Haye has signed on unbelievable terms

[onourway]

David Haye got his wish yesterday when he finally signed for a summer world heavyweight title bout against Wladimir Klitschko. After months of wrangling, Haye, the former WBC, WBA and WBO cruiserweight champion, put pen to paper at 4am for a bout on June 20.
Even though he has been forced to concede ground on every point to make the deal, Haye believes that he is about to see all his dreams come true. “I've been telling people since I could talk that I'd be heavyweight champion of the world, now I've got my chance,” Haye said. “I know Wladimir's style and I know what his assets are. I know how to beat him.”
However, his chance came at a cost as Klitschko, who holds the WBO, IBF and IBO titles, and his team turned the screw in negotiations. Not only must the Briton concede home advantage, he will have the short end of the purse. Indeed, it is understood that the only money Haye will receive will be part of the cash paid by Setanta Sports, which will screen the bout live in the United Kingdom. Klitschko's company, K2, will promote the bout and get the entire proceeds of lucrative German and American television deals, as well as the ticket receipts and television rights for the rest of the world.
The concessions did not stop there. If Haye wins, he has promised Klitschko, 33, an immediate rematch and, should he win that, he would be forced to face the Ukrainian's older brother, Vitali, the WBC champion. Such is the difficulty of negotiating when one family has a near monopoly of the heavyweight titles.
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“I'll have to fight the Klitschkos three times,” Haye said. “Only then am I free to do what I want. I've made a career of taking the difficult route and here we go again. I'm saying I want to be the heavyweight champion of the world and to do that I've got to beat Wladimir, and I've made the fight as quickly as possible.”
Berlin has long been the frontrunner as the venue, although it is far from certain. “It takes place wherever they want it to be,” Haye said. “They said it is 90 per cent likely it will be
in Germany.” Munich, Mannheim, Cologne and Hamburg could be alternatives, while there have even been rumours that it could go to Belgrade or Kiev, although the desperate economic situation in Ukraine would seem to rule out the latter, a city where Vitali has twice run for mayor.
Haye, 28, won his world cruiserweight title on foreign soil, beating Jean-Marc Mormeck in Paris on a show staged by Don King, Mormeck's promoter. “You're going to see exactly why I've accepted the fight under the terms - because I know I can beat him, the same way I knew I could beat Mormeck, and I didn't do that for much money,” Haye said. “I did it because I knew I was going to win and that the fight would then propel me on to bigger fights and get me to the stage where I am today.”
Evander Holyfield is the best-known cruiserweight champion to have moved up to win the world heavyweight title, but even he did not do it on the fast track that Haye has put himself on.
The Briton has had little more than 15 minutes' action in two bouts as a heavyweight and has not boxed since stopping Monte Barrett in five rounds in November. Against Klitschko, he will be giving away an advantage of 5in and about 2st.
“I wouldn't be surprised if they think this is an easy fight for them, but little do they know what I'm all about,” Haye said. “I'm fighting a guy who is that much bigger, heavier and has a longer reach than me. I'm going to have to make up the distance, I'm going to have to throw punches in bunches, I'm going to have to do things that I haven't had to do before because I've been bigger and stronger than the guys I've been fighting.
“This time around it isn't the case, but my whole career has been aiming for this one night.”


Whoa.

He's going to get paid peanuts, has to beat Wlad twice and then would have to beat Vitali as well.

Haye is a mad bastard, I'd go as far to say there's nobody else like him in boxing.

[Grievesy]

Yeah, heard about this over on the GF. Haye off his rocker tbh. Being paid nothing and having to fight Wlad twice and Vitali should he win is nuts. He's got some balls on him.

[Primadonna Kool]

I am now a support of Haye 100% fully..

[GPater11093]

so can someone lay out the terms exactly for me i didnt quite understand

[Bodysnatcher]

When you read this, the obscenity of Dan Rafael's tirades against Booth's negotiating approach becomes clear. Guys like fat Dan were trying to make out like Haye was asking for the world, when in fact it now seems clear the delays in making a deal were because the Klits were trying to fuck Haye over every which way possible.

[BremnerBomber]

I'm gonna love how the usaul Klitites are going to try and twist this.

You can only have respect for Haye for taking these kind of terms

[nulty]

The giants are getting slayed. "Ok david i'll fight you but if you beat me my big brother (who can barely move anymore) is coming for you."

