Arlovski appreciation thread

[brandon9624]

I don't think Arlovski got the appreciation he deserved in the UFC. After losing to Sylvia the second time after a five round lack luster event, he was treated like a leper. IMO he won that descision against Sylvia (it was reported Sylvia passed out from a concussion after the match), and had a very impressive win over Cruz, in which he ko'ed him from a seated position to his win over Jake O'Brien which he won by tko. O'Brien held a win over Herring and Cruz held a win over Mir, they were no pushovers. And then there's the Werdum fight. I feel Arlovski was never endangered of losing this fight. Werdum was overwelmed with Arloski's striking, and he is the one who made it a bad fight, not trying to engage Arlovski, who was clearly in control.:thumbsup Arlovski however, was treated as a fighter on the downside of his career in the UFC, and slipped out of main event contention. Was this fair?

[scurlaruntings]

In my opinion AA has never been that good. Extremely overrated and too in love with he's stand up. That being said Dana was a cunt and tried to take him for one.

[Grievesy]

In my opinion AA has never been that good. Extremely overrated and too in love with he's stand up. That being said Dana was a cunt and tried to take him for one.

I agree that he is in love with his stand-up. All he seems to train is kickboxing or boxing judging from that 24/7 series thing they had before the Fedor fight. What gets me though is that he has a background in Sambo, or at least I think he does and he doesn't use it ever. It's crystal clear that it is effective from guys like Fedor, Kharitonov and from way back when, Taktarov etc. Terrible waste.

[scurlaruntings]

Thats what happens when you've been told a thousand times he has a great standup. I dont think AA even knows what Sambo is anymore.

[Grievesy]

Yep. For a supposed Sambo fighter, he often looks lost on the ground.

Some appreciation thread this is!:D

[boxingcar]

Yep. For a supposed Sambo fighter, he often looks lost on the ground.

Some appreciation thread this is!:D


brandon9624 should've posted a hate thread instead...(reverse psychology works more often than not)

[Grievesy]

brandon9624 should've posted a hate thread instead...(reverse psychology works more often than not)

Unless he is using reverse psychology now and really wants us all to hate on AA.:blood

[fatcity]

I thought I had read somewhere that AA was going to box as a pro.What happened?:huh

[scurlaruntings]

That was just Roach hyping he's fight with Fedor. AA wouldnt even be a quality journeyman in the pro ranks. MMA striking and boxing are two entirely diffrent beasts. Bearing in mind the guys chin is soooo sooo horrid id prefer not to see him anywhere near a boxing ring.

[AJAX]

Yep. For a supposed Sambo fighter, he often looks lost on the ground.

Some appreciation thread this is!:D

When has he "often" looked lost on the ground?.....I guess when Fedor KTFO him he was ass up and looked lost starring at the matt close up.:lol:

[jimmie]

Arlovski is a very good fighter shame the UFC buried him on a prelim last year but hey if Danas pissed at you he will fuck you over anyway possible.

[Kestrel]

AA would beat Mir.

[AJAX]

AA would beat Mir.

Oh, OK:good

[boxingcar]

Unless he is using reverse psychology now and really wants us all to hate on AA.:blood
true :D

[MaliSlamusrex]

If AA was American, British or had a lucrative market to sell the AA brand to they would have treated him differently. If AA would act like a complete prick like Junie Browing he would be appreciated more by American fans.

Arlovski doesn't have any bad losses, he was the UFC champion, he has skills and if he was in the UFC he would be one of the more dangerous fighter. The reason I think the UFC treated him like they did is because they hyped him and hyped him saying he is "unbeatable" and when he lost they marketed him wrong and thought "we can market Lesner like AA because he is bigger and people know who he is"

I don't think Arlovski got the appreciation he deserved in the UFC. After losing to Sylvia the second time after a five round lack luster event, he was treated like a leper. IMO he won that descision against Sylvia (it was reported Sylvia passed out from a concussion after the match), and had a very impressive win over Cruz, in which he ko'ed him from a seated position to his win over Jake O'Brien which he won by tko. O'Brien held a win over Herring and Cruz held a win over Mir, they were no pushovers. And then there's the Werdum fight. I feel Arlovski was never endangered of losing this fight. Werdum was overwelmed with Arloski's striking, and he is the one who made it a bad fight, not trying to engage Arlovski, who was clearly in control.:thumbsup Arlovski however, was treated as a fighter on the downside of his career in the UFC, and slipped out of main event contention. Was this fair?

[scurlaruntings]

AA would beat Mir.Im not on the Mir bandwagon but you can forget about that. If this was Mir just after he's accident i may have agreed with you. But not taking into account he's win over Big Nog and on peak form Mir takes him down and subs him in no time. AA isnt a slouch on he's back but mentally the guy isnt strong enough. He doesnt have that fire in he's belly. All looks and no real substance. Its all well and good looking like one of Leonidas soldiers but the dude has to fight like one. Pitbull my ass.

[scurlaruntings]

If AA was American, British or had a lucrative market to sell the AA brand to they would have treated him differently. If AA would act like a complete prick like Junie Browing he would be appreciated more by American fans.

