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Kampioni
04-11-2009, 10:54 AM
I have been working on the weights for past 3 months to get me in shape for boxing in the summer. I was wondering wha do you guys think I should work on ? I have done lots of tris chest shoulders and back, anything else I should consider to get me in toned?

JN95
04-11-2009, 11:01 AM
neck

Kampioni
04-11-2009, 11:09 AM
How do i work out on neck?

Relentless
04-11-2009, 11:20 AM
bodybuilding to get 'in shape' isn't the same thing as being 'in shape' for boxing.

Kampioni
04-11-2009, 11:26 AM
bodybuilding to get 'in shape' isn't the same thing as being 'in shape' for boxing.

well i mean getting more toned, i do boxing exercises prior to working out. I just wanted to know what weight exercises will benefit me in boxing?

Bodi
04-11-2009, 11:40 AM
One glaring omission - LEGS. Never, never neglect your wheels!

In saying that, you should work your whole body, you should not overlook any part of your body when training for boxing. Your body is one unit - train it as one.

Kampioni
04-11-2009, 11:44 AM
One glaring omission - LEGS. Never, never neglect your wheels!

In saying that, you should work your whole body, you should not overlook any part of your body when training for boxing. Your body is one unit - train it as one.

thanks for the input man I'll keep that in mind !

kinski
04-11-2009, 12:07 PM
Hands and wrists!!!!

JN95
04-11-2009, 12:16 PM
this should help for neck exercises [Only registered and activated users can see links] :good

cool-cat
04-11-2009, 12:16 PM
core

sam1222
04-11-2009, 12:23 PM
One glaring omission - LEGS. Never, never neglect your wheels!

In saying that, you should work your whole body, you should not overlook any part of your body when training for boxing. Your body is one unit - train it as one.

thats pretty good advice mate, but you aint told him how haha

Bodi
04-11-2009, 12:37 PM
thats pretty good advice mate, but you aint told him how haha

So what, am I supposed to lay out a whole training programme? He asked what to train, I gave him advice on what he should train, given what advice was missing from the previous answers.

Kampioni
04-11-2009, 12:43 PM
this should help for neck exercises [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Thank you :good

sam1222
04-11-2009, 12:54 PM
nah course not, i'm just saying it was good advice but you could have included a what exercises to do. not so much for legs, but what you ment about about working the whole body, core exercises, or exercises with force different muscle groups to share the load. i aint trying to single you out or pull you up for what you've posted, i'm just saying.

BlackWater
04-11-2009, 12:58 PM
I wish people knew there was so no such thing as toning.

Bodi
04-11-2009, 01:39 PM
nah course not, i'm just saying it was good advice but you could have included a what exercises to do. not so much for legs, but what you ment about about working the whole body, core exercises, or exercises with force different muscle groups to share the load. i aint trying to single you out or pull you up for what you've posted, i'm just saying.

Well, the problem with laying out specific advice, especially on this site is that there is always some dipshit who comes along with the sole intention of picking apart your advice, hence my reasoning for not giving too much out.

Case in point, not too long ago on here, someone asked what a good leg workout was and I suggested that car pushing (amongst several other exercises) was fantastic for building leg strength. Next thing, some jackass pipes up that this was bad advice because "not everyone is in a position to push a car" - WTF, you give someone sound advice, and then someone comes along without anything constructive to say, so they try to pull apart the good advice that others have offered.

If someone wants specific advice, they are more than welcome to send me a private message, where I will be more than happy to offer detailed guidance. When it comes to offering advice across the open forum, i'm afraid that i've had my fingers burnt on more than one occasion, so from now on, any advice that I give will be limited at best.

sam1222
04-11-2009, 01:54 PM
yeah i know what you mean, fair point mate. but like i say i wasnt trying to criticise or pull your advice apart, i was just saying you could have added a little more cos it was sound advice, but now i see why.

RDJ
04-11-2009, 02:07 PM
I have been working on the weights for past 3 months to get me in shape for boxing in the summer. I was wondering wha do you guys think I should work on ? I have done lots of tris chest shoulders and back, anything else I should consider to get me in toned?

