Ireland V UK

[boxingwriter]

OK, this is just for fun so nobody get their knickers in a twist but if there was an Ireland V UK pro boxing competition, who would win?

Here's the line up and who I see winning :

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Rogan by KO (yes I'm serious!)
Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods on Points
Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch by TKO
Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Lee by KO
Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - Moore on points
Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Junior Witter - McCloskey on points
Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Haughian on points
Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray points
Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns on Points
Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appeleby - Lyndsay TKO
Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne on points
Bantamweight - Paul Hyland V Ian Napa - Hyland on Points

For my take I see it 7-5 for Ireland (in my kinda biased but still realistic view), but I'm sure others will disagree!

Amended post, we still edge it for my money!

[ishy]

Haye at HW? Froch at SMW? Hatton or Witter at LWW? Where are they?

You could have Macklin on the Irish side at MW (he considers himself Irish) and he would be more likely to beat Barker than Lee.

Very biased post!

[Grievesy]

Haye at HW? Froch at SMW? Hatton or Witter at LWW? Where are they?

You could have Macklin on the Irish side at MW (he considers himself Irish) and he would be more likely to beat Barker than Lee.

Very biased post!

My thoughts exactly. You can't just leave out the UK's best fighters.

[dwilson]

The Hylands are poor in reality but they have a good back story so will continue to get a push and offered soft opponents.

[boxingwriter]

My thoughts exactly. You can't just leave out the UK's best fighters.

Haye, Witter and Hatton are or were world champions. It is not biased, I matched guys up according to the levels they are currently at in there careers.

[ishy]

Haye, Witter and Hatton are or were world champions. It is not biased, I matched guys up according to the levels they are currently at in there careers.

:lol: You said Ireland v UK, nothing about matching these guys according to levels. What you're doing is Frank ****** style matchmaking. There's also no matches at WW and LHW. I wonder why? ;)

[boxingwriter]

The Hylands are poor in reality but they have a good back story so will continue to get a push and offered soft opponents.

Patrick and Paul Hyland are not poor! They just need better opposition which is coming. Eddie on the other hand....

[boxingwriter]

:lol: You said Ireland v UK. What you're doing is Frank ****** style matchmaking.

But you still can't match up world champions like Haye with novices like Rogan, come on!!!

[ishy]

But you still can't match up world champions like Haye with novices like Rogan, come on!!!

This reminds of a thread some guy started on the General, UK v USA and he had match ups like Paul Williams v Kell Brook :lol:

[boxingwriter]

This reminds of a thread some guy started on the General, UK v USA and he had match ups like Paul Williams v Kell Brook :lol:

I changed it to include your best guys, I still see Ireland edging it.
Note that a lot of the UK boxers have more experience than the Irish guys, so it's not exactly unfair match ups.

[ishy]

I changed it to include your best guys, I still see Ireland edging it.
Note that a lot of the UK boxers have more experience than the Irish guys, so it's not exactly unfair match ups.

:lol::lol::good

[dwilson]

Patrick and Paul Hyland are not poor! They just need better opposition which is coming. Eddie on the other hand....


They are poor compared to the opponents listed against in this thread. Saw Paddy fight an awful Ukrainian in Barnsley, he was gifted a win that was disgusting.

[boxingwriter]

They are poor compared to the opponents listed against in this thread. Saw Paddy fight an awful Ukrainian in Barnsley, he was gifted a win that was disgusting.

I think you're talking about Paul, that was the fight before the scheduled EBU shot against Napa, I think he let the pressure get to him. He is a very good technical boxer though, I could see him easily out pointing Napa much like Bouziane did.

[dwilson]

I think you're talking about Paul, that was the fight before the scheduled EBU shot against Napa, I think he let the pressure get to him. He is a very good technical boxer though, I could see him easily out pointing Napa much like Bouziane did.



I have never liked Napa and would support Paul in this fight but from what I have seen of him he has very little chance of a win. He is ok technically but not upto top level domestic standard even in this day and age where we have a real lack of depth in the division.

I could have sworn it was Paddy who fought that night. The Irish fans kept shouting paddy at him, well until it looked like he had lost the fight.

[bored]

Why have you missed out light heavy and welter? 2 of the sports most important divisions but you ignore them. Why don't you just ignore all the divisions where you are picking Brit fighters then.

