Could Marciano have fought at 175?

[RafaelGonzal]

I know the Rock fought as low as 181 yet all the big money was at heavy which is why he campaigned there. Could have Marciano squeezed off the extra 6 lbs and been as effective at 175 pounds at lightHeavy. With his power it would have been awesome but realistically could he have done it.In todays boxing world of weighing in a day prior he could do 175 and show up 182 or 183 fight night. I could just imagine a Calzaghe vs Marciano fight and the scorching Marciano would give this fraud.Thoughts, opinions?

[Cachibatches]

No. He walked around at well over 200 (according ot Peter Marciano) and got to 185 by training like a demon.

[turpinr]

No. He walked around at well over 200 (according ot Peter Marciano) and got to 185 by training like a demon.

at his best(51-56) he would have had no chance at making 175lb

[mcvey]

No.

[Bummy Davis]

He trained himself down to the lowest weight for stamina...He was a heavy boned guy, no way

[McGrain]

Yes, he could have made 175. He would have been desperate at the weight, though.

[MrMarvel]

I know the Rock fought as low as 181 yet all the big money was at heavy which is why he campaigned there. Could have Marciano squeezed off the extra 6 lbs and been as effective at 175 pounds at lightHeavy. With his power it would have been awesome but realistically could he have done it.In todays boxing world of weighing in a day prior he could do 175 and show up 182 or 183 fight night. I could just imagine a Calzaghe vs Marciano fight and the scorching Marciano would give this fraud.Thoughts, opinions?

Easily. He fought on several occasions less than 181, so your fact isn't accurate. He fought as low as 178 lbs on more than one occasion and these were in the late 1940s. It is a myth that he walked around at 200+ as some people claim. In fact, I reported here an AP story that had him weighing 193 pounds months in between fights late in his career (1955). I also reported here a New York Times story reporting that during training he tried to gain weight to get over 185 lbs for the first Walcott fight! So, yeah, light heavyweight wouldn't have been a problem. Today, he would have to fight at light heavyweight - if he wanted to be successful (not guaranteed, though).

[janitor]

In his own day he would not have had a cat in hells chance of making 175 lbs. There was nothing left to cut when he was 185-190.

Today he might theoreticaly be able to sweat down to 175 lbs asuming that he aplied the same training regime as he did in his own era (highly unlikley) and that having done so there was anything left to sweat off (uncertain).

If he were fighting today he would almost certainly be a cruiserweight until he decided to step up.

[MexicanJew]

He might have been able to get down to 175 today with a proper nutritionist and training.

I think he would be best suited for Cruiserweight however. He was an extremely stout man, dense muscle and heavy boned. Cruiserweight would be ideal for him.

With his reknowned stamina and power today, he would undoubtedly dominate

[janitor]

It rather underlines how weight classes have become distorted these days.

We have one thread discusing Marciano fighting at 175 and another with him bulking up to 210 or 220 and frankly neither sound particularly implausible.

[SuzieQ49]

the most critisized fighter of all time. such a shame. what did he ever do to deserve it?

[196osh]

the most critisized fighter of all time. such a shame. what did he ever do to deserve it?

The vast majority of fighters get critzied because of overbearing chest beating fans who make clams people find unreasonable.:good

I think Marciano could have made 175, he would have been very tight at the weight, but fighters regularly put on 10-14lbs after nowadays. I dont think it would be his best weight. He would be a much more comfortable CW.

[China_hand_Joe]

I could just imagine a Calzaghe vs Marciano fight and the scorching Marciano would give this fraud.Thoughts, opinions?

No, but I can imagine him lumbering around, constantly being countered and kept of balance as he swings wildly at the superior boxer.

Calzaghe would have no trouble outlanding him 2 to 1, with most of Marciano's shots being glancing blows. These two fighters are incomparible.

[janitor]

the most critisized fighter of all time. such a shame. what did he ever do to deserve it?

What did he do to deserve it?

