View Full Version : Barrera and his leagacy
peter5
08-24-2007, 09:21 AM
Does losing to Pac again have any effect on his legacy, Personally I dont think it does, what do you lot think? And does it boost Pacs, or will it just go down as a win over an old Marco?
Guru_Too_You
08-24-2007, 09:24 AM
Does losing to Pac again have any effect on his legacy, Personally I dont think it does, what do you lot think? And does it boost Pacs, or will it just go down as a win over an old Marco?
Barrera's legacy can only be enhanced at this point.
knockout
08-24-2007, 09:33 AM
Barrera's legacy can only be enhanced at this point.True and pacs victory will be over a old wash up Barrera when he could of gone after Marquez.
koko of phil
08-24-2007, 10:04 AM
It would be much better if Marco wins, but I think it doesn't change anything even if he loses. Barrera already made history in this sport before Pac came. Though everyone knows MAB was already far different from his old self after or even the first time he fought Pac, still no one could deny his immense accomplishments in this sport of boxing. Another victory of Pacquiao over Marco only confirms the arrival of new promising fighters, like Guzman, Soto, Valero, etc. For me, I'll just see it as a bequeathal.
brooklyn1550
08-24-2007, 11:14 AM
Barrera's legacy is already set as an ATG. A loss means he is another of many greats to have a bad fight or two at the very end, but a win does him wonders.
PH|LLA
08-24-2007, 11:57 AM
his first loss to Pac affected his ATG status, but at this point he has nothing to lose by fighting the best because everyone knows he is no longer as good as he used to be.
If he wins, he is in the class of JCC.
If he loses, I see his legacy much the same as a SSM, a great fighter with great wins who fought two fighters (Pac and JJ) who just had his number.
hooligan
08-24-2007, 12:15 PM
Does losing to Pac again have any effect on his legacy, Personally I dont think it does, what do you lot think? And does it boost Pacs, or will it just go down as a win over an old Marco?
losing to pac for the first time affected his legacy already...
a second defeat would mean nothing...
jimmie
08-24-2007, 01:53 PM
Barreras legacy is already intack as a man who fought nearly all the top guys in the sport and rematched guys who beat him brutally(Jones and Pacquiao)or guys he beat closely like Morales and Juarez. He was once a brawler who turned into a fine boxer with a nice double jab and solid defense. The mans a 3 time World Champ in 3 divisons nothing can change that or his wins over future Hall of Famers or possible HOFers in Johnny Tapia,Erik Morales,Kevin Kelly,Paulie Ayala and Nassem Hamed not to mention the wins over Kennedy McKinney,Rocky Juarez,Robbie Peden etc. Marco Antonio Barrera is a true ATG in every sense of the word hes a god dam legend and a win over Pacquiao when his back is agianst the wall agian would shoot his legacy threw the roof.
brownshell
08-24-2007, 02:08 PM
Hamed an ATG???? Give me a break.
Stinky gloves
08-24-2007, 04:07 PM
Hamed an ATG???? Give me a break.
HOF for sure
It does markedly. In Barrera's resume, Pac's name will always be mentioned as the guy who beat him brutally in his prime in 2003 and beat him again when he was shot in 2007.
Pac's win over Barrera will boost his stock for retiring two Mexican legends. It will also cement his reputation as the Mexican Executioner.
Junior Jones? You probably werent watching boxing back then. :-(
yyBut what if Pac beat him again brutally in the same fashion as in 2003, will it boost Pac's stock? Will you again discredit him for fighting a shot fighter like what you guys said about Morales?
The only thing that can redeem Barrera's status as the greatest fighter in Superfeatherweight is beat Pac and beat him brutally. If he can't do that, he will considered a lesser fighter as compared to Pac.
Your thinking is so centered on Pac that you fail to understand the greater game of boxing.
Barrera has two wins over a prime Morrales, and was the only fighter to beat Hamed in addition to his other big wins.
Is it fair to say that Pac wont be recognized as a great fighter unless he KOs the two guys who KOd him in his career?
Barreras legacy is in tact as one of the greatest, dont get it twisted. Boxing is a game of ups and downs. Pac will lose again, mark my words. :deal
Just as Roy beat Bernard and Toney, and they have maintained ATG status, Barrera will be an ATG with or without Pac, period end of story.
lefthook31
08-24-2007, 07:59 PM
To me the biggest suprise with Barrera is how he bounced back from losses to junior Jones. I think he told his promoter never to match him against a slick boxer again.
Morrissey
08-24-2007, 10:51 PM
If he wins over PAc in their rematch, he might crack the top 50 ATG list.
jimmie
08-25-2007, 02:04 PM
But what if Pac beat him again brutally in the same fashion as in 2003, will it boost Pac's stock? Will you again discredit him for fighting a shot fighter like what you guys said about Morales?
The only thing that can redeem Barrera's status as the greatest fighter in Superfeatherweight is beat Pac and beat him brutally. If he can't do that, he will considered a lesser fighter as compared to Pac.
No he cause he isnt shot I had Barrera winning by a point over Juan Manuel Marquez who id pick agianst Pacquiao.
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