[boxingwriter]

I have never liked Napa and would support Paul in this fight but from what I have seen of him he has very little chance of a win. He is ok technically but not upto top level domestic standard even in this day and age where we have a real lack of depth in the division.

I could have sworn it was Paddy who fought that night. The Irish fans kept shouting paddy at him, well until it looked like he had lost the fight.

Paddy just fought a guy in the US for the IBF Intercontinental title or something like that and put on a great performance.
I think he will suprise a few people in the coming months with how good he actually is becoming.
Paul is a lot like Dunne skillwise, but needs some more power if he is to really go far.
Eddie is the least talented of the trio in my opinion.

[boxingwriter]

Why have you missed out light heavy and welter? 2 of the sports most important divisions but you ignore them. Why don't you just ignore all the divisions where you are picking Brit fighters then.

My mistake, it's been a long day! Changed it, again!

[fenian 67]

as an irishman i hate saying this but imho kell brook kos stephen haughian

[boxingwriter]

as an irishman i hate saying this but imho kell brook kos stephen haughian

I disagree, the last 2 guys he KO'd one had been stopped 4 times and the other 3 times previously, I think his power is overrated to be honest.

[BremnerBomber]

OK, this is just for fun so nobody get their knickers in a twist but if there was an Ireland V UK pro boxing competition, who would win?

Here's the line up and who I see winning :

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Rogan by KO (yes I'm serious!)
Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods on Points
Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch by TKO
Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Lee by KO
Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - Moore on points
Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Junior Witter - McCloskey on points
Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Haughian on points
Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray points
Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns on Points
Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appeleby - Lyndsay TKO
Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne on points
Bantamweight - Paul Hyland V Ian Napa - Hyland on Points

For my take I see it 7-5 for Ireland (in my kinda biased but still realistic view), but I'm sure others will disagree!

Amended post, we still edge it for my money!



Hmmmmm

Very dodgy..... tell me how you have McCloskey beating Witter (or Hatton)

and Haye losing to Rogan..... Haye is Elite, Rogan is not simple as

[boxingwriter]

Hmmmmm

Very dodgy..... tell me how you have McCloskey beating Witter (or Hatton)

Dodgy??? The undefeated British Champion Paul McCloskey has every chance of beating the Witter who recently lost a split decision to Timothy Bradley, is 6 years his senior, and who went the full 12 rounds with Lynes when McCloskey had him out of there in 7!

[boxingwriter]

Hmmmmm

Very dodgy..... tell me how you have McCloskey beating Witter (or Hatton)

and Haye losing to Rogan..... Haye is Elite, Rogan is not simple as

Haye has never been in with a guy like Rogan. I truly believe Rogan would stop the "elite" Haye! Like I said don't go getting all worked up, we are all entitled to our opinions.

[BremnerBomber]

Dodgy??? The undefeated British Champion Paul McCloskey has every chance of beating the Witter who recently lost a split decision to Timothy Bradley, is 6 years his senior, and who went the full 12 rounds with Lynes when McCloskey had him out of there in 7!


That proves nothing apart from that Witter is World Class and McCloskey is not..... Has McCloskey ever fought anyone like Bradley, Kotelnik, Harris, N'dou, Corley ??

[boxingwriter]

That proves nothing apart from that Witter is World Class and McCloskey is not..... Has McCloskey ever fought anyone like Bradley, Kotelnik, Harris, N'dou, Corley ??

Witters time has been and gone, McCloskey's time is just coming. You cannot state that McCloskey is not world class until he fights world class opposition now can you??

[riggers]

Haye batters Rogan
Hide batters any cruiser
Woods batters any Light heavy
Froch ditton
Middleweight close, i would favour Barker just
Moore too good
Haughian to beat Brooks ?? i doubt it , i think Brooks is a star in the making

I can seea few irish wins but i think you are still high after Dunnes amazing win.

[BremnerBomber]

Witters time has been and gone, McCloskey's time is just coming. You cannot state that McCloskey is not world class until he fights world class opposition now can you??


But Witter is proven World Class ..... McCloskey is not

Still no explanation on how the fight plays out !!