Haye KO6 Wlad

Haye UD Vitali

[9Ball]

IF this is true then you have to give Haye massive credit for taking the deal. It shows he realy does beleive that he can beat them and he wasn't just talking bollocks - which a lot of people on here said. The Klits should be booed by the whole of boxing for taking such a stance, I dont care if they hold all the belts, it proves the are trying to create a monopoly which is bad for boxing.
Come on Hayemaker, smash them up good :)

[kieron]

Wlad is clearly worried sick about Haye. He obviously thought that by taking the piss it would put Haye off!!

[Grievesy]

so can someone lay out the terms exactly for me i didnt quite understand

Well Haye gets the money from Setanta and that's it. Wlad gets German and American TV money and all the gate. Plus he chooses the venue.

Should Haye win he has to give Wlad and immediate rematch and if he wins that he has to fight Vitali straight after that.

[GazOC]

It all depends on whether the terms for the second Wlad and Vit fights are still to be negotiated. If they are, he's just had to take a challengers purse for the first fight so he can make "proper" money for the second 2 fights.

[TFFP]

It all depends on whether the terms for the second Wlad and Vit fights are still to be negotiated. If they are, he's just had to take a challengers purse for the first fight so he can make "proper" money for the second 2 fights.
I'd imagine this is the case. I doubt Haye would have accepted otherwise.

I think he's confident he'll win this and cash in later.

[Mookhound]

Haye TKO2 WK
Haye TKO3 WK
Haye Ret10 VK

Haye is far, far better than people outside of the UK realise. He will land vs WK first, and as long as he protects his chin, i think he's far too quick for the older Klitschko

[GazOC]

I'd imagine this is the case. I doubt Haye would have accepted otherwise.

I think he's confident he'll win this and cash in later.

Then the fact he has to give Wlad a rematch and then fight Vitali is kind of irrelevant as those two fights would be by far the biggest fights open to Haye at that point in any case.

[achillesthegreat]

I always said it was the Klit cunts doing this. Hayes never shown himself to be a bitch. The man is one of the only real warriors left, even Pac doesn't do it like this.

[Gaz S]

It's deals like this that's what's wrong with boxing. Fair enough a rematch clause, but then stipulating having to fight the other brother if one loses?
I know it's what we would like to see anyway if Haye wins - a Haye v Vitali fight, but to contractually bind Haye to it on the back of two other fights is morally wrong.

However, major props to David Haye :good. I've always admired his ballsy face-in-the-fire attitude and this time he's gone beyond. It puts to shame a lot of other fighters out there who talk the talk but fail to walk the walk.

As I keep saying, you may not like guys like David Haye and Carl Froch, but man you have to respect them. They're setting examples to the rest of the world, and win or lose, I'm proud they're British and I'm proud of their attitudes.
Best of luck fellas, I'm behind you 100% :bbb:thumbsup

[GazOC]

Without knowing the details it seems that all Haye may have done is take the short end of a purse to get the champion in the ring like lots (most) of challengers have to do and then agreed that his next 2 fights after that will be the biggest/ best / well paid fights open to him, fights he probably would have chosen to take without being "forced"...no biggie.

Those two stipulated fights after the first Wlad fight are as advantageous to Haye as they are to the Kilts, theres every chance it was was mutual decision between the 2 camps rather than something the Klits forced on Haye in a "or else" manner.

[doug.ie]

so...how much could haye make from the setanta end of things ??

[GPater11093]

Well Haye gets the money from Setanta and that's it. Wlad gets German and American TV money and all the gate. Plus he chooses the venue.

Should Haye win he has to give Wlad and immediate rematch and if he wins that he has to fight Vitali straight after that.

cheers mate

i think Haye wants to fight both the brothers so i think that suits him but the money is crap i hope setanata pay him is the money terms that in all of teh fights or just the first wlad one

[MattMattMatt]

Let's get it on!!!

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[GPater11093]

amazing photo matt

[MattMattMatt]

amazing photo matt

Cheers, I had hoped they would sign the bloody contract otherwise all that procrastination would have gone to waste!

[9Ball]

This three fight deal may not end up coming to fruition anyway. If Haye really smashes Wlad up and ko's him in convincing fashion then it may go straight on to Vit??

[GPater11093]

This three fight deal may not end up coming to fruition anyway. If Haye really smashes Wlad up and ko's him in convincing fashion then it may go straight on to Vit??

thats what im thinking if he really does a number of Wlad i can see Wlad and Vitali retiring dont you?

i think its a big safety buffer so they can guage him agains Wlad teh first time

[doug.ie]

well, they only part of that deal that i am concerned about, or curious about, is how much this setanta money could amount to..

