Calzaghe on Froch

[ishy]

.....Speaking of world champions, Britain amazingly has only one at the moment, Carl Froch.

He’s got a huge fight coming up against Jermain Taylor and could come unstuck if Taylor proves he has some heart to back his ability, but hopefully for the UK Froch will win.

But why, when Carl is the only world champion we have and has a great chance to prove himself as the top super middleweight, is he once again talking about me!

It’s frankly ridiculous. He’s our only world champion and yet he is still talking trash about someone who doesn’t even fight anymore. It doesn’t bother me; he can say what he likes (as he did at the weekend, saying he’d knock me out). I don’t feel I have anything to prove to Carl Froch and I find it incredible he can’t just move on and worry about his own career.



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[debaser]

Fair points, I think Froch is just making sure that if Calzaghe does comer out of retirement he's first in the queue.

[mryeags]

Current champions always call out recently retired legends .... how many times does Hatton have to call out Pretty Boy ? and how many other fighters are calling out mayweather ...even Vitali Klit is calling out the long since retired Lennox Lewis ..... its just part of the game !

[TFFP]

A good article. The Froch bit aside, its interesting to hear his plans.

[ishy]

He seems to be serious about the promoting. I thought he had just set the company up for the Jones Jr. fight but he actually has plans for his promotion.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Calzaghe retired rather than face a hungry determined Froch who was ready to put his lights out. In fact reminds me of Calzaghe slagging off Steve Collins who retired rather than facing him.

[threethirteen]

Olu, there was no way that Froch would have beaten Calzaghe. None at all.

[TFFP]

Froch beating Calzaghe :lol::patsch

It's honestly one of the more ridiculous things you'll ever hear. What has Froch got to worry Calzaghe? Is he a noticeably harder puncher than Kessler or Hopkins at LHW? Is he anywhere near as accurate with those shots, does he carry the same handspeed?

Does he show anything that is going to outbox Calzaghe over 12 rounds?

The answer is categorically NO.

[pathmanc1986]

I agree with you TFFP i think joe would take froch to school with a lopsided UD

he doesnt have the power to stop calzaghe and he comes forward throwing once off single shots. joe would out jab him and flurry him to oblivion



As for Froch calling out calzaghe, he just wants to get paid. he knows he would be a career high pay day and at the end of the day hes a professional and this is a business

[kieron]

It's a fair comment from Joe. He has earned massive amounts of my respect for staying retired and hope he doesn't make a comebck. That said as much as I like and rate Froch he seems taylor made for Calzaghe and Joe would be leagues ahead.

[1stcontact]

Calzaghe retired rather than face a hungry determined Froch who was ready to put his lights out. In fact reminds me of Calzaghe slagging off Steve Collins who retired rather than facing him.

But in that case wasnt the fight already signed??

[El Cepillo]

If Froch can establish himself as a major name, does anyone think Calzaghe will come back and fight him? :think

[kieron]

I hope not. I have a feeling that the Roy Jones fight showed Calzaghe at the very peak of his abilities and he would be on the slide now if he continued. You can only cheat time for so long and he's not getting any younger.

[threethirteen]

Calzaghe "peaked" against Lacy. Sublime concentration, speed and coordination. Even losing a step, he's fast enough and mobile enough to make Froch look foolish.

Froch doesn't pose the same stylistic problems that Kessler did early on, he doesn't have the hand speed Kessler does and he doesn't have the defense that Kessler does.

Froch should look to beat taylor (which is possible) and get over that fact that Joe was always out of his reach. Which, ultimately for his career, was a good thing. If Joe had beaten him prior to the Pascal fight, Froch would have been done for.

[Guy]

Well put Joe, maybe Froch will put a lid on it now and concentrate on his own career, after all he doesn't want to come across as a little bit thick....

[cityofgod]

I laugh at 'how great Kessler is' in some of these posts. The guy went the distance with Calzaghe, hardly on his own on that front it he now?

Only little midget boy Manfredo didnt see the final bell after he was slapped too hard on the shoulder and the referee stepped in.You'd have to go back to 2005 for his previous stoppage - when he stopped Mario Veit !

[FLINT ISLAND]

Froch should let Calzaghe go and accept the fight was not to be.

Froch can live with the peace of knowing that Calzaghe didnt want it - even though Calzaghe was most likely winner.

