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pathmanc1986
04-08-2009, 08:36 AM
Says on the main page

D-MAC
04-08-2009, 08:40 AM
Beat me to it ya bastard:twisted:

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Fat Joe
04-08-2009, 08:41 AM
Not surprised after hearing Khan's comments on Buncey's show. Kotelnik will beat him.

D-MAC
04-08-2009, 08:44 AM
Khan says: "I've seen Kotelnik a few times and I've always been impressed by him but once my trainer Freddie Roach works out the game plan to beat him it's my job to execute it on the night as I did effectively against Barrera."

Didn't Amir recently call Kotelnik the worst champion ever on Setanta?

FLINT ISLAND
04-08-2009, 08:45 AM
Is that the guy who stopped Gavin Rees?

Grant1
04-08-2009, 08:45 AM
Khan says: "I've seen Kotelnik a few times and I've always been impressed by him but once my trainer Freddie Roach works out the game plan to beat him it's my job to execute it on the night as I did effectively against Barrera."

Didn't Amir recently call Kotelnik the worst champion ever on Setanta?

yeah he did come to think of it :lol:

TFFP
04-08-2009, 08:46 AM
Is that the guy who stopped Gavin Rees?
Yes.

He will at the very least take Khan 12 rounds I would think, that will be interesting in itself. Kotelnik recently beat Argie puncher Maidana on points, so I would think there is little chance of Khan's featherdusters KO'ing him.

Grant1
04-08-2009, 08:46 AM
Is that the guy who stopped Gavin Rees?

yup.

perhaps we'll have Calzaghe vs Warrren; Rees vs Khan in his first defence now that Gavin has signed with Joe.

ishy
04-08-2009, 08:48 AM
WTF?! ****** pulls a right one here, he fucking beat Golden Boy to it!!! They wanted Ortiz to face Kotelnik, it was a done deal!!!!

Govanmauler
04-08-2009, 08:48 AM
Fair play to Khan, I've had my digs at him recently but this is a proper fight against a guy his own size. Admittedly Kotelnik is no superman but a good fight nonetheless.

I'l be backing him again for this one !

kosaros
04-08-2009, 08:49 AM
Khan moving up in weight...interesting. Does that mean he couldn't make lightweight anymore, because a fight against Diaz at lightweight for a world title would have been the easier option than Kotelnik

TFFP
04-08-2009, 08:51 AM
Khan moving up in weight...interesting. Does that mean he couldn't make lightweight anymore, because a fight against Diaz at lightweight for a world title would have been the easier option than Kotelnik
Neither Diaz has a world title :huh

D-MAC
04-08-2009, 08:52 AM
yeah he did come to think of it :lol:

Won't be much of an achievement if he beats him then:hey

mryeags
04-08-2009, 08:53 AM
Kotelniks good but imo he was lucky to get the decision against maidana .... Maidana attacked him alnight and Kotlenik covered up for most of it .... Khan will outwork and beat Kotelnik .. im sure Freddie will have the gameplan ready ! .... In and out counterpunching at speed ... Kotelnik will have to open up to match Khans speed and that will be Kotleniks downfall ....

D-MAC
04-08-2009, 08:53 AM
Neither Diaz has a world title :huh

I'm sure Frank may have been able to arrange a shot at a suddenly vacant title.

kosaros
04-08-2009, 08:55 AM
Neither Diaz has a world title :huh

I thought they were going to do something with the vacant WBO title, once JMM relinquished it, or thats what I heard was going on.

"TKO"
04-08-2009, 08:55 AM
How the hell does Khan get gifted a title shot at a higher weight he's never fought at? Sounds a bit dodgy to me, he's done nothing at lightweight since the Prescott mauling besides a technical decision over a very past his peak featherweight legend., let alone junior welter. Kotelnik is a bloody good fighter and is an easy night for no-one. Having said that, he's probably the one top junior welter who stylistically Khan stands a reasonable chance against (maybe Bradley too). Kotelnik is very solid fundamentally, has a good chin and stamina plus can fight on the front or back foot. However, it's doubtful whether he has the pop to blow away that suspect chin. Suspect ****** knows this as well, shrewdie that he is. Could be interesting anyway.