Even if Witter does lose, Hatton would eat him up

[Paddy]

This reminds of a thread some guy started on the General, UK v USA and he had match ups like Paul Williams v Kell Brook :lol:
ppffft

who would want to see williams-brook

the only fight that would make sense would be williams-mutley!!!

[boxingwriter]

Haye batters Rogan
Hide batters any cruiser
Woods batters any Light heavy
Froch ditton
Middleweight close, i would favour Barker just
Moore too good
Haughian to beat Brooks ?? i doubt it , i think Brooks is a star in the making

I can seea few irish wins but i think you are still high after Dunnes amazing win.

Yeah ok, I knew the mere thought of the Irish guys getting the better of the UK lads would provoke a few condecsending comments like that. At least we have something to be high about!

[BremnerBomber]

Yeah ok, I knew the mere thought of the Irish guys getting the better of the UK lads would provoke a few condecsending comments like that. At least we have something to be high about!


:rofl

Yeh thats exactly it

You post a UK Vs Ireland thread.... Miss out the best UK Boxers, then when you do put them in you have them lose to Domestic level boxers !!! :-(


Nothing to be High about

Haye v Wlad

Hatton v Manny

Froch v Taylor

:patsch

[MattMattMatt]

Yeah ok, I knew the mere thought of the Irish guys getting the better of the UK lads would provoke a few condecsending comments like that.

This thread is bizarre. I have nothing against Irish guys beating Brits, but making a thread where you basically pick Irelands best against a random selection of British fighters just makes no sense. I just cannot see what the point is, what does it show us? That that top level Irish are better than some of Britains 'non-best' fighters. How odd.

At least we have something to be high about! Not quite sure what you mean by that given that one of our fighters is challenging the #1 heavyweight in the world and another is challenging the #1 P4P fighter in the world.

[boxingwriter]

:rofl

Yeh thats exactly it

You post a UK Vs Ireland thread.... Miss out the best UK Boxers, then when you do put them in you have them lose to Domestic level boxers !!! :-(


Nothing to be High about

Haye v Wlad

Hatton v Manny

Froch v Taylor

:patsch

So you are high on the fact that your 3 boys are going to get KO'd?!!
Only kidding dude! Like I said these are my opinions you can disagree but I can still have my opinion can't I?

[boxingwriter]

This thread is bizarre. I have nothing against Irish guys beating Brits, but making a thread where you basically pick Irelands best against a random selection of British fighters just makes no sense. I just cannot see what the point is, what does it show us? That that top level Irish are better than some of Britains 'non-best' fighters. How odd.

Not quite sure what you mean by that given that one of our fighters is challenging the #1 heavyweight in the world and another is challenging the #1 P4P fighter in the world.

I actually took the top guys off boxrecs ratings for most of the match ups, what is bizarre about that???
Jesus you lads take things way to seriously!

[MattMattMatt]

UK v Ireland:

Haye KO Colin Kenna
Hide KO Jonathan O'Brien
Woods KO John Waldron
Froch KO Joe Rea
etc..

Woo! 100% Victory!

[BremnerBomber]

So you are high on the fact that your 3 boys are going to get KO'd?!!
Only kidding dude! Like I said these are my opinions you can disagree but I can still have my opinion can't I?


But you said Quote " But You can't have novices like Rogan fighting guys like Haye"

Then you have Rogan winning :huh

Looks like a WUM thread to me

[boxingwriter]

UK v Ireland:

Haye KO Colin Kenna
Hide KO Jonathan O'Brien
Woods KO John Waldron
Froch KO Joe Rea
etc..

Woo! 100% Victory!

You're an idiot, some of these match ups are eithering happening or were meant to happen. One actually did happen!!!
Magee V Froch - already fought
Duddy V Moore - talked about as a possible future fight
Hyland V Napa - was scheduled
Munroe V Dunne - possible fight
Lynday V Appleby - is actually happening
McCloskey V Witter - is actually happening

Now if this is not a good representation of Ireland V Uk, what is???

[boxingwriter]

But you said Quote " But You can't have novices like Rogan fighting guys like Haye"

Then you have Rogan winning :huh

Looks like a WUM thread to me

I still think Rogan would KO Haye, I originally tried to match up guys according to experience/level but that was not good enough for you was it? That's not to say I don't think a guy at domestic level could not beat someone like Haye, especially as Haye has fought most of his career at cruiserweight.
Would Haye take Rogans constant pressure, I don't think so, but again it's just my opinion!!

