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québecwarrior
04-10-2009, 11:23 AM
The fight is 8 day ahead, and that's an ''important'' fight for UFC, because we all know that if Liddell win and Forrest win their next bout, they will face each other probably in a contender bout for the belt.

For all that matter, I think Liddell isnt what he used to be, but Rashad was a bad matchup for him due to his very impressive handspeed.

Shogun will be better than he was vs Coleman, but you don't grow a cardio just in a couple of months.

Shogun will give it all in the first round trying to KO Liddell, in a very agressive way and I think Liddell will spar him out going backward.
If Evans and Rampage were bad matchup for Liddell, Shogun is tailor made for him.


I'll be very surprised if Liddell lost this one. If he loses, he need to hang out, because if he CANT beat ''that'' Shogun, with the style in his favour, then he will never beat no other top 5. And I can't wait to see if Liddell has some punch resistance in him. His last 2 losses by KO were just brutal.


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Shogun
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québecwarrior
04-10-2009, 11:25 AM
I hope Liddell will use his kick. Back in the days, he used it enough to keep his opponent honest at that range. Now, he doesnt kick at all anymore.

I'll be surprised if the fight hit the ground.

québecwarrior
04-10-2009, 11:29 AM
If other people want to join for the avatar bet, just say it. It will be one month, just enough before the other big avatar bet Evans-Machida

IntentionalButt
04-10-2009, 11:30 AM
I don't have unconditional blind faith in Shogun, but damn I love seeing Chuck lose.

Sic'em Rua! :happy

OuterDrake
04-10-2009, 11:59 AM
Liddell is finally training with a boxing coach Howard Davis Jr. to improve defense for that chin of his.

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Polymath
04-10-2009, 12:00 PM
I fear Shogun is shot to shit.

Lidell tko.

MaliSlamusrex
04-10-2009, 12:07 PM
Well it depends what Shogun turns up, if Shogun fights like we all know he can he should win, but in the Coleman fight he was tired and his stand up was shit, if he does that against Liddell he will get uppercuttedTFO.

i do think this is Shogun's time and he should win via armbar. But then again i see Liddell winning via KO. This fight is interesting because it is very hard to call.

Nuke
04-10-2009, 12:09 PM
I fear they are BOTH shot, but I'll go with the younger guy. Rua KO second round

Ubersteve
04-10-2009, 12:12 PM
Voted Shogun, more in hope than expectation.

Grievesy
04-10-2009, 12:20 PM
I'm banking on Shogun's last preformance being down to ring rust rather than him being shot. He's still quite young so even after his injuries etc I think he can still perform. Liddell however is shot to shit and hasn't looked good in his last four fights. I think it's too little too late regarding him training to keep his hands up. Theres NO chance that he is getting the belt back.

AJAX
04-10-2009, 01:02 PM
I'll take Chuck if anyone's interested in that avatar bet, I think the old boy has 1 more run before he calls it a day. His back is against the wall so he'll be ready. People keep talking about how Shogun will gas but that was fighting coleman and Forrest who kept up a fast pace and going for takedowns, liddells style won't make Shogun work as hard so I expect a close fight.

ufoalf
04-10-2009, 02:42 PM
I liked shogun before last 2 fights. If he fights the same way Liddell will have a field day with him. Make no mistake, it WILL be brutal.

jimmie
04-10-2009, 06:44 PM
I like Chuck Liddell in this fight by 2nd round TKO. Shogun is similar in style to Wanderlei Silva which is what Liddell needs somebody who will come to him so he can jab and fire his right hand. Liddells finetuning his boxing skills which ATT so that should help I expect him to 1-2 Shogun much like he did to Silva. Liddell still has cardio the torid 3 round pace he held with Wanderlei proved that. Shogun gassed out EARLY vs Coleman and screw the layoff excuse because he gassed out quickly vs Forrest as well. Shoguns going to be dangerous for a round or two but if Liddell can survive which is a big if of course he takes it comfertably.

Polymath
04-10-2009, 07:00 PM
I liked shogun before last 2 fights. If he fights the same way Liddell will have a field day with him. Make no mistake, it WILL be brutal.

