who the hell cares about the I.B.O belt?

[rochsolloch]

i want to see hatton v castillo fight but i bet neither man gives a toss about the ibo belt infact its embarrasing!

[unitas]

i want to see hatton v castillo fight but i bet neither man gives a toss about the ibo belt infact its embarrasing!

thes two dont need that piece of junk belt.

and they shouldnt wear it. otherwise the IBO will start thinking that they have some kind of pull in world boxing....:verysad

[David UK]

Who the hell cares about any belt other than The Ring belt?

[Cookie]

Doubt anyone cares. But it's a good way to call something a "world title fight" and to have a 12 rounder.

[Max Molyneux]

Who the hell cares about any belt other than The Ring belt?

The ring belt goes to whoever HBO want It to go to.:yep

[heerko koois]

Boxing is in poor shape right now.........how can a boxing fan explain to someone that there are more than 100 "worldchampions " ? I cannot ......

[jc]

Tonights fight is for THE WORLD LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP.

Bothers me a bit that Hatton is carrying around the IBO at press conferences and not the Ring belt though...

[El Bombasto]

i want to see hatton v castillo fight but i bet neither man gives a toss about the ibo belt infact its embarrasing!

I may be wrong, but I believe that the title is necessary to make it a 12 round fight.

[China_hand_Joe]

Nobody cares about the ring belt. It is probably as worthless as the IBO to be honest, you'll never hear a non-hardcore fan even mention the thing.

[El Bombasto]

Nobody cares about the ring belt. It is probably as worthless as the IBO to be honest, you'll never hear a non-hardcore fan even mention the thing.

Nice avatar

[rochsolloch]

its no secret that fighters want the W.B.C belt.

that green belt historically is the symbol of the "true" champion.

the ibf 2nd and wba 3rd.

these are the only belts that count,the other ones are junk!

[The Kurgan]

ALL belts should be ignored below the heavyweight division, and even then only the lineal championship matters. Linearity is too hard to work out when boxers are moving around in weight divisions. As for ABC organisations, they've always been pointless wastes of time.

The days of sanctioning bodies are numbered, I feel, now that we can get a fight like Pac-Morales for the WBC International Title (or whatever it was). If the boxers are the best in the division, we'll know... IF they fight each other.

So, Castillo-Hatton being for the IBO title isn't important. What's important is that here are two world class boxers fighting each other. :happy

[jc]

BS

THe WBA is the oldest and the IBF owner didi time for ranking fixing, the WBC is financially runied by Rochianni and is mexican,

Morons like you giving credience because you like the colour starts this crap, if the ONE champion in each division has a belt then its real the rest are paper. The IBO title that Hatton has holds more merit than the WBC WBA WBO at 140 cause he is the champion

Spot on.:good

[BigEars]

Whether boxing fans like it or not the IBO belt is becomming a major player .
On the negative side another belt recognized as a big one is very bad for the sport . On the plus side the IBO seem to conduct themselves well and have independent rankings .

IBO Heavyweight champion , Current: Waldamir Klitschko
Past: Lennox Lewis , Hasim Rahman , Pinklon Thomas

Cruiserweight , Current: Tomasz Adamek
Past: Carl Thompson , Sebastien Rothman , Thomas Hearns , James Toney , Adolpho Washington , Uriah Grant , Robert Daniels

Light-Heavyweight , Current: Antonio Tarver
Past: Bernard Hopkins , Glen Johnson , Roy Jones jnr

Super Middleweight , Current: vacant
Past: Jeff Lacy , Robin Reid , Mads Larsen , Vinny Pazienza , Dana Rosenblatt

Middleweight , Current: Raymond Joval
Past: Glenwood Brown

Light-Middleweight ,Current: Atilla Kovacs
Past: Sergio Gabriel Martinez , Lester Ellis

Welterweight , Current: Isaac Hlatshwayo
Past: Floyd Mayweather , Dingaan Thobela , Roger Mayweather

Light-Welterweight , Current: Ricky Hatton
Past: Stevie Johnston , Roger Mayweather

