Top 20s at Weight

[GPater11093]

ok heres my first attempts at top 2os at different weights i have only done afew

tell me what you think is wrong and right

also post your top 20s in each weight as i am looking to compile for every weight

Light Heavy:

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Harry Greb
4. Archie Moore
5. Bob Fitzimmons
6. Michael Spinks
7. Gene Tunney
8. Maxie Rosenbloom
9. Billy Conn
10. Jimmy Bivins
11. Tommy Loughran
12. Harold Johnson
13. Joey Maxim
14. John Henry Lewis
15. Joey Maxim
16. Mathew Saad Muhammed
17. Jack Dillon
18. Victor Galindez
19. John Conteh
20. Lloyd Marshall



Middleweight

1. Marvin Hagler
2. Carlos Monzon
3. Sugar Ray Robinson
4. Harry Greb
5. Mickey Walker
6. Bob Fitzimmons
8. Dick Tiger
9. Bernard Hopkins
10. Roy Jones Jr.
11. Tony Zale
12. Stanley Ketchel
13. Jake LaMotta
14. Tiger Flowers
15. Marcel Cerdan
16. Mike Gibbons
17. Gene Fullmer
18. Non Pareil Jack Dempsey
19. Carmen Basilio
20. Emile Griffith


Welterweight

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Jose Napoles
3. Ray Leonard
4. Charley Burley
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Barbados Joe Walcott
7. Carmen Basilio
8. Emile Griffith
9. Henry Armstrong
10. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
11. Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
12. Young Corbett III
13. Antonio Cervantes
14. Don Curry
15. Fritzie Zivic
16. Holman Williams
17. Wilfredo Benitez
18. Jack Britton
19. Cocoa Kid
20. Oscar De La Hoya


Lightweight


1. Benny Leonard
2. Roberto Duran
3. Joe Gans
4. Ike Williams
5. Henry Armstrong
6. Pernell Whittaker
7. Jimmy McLarin
8. Barney Ross
9. Carlos Ortiz
10. Alexis Arguello
11. Julio Cesar Chavez
12. Sammy Angott
13. Tony Canzoneri
14. Lou Ambers
15. Battling Nelson
16. Ken Buchanan
17. Beau jack
18. Bob Montgomery
19. Flash Elorde
20. Ismael Laguna

[Sweet Pea]

On first glance..

LHW: Jones too high. Spinks, Johnson, Bivins, etc too low. Mustafa in the list but no Saad?

MW: Not too bad.

WW: Rodriguez way too low. Griffith too low.

[GPater11093]

On first glance..

LHW: Jones too high. Spinks, Johnson, Bivins, etc too low. Mustafa in the list but no Saad?

MW: Not too bad.

WW: Rodriguez way too low. Griffith too low.

cheers out of intrest what does yours look like

this is a trial and error thing isnt it, i agree with what you say actually

funny the hardest one to do MW was the best done

[GPater11093]

is this a better Light heavy and welter

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Harry Greb
4. Archie Moore
5. Bob Fitzimmons
6. Michael Spinks
7. Gene Tunney
8. Maxie Rosenbloom
9. Billy Conn
10. Jimmy Bivins
11. Tommy Loughran
12. Lloyd Marshall
13. Harold Johnson
14. Joey Maxim
15. John Henry Lewis
16. John Conteh
17. Joey Maxim
18. Mathew Saad Muhammed
19. Jack Dillon
20. Victor Galindez



1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Jose Napoles
3. Ray Leonard
4. Charley Burley
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Barbados Joe Walcott
7. Carmen Basilio
8. Emile Griffith
9. Henry Armstrong
10. Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
11. Young Corbett III
12. Luiz Manuel Rodriguez
13. Antonio Cervantes
14. Don Curry
15. Fritzie Zivic
16. Holman Williams
17. Wilfredo Benitez
18. Jack Britton
19. Cocoa Kid
20. Oscar De La Hoya

[McGrain]

Yeah, MW is a horrific nightmare to rank.

[GPater11093]

heres my lightweight it s quite ahrd to do

1. Benny Leonard
2. Roberto Duran
3. Joe Gans
4. Ike Williams
5. Henry Armstrong
6. Pernell Whittaker
7. Jimmy McLarin
8. Barney Ross
9. Carlos Ortiz
10. Alexis Arguello
11. Julio Cesar Chavez
12. Sammy Angott
13. Tony Canzoneri
14. Lou Ambers
15. Battling Nelson
16. Ken Buchanan
17. Beau jack
18. Bob Montgomery
19. Flash Elorde
20. Ismael Laguna

[GPater11093]

Yeah, MW is a horrific nightmare to rank.

yeh the top 4 are set in my mind but after taht its a nightmare everyone has had rouhgly same achievement the when you get to the last 5 it goes abit down hill IMO compared tothe 15 before

[Dempsey1238]

Belive Jack Delaney should be there, he did beat Loughran after all, and Tommy never did get back at old blue eyes.

[Dempsey1238]

Fullmer IS a top 20 middleweight imo.

[Sweet Pea]

I'd still have Rodriguez comfortably in the top 10 Welters.

[Mantequilla]

I'd probably put Saad and Galindez above Conteh at light heavy.don't think he accomplished quite enough to be top 20, even though he may have been capable of beating them both.

[GPater11093]

Belive Jack Delaney should be there, he did beat Loughran after all, and Tommy never did get back at old blue eyes.


Fullmer IS a top 20 middleweight imo.

I'd still have Rodriguez comfortably in the top 10 Welters.