Froch should just concentrate on training - eating good food - sleeping well - enjoying a healthy sex life with his girlfriend - stay focused - fight - earning money - investing in property - and building a boxing legacy - and winning more titles - and seeking big fights - and lead a successful productive life.

Let Calzaghe go Carl Froch - the way to get one over Calzaghe is to build a legacy with a much more true world championship big fights.

Win or Lose or Draw - If Froch seeks and fights the biggest names and fights them in their own backyard wether that be in the united states, japan, china, germany, france, spain, canada, sweden, or Austrilia he will embrass Calzaghe into looking like the local cardiff ice rink champion.

Even though Calzaghe is more talented - Froch can make Calzaghe look like a joking champion who just fought at the cardiff ice rink all his life.

All Froch has to do is seek out the biggest names in the sport and be willing to fight them in their back yard.

Even if he loses a fight here and there - if he can compete with credit against the best then he can stay around at the top and fight more big fights.

I hope Froch over his next 5 fights embrasses Calzaghe's legacy as just a very safe unambtious boring legacy.

[1stcontact]

Froch should let Calzaghe go and accept the fight was not to be.

Froch can live with the peace of knowing that Calzaghe didnt want it - even though Calzaghe was most likely winner.

Froch should just concentrate on training - eating good food - sleeping well - enjoying a healthy sex life with his girlfriend - stay focused - fight - earning money - investing in property - and building a boxing legacy - and winning more titles - and seeking big fights - and lead a successful productive life.

Let Calzaghe go Carl Froch - the way to get one over Calzaghe is to build a legacy with a much more true world championship big fights.

Win or Lose or Draw - If Froch seeks and fights the biggest names and fights them in their own backyard wether that be in the united states, japan, china, germany, france, spain, canada, sweden, or Austrilia he will embrass Calzaghe into looking like the local cardiff ice rink champion.

Even though Calzaghe is more talented - Froch can make Calzaghe look like a joking champion who just fought at the cardiff ice rink all his life.

All Froch has to do is seek out the biggest names in the sport and be willing to fight them in their back yard.

Even if he loses a fight here and there - if he can compete with credit against the best then he can stay around at the top and fight more big fights.

I hope Froch over his next 5 fights embrasses Calzaghe's legacy as just a very safe unambtious boring legacy.
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For anyone who does wanna read all that here's the short version

Flint thinks:
Froch should forget about Calzaghe and get on with his life and boxing career, and if he really wants to stick it to Calzaghe he should go out and build a better legacy......

[TheUzi]

Calzaghe retired rather than face a hungry determined Froch who was ready to put his lights out. In fact reminds me of Calzaghe slagging off Steve Collins who retired rather than facing him.


what a complete crock of shit.

[achillesthegreat]

Froch has done what he has to try and achieve the same outcome that Haye did. Difference is Haye was making moves WHILE talking. Now Froch has made his move but it all came much too late.

[9Ball]

Why is Froch even thinking about JC now?? Smacks of being a bit thick if you ask me. He needs to concentrate on what he is going to do if Taylor turns up with his game head on. Because if Taylor is up for it he is in for a hard night of fisticuffs...

Froch seems to think that, because JC never agreed to a fight with him, he has a moral victory which gives him the right to say JC ducked him. In reality Froch never earned the right to fight JC, had he beaten Pascal while JC was still boxing then maybe but before Pascal, Froch did precisely sweet FA in terms of world level. (which I think is what Achilles was trying to say above ;) )

[Primadonna Kool]

Joe Calzaghe should just come back out of retirement, and open a can of whoop ass on Carl Froch.

[9Ball]

He should but he wont, he is 100% into promoting now.

["TKO"]

Calzaghe retired rather than face a hungry determined Froch who was ready to put his lights out. In fact reminds me of Calzaghe slagging off Steve Collins who retired rather than facing him.

IMHO, it was silly then and it's silly now. A fighter, whoever they are, has the right to retire at the top of their game without being accused of ducking whoever the latest "next big thing" happens to be at the time (and there's always one). In fact, I wish more top fighters would go the Calzaghe/Collins way. Can't remember who it was but one top fighter once said it's better to have people asking why you're retiring than asking when you're retiring. Like a great actor, always leave the crowd wanting more. Exactly!