[MattMattMatt]

You're an idiot, some of these match ups are eithering happening or were meant to happen. One actually did happen!!!
Magee V Froch - already fought
Duddy V Moore - talked about as a possible future fight
Hyland V Napa - was scheduled
Munroe V Dunne - possible fight
Lynday V Appleby - is actually happening
McCloskey V Witter - is actually happening

Now if this is not a good representation of Ireland V UL, what is???
Don't call me an idiot. I'm only going by what you said in your original post, there was no mention of these fights being selected because they may have been talked about.

OK, this is just for fun so nobody get their knickers in a twist but if there was an Ireland V UK pro boxing competition, who would win?

Yes, I admit I have already got my knickers in a twist. But, you did just say Ireland v UK boxing competition - not how would these fights that might have happened turned out.;) Hence the tirade of comments from UK posters wondering why you missed out their best boxers in this...

[SouthpawSlayer]

as an Irishman im proud of our boxers on the pro stage but to put our best against the uk's best where they have a very good level of boxing also we are gonna lose i cant say anymore, we would have a few wins which imo is still very good

my main problem boxing writer is david haye losing to rogan i read in disbelief sorry brother

[boxingwriter]

Don't call me an idiot. I'm only going by what you said in your original post, there was no mention of these fights being selected because they may have been talked about.



Yes, I admit I have already got my knickers in a twist. But, you did just say Ireland v UK boxing competition - not how would these fights that might have happened turned out.;) Hence the tirade of comments from UK posters wondering why you missed out their best boxers in this...

OK you're not an idiot, thats what I meant by Ireland V UK.

[MattMattMatt]

OK you're not an idiot, thats what I meant by Ireland V UK.
OK, that's alright then.:p

[boxingwriter]

as an Irishman im proud of our boxers on the pro stage but to put our best against the uk's best where they have a very good level of boxing also we are gonna lose i cant say anymore, we would have a few wins which imo is still very good

my main problem boxing writer is david haye losing to rogan i read in disbelief sorry brother

I know most people would say wtf Rogan beating Haye but take a look at the threads after Rogan won the commonwealth title, people were singing a different tune then!

As for our best V their best, this thread was meant more as a predition on how certain fights between our boxers and their's would pan out as there are quite a few Ireland V England match ups in the pipeline. We haven't even scratched the surface of the talent in our country so Ireland's best V UKs best will be a better question in a few years time when our guys are really firing! Just remember we only have a pool of 5 million to choose from as opposed to UK's 70 million so were not doing too bad!

[SouthpawSlayer]

I know most people would say wtf Rogan beating Haye but take a look at the threads after Rogan won the commonwealth title, people were singing a different tune then!

As for our best V their best, this thread was meant more as a predition on how certain fights between our boxers and their's would do against each other as there are quite a few Ireland V England match ups in the pipeline.

as for rogie haye, they are at completely different levels and although his win against skelton was great haye is no matt skelton,

at the moment irish boxing is at the best i can ever remember in my lifetime and we would have some good wins :good

[BremnerBomber]

I know most people would say wtf Rogan beating Haye but take a look at the threads after Rogan won the commonwealth title, people were singing a different tune then!

As for our best V their best, this thread was meant more as a predition on how certain fights between our boxers and their's would pan out as there are quite a few Ireland V England match ups in the pipeline. We haven't even scratched the surface of the talent in our country so Ireland's best V UKs best will be a better question in a few years time when our guys are really firing! Just remember we only have a pool of 5 million to choose from as opposed to UK's 70 million so were not doing too bad!


What do you want a medal ??

[cool-cat]

i think duddy would be to much for moore duddy looked very good last time out

[boxingwriter]

What do you want a medal ??

What??!!

[D-MAC]

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Haye

Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods

Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch

Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Lee

Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - Moore

Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Junior Witter - McCloskey

Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Brook

Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray

Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns

Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appeleby - Lyndsay

Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne

Bantamweight - Paul Hyland V Ian Napa - Napa

UK - 8
Ireland - 4

[boxingwriter]

i think duddy would be to much for moore duddy looked very good last time out

I would give it to Moore cos Duddy has not yet been tested at light middle yet but he is looking good latley.