Govanmauler
04-08-2009, 08:56 AM
I'm sure Frank may have been able to arrange a shot at a suddenly vacant title.


lol yeah I think he may just have about managed it !

colinthfc
04-08-2009, 08:56 AM
Excellent match making. I see Khan winning based on the fighter I saw who lost to Witter and beat Rees.

He can then consolidate his position whilst the big boys face each other, and Amir can make his move late 2010 as he has youth on his side

TFFP
04-08-2009, 08:56 AM
Nothing would surprise me with Frank..but how the hell is David Diaz getting a title shot? He's nowhere right now.

And Juan..well..Juan kills him.

ishy
04-08-2009, 08:58 AM
Kotelnik hits hard enough to trouble Khan IMO and Khan doesn't have the power to trouble Kotelnik. Could be a good fight.

Maza1987
04-08-2009, 09:00 AM
kotelnik never been stopped.

good choice of fight for both men.

D-MAC
04-08-2009, 09:05 AM
How the hell does Khan get gifted a title shot at a higher weight he's never fought at? Sounds a bit dodgy to me, he's done nothing at lightweight since the Prescott mauling besides a technical decision over a very past his peak featherweight legend., let alone junior welter. Kotelnik is a bloody good fighter and is an easy night for no-one. Having said that, he's probably the one top junior welter who stylistically Khan stands a reasonable chance against (maybe Bradley too). Kotelnik is very solid fundamentally, has a good chin and stamina plus can fight on the front or back foot. However, it's doubtful whether he has the pop to blow away that suspect chin. Suspect ****** knows this as well, shrewdie that he is. Could be interesting anyway.

Dodgy goings-on in the boxing world?!?

Get the fuck out of here!:smooch

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:07 AM
The BBC have this up as there main story, fuckers never did that when Haye-Wlad or even Hatton-Pac was signed.

robpalmer135
04-08-2009, 09:07 AM
who cares how he got the shot!!!!! how many WBC ranked fighters did Froch beat to get his shot at the WBC title, how many fights has Gavins Rees has at light welter?

Bodysnatcher
04-08-2009, 09:11 AM
I'm excited for this fight, although somewhat surprised ****** is sticking him in with someone as handy as Kotelnik, and at 140 too.

SteelTownCobra
04-08-2009, 09:12 AM
Fair play to him. Kotelnik is no push over but he's probably the easiest route to a title at lightweight or light welter at the moment. Can see Khan winning this by volume of punches alone.

izmat
04-08-2009, 09:12 AM
I'm impressed and very surprised by this matchmaking !

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:14 AM
Funny thing is NO ONE saw this coming.

Anthony Farnell
04-08-2009, 09:15 AM
I think this will be a good fight too.
I didn't expect it at all.

Bonavena25
04-08-2009, 09:15 AM
Funny thing is NO ONE saw this coming.

Buncey said it on his show last week if I remember correctly, maybe the week before.

abzmanc
04-08-2009, 09:16 AM
Dont care what anyone says.. Frank ****** = Legend. He's pulled this rabbit right out of the hat! Gonna be very very interesting.

D-MAC
04-08-2009, 09:18 AM
Dont care what anyone says.. Frank ****** = Legend. He's pulled this rabbit right out of the hat! Gonna be very very interesting.

You have gone too far my friend:verysad

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:19 AM
How the fuck can you praise the ginger pubed one on this forum? He is ESB Brit Forum enemy no.1

robpalmer135
04-08-2009, 09:19 AM
buncey has been saying for way over a year that Khan should move up. i agree.

Light Welter there are weaker champions, Weaker contenders, He will be able to put weight on his legs and not drain to make weight which should make his punch resistence better, also the biggest potential fight for him is the biggest fight he could ever have. Hatton vs Khan, can you see it next year???

Darni187
04-08-2009, 09:20 AM
I hope this will make some of the Khan haters give the kid a break, I have always said Khan should move up weight as at 135 he is weight drained, maybe Khan been reading my posts :D

Max Molyneux
04-08-2009, 09:21 AM
Khan on points. Kotelnik just plows forward with a turtle guard and hardly throws anything.

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:21 AM
This is just a week after Haye-Wlad.

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:22 AM
Khan on points. Kotelnik just plows forward with a turtle guard and hardly throws anything.