[GazOC]

so...how much could haye make from the setanta end of things ??

Lets hope its no too much, we don't want a PPV on our hands.

[GPater11093]

Lets hope its no too much, we don't want a PPV on our hands.

dont think Setanta will make it PPV but i hope he gets a decent deal so he sets himself up financeully and can retire at the right time

[GazOC]

He'll have done OK out of the Enzo fight and the promo stuff he does.

[GPater11093]

He'll have done OK out of the Enzo fight and the promo stuff he does.

you think theres not alot of money in boxing except the real big fights

hell be well off but not enough to retire at 35 or so

[doug.ie]

shit..just thought...we're going have to look at the fight in one of those startling / blinding snow white rings...hate those white rings.

[doggyland]

There's something about Bermondsey boys eh ;-)

[9Ball]

There's something about Bermondsey boys eh ;-)

Yup, most of them are queer but one or two turn out ok :good

[GazOC]

you think theres not alot of money in boxing except the real big fights

hell be well off but not enough to retire at 35 or so

It all depends what kind of livestyle he wants to fund in retirement, I'm pretty sure I could put my feet up for life on the money he got from the Enzo fight.

I don't know his finances but the Enzo fight must have grossed him a fair bit. A packed O2 and PPV must be worth a decent wedge, does anyone have the figures for that fight?

[D-MAC]

We keep hearing all about what is wrong with boxing.

Well, David Haye is all that is right about boxing.:good

[Kid Lucky]

It's deals like this that's what's wrong with boxing. Fair enough a rematch clause, but then stipulating having to fight the other brother if one loses?
I know it's what we would like to see anyway if Haye wins - a Haye v Vitali fight, but to contractually bind Haye to it on the back of two other fights is morally wrong.

However, major props to David Haye :good. I've always admired his ballsy face-in-the-fire attitude and this time he's gone beyond. It puts to shame a lot of other fighters out there who talk the talk but fail to walk the walk.

As I keep saying, you may not like guys like David Haye and Carl Froch, but man you have to respect them. They're setting examples to the rest of the world, and win or lose, I'm proud they're British and I'm proud of their attitudes.
Best of luck fellas, I'm behind you 100% :bbb:thumbsup

What he said - these boys are in it for the glory.

No wonder when anyone fights one of these robot brothers they look like they couldn't give a shit about winning the fight. Just glad that Lennox never gave a rematch.

Psychologically though this may well rebound against them, if Haye's willing to take these terms (the split in money and the Vit match not the rematch which is acceptable) then he's giving them a big message that he isn't there to play cricket as Big Frank would say.

[achillesthegreat]

Haye may be cool with it. The Setanta purse might still pay him well and rematching Wlad and fighting Vit is the best fights in terms of money and legacy. He's fought in Paris so Germany shouldn't be too bad. If he rematches Wlad, then it should be in the UK.

Haye's probably the kind of guy that didn't think much of this.

[achillesthegreat]

Note: Wlad has also chosen the ring size. Steward said that wlad asked him what size ring they should go for! I'm sure haye has also confirmed he was giving wlad everything he wants, including the ring size!!!

[GazOC]

Haye may be cool with it. The Setanta purse might still pay him well and rematching Wlad and fighting Vit is the best fights in terms of money and legacy.

:deal

[FLINT ISLAND]

It all depends what kind of livestyle he wants to fund in retirement, I'm pretty sure I could put my feet up for life on the money he got from the Enzo fight.

I don't know his finances but the Enzo fight must have grossed him a fair bit. A packed O2 and PPV must be worth a decent wedge, does anyone have the figures for that fight?

I dont think that Haye took any cut from the O2 and it was not pay per view Gaz - it was on setanta - any of them extras were snapped up by Frank ****** it was a sports network show and ****** invested in it and took any of the tickets sales etc - I dont expect Haye had any profit from that.

However it is too my understanding ****** paid Haye close to a million pounds for Haye to defend them titles against Maccarenelli.

Not quite - but something around £800,000.

Enzo didnt even get half of that more like £250,000.

Thats just me reading in between the lines.

Anyway to the fight.

The moral victory is already with Haye.

Wlad has showed himself to be a insecure sissy by needing heaven the earth and everything in it as a condition to fight Haye.

Haye only needs his gumshield and shorts and boots and a plane ticket to germany and a hotel room.

I am 100% in support from Haye.

I know that some people think I am against Haye because he raped Enzo Maccarenelli.

But the Maccarenelli fight is history now.