He didnt have the courtesy to loose at least one fight to apease the insecure.

There is unfortunately a racial element as well in a small number of cases.

[Ted Spoon]

The vast majority of fighters do not possess the commitment to the attain the fat to muscle ratio of Rocky Marciano.

In no way, shape or form could he have afforded to lose another good 10 pounds. It would have stricken him with staleness.

[djanders]

No. Rocky Marciano could not have sensibly trimmed down to 175 pounds. It would have been much easier for him to come in over 200 pounds than under 176...in my opinion.

[MRBILL]

Marciano could've made 175 prior to to 1951...... However, at 175, Marciano would be a limp dick there....... 184 was pretty goddamn lean and mean for Marciano....... Marciano later filled out in the low 190s, as he was for Don "The Cock" Cockell in 1955................ Cheerio.......

MR.BILL:bbb

[PH|LLA]

with today's draining methods its rather easy to shed 10-15 lbs and then put them right back on.

its not like he would have walked into the ring at 175, just 5 minutes prior to the weigh in and then right back to the nutrients

[Privatejoker]

Chris byrd got back down to 175 and was dead. Yes he used to be 160 at the start of his career. But he fought at a higher weight than Marciano (around 210 pounds) and is 6'1" and faster and elusive then Rock.

[Boilermaker]

i think that Rocky could have got down to 175 and while obviously it would have effected him against heavys, i doubt, very seriously, that there are many, if any, light heavys who would have withstood his onslaught at 175. In any case, it would have never happened, because he would be champion (or at least in the mix) at heavy in any era, and there would be zero chance of him wasting his time at Cruiserweight or Light heavyweight, pursuing a lesser title. Even if there were a great lower weight champion, they would have to step up to fight him, he wouldnt need to sweat down.

[albinored]

...hell....i never thought he was all that great at 185!! going down to 175 would have drained him of his stamina, which was his greatest asset. at 175 charles would have sliced him to pieces...

[Privatejoker]

I agree.

A 175 Charles would slice a 175 Marciano open.

[TommyV]

Not comfortably at all.

I've seen people on here who claim that in the modern era he could of made super-middle, which I find very, very hard to believe.

[spittle8]

the most critisized fighter of all time. such a shame. what did he ever do to deserve it?
He committed the sin of being white.:roll:

If you look at Rocky, he really doesn't look like he has much room to cut. I can't really see him bulking to Tyson proportions either, so I see him as a cruiserweight.

[SuzieQ49]

I agree.

A 175 Charles would slice a 175 Marciano open.
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But not a 185lb Rocky Marciano. Remember how much trouble Charles had with swarmers elmer ray and pat valentino in his prime, they pressured him landed on him and got results. However I will say this, I think Charles in his prime is a bad stylistical matchup for rock and could take one off him by decision, but no way could charles repeat that feat in a rematch. I am very firm that marciano at his best wins 2 out of 3 vs charles at his best.

Charles W 15 unanimous Marciano

Marciano KO 8 Charles

Marciano TKO 13 Charles

It would go something like that


prime for prime

[SuzieQ49]

...hell....i never thought he was all that great at 185!! going down to 175 would have drained him of his stamina, which was his greatest asset. at 175 charles would have sliced him to pieces...


Jaclem,

Looks like your flip flopping on me. I thought strength was his greatest assett. Didn't Ezzard say he was stronger than Nino?

[albinored]

,,,suzie...well, i suppose you're right. charles said that rocky was not the hardest puncher he'd ever faced, but the strongest fighter. that includes big nino and everybody else. but at 175 using that strength in his usual way of bulling his opponent around would start to drain him as the fight went on, and affect his stamina.

but...yeah....i agree that if we picked just one aspect that he might lose at that weight it would be strength so i agree with you and stand corrected.

and ezzard would slice him up...

[RockyJim]

The Rock worked his ass off to get himself down to 189 pounds......when he retired
in April of 1956...he was over 200 pounds...