Lightweight: , Current: vacant(Stevie Johnston v Rolando Reyes)
Past:Isaac Hlatshwayo , Leavander Johnston

Super featherweight , Current: Cassius Baloyi
Past: Gairy St.Clair , Jimmy Bredahl , Troy Dorsey

Featherweight , Current: Thomas Mashaba
Past: Marco Antonio Barrera , Naseem Hamed , Michael Brodie , Vuyani Bungu , Junior Jones , Derrick Gainer

Super Bantamweight , Current: Taklani Ndlovu(challenges for IBF title next)
Past: Paulie Ayala

Bantamweight , Current: Silence Mabuza
Past: Rafael Marquez , Johnny Bredahl

Super-Flyweight , Current: Vacant
Past: Damaen Kelly , Mauricio Pastrana

Flyweight , Current: Vic Darchinyan
Past: Mzukisi Sikali , Scotty Olson , Masibulele Makepula , Damaen Kelly

Light-Fyweight: Vacant
Past: Monelisi Mhikiza Myekeni

Minimumweight , Current: Nkosinathi Joyi
Past: Noel Tunacao

There's a lot of big names on the list above and it seems there's more and more big name fighters fighting for the IBO belt .

I think a 5th belt could be a good thing , because a 5th could lead to a 6th and a 6th to a 7th and maybe by them it will become such a farce that someone with the power to sort things out will do so and either get mass unification or get recognition for one belt(eg Ring , although I'm not saying that's the answer) and one belt only .

[stake501]

exactly

it all depends on who hold it....hatton could relaese all the belts,
someone could start an organisationa actually called ABC or XYZ and give it to him, and that would be the most important belt at 140

[rochsolloch]

BS

THe WBA is the oldest and the IBF owner didi time for ranking fixing, the WBC is financially runied by Rochianni and is mexican,

Morons like you giving credience because you like the colour starts this crap, if the ONE champion in each division has a belt then its real the rest are paper. The IBO title that Hatton has holds more merit than the WBC WBA IBO WBO at 140 cause he is the champion

thats fucking nonsense!
ask any fighter what belt symbolises the true champ and its wbc every time you always see wbc on mayweathers shorts and toney never stops talking about the wbc .never mind about the scandals and financial ruin ,we all know boxing is corrupt what im pointing out is that the fighters are after 1 belt in particular the wbc!
if your right then don king is a shit promoter because hes financially ruined many fighter careers?
fucking idiot youve probably never had a pair of gloves on in your life and know fiuck all about fighting.:-(

[BigEars]

exactly

it all depends on who hold it....hatton could relaese all the belts,
someone could start an organisationa actually called ABC or XYZ and give it to him, and that would be the most important belt at 140

Yep , we know who the true champions are . We don't need a bit of leather and tin/gold plated whatever(depending on how much money the org has got;)) around a fighters waist to tell us .

[BigEars]

thats fucking nonsense!
ask any fighter what belt symbolises the true champ and its wbc every time you always see wbc on mayweathers shorts and toney never stops talking about the wbc .never mind about the scandals and financial ruin ,we all know boxing is corrupt what im pointing out is that the fighters are after 1 belt in particular the wbc!
if your right then don king is a shit promoter because hes financially ruined many fighter careers?
fucking idiot youve probably never had a pair of gloves on in your life and know fiuck all about fighting.:-(

Toney reffered to the WBC title as 'We Be Crooks' when he was a champ at S.Middleweight . It is only because the WBC were putting him into World title eliminators at Heavyweight that he became more concerned with them than anyone else .

Mayweather spouts rediculous crap about the WBC , he claims he was the true champion at 140 because he beat fucking Gatti for it . Does anyone else agree with that ?..........which would you rather have won Kostya Tszyu's IBF title(and and the RING , Linear and universally recognized 140 lb championship that comes with it) or Gatti's green strap ? .
Champions make the belt but the other may round .

The WBC let Pongsaklek Wonjongkam go 3 years without a mandatory , and kept him away from Jorge Arce specifically . When he did have to fight a mandatory it was only one of moderate difficulty .

