Wec 40

[IntentionalButt]

Solid undercard.

Impressions:

A Bendo-Njokuani rematch looks very, very tasty after both pick up dominant wins.

Christmas came late for Benavidez as he smuggles his zero past a guy in Jeff Curran who needed a win and who in all honesty beat the shit out of him for most of all three rounds.

PUMPED for Torres-Mizugaki. :bbb

[rydersonthestorm]

Solid undercard.

Impressions:

A Bendo-Njokuani rematch looks very, very tasty after both pick up dominant wins.

Christmas came late for Benavidez as he smuggles his zero past a guy in Jeff Curran who needed a win and beat the shit out of him for most of all three rounds.

PUMPED for Torres-Mizugaki. :bbb
I thought benavidez deserved the win, torres fight about to start.

[IntentionalButt]

Ist krieg! :ibutt

[IntentionalButt]

I thought benavidez deserved the win, torres fight about to start.

One point swing either way is within reason, but two judges had it 30-27. As though Jeff didn't clearly win the first.

[rydersonthestorm]

One point swing either way is within reason, but two judges had it 30-27. As though Jeff didn't clearly win the first.
Thats the problem with mma scoring it doesn't reflect the way the fight has gone in many ways, the fight was certainly alot closer than 30-27.
The torres fight is looking good so far.

[BobDigi5060]

I'd like to see the upset.

[IntentionalButt]

Mir is an idiot, 3 was a clear Mizugaki round.

Torres is going to tough it out until he's literally seeing red. Great heart. Also, he slips punches expertly by MMA standards - Mizu is not exactly a sloppy puncher (again, by MMA standards) and Miguel's made him miss a lot.

[BobDigi5060]

Mizu needs to stay off that damn cage.

[Filmnpuck]

Man, I'll never miss a Torres fight. You got to give it to the guy, he takes his lumps in every fight, but always does more than his opponent.

[Tko4]

What an awesome fight. That's all I have.

[IntentionalButt]

Fair decision there. Third was the only clear Mizu round, though he gave Torres probably the fight of his life so far - even gassed as he was in the last seven minutes. The guy's chin and tenacity are something else...as is his strength (he straight up muscled Torres a few times against the cage much to the surprise of everyone including Torres...and he had moments late in the fight where he was the one pressing forward and backing Miguel up). Torres' standout gifts are his endurance and offensive dynamism (with his defense a close third...counter jabs and kicks as Mizu lunged in, together with his elusive movement upstairs kept his face about half as bloody as it could have been).

[IntentionalButt]

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#3 BW at least. :happy

[jimmie]

When I saw Maeda vs Torres I thought greatest ever now 10 months later im seeing Torres-Mizugaki saying maybe the same thing.

[IntentionalButt]

When I saw Maeda vs Torres I thought greatest ever now 10 months later im seeing Torres-Mizugaki saying maybe the same thing.

That was just so taut and suspenseful, even the slow parts. On one hand, wondering whether 'Gaki would push a flush combination through Torres' defense and score a violent upset from behind on the cards. On the other, watching the sense of urgency of Torres trying to put this guy away and extend his "scores are academic" streak and then ultimately realizing "hey, I'm clearly the better all around fighter but holy SHIT this dude is game...I actually need to be on my toes just to pull out the W! :scaredas:"

[rydersonthestorm]

Torres maybe be a great fighter and be have good fights but he is miles off fedor/silva/gsp in the p4p sense he doesn't have any type of game plan and if he does he can't seem to put them into effect against higher quality fighters.

[jimmie]

That was just so taut and suspenseful, even the slow parts. On one hand, wondering whether 'Gaki would push a flush combination through Torres' defense and score a violent upset from behind on the cards. On the other, watching the sense of urgency of Torres trying to put this guy away and extend his "scores are academic" streak and then ultimately realizing "hey, I'm clearly the better all around fighter but holy SHIT this dude is game...I actually need to be on my toes just to pull out the W! :scaredas:"

Yup just incredible I nearly broke now in tears watching the fight.

[sugarngold]

I hate that I missed the Torres fight - but I was watching Wrestlemania. *hangs head in shame*

[demzor]

UFC needs to just swallow the WEC

It would really elevate these weight classes and give the fighters the recognition they deserve.

People would pay for a Miguel Torres ppv if it had the UFC brand behind it.
And that Curran/Benavidez fight was SICK too.

[jimmie]

UFC needs to just swallow the WEC

It would really elevate these weight classes and give the fighters the recognition they deserve.

People would pay for a Miguel Torres ppv if it had the UFC brand behind it.
And that Curran/Benavidez fight was SICK too.

Zuffa owns both companys and the WEC gets plenty of promoting behind it.

[demzor]

I know Zuffa owns WEC.. but I dont see the point of having a totally separate company for the bantamweights and featherweights . These guys could pack arenas if they had the UFC name behind them. WEC doesnt carry the same weight.

[IntentionalButt]

I know Zuffa owns WEC.. but I dont see the point of having a totally separate company for the bantamweights and featherweights . These guys could pack arenas if they had the UFC name behind them. WEC doesnt carry the same weight.

When do you see empty seats at WEC shows?

The roar at the end of Torres-Mizugaki was plenty loud.

[LB3000]

What a war! I had Torres winning the fight by a round. Credit to Mizugaki, I knew he would be competitive but I didn't think he would go the distance with Torres. He took the fight on short notice which makes it even more impressive. Bowles is next for Torres but hopefully we see a rematch in the future.

[demzor]

When do you see empty seats at WEC shows?

The roar at the end of Torres-Mizugaki was plenty loud.


Do you really not understand that the UFC is a much bigger show?

The bonuses for WEC 40 were 10k
The bonuses for Ultimate Fight Night last week were 30k
And if you ask me.. and most real mma fans.. Torres-Mizugaki is a bigger fight than Condit vs Kampmann.

At UFC PPV's bonuses are like 50k+. I heard for UFC 100 the bonuses were going to be 100k.

Miguel Torres has talked about moving up to 155lb so he can get paid... which would be a shame. He will get destroyed at 155 in the UFC!

[IntentionalButt]

Do you really not understand that the UFC is a much bigger show?

The bonuses for WEC 40 were 10k
The bonuses for Ultimate Fight Night last week were 30k
And if you ask me.. and most real mma fans.. Torres-Mizugaki is a bigger fight than Condit vs Kampmann.

At UFC PPV's bonuses are like 50k+. I heard for UFC 100 the bonuses were going to be 100k.

Miguel Torres has talked about moving up to 155lb so he can get paid... which would be a shame. He will get destroyed at 155 in the UFC!


Eh, it is what it is. You may be right that he deserves more than lesser talents who get bigger paydays just because they happen to campaign at higher weights under the UFC banner, but I'm still not shedding any righteous tears for somebody who gets paid 10k for a night's work (and maybe a few weeks worth of training). :yep

The WEC has its own brand identity and its own fanbase. The fact that these guys are competing on TV and getting paid in quadruple figures at all instead of getting banged up for little rinky-dink regional promotions means that they've 'made it'. I don't see there being a problem with keeping up the status quo.