[BremnerBomber]

What??!!


Do you want a medal ??.... for having a small population and a few good fighters, Should we bow down to Irelands boxing superority over the UK

[boxingwriter]

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Haye

Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods

Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch

Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Lee

Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - Moore

Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Junior Witter - McCloskey

Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Brook

Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray

Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns

Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appeleby - Lyndsay

Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne

Bantamweight - Paul Hyland V Ian Napa - Napa

UK - 8
Ireland - 4

OK, I see where your going. Finally a proper response!

[somerset]

Whos Haughian?

[boxingwriter]

Do you want a medal ??.... for having a small population and a few good fighters, Should we bow down to Irelands boxing superority over the UK

You have issues mate! I said it's just a bit of fun but you obviously have a chip on your shoulder.

[boxingwriter]

Whos Haughian?

Stephen Haughian, 17-1-0, trains in Breens Gym with McCloskey and Rogan.

[onourway]

Why are people leaving out Hatton and putting Witter in......and then saying Witter loses.

Put Hatton in, clear UK victory.

[BremnerBomber]

You have issues mate! I said it's just a bit of fun but you obviously have a chip on your shoulder.


:rofl

Get out of it

I have no time for these silly Country Vs Country crap espcially when the poster has Domestic level boxers beating World Class boxers

For what it's worth I would have UK 9 - 3 Ireland in your best case scenario but you have a smaller population and your fighters haven't matured yet so Ireland is the best country in the World

[boxingwriter]

Why are people leaving out Hatton and putting Witter in......and then saying Witter loses.

Put Hatton in, clear UK victory.

Like I said before I was trying to match up guys evenly, and McCloskey and Witter are actually fighting so it makes sense.

[boxingwriter]

:rofl

Get out of it

I have no time for these silly Country Vs Country crap espcially when the poster has Domestic level boxers beating World Class boxers

For what it's worth I would have UK 9 - 3 Ireland in your best case scenario but you have a smaller population and your fighters haven't matured yet so Ireland is the best country in the World

If you have no time for threads like these, don't comment simple as that! Bernard Dunne was called domestic level a few weeks ago by a lot of people on the British forum, now he is a world champion. Stranger things have happened than a domestic level guy beating a world class boxer, how do you think they become world class.
All the boxers you think are so shit hot, Haye, Witter, etc were all domestic level once weren't they?!

[apps1]

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Haye

Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods

Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch

Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Barker

Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - duddy

Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Junior Witter - witter

Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Brook

Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray

Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns

Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appleby - Appleby

Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne

[boxingwriter]

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Haye

Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods

Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch

Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Barker

Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - duddy

Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Junior Witter - witter

Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Brook

Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray

Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns

Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appleby - Appleby

Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne

And I thought I was biased!

[apps1]

wht do you mean boxing writer ???

[boxingwriter]

wht do you mean boxing writer ???

10-2 for UK?!

[apps1]

i seriously only know that paul and david haye are british lol wasnt a hundred per cent sure about the rest just havin a guess on the rest sorry !!! and would you not say u are biased
It doesnt matter where a boxer is from just how good there ability is

[SouthpawSlayer]

:rofl

Get out of it

I have no time for these silly Country Vs Country crap espcially when the poster has Domestic level boxers beating World Class boxers

For what it's worth I would have UK 9 - 3 Ireland in your best case scenario but you have a smaller population and your fighters haven't matured yet so Ireland is the best country in the World

i knew it, im glad someone agrees with me

know lets make an ireland v puerto rico thread:bbb:bbb

[boxingwriter]

i seriously only know that paul and david haye are british lol wasnt a hundred per cent sure about the rest just havin a guess on the rest sorry !!! and would you not say u are biased
It doesnt matter where a boxer is from just how good there ability is

Fair enough. And yes I am a bit biased but I still stand by my choices!

[trotter]

Good lord boxingwriter

This is the worst conceived, most badly explained idea I have ever, ever come across

Absolutely bananas

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't a rabble rousing attempt but it was pretty bizarre

[boxingwriter]

i knew it, im glad someone agrees with me

know lets make an ireland v puerto rico thread:bbb:bbb

Puerto Rico? Bring it on! Seriously though just looking on Wiki, they have 58 world champs with a population of just 4 million and 8 current world champions!