:happy

Chucks been losing to elite type fighters, not having a seizure in a close fight with a 73 yr old

jimmie
04-10-2009, 07:09 PM
:happy

Chucks been losing to elite type fighters, not having a seizure in a close fight with a 73 yr old

:lol: Yeah not to mention the 73 year old had to cut weight,drop the roids,off for well over 2 years and doesnt have much else in his game besides his wrestling and hammerfast. Shogun looked dead after the fight either that man doesnt train or he has some serious lung issues.

TheBradyHawkes
04-11-2009, 12:27 AM
Shogun will get finished. His stamina has been awful.

Beebs
04-11-2009, 11:31 AM
Even a deteriorating Chuck will knock a lazy unprofesional headcase Shogun out. Shogun needs the fight on the ground, which he simply never had the ability even at his best, he might have been able to get the clinch, but the only person to effectively control Liddell in the clinch is Randy, and Shogun is no Randy.

It will look like Shogun vs Diabate or Overeem, except Shogun has zero abilty to close the distance to clinch or get a takedown.

MMAFIGHTER1
04-14-2009, 04:39 AM
Chuck by brutal KO after shogun gases.

sugarngold
04-14-2009, 10:54 AM
I'm torn on this one. I think this is a real pick 'em fight.

Vitor Belfort
04-14-2009, 04:45 PM
I think liddell is way past his prime by now. I think shogun will beat him convincingly.

Bill Butcher
04-17-2009, 09:07 PM
Both guys look done TBH, a far cry from when both were ranked no1 & 2 in the LHWT division.

If both show up at their very best (which I strongly doubt) then Shogun will win by KO but the way things are right now I lean a little towards Chuck.

I hope Shogun wins, he is the more skillfull & entertaining fighter IMO.

I want to see the old Shogun that ruled pride again, its possible, he is still only about 27.

Bill Butcher
04-17-2009, 09:09 PM
As I said above, I lean ever so slightly towards Chuck at this moment in time but since I WANT Shogun to win, Im gonna give him a vote... here goes.

brandon9624
04-17-2009, 10:50 PM
I'm always down to see Liddell ko someone in brutal fashion, but my gut told me Rashad, and I'm gettin the same feelin with Shogun. Shogun revives his career at Chuck's expense, Rua by TKO.
I would like nothing more than to see Liddell look as impressive as ever, but I think at this point in his career changing up his training (ATT) may just be a distraction.

Sardu
04-17-2009, 11:09 PM
I lean towards Liddell. Shogun has been a disappointment so far in the UFC. He was awesome in Pride.

MaliSlamusrex
04-19-2009, 04:34 AM
It's been a long time since ive said this, but it's about time i said it again, Mauricio Shogun Rua is a killer.

ufoalf
04-19-2009, 04:44 AM
Still not convinced. He's gona have to keep KOing ppl in first round or work on his conditioning.

MaliSlamusrex
04-19-2009, 04:56 AM
Don't know about that he has already had a hell of a career. His wins over Ovareem, Arona, Rampage and mini Nog were impressive.

Still not convinced. He's gona have to keep KOing ppl in first round or work on his conditioning.

Grievesy
04-19-2009, 09:19 AM
Well quebec, I won an avatar bet for once. Come and collect bitch!!!!

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elixirvtec
04-19-2009, 09:24 AM
Well quebec, I won an avatar bet for once. Come and collect bitch!!!!

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YES!!!!!!!!!! best won EVER!!!! holy shit

québecwarrior
04-19-2009, 09:52 AM
I hope you go to hell when you dies

Grievesy
04-19-2009, 09:57 AM
I hope you go to hell when you dies

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québecwarrior
04-19-2009, 10:01 AM
I'm starting to think that you already had those on your PC

elixirvtec
04-19-2009, 10:06 AM
I hope you go to hell when you dies

Well, I hope satan makes you sucks his balls while your in hell

québecwarrior
04-19-2009, 10:09 AM
Well, I hope satan makes you sucks his balls while your in hell
Don't worry, god will still accept you even if you like boys.

elixirvtec
04-19-2009, 10:19 AM
Don't worry, god will still accept you even if you like boys.


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Grievesy
04-19-2009, 10:45 AM
I'm starting to think that you already had those on your PC

Nope, but i do have things like:

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But that would be too nice to give you them. Especially after you made me use you as an avatar for a month.:D

elixirvtec
04-19-2009, 10:51 AM
Nope, but i do have things like:

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But that would be too nice to give you them. Especially after you made me use you as an avatar for a month.:D


That's nice of you but he doesn't like those kinds of pictures. québec likes pics of the male species