Arlovski doesn't have any bad losses, he was the UFC champion, he has skills and if he was in the UFC he would be one of the more dangerous fighter. The reason I think the UFC treated him like they did is because they hyped him and hyped him saying he is "unbeatable" and when he lost they marketed him wrong and thought "we can market Lesner like AA because he is bigger and people know who he is"
AA doesnt have any bad losses? Are you serious? :blood

[MaliSlamusrex]

Who are his losses.

Fedor- everyone looses to Fedor.

Sylvia- Ex Champion who has beaten everyone accept for Fedor, Nogueria, Mir and Coture.... you can't really argue with that.

Pedro Rizzo - only fought the best fighters and he has beaten barnet, Severn and Coleman when they were the best.


AA doesnt have any bad losses? Are you serious? :blood

[AJAX]

I still hope AA can get back to the UFC, when he left Dana said he would be welcome back. But I'm not sure after his last brutall loss when he'll be back, he still has the tools to beat anyone but I can see him going back into his shell just like after his second Sylvia fight. Not to mention his boxing which he is going to try...as far as I know.

[scurlaruntings]

Who are his losses.

Fedor- everyone looses to Fedor.

Sylvia- Ex Champion who has beaten everyone accept for Fedor, Nogueria, Mir and Coture.... you can't really argue with that.

Pedro Rizzo - only fought the best fighters and he has beaten barnet, Severn and Coleman when they were the best.Sylvia has beaten everyone but who?!?!? You actually believe he's career ledger is a who's who list? I mean cabbge, Lambert, Monson etc are second rate heavies at best. There hardly a who's who list. That being said even when Tim was the UFC heavy champ it was abundantly clear he didnt have the skils to hang with most of PRIDE's heavyweights or the best heavies in the world which were not in the UFC.

Anyway pretty much all of AA's losses have come by KO. He lost he's debut to that headcase Datsik with a stunning KO and that has pretty much been the sum of he's career. A nearly man who was only ever good enough to beat second rate heavies and il include Tim in that list :yep

[MaliSlamusrex]

Well not everyone can be Fedor, his record is solid enough.

Sylvia has beaten everyone but who?!?!? You actually believe he's career ledger is a who's who list? I mean cabbge, Lambert, Monson etc are second rate heavies at best. There hardly a who's who list. That being said even when Tim was the UFC heavy champ it was abundantly clear he didnt have the skils to hang with most of PRIDE's heavyweights or the best heavies in the world which were not in the UFC.

Anyway pretty much all of AA's losses have come by KO. He lost he's debut to that headcase Datsik with a stunning KO and that has pretty much been the sum of he's career. A nearly man who was only ever good enough to beat second rate heavies and il include Tim in that list :yep

[OuterDrake]

Arlovski appreciation thread

[scurlaruntings]

Arlovski appreciation thread:bart

[brandon9624]

Started this thread because I've dissed AA in the past, but it was uncalled for.
2nd rate or not, how many guys have gotten their first ko loss at the hands of Arlovski? And even in his second fight with Sylvia, that right hand he cracked Sylvia with would have knocked out a bear, I don't know how Sylvia survived.
And that flying knee he attempted on Fedor, Irvin knocked out Terry Martin and Anderson Silva kod Newton with a flying knee on guy shooting for take down, Fedor just countered it perfectly.

[MaliSlamusrex]

I am with you, AA career is going fine, you could even argue his carrer is quite similar to Couture's so far. Arlovski get's more shit than any other HW.

Started this thread because I've dissed AA in the past, but it was uncalled for.
2nd rate or not, how many guys have gotten their first ko loss at the hands of Arlovski? And even in his second fight with Sylvia, that right hand he cracked Sylvia with would have knocked out a bear, I don't know how Sylvia survived.
And that flying knee he attempted on Fedor, Irvin knocked out Terry Martin and Anderson Silva kod Newton with a flying knee on guy shooting for take down, Fedor just countered it perfectly.

[QuestionKid7]

Arlovski is a great fighter if you watched his fedor fight his stand up was amazing he simply got over zealous. His ground is iffy but whatever.

On the UFC topic I am pretty sure he left on his own accord to get paid 10x as much in affliction haha...

He had three straight wins in the UFC before he left

He is now moving on to boxing, while being trained by Freddie Roach. I for one am excited to see how he does I think he can do quite well.

[AJAX]

Why is AA's ground game iffy...when has he ever lost a fight from the ground? it's getting ktfo that has been his prob.

[thebrodstar]

Thats what happens when you've been told a thousand times he has a great standup. I dont think AA even knows what Sambo is anymore.

You know what? Your right, when he ended up on the ground in the EXC fight he had terrible defense, I couldn't believe my eyes. I am kind of excited to see him in boxing, he is one MMA fighter I would give a shot at having at least a moderate career in boxing.

[brandon9624]

I just rewatched the Fedor fight and Fedor didn't seem to have an answer for Arlovski's speed, Fedor looked worried, then the flying knee incident. No need for a rematch though, AA has felt Fedor's ko power and would probably be too cautious to engage the fight. What a shame.