I am behind Haye and hope he smashes sissy Wlad.

I think Haye can definetly fight with more confidence and desrtuction than Wlad and find his glass chin.

But also cautious that Wlad is a very powerful dude and so Haye getting knocked out early is a strong possibilty.

[Chinny]

Haye said on the bunce hour it will still be the most by far he's been paid for a title fight.

Which made me think maybe not as much as the Barrett fight (which seems wierd)

[p.Townend]

He clearly wants the fight and really belives he can win it.Good luck to him.I cant see him pulling it off but have nothing but respect for him after accepting terms like these,it will be a great night for the sport.

[FLINT ISLAND]

you think theres not alot of money in boxing except the real big fights

hell be well off but not enough to retire at 35 or so

Its like GazOC says - its all to do with standards.

Frank Lampard was a mutli millioniare yet he was stalling on a new Chelsea contract because he wanted

5 years and £140,000 a week

and Chelsea were offering 4 years and £135,000 a week

Lampard said it was important to "secure my future"

He was already a multi millioniare.

I have never seen £140,000 in my life - but I still get by ok.

When you are rich you get more superficial worries and are never satisfied.

In a way being rich is a curse.

[MattMattMatt]

It doesn't matter, this is what is going to happen...
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Right, gonna stop procrastinating. Honest.

[GazOC]

You're quite right Flint, I'd forgot it was on Setanta cos I was at the O2!!

[GazOC]

Haye said on the bunce hour it will still be the most by far he's been paid for a title fight.

Which made me think maybe not as much as the Barrett fight (which seems wierd)


I don't think the Barret fight did that well Chinny, they ended up selling half price tickets and still had very large gaps in the seating.

[doug.ie]

It doesn't matter, this is what is going to happen...
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Right, gonna stop procrastinating. Honest.


thats brilliant ^^

[Jetset78]

I'm glad that Wlad will finally get exposed as the fraud that he is.

It might even shut up his nuthuggers on this board .... well maybe not

[icemax]

I'm glad that Wlad will finally get exposed as the fraud that he is.


He is a fraud because?????

[GazOC]

He is a fraud because?????

Because every boxer who loses a fight is exposed as a fraud!!

[9Ball]

Because every boxer who loses a fight is exposed as a fraud!!


:rofl:rofl:rofl

[JIM KELLY]

God bless Haye!!!!!!!!

[Farmboxer]

Using that logic, Haye has been exposed as a fraud.

Vlad will make Haye rich. Klitschko fights are always sold out. Vitali Vs. Gomez was sold out. Vitali Vs. Kirk Johnson was sold out and that was at MSG, New York, during a snow storm!

[brown bomber]

how is he going to make haye rich? He's only getting tv money. Haye will tear the klitchko bro's a new one. Then he'll get rich.

[trotter]

Vlad will make Haye rich. Klitschko fights are always sold out. Vitali Vs. Gomez was sold out. Vitali Vs. Kirk Johnson was sold out and that was at MSG, New York, during a snow storm!

Read the thread first mate.

Haye won't get a penny of that money.

[doug.ie]

haye beats both klits over 3 fights, meanwhile, rocky rogan beats sam sexton, lamon brewster and valuev...thus setting up the biggest fight in british boxing history to unify the heavyweight championship of the world..

[mcguirpa]

Rematch means nothing. Wlad is going to be knocked out and will want nothing more to do with David Haye.

Unfortunately Haye will then go on to get Ko'd by Vitali.

IMVHO this is all about Vitali unifying the titles before he retires, this is one route open to him. Send in his brother to lose to Haye, then take the titles off Haye.

I'm a big haye fan, and seriously hope it doesn't play out like this, but it's the only scenario I can see.

[kieron]

The more time goes on the more I'm beginning to think that Vitali may be the easier of the two for Haye stylistically. Wlad has much more movement and speed than Vit which I think will be the difference. However, Wlad is still nowhere near as quick as Haye and he'll get sparked by a nice quick lead Haye right hand

[achillesthegreat]

It doesn't matter, this is what is going to happen...
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Right, gonna stop procrastinating. Honest.

Amzing.

[Doyley10]

Just a thought. Although Haye will probably ahve a sizable brit following over in Germany making noise (cos german fans seem not to for some reason), if still has the Northern Cyprus flag on his shorts when he fights, there could well be a few local Turks who buy tickets and get on the bandwagon.....

[doug.ie]

the Northern Cyprus flag on his shorts when he fights....

they'll be blinded trying to see it with that snow white ring