Have you seen Kotelnik's last fight against Maidana? He threw a shit load of punches. It was a war.

threethirteen
04-08-2009, 09:22 AM
Rob, you think Khan would have a hope against Bradley?

Govanmauler
04-08-2009, 09:23 AM
I hope this will make some of the Khan haters give the kid a break, I have always said Khan should move up weight as at 135 he is weight drained, maybe Khan been reading my posts :D


I would probably be classed in that bracket and as i said earlier this is the kind of fight I was calling for , I'll be supporting him !

FLINT ISLAND
04-08-2009, 09:24 AM
Khan is gonna get dropped

robpalmer135
04-08-2009, 09:24 AM
i wonder if some on here will get behind Khan. I can see the Hatton fight happeneing. Theres way to much money to be amde from it. Will sell out Wembley.

P4PNo.1
04-08-2009, 09:25 AM
This one caught me by suprise.

But good fight for khan, I think moving up in weight will suit him and he should beat Kotelnik on points.

abzmanc
04-08-2009, 09:25 AM
You have gone too far my friend:verysad

Blimey that got a reaction lol. Legend was probably too strong a word, caught up in the moment and all that. But wether or not you like ******, he pulls off some crazy stuff. Like this.

Darni187
04-08-2009, 09:31 AM
If Khan wins do you guys think he will stay at 140?

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:33 AM
WBA LWW rankings:

Champ: Kotelnik
1. Dimitri Salita
2. Marcos Rene Maidana
3. Victor Ortiz
4. Nate Campbell
5. Lamont Peterson
6. Sirimongkol Singwancha
7. Yodsanan Nanthachai
8. Ionut Dan Ion
9. Victor Cayo
10. Randall Baily
11. Mike Arnaoutis
12. Brunet Zamora
13. Ajose Olusegun
14. Francisco Figueroa
15. Norio Kimura

kosaros
04-08-2009, 09:35 AM
Olusegun is more deserving of a shot at Kotelnik than Khan!

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:35 AM
I am pissed off at this, I wanted Ortiz to get a shot at Kotelnik.

slip&counter
04-08-2009, 09:37 AM
what a coup by ******

kotelnik is a decent fighter and will give khan a lot of problems, always said khan shoud've moved up to 140 a while back great deal all round

TFFP
04-08-2009, 09:38 AM
Kotelnik should win this fight :bbb

Darni187
04-08-2009, 09:39 AM
Kotelnik should win this fight :bbb

Khan is going to make this look easy :D

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:40 AM
Kotelnik should win this fight :bbb

:yep Kotelnik UD12, maybe late TKO

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:40 AM
The dude on SSN has just called Kotelnik 'Koltnik' :lol:

evil G
04-08-2009, 09:41 AM
Sounds like the right move from ******. Everyone here seems split on the outcome and its a credible step for Khan. I'm looking forward to it.

TFFP
04-08-2009, 09:41 AM
Yeah right, as if the unfashionable Ukranian is getting a decision against Khan barring knocking him down in every round.

He needs the stoppage, and I think he's got the accuracy and timing to put Khan over with a counter. Not speed but timing, he can't compete with Amir for speed.

One thing is for sure is that Kotelnik will not be stopped by featherfisted Khan, so he will be live for 12 rounds.

antcull
04-08-2009, 09:42 AM
How the fuck ****** pulled this one out of the bag when I thought Ortiz-Kotelnik was a done deal is beyond me, great opportunity for Khan and a winnable fight

If he wins this his standing as greatest ever British champion is solidified.

slip&counter
04-08-2009, 09:44 AM
no way khan moves back to 135 if he wins, he may even move to 147 and his frame is even perfect for light-middle

i'm not a big fan of bradley and i think khan has the tools to beat him if he gets past kotelnik, just don't see what bradley does well apart from workrate and coming in great shape, technically he's awful

the unified 140 champ in a few months? or maybe not

Darni187
04-08-2009, 09:44 AM
Iam fucking pissed iam flying on the 26th June to Vancouver for a 2 week holiday, i hope they are airing this fight out there in Canada. :twisted:

Govanmauler
04-08-2009, 09:44 AM
If Khan wins do you guys think he will stay at 140?


I think thats where he should be period !

Look how much more durable Cotto became once he moved up , Khan is mahoosive for a LW and I know he is young but he must have to boil like crazy.