[HOF]

Buncey summed it up best when Froch confronted him on the boxing hour the other week. Bunce said that if Froch had got his belt 2 years earlier instead of plodding through his career it would've been Calzaghe-Froch at the millennium stadium instead of Calzaghe-Kessler. It's all about timing and whereas it is right to praise Froch for taking this fight to Taylor first defence up, he has backed himself into a corner by his painfully slow progression and inactivity. He has fought 19 times less than Kessler even though Kessler is younger and has done sod all for the last 18 months. Froch can't be blamed for calling out Calzaghe but he's been doing it for so long with nothing behind himself to back it up record-wise. And that's his own fault

[p.Townend]

I agree with Calzaghe,Froch should be concerned with his fight with Taylor not a fight with a retired guy who was fighting at light heavy any way.I dont Froch would have had much chance against Joe anyway,certainly not at this stage of his career.Joe has vast expierence and far better skills.He would beat Froch on points,it would probably be boring and one sided and leave Froch in a simillar state as Lacy.

[p.Townend]

Calzaghe retired rather than face a hungry determined Froch who was ready to put his lights out. In fact reminds me of Calzaghe slagging off Steve Collins who retired rather than facing him.
Calzaghe did not pull out of a fight with Froch when tickets were sold for it,he never agreed to anything with Froch.Collins pulled out and at short notice.Why would a man who fought Lacy Hopkins and Kessler be in any way afraid of Froch.Im not a Calzaghe fan at all but think a Froch fight would be an easy one for Joe.

[KCD]

Calzaghe retired rather than face a hungry determined Froch who was ready to put his lights out. In fact reminds me of Calzaghe slagging off Steve Collins who retired rather than facing him.



Froch has been calling out Calzaghe since he turned pro and has done jack all to deserve the fight. The Froch that struggled in beating a top 15 fighter in Pascal would have been embarassed by Calzaghe that night.

Oh and i hope Taylor knocks him out

[Jetset78]

Erm Froch our only world champion???

Hatton?

[1stcontact]

Erm Froch our only world champion???

Hatton?

IBO Champion and Ring Mag Champion......Yes

World Champion......No

["TKO"]

Froch should let Calzaghe go and accept the fight was not to be.

Froch can live with the peace of knowing that Calzaghe didnt want it - even though Calzaghe was most likely winner.

Froch should just concentrate on training - eating good food - sleeping well - enjoying a healthy sex life with his girlfriend - stay focused - fight - earning money - investing in property - and building a boxing legacy - and winning more titles - and seeking big fights - and lead a successful productive life.

Let Calzaghe go Carl Froch - the way to get one over Calzaghe is to build a legacy with a much more true world championship big fights.

Win or Lose or Draw - If Froch seeks and fights the biggest names and fights them in their own backyard wether that be in the united states, japan, china, germany, france, spain, canada, sweden, or Austrilia he will embrass Calzaghe into looking like the local cardiff ice rink champion.

Even though Calzaghe is more talented - Froch can make Calzaghe look like a joking champion who just fought at the cardiff ice rink all his life.

All Froch has to do is seek out the biggest names in the sport and be willing to fight them in their back yard.

Even if he loses a fight here and there - if he can compete with credit against the best then he can stay around at the top and fight more big fights.

I hope Froch over his next 5 fights embrasses Calzaghe's legacy as just a very safe unambtious boring legacy.

I thought you were Welsh? To say that, you're very misinformed. Calzaghe fought at the Cardiff Ice Rink four times his whole career. He spent most of it fighting in another country (England) FFS. You are correct Froch should just forget about Calzaghe and try to build his own legacy. If not, he's going to end up like Junior Witter, a forgotten man. I can't see him outdoing Calzaghe though, he's simply not as talented. He will probably lose to Taylor and would also be an underdog vs Kessler (massively), Bute and 50/50 with Andrade. Plus, I doubt very much that he's going to go on some world tour fighting all the best fighters in their backyards, he's going to want home advantage if poss, as any fighter would.

["TKO"]

Buncey summed it up best when Froch confronted him on the boxing hour the other week. Bunce said that if Froch had got his belt 2 years earlier instead of plodding through his career it would've been Calzaghe-Froch at the millennium stadium instead of Calzaghe-Kessler. It's all about timing and whereas it is right to praise Froch for taking this fight to Taylor first defence up, he has backed himself into a corner by his painfully slow progression and inactivity. He has fought 19 times less than Kessler even though Kessler is younger and has done sod all for the last 18 months. Froch can't be blamed for calling out Calzaghe but he's been doing it for so long with nothing behind himself to back it up record-wise. And that's his own fault

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[warrior85]

froch is & always has been a gobshite,joe woulda shut him out 12-0 had they fought