Your "body". Boxing does not divide the body into parts, you'll need full body strength.

markedwardscott
04-12-2009, 05:40 PM
I agree the neck is the most important since it's the shock absorber. You can actually build it up by military presses or lying on your back and bringing your chin up to chest.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

twoohands
04-12-2009, 10:02 PM
yeah i know what you mean, fair point mate. but like i say i wasnt trying to criticise or pull your advice apart, i was just saying you could have added a little more cos it was sound advice, but now i see why.


instead of criticising other people advice, why dont you add some exercises and explain how they are done?

El Puma
04-13-2009, 11:53 AM
Your "body". Boxing does not divide the body into parts, you'll need full body strength.
:good

El Puma
04-13-2009, 11:55 AM
I wish people knew there was so no such thing as toning.
:lol: Exactly.


My brother keeps saying that and I reply with a pained look on my face. "Please don't ever say that in public"

fxdwng
04-13-2009, 07:44 PM
Let me throw a couple of things out real quick;
1) I agree completely the neck needs to be strong, but it's also very easy to injure through bad posture/bad techniques while exercising. I'm not a fan of military presses - most folks are more likely to hurt themselves doing them than anything else. Try lying down on a bench or something so the edge rests at the base of your neck. Your head will be flexed back - top of your head pointing towards the floor. Place your hands on either side of your head and alternate pushing against your hands for 15-20 seconds, then reps of 20-30 lifting your head up parallel with your body. Just one idea...

2) Stop lifting weights and start running, and hitting sets of pullups / pushups / dips / burpees. If you're doing "boxing exercises" before a work-out, somethings wrong. If you were doing the right "boxing exercises" the right way, you wouldn't have energy left for a work-out.

Lots of good threads on here for total body routines that will wear you out. Have fun.

JeyJey
04-14-2009, 06:33 AM
If you want to train your neck try out shoulder shrugs. That exercise doesnt need a lot of technique, but always make sure you do them correctly. Try not to rotate your shoulders while doing them etc. you can mess a lot up. This will mostly train the trapezius muscle, but also deltoid muscle and the arms.

Dunno what you training plan looked like up to now, but you might want to look into antagonistic training. After training for 3 months now, you could change you training plan, so your muscles wont too accostumed to certain exercises.

The basic of antagonistic training is that you during one training unit, you train for example your biceps and your triceps in a superset -> You do the bicep exercise and the tricep directly after each other and you take a short break. (Doesnt need to be done with weight lifting excercises)

E.g:

TU 1: Chest -- Back
TU 2: Biceps -- Triceps (belly and lower back too)
TU 3: Shoulders
TU 4: Legs (Quadriceps, Adductors, Calfs etc. -)

The training can be very exhausting, due to a high number repetitions in short time because of the supersets, but your training shouldn't just consist of weight training though. Wont help you with stamina at least. This sorta training shouldn't make up your whole training, but rather be a addition.

(About the link posted ealier) [Only registered and activated users can see links] Wouldn't do that one though, unless you seriously want to damage your body over time.

Bodi
04-14-2009, 07:24 AM
For neck training, not much beats isometrics with someone holding a towel around your head.

Jumpstretch or ironwoody bands are also good for neck training.

GNARL
04-24-2009, 03:06 AM
No body building exercises. These isolate muscles and never will you use just one muscle in boxing. Only useful if you have a determined strength deficiency. But then your medical professional will help with that. First, develop your core strength. Many sit ups. Hundreds. Back extensions. Only then go your extremities. If you core is weak and you try to squat, you are risking injury and your support is lacking. It will be hard to build strength in a squat with a weak core. Build core and then work your way out. My recommendations are squats, lunges, deadlifts, good mornings, shoulder press, medicine ball slams and tosses. Also push ups and its variations. Hindu push ups, medicine ball, stability ball. More advanced ab exercises when you get stronger. Use resistance bands to stabilize shoulders to prevent injury. External and internal rotations. As you progress, then sport specific training. Punching with resistance bands. Weighted sprints. Medicine ball work that closely mimics boxing punches. Ask if you have any questions.

Brighton bomber
04-24-2009, 06:21 AM
I wish people knew there was so no such thing as toning.

:lol: I had two people at work yesterday ask me what kind of workout routine they should do with weights to tone up. And one of them should know better he's always in the gym. It's amazing how little some people know espeically in this day an age when the internet can give you the answers to almost any question.

paloalto00
04-24-2009, 08:08 AM
One glaring omission - LEGS. Never, never neglect your wheels!

In saying that, you should work your whole body, you should not overlook any part of your body when training for boxing. Your body is one unit - train it as one.

^^Listen to him