TommyV
04-08-2009, 09:48 AM
It's interesting people saying that Khan may have been weight-drained at 135, and the move to 140 will do his chin good.

May I remind you, his fight with Rachid Drilzane, who had no stoppage wins at the time and too date still only has 1, was at 140, and Drilzane had him on the canvas.

Darni187
04-08-2009, 09:49 AM
I think thats where he should be period !

Look how much more durable Cotto became once he moved up , Khan is mahoosive for a LW and I know he is young but he must have to boil like crazy.

Yeah i been saying this for so long 135 for Khan is crazy, I think he will stay there at 140. He must of been having a problem making 135 for a 5'10 guy.

slip&counter
04-08-2009, 09:51 AM
khan vs witter? anyone

didn't witter beat kotelnik for the euro title

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:51 AM
What a load of cock, Khan has a shit chin regardless of weight class.

Govanmauler
04-08-2009, 09:52 AM
Im not suggesting it will turn him into Jake LaMotta but he cant be helping himself by stripping down to LW considering how big he is

He and I are the same height and I'm an in shape 12.5 stone , obviusly thats not the same as fighting weight and I do lift weights etc , but still.

I dont remember Drilzane dropping him ??

TFFP
04-08-2009, 09:52 AM
khan vs witter? anyone

didn't witter beat kotelnik for the euro title
Just about. That fight could have gone either way IMO.

antcull
04-08-2009, 09:52 AM
It's interesting people saying that Khan may have been weight-drained at 135, and the move to 140 will do his chin good.

May I remind you, his fight with Rachid Drilzane, who had no stoppage wins at the time and too date still only has 1, was at 140, and Drilzane had him on the canvas.

1.07...Yeah, really had him on the canvas :patsch
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Just another myth that has grown over time

slip&counter
04-08-2009, 09:52 AM
It's interesting people saying that Khan may have been weight-drained at 135, and the move to 140 will do his chin good.

May I remind you, his fight with Rachid Drilzane, who had no stoppage wins at the time and too date still only has 1, was at 140, and Drilzane had him on the canvas.

stop telling fibs, that was not a knockdown and khan has never fought at 140

ishy
04-08-2009, 09:54 AM
stop telling fibs, that was not a knockdown and khan has never fought at 140

He has fough at 140 and a KD was give but it was actually a slip or something.

slip&counter
04-08-2009, 09:57 AM
if khan wins this then the potential for great match-ups (50-50) at 140 are endless with lightweights moving up its a stacked division and apart from hatton and pacquiao and JMM if he moves no stand outs who will dominate

khan, peterson and ortiz are the future at 140

TFFP
04-08-2009, 09:57 AM
I suppose he "slipped" against Willie Limond, a man with 8 KO's! And he had really slippy shoes right...he couldn't get to his feet by 10 seconds.

What about against Craig Watson in the ams. He had weight issues when he was as skinny as a rake...with headgear on?!

I still can't believe excuses are made for this awful chin.

Beeston Brawler
04-08-2009, 09:58 AM
I don't think it was a real fight at 140 though..... just a meaningless fight for which Khan was weighing 137 or something and a bauble was put on the line.

He has improved plenty under Freddie Roach but all someone has to do is land something on his chin and it's all over. Someone that can walk through his pitty pat shots will succeed also.

slip&counter
04-08-2009, 10:03 AM
we may see campbell/khan after all, btw i think nate campbell destroys khan with those short 6 inch inside punches

TFFP
04-08-2009, 10:03 AM
That's the thing I always said about Khan. His shots are "pitty patty".

When do you see him put any bodyweight into a shot? He's worried about getting hit on the chin, so he just arm punches to keep at a distance. His power at world class is going to be less than Calzaghe's IMO.

Beeston Brawler
04-08-2009, 10:07 AM
I think Calzaghe had just enough to get the respect of his opponents..... Khan doesn't, even at the lowest level of boxing.

Even if you were vulnerable yourself you would just take the gamble, 'cos a clean shot on those whiskers at the fight is over.

Govanmauler
04-08-2009, 10:07 AM
That's the thing I always said about Khan. His shots are "pitty patty".

When do you see him put any bodyweight into a shot? He's worried about getting hit on the chin, so he just arm punches to keep at a distance. His power at world class is going to be less than Calzaghe's IMO.