[apps1]

yeah me too i think haye will defo win and also paul and i completely stand by that , the rest i am a little sure if thats ok . In my defence i had a bit of help with the others !

[SouthpawSlayer]

Puerto Rico? Bring it on! Seriously though just looking on Wiki, they have 58 world champs with a population of just 4 million and 8 current world champions!

i know unbelievable

[boxingwriter]

Good lord boxingwriter

This is the worst conceived, most badly explained idea I have ever, ever come across

Absolutely bananas

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't a rabble rousing attempt but it was pretty bizarre

Lol, I knew I'd get this response but was not trying to provoke you guys, which is quite easy I might add.

People called me crazy when I said Rogan would beat Audley and Skelton and when I said Dunne would stop Cordoba.
Bizarre? Nah, just confident and maybe a little hopeful.

If that is the most bizarre thing you have ever read, you have lead a sheltered life methinks.

[TFFP]

OK, this is just for fun so nobody get their knickers in a twist but if there was an Ireland V UK pro boxing competition, who would win?

Here's the line up and who I see winning :

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Rogan by KO (yes I'm serious!)
Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods on Points
Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch by TKO
Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Lee by KO
Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - Moore on points
Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Junior Witter - McCloskey on points
Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Haughian on points
Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray points
Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns on Points
Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appeleby - Lyndsay TKO
Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne on points
Bantamweight - Paul Hyland V Ian Napa - Hyland on Points

For my take I see it 7-5 for Ireland (in my kinda biased but still realistic view), but I'm sure others will disagree!

Amended post, we still edge it for my money!
I would only favour Dunne and McCloskey of those I've seen.

Can't comment on Haughan and Hyland, just not seen enough to pick those.

[apps1]

there are alot of good boxers from ireland and the uk

[boxingwriter]

i thought this was all in good spirits this discussion thread !!!

It's supposed to be!

[SouthpawSlayer]

there are too many controversial opinions for this to be good natured, unfortunately nationalism comes into play no matter how hard someone trys to be fair

[apps1]

ireland does have some unbelieveably talented boxers and then so does the uk but there are also alot of completely overrated boxers not big on boxing knowledge but no a little

[boxingwriter]

there are too many controversial opinions for this to be good natured, unfortunately nationalism comes into play no matter how hard someone trys to be fair

Yeah I suppose so but we should be able to discuss Ireland V UK or whatever else without all that, it's all just banter and different opinions, like I said we are all entitled to our opinions as crazy or controversial as they may sound to others.

[boxingwriter]

ireland does have some unbelieveably talented boxers and then so does the uk but there are also alot of completely overrated boxers not big on boxing knowledge but no a little

I agree there are some great talents on both sides.

[apps1]

there are too many controversial opinions for this to be good natured, unfortunately nationalism comes into play no matter how hard someone trys to be fairi know have read a few of the responses on here and it kind of gets a little heated we are all the same boxing fans !

[SouthpawSlayer]

i know have read a few of the responses on here and it kind of gets a little heated we are all the same boxing fans !

yeah i dont agree with it tbh, when it comes to boxing im just a fan of the sport and where a fighter originates from never comes into account, as an irishman i have no problem in admitting i am huge fan of english and uk fighters and have forked out on money for memoribilia and trips to england to see em

[apps1]

a bit nuts ehhh the way i see it when two boxers go into the ring no matter wht happens in the ring they are always gentlemen afterwards and it has no bearing on them where the opponent has come from , i am from scotland but i have a lot of respect for alot of other fighters from all parts of the world but it usually doesnt cross my mind where they are from jst enjoy the show they put on

[doug.ie]

yeah i dont agree with it tbh, when it comes to boxing im just a fan of the sport and where a fighter originates from never comes into account, as an irishman i have no problem in admitting i am huge fan of english and uk fighters and have forked out on money for memoribilia and trips to england to see em

same as that mate ^^ :good

[TommyV]

OK, this is just for fun so nobody get their knickers in a twist but if there was an Ireland V UK pro boxing competition, who would win?