I'd probably put Saad and Galindez above Conteh at light heavy.don't think he accomplished quite enough to be top 20, even though he may have been capable of beating them both.

cheers for thoughts lads ill ahve a think about them and see where id put them

[SuzieQ49]

Light Heavy:

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Harry Greb
4. Archie Moore
5. Bob Fitzimmons
6. Roy Jones Jr
7. Gene Tunney
8. Maxie Rosenbloom
9. Billy Conn
10. Tommy Loughran
11. Lloyd Marshall
12. Michael Spinks
13. Joey Maxim
14. John Henry Lewis
15. John Conteh
16. Harold Johnson
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Eddie Mustapha Muhammed
19. Jack Dillon
20. Victor Galindez


did you accidently leave out bob foster??

my only big problem is you having joey maxim over harold johnson. this is unnacceptable. Harold Johnson was on a level above Maxim and would have shut him out if they ever fought. I also thought harold johnson beat better opposition. Johnson beat archie moore and ezzard charles who joey maxim went 0-8 against! Harold won head to head over bivins, so he rates higher. I think johnson is top 10 material, when you see him on film u might agree

Lloyd Marshall belongs high at middleweight, but he never did anything at light-heavyweight that was accomplishing....both moore and charles knocked him out at 175lb. you have marshall over bivins despite bivins knocking him out for the duration light-heavyweight title. I would swap harold johnson with lloyd marshall.

- If you have room, I believe Mauro Mina deserves a spot in the top 20


great effort!

[GPater11093]

my only big problem is you having joey maxim over harold johnson. this is unnacceptable. Harold Johnson was on a level above Maxim and would have shut him out if they ever fought. I also thought harold johnson beat better opposition. Johnson beat archie moore and ezzard charles who joey maxim went 0-8 against!

Lloyd Marshall belongs high at middleweight, but he never did anything at light-heavyweight that was accomplishing....both moore and charles knocked him out at 175lb. you have marshall over bivins despite bivins knocking him out for the duration light-heavyweight title. I would swap harold johnson with lloyd marshall.



great effort!

cheers man

first time ive ever done one and dont know alot about the 20s to 50s really as im pretty young

looking at records your spot on like i said hit and miss affair

out of intrest what is your top 20

[GPater11093]

ok lads i ahve updated it

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Harry Greb
4. Archie Moore
5. Bob Fitzimmons
6. Michael Spinks
7. Gene Tunney
8. Maxie Rosenbloom
9. Billy Conn
10. Jimmy Bivins
11. Tommy Loughran
12. Harold Johnson
13. Joey Maxim
14. John Henry Lewis
15. Joey Maxim
16. Mathew Saad Muhammed
17. Jack Dillon
18. Victor Galindez
19. John Conteh
20. Lloyd Marshall


Marvin Hagler
2. Carlos Monzon
3. Sugar Ray Robinson
4. Harry Greb
5. Mickey Walker
6. Bob Fitzimmons
8. Dick Tiger
9. Bernard Hopkins
10. Roy Jones Jr.
11. Tony Zale
12. Stanley Ketchel
13. Jake LaMotta
14. Tiger Flowers
15. Marcel Cerdan
16. Mike Gibbons
17. Gene Fullmer
18. Non Pareil Jack Dempsey
19. Carmen Basilio
20. Emile Griffith


1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Jose Napoles
3. Ray Leonard
4. Charley Burley
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Barbados Joe Walcott
7. Carmen Basilio
8. Emile Griffith
9. Henry Armstrong
10. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
11. Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
12. Young Corbett III
13. Antonio Cervantes
14. Don Curry
15. Fritzie Zivic
16. Holman Williams
17. Wilfredo Benitez
18. Jack Britton
19. Cocoa Kid
20. Oscar De La Hoya


can somebody post their top 20s for the original 8 weight classes

[SuzieQ49]

heres my top 20 lightheavyweights


1. Ezzard Charles
2. Archie Moore
3. Bob Foster
4. Michael Spinks
5. Billy Conn
6. Sam Langford
7. John Henry Lewis
8. Tommy Loughran
9. Gene Tunney
10. Harold Johnson
11. Harry Greb
12. Mauro Mina- This is a wildcard pick not everyone will agree with, but i stand by it
13. Jimmy Bivins
14. Roy Jones
15. Dwight Muhammad Qawi
16. Bob Fitzimmons- some may think this is low
18. Tiger Jack Fox
17. Jack Delaney
18. Victor Galindez
19. Maxie Rosenbloom
20. Dick Tiger- Twice beat talented champion Jose Torres

[GPater11093]

heres my top 20 lightheavyweights


1. Ezzard Charles
2. Archie Moore
3. Bob Foster
4. Michael Spinks
5. Billy Conn
6. Sam Langford
7. John Henry Lewis
8. Tommy Loughran
9. Gene Tunney
10. Harold Johnson
11. Harry Greb
12. Mauro Mina- This is a wildcard pick not everyone will agree with, but i stand by it
13. Jimmy Bivins
14. Roy Jones
15. Dwight Muhammad Qawi
16. Bob Fitzimmons- some may think this is low
18. Tiger Jack Fox
17. Jack Delaney
18. Victor Galindez
19. Maxie Rosenbloom
20. Dick Tiger- Twice beat talented champion Jose Torres

good list mate a bit different than mine afew great picks

[asero]

did langford achieved more at LHW than moore and charles?

[asero]

why is lewis and britton rated miles apart....they have almost have the same resume and accomplishment?

[DFW]

You couldn't possibly have a top twenty lightheavyweight list without Bob Foster being included.

[Sweet Pea]

Yeah, you kinda just forgot Foster. He should be well within the top 10, if not top 5, LHW's of all time.

[GPater11093]

You couldn't possibly have a top twenty lightheavyweight list without Bob Foster being included.

Yeah, you kinda just forgot Foster. He should be well within the top 10, if not top 5, LHW's of all time.


knew i was missing someone definitly top 5