That is certainly true , Khan will never be a banger ( and you're right Limmond had him over past 10 ) but y'know if he is gonna go after the champ in the weight class above ( or should I say the weight class he should have been in the whole time ) I feel like one has to give him the benefit of the doubt. :think

ishy
04-08-2009, 10:09 AM
That is certainly true , Khan will never be a banger ( and you're right Limmond had him over past 10 ) but y'know if he is gonna go after the champ in the weight class above ( or should I say the weight class he should have been in the whole time ) I feel like one has to give him the benefit of the doubt. :think

They've gone with Kotelnik because they think that's the best opportunity Khan has of winning a world title.

GazOC
04-08-2009, 10:10 AM
I think Kotelnik will have too much for Khan. Should get nice price......

Govanmauler
04-08-2009, 10:13 AM
They've gone with Kotelnik because they think that's the best opportunity Khan has of winning a world title.


While that may well be true he's still a decent fighter , Khans size and holds the belt so........


Look back , I gave Khan plenty of stick in the past but in my opinion he has a fight on his hands here and for that reason I'll cheer for him

TFFP
04-08-2009, 10:13 AM
I hope you are right Gaz.

I like Andreas, he has the European fencing style down to an absolute tee. It's the cleanest, purest style in boxing! No holding BS!

ishy
04-08-2009, 10:14 AM
Would it be moral to start a Kotelnik express on the Brit forum? :think

brown bomber
04-08-2009, 10:17 AM
Yey.... I am once again an AMIR FAN..... I'mn not paying for it though.....

Grievesy
04-08-2009, 10:20 AM
Quite a shock this one. Didn't expect it at all.

I think it's a winnable fight for Khan. He has the speed to stay on the outside and jab away thowing the odd right hand or combo to grab the win. Of course that's the only way he will win, because I suspect that even Kotelnik would have the power to put him down. And as such I don't think he will be able to keep Kotelnik off him for the whole fight. Even if Kotelnik is the weaksest champ at 140 he will still give Khan problems.

Darni187
04-08-2009, 10:21 AM
Around 7 months ago Khan got KO in under 1min of the first round, and now he is will be fighting for the WBA-Lightwelter weight World Title.

Hats off to him :good

ishy
04-08-2009, 10:21 AM
Would it be moral to start a Kotelnik express on the Brit forum? :think

Some guys just gone and made one :lol:

brown bomber
04-08-2009, 10:23 AM
Around 7 months ago Khan got KO in under 1min of the first round, and now he is will be fighting for the WBA-Lightwelter weight World Title.

Hats off to him :goodExactly ..... I'm on board.....in fact Darni....I'm fucking driving the mother fucker.

izmat
04-08-2009, 10:25 AM
I got Khan as an underdog for this fight and I'm a Khan fan

If khan wins it will be on points IMO

Darni187
04-08-2009, 10:26 AM
Exactly ..... I'm on board.....in fact Darni....I'm fucking driving the mother fucker.

:good Dont go to fast, you a been drinking, we dont want to get pulled over.

Govanmauler
04-08-2009, 10:39 AM
Exactly ..... I'm on board.....in fact Darni....I'm fucking driving the mother fucker.


Ladies and gentlemen I give you : The Post of the Week !

kosaros
04-08-2009, 10:58 AM
The odds for this fight (from skybet) are:

Khan 5/6
Kotelnik 5/6

So they feel its a true 50-50 fight, I agree.

slip&counter
04-08-2009, 11:39 AM
kotelnik should be favorite for this fight, more experience fought better fighters, the belt holder and technically better then khan

can't see how anyone can have khan as the favorite

rooq
04-08-2009, 12:36 PM
i kind of suspected this when khan mentioned kotelnik as the worst world champ on bunceys boxing hour....because that did seem a bit too random to be erm random.

ero-sennin
04-08-2009, 12:46 PM
I hope this will make some of the Khan haters give the kid a break, I have always said Khan should move up weight as at 135 he is weight drained, maybe Khan been reading my posts :D

Not a Khan hater and I agree he's getting too much stick but he's not exactly helping his cause. On the Buncey show calls Kotelnik the "worst champion" then when the fight is made he says everytime he's seen Kotelnik he's been impressed by him. Fans don't like bullshit.