Here's the line up and who I see winning :

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Rogan by KO (yes I'm serious!)
Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods on Points
Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch by TKO
Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Lee by KO
Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - Moore on points
Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Junior Witter - McCloskey on points
Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Haughian on points
Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray points
Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns on Points
Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appeleby - Lyndsay TKO
Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne on points
Bantamweight - Paul Hyland V Ian Napa - Hyland on Points

For my take I see it 7-5 for Ireland (in my kinda biased but still realistic view), but I'm sure others will disagree!

Amended post, we still edge it for my money!
Napa, Brook, Haye, Witter and Appleby would/will all win. Ridiculously biased.

[pathmanc1986]

jesus christ, biased or not dont shit all over the guy for putting an opinion out there,

we all meant to be boxing fans yet boxingwriter writes some shit you dont agree with

and every c&nt jumps on his ass like a pack of dogs which results in irish fellas defending

their fighters in some stupid situations. come back and say well cant see that happening

and then shit over his point with boxing arguments. not shit like "what you want a medal"

UK obviously overall better but some of these fights might be closer than you think.

p4p? might have to go with ireland

[rossd1506]

Only Dunne picks up a win for the irish for me im afraid. What happened to the fighting Irish???

[jonnytightlips]

Haye would beat rogan handiliy.Woods would stop Rock. I think Duddy would just shade Moore but would be a good fight.

[greengloves]

i have lee,duddy,mccloskey,haughian,lindsay and dunne winning on the irish side so that makes it what 6-6 but to be honest hatton should be in the lww bit so makes it 7-5.

[JonOli]

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Rogan by KO!



He could drive Haye's taxi to the venue I suppose.

[apps1]

jesus christ, biased or not dont shit all over the guy for putting an opinion out there,

we all meant to be boxing fans yet boxingwriter writes some shit you dont agree with

and every c&nt jumps on his ass like a pack of dogs which results in irish fellas defending

their fighters in some stupid situations. come back and say well cant see that happening

and then shit over his point with boxing arguments. not shit like "what you want a medal"

UK obviously overall better but some of these fights might be closer than you think.

p4p? might have to go with irelandeveryone is allowed there own opinion just gettin a tad bit heated on here lol

[bored]

Don't know if it would make any difference but i'd have McEwan over Barker. In fact McEwan-Lee would be a good fight I think.

[riggers]

Yeah ok, I knew the mere thought of the Irish guys getting the better of the UK lads would provoke a few condecsending comments like that. At least we have something to be high about!

Was not being condescending. As others said Haye is world class and Rogan is not. Witter and Hatton are proven and McCloskey is not. Froch is. Barker is unproven so is Lee. Dunne made us all fans the other night, Munroe may not beat him, but in my opinion has a much better chance than McCloskey or Rogan. Particularly if you look at their head to head results. But you are right i am sure in a head to head the UK would come out far on top. Thats just my opinion, based on fighters not nationality

[lucatoni08]

Here's my choice. I'm Irish, but i'm trying not to be biased

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Haye by KO
Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods on Points
Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch by TKO
Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Lee by TKO
Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - Duddy on points
Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Ricky Hatton - Hatton TKO
Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Brook TKO
Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray points
Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns on Points
Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appeleby - Lyndsay TKO
Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne on points
Bantamweight - Paul Hyland V Ian Napa - Hyland on Points

I give that 7-5 UK

[fenian 67]

Here's my choice. I'm Irish, but i'm trying not to be biased

Heavyweight - Martin Rogan V David Haye - Haye by KO
Light Heavyweight - Jim Rock V Clinton Woods - Woods on Points
Super Middleweight - Brian Magee V Carl Froch - Froch by TKO
Middleweight - Andy Lee V Darren Barker - Lee by TKO
Light middleweight - John Duddy V Jamie Moore - Duddy on points
Light welterweight - Paul McCloskey V Ricky Hatton - Hatton TKO
Welterweight - Stephen Haughian V Kell Brook - Brook TKO
Lightweight - Andrew Murray V John Murray - J Murray points
Super Featherweight - Patrick Hyland V Ricky Burns - Burns on Points
Featherweight - Martin Lyndsay V Paul Appeleby - Lyndsay TKO
Super Bantamweight - Bernard Dunne V Rendall Munroe - Dunne on points
Bantamweight - Paul Hyland V Ian Napa - Hyland on Points