When Bobby Gunn fought Enzo Maccarinelli for the WBO title he was 15th by the WBO but 14th by the WBC .

Fighters are after one belt and one belt in perticular.........the universally recognized one........they don't care if that happens to be a WBC belt because the real champion holds that or the IBO belt because that's what he holds . WBC=WBO=IBF=WBA..........don't be fooled .

[David UK]

BS

THe WBA is the oldest and the IBF owner didi time for ranking fixing, the WBC is financially runied by Rochianni and is mexican,

Morons like you giving credience because you like the colour starts this crap, if the ONE champion in each division has a belt then its real the rest are paper. The IBO title that Hatton has holds more merit than the WBC WBA IBO WBO at 140 cause he is the champion

Absolutely. As soon as someone posts anything to the contary, like listing belts in some sort of order I immediately know they know nothing about boxing and are to be ignored

[Asterion]

Hatton-Castillo is for the Lineal 140 Championship and the winner will take the Ring belt home.

Fuck the IBO....and also the WBA, IBF, WBC, WBO, etccccccccccccc.

[Steve Fox]

The Ring magazine are great, they represent everthing that is good about boxing, the opinions of these journalists are all that matters.

[dangerousity]

Opinions are usually biased thus Ring Magazine's rankings is not infallible.

IMO They are only slightly better than the alphabet orgs, too many people here give the RING undue credit.

List the WBO, WBA, WBC, IBF top 10 and compare that to Ring's top 10. You will see why the Rings rankings and champions are more than slightly better than the alphabelts.

[FiveStoneFists]

Opinions are usually biased thus Ring Magazine's rankings is not infallible.

IMO They are only slightly better than the alphabet orgs, too many people here give the RING undue credit.

:good

[FiveStoneFists]

List the WBO, WBA, WBC, IBF top 10 and compare that to Ring's top 10. You will see why the Rings rankings and champions are more than slightly better than the alphabelts.

Problem with the Ring is that they cannot enforce mandatories, which is a necessity at times in this sport (sadly). A fighter also gains notoriety when he wins one of the major belts, it made some of Hatton's previous opponents (post-Tszyu) "credible", you cannot have it both ways.

[El Bombasto]

Apparrently Hatton and Castillo

[Vantage_West]

in 98 ibo was a very respected belt and as it was new it was kinda fresh and different from the other belts like the ibf in the 80's...sadly becuase it was not fought over enough and less and less compotition was looking for it.it became a wbu style belt.

shame as the organisation was looking to change the belt situtatuin but became just another ripple in the water.

[Vantage_West]

List the WBO, WBA, WBC, IBF top 10 and compare that to Ring's top 10. You will see why the Rings rankings and champions are more than slightly better than the alphabelts.exactly you always see the other champions at the bottom of the rankings or not even on the list

[dangerousity]

Problem with the Ring is that they cannot enforce mandatories, which is a necessity at times in this sport (sadly). A fighter also gains notoriety when he wins one of the major belts, it made some of Hatton's previous opponents (post-Tszyu) "credible", you cannot have it both ways.

Thats why the way I see it, the 4 main belts are just trinkets and the enforcers. The Ring are not bounded by the rules of the 4 main belts that would leave them with ridiculous rankings...they can work together but ultimately, the trinkets enforce the rules, the ring gives the most legitimate rankings.

Take for example the WBC rankings, the so called most legitimate belt. Can someone explain to me why the highly regarded best HW boxer in the world in Wladimir Klitschko is not even in their top 10? How can a belt have realistic ranking when the best in the world isnt even top 10? They enforce the rules and 99% of the time, their champions are top 10 material but end of the day, their rankings is nowhere near as good as Ring...who are not bounded by their rules.

[hitman_hatton1]

i blame the sanctioning bodies for this mess.

he won 2 titles and got stripped almost immediately.

the urango ibf win was a farce.

they stripped him within days.

the sanctioning bodies have cheapened thereselves. :patsch

[Steve Fox]

Take tennis or snooker, you can be ranked number 1. in the world going into a major tournament, but if you don't win that tournament it doesn't mean anything.