If Kotelnik is that bad then surely if Khan beat him he woud be a paper champion, yet you can bet your house he would change his tune if that happened. Kotelnik would probably go from worst champion to one of the best. ****** IS a genius. What Prospect can get knocked out in the 1st round in a fight that never should have been on ppv in the 1st place, and then STILL be on ppv! Incredible. Where is Prescott?

Never heard of this Ukrainian guy and I would've prefered a Prescott rematch or a fight with Juan Diaz.

Mace, Joe
04-08-2009, 12:54 PM
I think Khan will win this on points. It's in the UK, Khan is a hugely hyped fighter on these shores and a lot of money has been spent on him - it will be tough to Kotelnik to come away with a decision, unfortunately.

Having said that, I think Khan will beat him without needing the help of a dodgy decision, there will be an insanely wide UD in his favour. Now excuse me while I cry.

rhinocoote
04-08-2009, 12:55 PM
suprised but excited,,
can someone (with more boxing/training knowledge than me) tell me, that if khan moving up and being less weight drained will actually give him more punch resistance??
i'm sure that it could,just didn't know how much difference?
or is it a wait-and-see?

ninebar
04-08-2009, 01:08 PM
I had a feeling he would go up to Light Welter, but i didn't think it would be for his next fight.

So Khan has skipped all the Domestic Challenges and now he's gonna skip out on trying to win a Title @135. Maybe he's showing some balls because he's going up to a seriously tough division.

I think if he hung around at Lightweight he would have had easier competition because once Juan Manuel Marquez moves up there's only really Juan Diaz and Edwin Valero left at the highest level.

Does anybody know who's gonna fight for the IBF Light Welterweight Title once Urango vacates?

slip&counter
04-08-2009, 01:15 PM
randell baily is in line for IBF in urango vacates

alba
04-08-2009, 01:17 PM
While fair play to Khan for getting this fight,i dont think he deserved it but if he was foeerd it you cant blame him for taking it.

The only thing for me is that i think he decided to mve uop to LWW as he didnt fighting JMM or Diaz.I dont think he would have lasted any more than 8 rounds with those 2,but i cant help but think he thinks this is an easier option,or an easier route.

widdy
04-08-2009, 01:18 PM
suprised but excited,,
can someone (with more boxing/training knowledge than me) tell me, that if khan moving up and being less weight drained will actually give him more punch resistance??
i'm sure that it could,just didn't know how much difference?
or is it a wait-and-see?

you will get people on here saying it will,bigger leg,stronger neck,blar de blar,not a chance with a chin that bad,no amount of weight will improve it,and if anyone says diffrent,prove it,and don't give me bollocks about cotto,not even in the same class of chin,the boys china.:shock:

still a good fight for him,******s pulled this one out of the hat,easiest fight out there for khan at either weight.he not a massive puncher or is that big for a lightwelter.:good

El Cepillo
04-08-2009, 01:24 PM
This news is just plane weird. :shock:

TommyV
04-08-2009, 02:01 PM
randell baily is in line for IBF in urango vacates

Can you imagine Khan vs Bailey?

:lol:

BremnerBomber
04-08-2009, 02:15 PM
Khan must be the only boxer ever to be critisised for moving up a weight to face a legit top 5 beltholder at the age of 22.

I have even seen ppl write that Khan is ducking Jono and Murray in facing Kotelnik !!!

UndisputedUK
04-08-2009, 02:18 PM
How did Khan get a WBA title fight @ Light Welter when he has been boxing @ Lightweight for most of pro career - anyone know Khan's WBA Light Welter ranking.

Not complaining just a little curious... as think this will be an interesting fight as Kotelnik is probably a little underrated & did box the ears of Gavin Ree's last year quite comfortably...

WBA 140lbs title has a very poor history over the last couple of years, after Hatton!

dwilson
04-08-2009, 02:21 PM
Great fight for Khan. Kotelnik is there to be beaten but is an ok name and holds a good belt.