I give that 7-5 UK
im irish as well.i got it
haye ko win
woods ud win
froch ud win
lee ud win
moore ud win
brook ko win
hatton ko win
j murray ud win
burns ud win
lyndsey ud win
dunne tko win
hyland ud win
8-4 brits unfortunately

[pathmanc1986]

im irish as well.i got it
haye ko win
woods ud win
froch ud win
lee ud win
moore ud win
brook ko win
hatton ko win
j murray ud win
burns ud win
lyndsey ud win
dunne tko win
hyland ud win
8-4 brits unfortunately


another irishman here and your about spot on there. close on the appelby-lindsay fight (i think both these are destined for much much bigger things than british title) and duddy-moore based on duddys improvement under pat burns makes it 50-50


also you brits have to give us rogan-haye! go on, admit it. you'd (and i) would love to see haye become HW champ and then rogan ko him after getting up off the ground 5 times:bbb

[moorser]

im irish and im no way biased but defintley have it 9 - 3 to ireland

rogan ko
woods points
froch ko
lee ko
duddy points
haughian points
mccloskey points
j murray points( hes irish btw ) moss side irish
hyland ko
lyndsay ko
dunne ko
hyland points

rogan will put 1 on glass jaw haye who is overated heavy . klitschko will make a show of him
woods would batter rock
froch already batterd magee
lee would ko barker no problem
duddy and moore would be foty but duddy would just edge it
haghian would have to much for brook who is well overated ( next big thing ? )
mccloskey style bamboolezels everyone at lww even hatton
john murray smashes andy murray
hyland too much for burns . if gomez can rough him up hyland can ko him
lyndsay kos appelby . too strong for him , appelby is still a boy compared to lyndsay
dunne too skillfull for munroe
hyland too much for napa which was proved a few weeks ago (napa is a flyweight )

[BremnerBomber]

im irish and im no way biased but defintley have it 9 - 3 to ireland

rogan ko
woods points
froch ko
lee ko
duddy points
haughian points
mccloskey points
j murray points( hes irish btw ) moss side irish
hyland ko
lyndsay ko
dunne ko
hyland points

rogan will put 1 on glass jaw haye who is overated heavy . klitschko will make a show of him
woods would batter rock
froch already batterd magee
lee would ko barker no problem
duddy and moore would be foty but duddy would just edge it
haghian would have to much for brook who is well overated ( next big thing ? )
mccloskey style bamboolezels everyone at lww even hatton
john murray smashes andy murray
hyland too much for burns . if gomez can rough him up hyland can ko him
lyndsay kos appelby . too strong for him , appelby is still a boy compared to lyndsay
dunne too skillfull for munroe
hyland too much for napa which was proved a few weeks ago (napa is a flyweight )


:rofl

[moorser]

:rofl

and we would have you in football 1-0

[BremnerBomber]

and we would have you in football 1-0


And we would kill you in Hurling :yep

[bored]

im irish and im no way biased but defintley have it 9 - 3 to ireland

rogan ko
woods points
froch ko
lee ko
duddy points
haughian points
mccloskey points
j murray points( hes irish btw ) moss side irish
hyland ko
lyndsay ko
dunne ko
hyland points

rogan will put 1 on glass jaw haye who is overated heavy . klitschko will make a show of him
woods would batter rock
froch already batterd magee
lee would ko barker no problem
duddy and moore would be foty but duddy would just edge it
haghian would have to much for brook who is well overated ( next big thing ? )
mccloskey style bamboolezels everyone at lww even hatton
john murray smashes andy murray
hyland too much for burns . if gomez can rough him up hyland can ko him
lyndsay kos appelby . too strong for him , appelby is still a boy compared to lyndsay
dunne too skillfull for munroe
hyland too much for napa which was proved a few weeks ago (napa is a flyweight )
:lol: I knew you lot had a reputation for drinking but still.

[lucatoni08]

I'm generally an optimistic person, but moorser mate, you take the biscuit here!!

[nicofly]

:lol::lol:

What a shit biased post that was....

I cant even be bothered to amend your list as I disagee with the majority of it...

[Rebel 09]

And we would kill you in Hurling :yep

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl