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GPater11093
04-12-2009, 03:17 PM
Post your scorecards and discuss

i had Laguna winning 145-141 but did not have round 4 in my version of fight so called it even the rounds broke down as

Laguna: 2,3,4,5,9,10,11,14,15
Ortiz: 1,7,8,12,13

I was surprised taht Laguna was able to rock Ortiz late on and that Ortiz struggled to hit him at times, i was also impressed with Ismael lead right

My2Sense
04-12-2009, 11:17 PM
I haven't watched or scored the fight in ages, but I've always felt Laguna finished big in the last 2 or 3 rounds, and that sealed the decision for him after a roughly even fight up until then. Fair decision for Laguna.

The way it looked to me, Ortiz got caught up in chasing Laguna, and it ended up that chasing Laguna wore him out for the late rounds. In their rematches, Ortiz essentially turned the tables by making much better use of his own jab and boxing ability, and making Laguna fight on his own terms.

GPater11093
04-13-2009, 04:45 AM
I haven't watched or scored the fight in ages, but I've always felt Laguna finished big in the last 2 or 3 rounds, and that sealed the decision for him after a roughly even fight up until then. Fair decision for Laguna.

The way it looked to me, Ortiz got caught up in chasing Laguna, and it ended up that chasing Laguna wore him out for the late rounds. In their rematches, Ortiz essentially turned the tables by making much better use of his own jab and boxing ability, and making Laguna fight on his own terms.

yeh laguna really turned it on in the later rounds when Ortiz was abit tired and rocked him afew times, havent saw the rematch yet but i have the 3rd fight which ill waych sometime soon

GPater11093
04-14-2009, 12:24 PM
just started watching the 3rd fight

sweet_scientist
04-16-2009, 01:37 AM
Post your scorecards and discuss

i had Laguna winning 145-141 but did not have round 4 in my version of fight so called it even the rounds broke down as

Laguna: 2,3,4,5,9,10,11,14,15
Ortiz: 1,7,8,12,13

I was surprised taht Laguna was able to rock Ortiz late on and that Ortiz struggled to hit him at times, i was also impressed with Ismael lead right

My scorecard is actually quite different to yours GPater in terms of the round-by-round breakdown, but in terms of outcome, it's pretty similar. Brilliant performance by Ismael.

teeto
04-16-2009, 06:59 AM
I've got this fight, i'll watch it and report back

GPater11093
04-16-2009, 07:42 AM
My scorecard is actually quite different to yours GPater in terms of the round-by-round breakdown, but in terms of outcome, it's pretty similar. Brilliant performance by Ismael.

it is very very close rounds and it could go either way but i think it should be a Laguna win

whats your RBR scorecard for it out of intrest

I've got this fight, i'll watch it and report back


great fight you will enjoy it



ok, so last night i stuck in Ortiz-Laguna 3 really geting into it and it gets to the 11th round and it finsihes i had it

Laguna: 2,3,6,8
Ortiz: 1,4,5,7,9,10

going by Boxrec the judges score cards were 11-4 x2 and 12-3 so Ortiz must have swept the last 5

sweet_scientist
04-16-2009, 01:58 PM
it is very very close rounds and it could go either way but i think it should be a Laguna win

whats your RBR scorecard for it out of intrest


144-142 Laguna


Ortiz: 1,2,3,4,8 and 12.

Laguna: 5,6,7,9,10,11,13 and 14.

Round 15 even.

I thought Ortiz was doing well early on, but then he seemed to hit a wall and it was pretty much all Laguna thereafter. Not sure if it was owing to under training, as is claimed or if he simply had trouble catching up with Laguna once he started to motor, but I felt Carlos looked a little devitalised after a promising start.

GPater11093
04-16-2009, 02:15 PM
144-142 Laguna


Ortiz: 1,2,3,4,8 and 12.

Laguna: 5,6,7,9,10,11,13 and 14.

Round 15 even.

I thought Ortiz was doing well early on, but then he seemed to hit a wall and it was pretty much all Laguna thereafter. Not sure if it was owing to under training, as is claimed or if he simply had trouble catching up with Laguna once he started to motor, but I felt Carlos looked a little devitalised after a promising start.


i thought Laguna did a good job of making him chase him and tire himself out