Khan can beat him then drop back to lightwieght to win a belt before going upto welter and proving Brit fighters can master that division too.

riggers
04-08-2009, 02:21 PM
Kotelnik will stop Khan imo

mrbassie
04-08-2009, 02:26 PM
Khan is ducking TBA

Lewisbell
04-08-2009, 02:42 PM
IF khan beats Kotelnik, we shall see him fight Gavin Rees, Junior Witter as his first two defences, then a 140 against Prescott and eventually Khan vs a faded Hatton in 2011

achillesthegreat
04-08-2009, 03:06 PM
Kotelnik is a good tough opponent but he can be outboxed over 12.

achillesthegreat
04-08-2009, 03:07 PM
Yes.

He will at the very least take Khan 12 rounds I would think, that will be interesting in itself. Kotelnik recently beat Argie puncher Maidana on points, so I would think there is little chance of Khan's featherdusters KO'ing him.

It's not always about power. Speed kills. I'd never be suprised to see Khan catch someone with a fast shot that they don't see. Down they go, up they come, flying fists force the stoppage.

Khan's not feather fisted at all. Not dynamite but not feather fisted.

abzmanc
04-08-2009, 03:25 PM
Khan moving up to LWW was inevitable. Freddie Roach said it would happen, a short while after the Barrera match up was made.

abzmanc
04-08-2009, 03:40 PM
It's not always about power. Speed kills. I'd never be suprised to see Khan catch someone with a fast shot that they don't see. Down they go, up they come, flying fists force the stoppage.

Khan's not feather fisted at all. Not dynamite but not feather fisted.

I agree.. i might be wrong, but Fagan whom he stopped, hadn't previously been stopped much for a supposed 'journeyman'. The punches seemed very good which floored Fagan.

achillesthegreat
04-08-2009, 03:49 PM
I agree.. i might be wrong, but Fagan whom he stopped, hadn't previously been stopped much for a supposed 'journeyman'. The punches seemed very good which floored Fagan.
Fagan was known as tough but Khan caught him with shots he didn't see then blitzed him.

faisal
04-08-2009, 04:05 PM
Khan gets ktfo in 2

faisal
04-08-2009, 04:19 PM
Look at the jokers in this thread u think khans inability to fight on the inside will get him a points win? Khotelnik will block all those crappy punches of khan and stop him early i'm convinced of it

UKITAZ
04-08-2009, 04:22 PM
All aboard the Kotelnik express !

saintsmike
04-08-2009, 04:55 PM
Khan gets ktfo in 2

So predictable "KHAN GETS KTFO" by anyone is your usual prediction. It isn't going to happen not in two rounds against Kotelnik. Lets be realistic Kotelnik isn't a power puncher he's a counter puncher and might catch Khan in the later rounds.

faisal
04-08-2009, 04:57 PM
So predictable "KHAN GETS KTFO" by anyone is your usual prediction. It isn't going to happen not in two rounds against Kotelnik. Lets be realistic Kotelnik isn't a power puncher he's a counter puncher and might catch Khan in the later rounds.
your boys career is ova:smoke

abzmanc
04-08-2009, 05:08 PM
your boys career is ova:smoke

Not my boy.

But didnt you say the same against Barrera? Thought so.

debaser
04-08-2009, 05:18 PM
Scandalous he's got this totally undeserved opportunity but none of us will be surprised. He will win easily. Wish I could say good luck to him but givrn the manner that this has all come about I hope he is defeated.

mrbassie
04-08-2009, 05:23 PM
Scandalous he's got this totally undeserved opportunity but none of us will be surprised. He will win easily. Wish I could say good luck to him but givrn the manner that this has all come about I hope he is defeated.

Win easily? Kotelnik is a proven fighter, Khan has been ko'd in less than a minute by, correct me if I'm wrong, the only pro lightweight he's faced. Kotelnik took Witter twelve rounds and to a razor thin decision, Khan would be lucky to stay on his feet for thrity seconds with a puncher like Witter.

debaser
04-08-2009, 05:29 PM
Win easily? Kotelnik is a proven fighter, Khan has been ko'd in less than a minute by, correct me if I'm wrong, the only pro lightweight he's faced. Kotelnik took Witter twelve rounds and to a razor thin decision, Khan would be lucky to stay on his feet for thrity seconds with a puncher like Witter.

Kotelnik won't get anywhere near his chin and won't be able to cope with his speed. I hate to say it but I can see a flashy ko victory for Khan in the making.

jonnytightlips
04-08-2009, 05:42 PM
Khan will have to back up his words now that he said kotelnik was the worst world champ out there. Khan within 5 rounds

faisal
04-08-2009, 06:19 PM
what a tit will he look if he gets destroyed

faisal
04-08-2009, 06:20 PM
Not my boy.

