus despite his resume being shit and his only "great" win being over a blown up featherweight (although a great one) whom he had 2 life and death struggles with.
China_hand_Joe
08-17-2008, 08:44 AM
Tszyu close decision.
Nigel_Benn
08-18-2008, 04:03 PM
Whitaker by UD but i think he might get a little lackadaisal and be dropped like he did against mayweather.
Bill Butcher
08-18-2008, 06:47 PM
Whitaker by decision,Tszyu would win rds, he would be in the fight the whole way thru but Whitakers slickness would be the key.
Andrey
08-18-2008, 07:57 PM
This is ridicilous..
Whitaker was hit repeatadly by Buddy McGirt who said was injured by a straight right..
Surprise Tszyu has best straight right in 140 history.
Tszyu also has a brutal left to the body that slows fighters down quickly when it lands..
and absouluty genius at cutting off the ring..
he would give Whitaker a night mare.
Of course Sweet Pea was a legend so Pernell winning is completely possible but Whitaker by a shut out is ridicilous
Andrey
sweet_scientist
08-18-2008, 09:29 PM
This is ridicilous..
Whitaker was hit repeatadly by Buddy McGirt who said was injured by a straight right..
Surprise Tszyu has best straight right in 140 history.
Tszyu also has a brutal left to the body that slows fighters down quickly when it lands..
and absouluty genius at cutting off the ring..
he would give Whitaker a night mare.
Of course Sweet Pea was a legend so Pernell winning is completely possible but Whitaker by a shut out is ridicilous
Andrey
I think most would expect Tszyu to land his right hand on Pea, but the reality is that he likely takes it and smiles back. Pea got whacked by Tito Trinidad repeatedly and stood up to it whilst in a drug-addled condition, and so whilst Tszyu is a great hitter, and he definitely is, he doesn't pack the punch Tito does and so the likelihood of him turning the fight with right hand shots isn't really that strong of a possibility.
As for the Whitaker-McGirt fights, McGirt had a great right hand, as sharp as Tszyu's (though not with the same power) but Buddy made that a fight due to his own caginess as well (and it was Buddy's left that was injured, not his right hand). Tszyu is a much more hittable target than Buddy McGirt and I'd expect him to get tagged much more frequently than Whitaker tagged McGirt.
Tell you the truth, I think if anyone is in danger of being knocked out here, it's probably Tszyu, especially if Whitaker decided to get inside and work the body on him. Tszyu didn't have the best of stamina and if forced to fight at a high pace, he could gas (see Phillips and Urkal fights for example).
All likelihood though, it goes the distance, Pea winning perhaps 9 rounds to 3, with Kostya scoring a knockdown or possibly two.
Robbi
08-18-2008, 10:26 PM
Tszyu KO Whitaker. Give me a break.
The Wanderer
08-18-2008, 11:52 PM
Whitaker by UD.
As great as Kostya's straight right is, Whitaker stood up to taking about half the punches Tito Trinidad threw at him in a 12 round fight at the end of his career. I don't think Kostya is going to have any better luck at doing it while PErnell is still in his prime. Plus Whitaker is so much more mobile than Kostya that he makes it really hard for Tszyu to track him down.
Pernell takes it about 9 rounds to 3, perhaps being dumped on the canvas once when he gets a little too careless and Tsyzu catches him just right.
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