But didnt you say the same against Barrera? Thought so.
barrera was robbed of his TKO victory u saw how his knees buckled by those 2 counter hooks, if it wasnt for the cut berrara would have done a job on him

slip&counter
04-08-2009, 06:27 PM
barrera was robbed of his TKO victory u saw how his knees buckled by those 2 counter hooks, if it wasnt for the cut berrara would have done a job on him

:patsch

icemax
04-08-2009, 07:57 PM
if it wasnt for the cut berrara would have done a job on him

...and if my aunty had bollocks she'd be my uncle.....fucking knob :-(

saintsmike
04-09-2009, 01:47 AM
barrera was robbed of his TKO victory u saw how his knees buckled by those 2 counter hooks, if it wasnt for the cut berrara would have done a job on him

Funniest thing I've heard all year.
Yeah Khan was out on his feet. Jesus forgot about that moment, let me guess was Barrera one clean punch away taking out Khan. I didn't even claim to be a Khan fan. But I don't blindly hate on him like you do.
So much so that you come up with absolute crap like this.

Flea Man
04-09-2009, 02:04 AM
I think they are underestimating Kotelnik and I can't see Khan A) sparking him B) avoiding getting hit the whole fight.

Kotelnik TKO 7.

Either way, if Khan wins he'll have to fight Ortiz and he's getting sparked then. But I think they want Khan to win to set up a fight with Hatton, well, he's definitely getting stopped then. Can't see the point of mixing with harder punchers if you can't deal with those in your own division.

BURNLEYBLUE
04-09-2009, 02:13 AM
Finding it hard to get excited about this fight. We will not learn anything new about Khan imo. He wins, he gains a paper title against 'the worst world champion out there' (his words) he may show good improvement, but will have to imo. He gets chinned, confirmation of what we knew all along....and the haters tear him to shreds.

Flea Man
04-09-2009, 02:22 AM
WBA LWW rankings:

Champ: Kotelnik
1. Dimitri Salita
2. Marcos Rene Maidana
3. Victor Ortiz
4. Nate Campbell
5. Lamont Peterson
6. Sirimongkol Singwancha
7. Yodsanan Nanthachai
8. Ionut Dan Ion
9. Victor Cayo
10. Randall Baily
11. Mike Arnaoutis
12. Brunet Zamora
13. Ajose Olusegun
14. Francisco Figueroa
15. Norio Kimura

This will be his first defence if he wins, mark my words, feather fisted and average!!!

Poor Olu is gonna' go mad, unless Ajose gets a shot at Khan if he wins the title :lol:

However, I'm pretty sure Kotelnik will stop Khan.

Hopefully Khan will fight Bailer, Randall Bailey+Glass jaw=A fantastic sight

debaser
04-09-2009, 05:05 AM
Funniest thing I've heard all year.
Yeah Khan was out on his feet. Jesus forgot about that moment, let me guess was Barrera one clean punch away taking out Khan. I didn't even claim to be a Khan fan. But I don't blindly hate on him like you do.
So much so that you come up with absolute crap like this.

I have to agree. I'm no Khan fan either but to suggest Barrera would have gone on to win the fight is pure fantasy and wishful thinking. The truth is he probably would have been stoped in the later rounds.

threethirteen
04-09-2009, 05:55 AM
Kotelnik's got a good defence and has the temperament to know that he might drops rounds early then pick them up later. Khan nearly got put out by a non-punching, former super feather in Limond. Kotelnik's not a banger, but he can punch a bit and finish on accumulation. By that measure, he can turn Khan into a pile of salts.

ICTChris
04-09-2009, 06:13 AM
Fair play to those involved - this is a proper fight for Khan.

Guy
04-09-2009, 08:04 AM
Fair play to Khan, I've had my digs at him recently but this is a proper fight against a guy his own size. Admittedly Kotelnik is no superman but a good fight nonetheless.

I'l be backing him again for this one !

You're a fair man Gov':good

This one came out of the blue??, it's another brave move by Khan dangerous to take on Kotelnik for his first fight at 140. :cool: