Did cotto low blow zab deliberately

[He Hate Me]

Zab as usual started off pretty strong as expected. Was zab slowed down on purpose twice in order to deal with the faster judah. If so does Zab judah deserve a credible opponent/payday in the future?

[He Hate Me]

Specific to the low blow please.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Zab as usual started off pretty strong as expected. Was zab slowed down on purpose twice in order to deal with the faster judah. If so does Zab judah deserve a credible opponent/payday in the future?

No. In the first round Cotto was definitely stunned, but if he truly needed to buy time, he wouldn't have waited nearly 30 seconds to deliberately foul. When he got hurt by Torres and Corley, he went into retreat mode. In this instance, he was still engaging, fighting back off the ropes and never appeared to be glass eyed, wobbled, or did his legs ever leave. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion and wouldn't have even been mentioned had Jim the Drama Queen Lampley not insinuated this during the first round of the fight. I like the way Merchant immediately disagreed with him. And the low blow in the 3rd round was a result of Zab cuffing Cotto behind the head with a right hook while he was going to the body.

If Zab wants to use this as crutch to why he lost, and as motivation to keep fighting against the top cats out there, then hey..more power to him. I say there's still a lot of guys who he could give fits with his power and handspeed.

[kirk]

No.

he was MORE hurt against chop chop... and he didnt do it
he was waaaay more hurt against torres, and didnt do it

his lack of getting himself out of trouble this way before when he had been in worse trouble makes me think that they were indeed punches that just accidently hit low.

[Yo Pimp]

Yes he did.
Zab landed that huge uppercut that dazed him badly, although he did not show it as much, he was ready to be taken out in the first round.
I'm expecting Cotto to start hitting low whenever he's in grave danger of getting KO.

[Tuavale]

Absolutely. He needed to get Judah off of him and it worked.:smoke

[freethinker]

It was deliberate and really lame. Hopefully, he won't do that against Mosley :P

[pipe wrenched]

Cotto is in the top 3 of my favorite fighters and I think he most def. went low on purpose. I half heartedly started to cheer for Zab after those blows.

[pipe wrenched]

Was re-watching the fight earlier and had to wonder why nobody ever brings up the disgustingly foul shot to the balls Hatton did to Tszyu in thier fight? I guess it was retaliation but Tszyu didn't do it on purpose, and after the warning from the ref and the break Hatton left uppercut to the balls on purpose.

[He Hate Me]

Cotto knows zab has a tarnished reputation, because of this zab would everything in his power to play by the rules. This played right into the hands of Cotto. Two well placed hard shots in the groin were more than enough to make judah stationary for those wicked left hooks to the body. Miguel was initially overwhelmed by superior handspeed and had to resort to plan b.

[He Hate Me]

No. In the first round Cotto was definitely stunned, but if he truly needed to buy time, he wouldn't have waited nearly 30 seconds to deliberately foul. When he got hurt by Torres and Corley, he went into retreat mode. In this instance, he was still engaging, fighting back off the ropes and never appeared to be glass eyed, wobbled, or did his legs ever leave. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion and wouldn't have even been mentioned had Jim the Drama Queen Lampley not insinuated this during the first round of the fight. I like the way Merchant immediately disagreed with him. And the low blow in the 3rd round was a result of Zab cuffing Cotto behind the head with a right hook while he was going to the body.

If Zab wants to use this as crutch to why he lost, and as motivation to keep fighting against the top cats out there, then hey..more power to
him. I say there's still a lot of guys who he could give fits with his power and handspeed.

I don't think you believe cotto went low twice accidentally now do you?:nono

[willnav]

No. In the first round Cotto was definitely stunned, but if he truly needed to buy time, he wouldn't have waited nearly 30 seconds to deliberately foul. When he got hurt by Torres and Corley, he went into retreat mode. In this instance, he was still engaging, fighting back off the ropes and never appeared to be glass eyed, wobbled, or did his legs ever leave. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion and wouldn't have even been mentioned had Jim the Drama Queen Lampley not insinuated this during the first round of the fight. I like the way Merchant immediately disagreed with him. And the low blow in the 3rd round was a result of Zab cuffing Cotto behind the head with a right hook while he was going to the body.

Completely agree. 1st lowblow judah walked into it as cotto was throwing his left hook which make contact before arching up into the intended target/liver. Check it in slow motion on youtube.:patsch Judah's ass :blurp are funny.

[Antwuan Maxx]

I don't think you believe cotto went low twice accidentally now do you?:nono

Ummn...what I do believe is this. If you find yourself in serious trouble at the 1:41 mark of the round, and need to buy time by fouling, you're sure as hell not gonna wait until the 1:17 mark to bail yourself out. I also believe if someone hits you with a damaging blow to the balls, you're not going to hesitate before feeling the effects. :deal

[Unchained]

Anyone who disputes this is a moron. Cotto is a good fighter, maybe a great fighter. That being said, he got rocked twice in the Judah fight, rounds 1 and 3, immediately after both shots the next shot cotto threw was a direct nut-shot. If you can't figure out that it was on purpose you are on drugs.:hippy

[PR Boxing Lore]

Yes he did.
Zab landed that huge uppercut that dazed him badly, although he did not show it as much, he was ready to be taken out in the first round.
I'm expecting Cotto to start hitting low whenever he's in grave danger of getting KO.
How can you not show you r badly hurt?:patsch

[roly]

Was re-watching the fight earlier and had to wonder why nobody ever brings up the disgustingly foul shot to the balls Hatton did to Tszyu in thier fight? I guess it was retaliation but Tszyu didn't do it on purpose, and after the warning from the ref and the break Hatton left uppercut to the balls on purpose.

it's called fighting fire with fire

[Caper]

Anyone who disputes this is a moron. Cotto is a good fighter, maybe a great fighter. That being said, he got rocked twice in the Judah fight, rounds 1 and 3, immediately after both shots the next shot cotto threw was a direct nut-shot. If you can't figure out that it was on purpose you are on drugs.:hippy

You guys are fucking pathetic :lol:

Anyone who thinks the outcome of the fight was revolved around low blows is truely delusional. Grown men searching for excuses in a sport that does not allow them. The first low blow was hardly low and borderline because Cotto is a focused body puncher, the second was a result of Judah pushing Cotto's head down. No its only obvious that haters will deny this fact and think I'm talking shit but this is a fact.

Cotto was headbutted on purpose and lowblowed and just srugged it off and kept on trucking, since when does losing the amount of blood Cotto lost during that fight compare to getting hit low. Losing all that blood from your mouth effects your stamina more in the long run as compared to being hit low.

Stop making Zab look bad by bitching for him, the man gave his due respect to Cotto more than any fighter he has faced in the past if that doesnt tell you the kind of integrity Cotto has then I don't know what will.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Anyone who disputes this is a moron. Cotto is a good fighter, maybe a great fighter. That being said, he got rocked twice in the Judah fight, rounds 1 and 3, immediately after both shots the next shot cotto threw was a direct nut-shot. If you can't figure out that it was on purpose you are on drugs.:hippy

:lol: At which point was Cotto hurt in the 3rd? Judah hadn't even landed one punch (unless you can't a grazing jab or two) in that round at the time of the low blow.

[Caper]

Anyone who disputes this is a moron. Cotto is a good fighter, maybe a great fighter. That being said, he got rocked twice in the Judah fight, rounds 1 and 3, immediately after both shots the next shot cotto threw was a direct nut-shot. If you can't figure out that it was on purpose you are on drugs.:hippy

I guess I'm a moron. :good

[pipe wrenched]

it's called fighting fire with fire

In that particular case it was more like fighting a cigarette lighter with a blow torch.:verysad

[brooklyn1550]

I think he did

[jecxbox]

The first low blow was the only one that maybe could have been intentional. You people act like both were intentional..Anyone that thinks the second low blow was intentional is a f'n moron. Cotto was in control of the entire round and was not in danger at all when he accidentally hit Zab with the 2nd low blow. I don't really think the 1st one was in intentional either...Cotto has never been a dirty fighter...

Ask yourself this..

was Cotto dirty when he got rocked vs Corley?
was Cotto dirty when he got rocked vs Torres?

So why is Cotto a "dirty" fighter out of a sudden against Zab Judah? the 2nd low blow was an accident WITHOUT A DOUBT.

And if you look back at Cotto when he fought Corley and Torres when he was hurt both times he went low to the body in both situations to slow them down to get them off him...If you noticed the second Zab Rocked Cotto..Cotto slipped in a left hook to the body..This is what Cotto does its automattic..He gets hurt and he keeps throwing body punches..

Sure he cought Zab in the balls nice and clean but i DOUBT that they were intentional. All the people labeling Cotto as a "dirty" fighter need to grow up, stfu and watch a different sport..Cus boxing is a FIGHT so spare us all with your tears and hate.

[Caper]

I think he did

Damn that's two people who think I'm a moron :lol:

[Relentless]

Anyone who disputes this is a moron. Cotto is a good fighter, maybe a great fighter. That being said, he got rocked twice in the Judah fight, rounds 1 and 3, immediately after both shots the next shot cotto threw was a direct nut-shot. If you can't figure out that it was on purpose you are on drugs.:hippy

did you read the previous post, idiot?

cotto was hurt on mark 1:41

the first low blow happened when there was 1:17 left of the round

so cotto waited 24 seconds to throw his first punch after being hurt?

[Executioner]

No, it's fucking stupid that people think that. Watch the replay, Cotto's head was pulled down and was throwing a bodypunch and landed south of the border.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Zab as usual started off pretty strong as expected. Was zab slowed down on purpose twice in order to deal with the faster judah. If so does Zab judah deserve a credible opponent/payday in the future?

No, Cotto did not. He digs and hooks to the body alot. So it's natural he might land low once in a while. He hasn't shown any reason so far over his career that he's dirty. Especially when he's such a solid professional.

And Zab impressed the fuck outta me with his professionalism, toughness, and heart as well.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Was re-watching the fight earlier and had to wonder why nobody ever brings up the disgustingly foul shot to the balls Hatton did to Tszyu in thier fight? I guess it was retaliation but Tszyu didn't do it on purpose, and after the warning from the ref and the break Hatton left uppercut to the balls on purpose.

Hatton, like Cotto, goes to the body alot. You guys are looking for something that just isn't there.

[pipe wrenched]

Hatton, like Cotto, goes to the body alot. You guys are looking for something that just isn't there.

I can understand Cotto's, but like i posted earlier i just watched it today and Hatton smashed Tszyu's balls directly after a break (no pushing down on the head or anything of the nature) it was clearly intentional (out of retaliation).

[Vantage_West]

i thought it wasnt anything big especially the first one put me on tender hooks but was rather odd when the 2nd one came round...my reason

ok my reason is that as a good body puncher cotto is he is always the short man. now when he fought taller guys has he not low blowed them(as the trucks are higher) while he fought a man who was similar in hieght to him and he belted him with 2....the 2nd was so brutal

[Vantage_West]

8afiBuudbVQ
in reality it doesnt matter if they are delibrat or not the truth is that after both low blows zab stopped bouncing as much and went flatfooted fro most of the later rounds

even against mayweather he was moving and using his legs.

i feel it effected him especially the first one

not just that noticed how busted up cotto's face was before zab got a big right uppercut to the crotch...not just that cotto shook his head like oh come off i didnt hit him.....which in the replay almost lifted zab up.

good tactics and as much as they are aggainst the rules they did what he needed to do to win which is what we should look for


oh just watched the end of the 3rd cotto landed low again.

[CarltonBlues]

Yeah it was deliberate.

[Vantage_West]

just watched the whole fight there was a headbutt as well

[Vantage_West]

oh fuk look at the replay of the 2nd ow blow notice the sneaky left hook that was low aswell

[kirk]

Was re-watching the fight earlier and had to wonder why nobody ever brings up the disgustingly foul shot to the balls Hatton did to Tszyu in thier fight? I guess it was retaliation but Tszyu didn't do it on purpose, and after the warning from the ref and the break Hatton left uppercut to the balls on purpose. it was retaliation.... an eye for an eye, or in this case a ball for a ball.

[kirk]

then why didnt he do it when hes been more hurt then cotto had him then?

[Vantage_West]

even another one he throws left hooks round the guard and hits judah's kidney

[Vantage_West]

then why didnt he do it when hes been more hurt then cotto had him then?come on man how bait would that be after you get hurt you smack him in the balls :yep


it wasnt that far after he was hurt zab was going to go for broke if he hurt him again so he tapped him gave both men a breather and gave both men an advantage

[the_what]

Nope. Cotto wasnt hurt at all when he accidently hit Judah. He had no reason to go low. Therefore, they were an accident.

[He Hate Me]

If your not willing to accept the fact that cotto is capable of using these tactics then you have been taken for a ride. This is part of the sport and it does happen, cotto is given the benifit of the doubt and shouldn't. During the post fight interview one of the first, if not the first issue cotto delt with was the low blows (he knew what he was doing, he is a world class athlete. If he didn't do it on purpose he has no buisness in the ring), hence guilty concious.

[knockout]

Dont know only God and Cotto would know that.

[compukiller]

Yes. Cotto was hurt, but I think he found Zab's speed to be a serious problem, and he feared he could get hurt again like he did in the 1st.

Good veteran tactic. Illegal, but smart.

Better not try that with Mosley.....

[Rickypr18]

If your not willing to accept the fact that cotto is capable of using these tactics then you have been taken for a ride. This is part of the sport and it does happen, cotto is given the benifit of the doubt and shouldn't. During the post fight interview one of the first, if not the first issue cotto delt with was the low blows (he knew what he was doing, he is a world class athlete. If he didn't do it on purpose he has no buisness in the ring), hence guilty concious.
So basicaly what you are saying is that if i don't agree with you im wrong??? Dude, you don't know Cotto, so all this shit ur talking is nonsense, unless you personally talked to Cotto and he said: "Yes, I punched him in the nuts on purpose", then you should shut the fuck up.

[Caper]

8afiBuudbVQ
in reality it doesnt matter if they are delibrat or not the truth is that after both low blows zab stopped bouncing as much and went flatfooted fro most of the later rounds

even against mayweather he was moving and using his legs.

i feel it effected him especially the first one

not just that noticed how busted up cotto's face was before zab got a big right uppercut to the crotch...not just that cotto shook his head like oh come off i didnt hit him.....which in the replay almost lifted zab up.

good tactics and as much as they are aggainst the rules they did what he needed to do to win which is what we should look for


oh just watched the end of the 3rd cotto landed low again.

To be fair why don't you add in a clip of Zab hitting Miguel low and also headbutting him and splitting his eye.

But then again this a "I feel sorry for Zab, he woulda won...If" thread. :|

[Caper]

If your not willing to accept the fact that cotto is capable of using these tactics then you have been taken for a ride. This is part of the sport and it does happen, cotto is given the benifit of the doubt and shouldn't. During the post fight interview one of the first, if not the first issue cotto delt with was the low blows (he knew what he was doing, he is a world class athlete. If he didn't do it on purpose he has no buisness in the ring), hence guilty concious.

Of course, any fighter is capable of these tatics but like me some people feel it was not deliberate.

If your not willing to accept the fact the Cotto might not have used these tatics then your also being taken for a ride.

[psychopath]

Zab as usual started off pretty strong as expected. Was zab slowed down on purpose twice in order to deal with the faster judah. If so does Zab judah deserve a credible opponent/payday in the future?

You were asking a question on the title . . . then you said later . . . "on purpose" fuck that. Stupid! :rofl

And to answer the second question . . . Credible opponents? Yes

Payday (big)? NO

. . . we'd had enough of Judah always getting big fights which he always screw up . . . he should go back fighting class C fighters and work himself up back to contention.

[He Hate Me]

So basicaly what you are saying is that if i don't agree with you im wrong??? Dude, you don't know Cotto, so all this shit ur talking is nonsense, unless you personally talked to Cotto and he said: "Yes, I punched him in the nuts on purpose", then you should shut the fuck up.

It's obvious you are very bias, I have no problem with cotto, just one look at your profile picture says it all so cut it out. I would respect your analysis if you were more objective, until then I know you worship the ground he walks on and thats ok,just admit it and stop bashing counter opinions with your rage. Those who need to resort to using profanity lack to resources of articulation.

[Vantage_West]

If your not willing to accept the fact that cotto is capable of using these tactics then you have been taken for a ride. This is part of the sport and it does happen, cotto is given the benifit of the doubt and shouldn't. During the post fight interview one of the first, if not the first issue cotto delt with was the low blows (he knew what he was doing, he is a world class athlete. If he didn't do it on purpose he has no buisness in the ring), hence guilty concious.i totally agree with you even though lowblows thumbing headbutting is against the rules duran, hopkins,ruiz used it to great effect as much as they are bad class they can be used very tacticly thats why i dont mind.im sure zab could of won but as run-dmc say "it's like that and thats the way it is"

[Vantage_West]

To be fair why don't you add in a clip of Zab hitting Miguel low and also headbutting him and splitting his eye.

But then again this a "I feel sorry for Zab, he woulda won...If" thread. :| look at that right uppercut to the balls to say thats all above board is so stupid to say.

and even if zab did land a low blow it was by no means like these 2

[Relentless]

look at that right uppercut to the balls to say thats all above board is so stupid to say.

and even if zab did land a low blow it was by no means like these 2

and you know that how.....???


what about when zab was hitting cotto low?? and when zab headbutted cotto and busted his eye open??

[He Hate Me]

and you know that how.....???


what about when zab was hitting cotto low?? and when zab headbutted cotto and busted his eye open??

Chalk it up, another unbias and objective member. Your picture says it all.:yep

[Relentless]

ok i'll write the same thing again without the avatar shall i?

[Antwuan Maxx]

look at that right uppercut to the balls to say thats all above board is so stupid to say.

and even if zab did land a low blow it was by no means like these 2
This picture tells it all. Cotto shoots a body shot, and gets cuffed behind the head with a Judah right hook, forcing his punch to go lower than intended. It's common sense.

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If you want to see blatant fouling, check out the 2:32 mark of round 6 when Zab pulls off a headbutt, left cross combo.

[Relentless]

This picture tells it all. Cotto shoots a body shot, and gets cuffed behind the head with a Judah right hook, forcing his punch to go lower than intended. It's common sense.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

If you want to see blatant fouling, check out the 2:32 mark of round 6 when Zab pulls off a headbutt, left cross combo.

you should have posted this without your cotto avatar because that idiot 'he hateS me' will say you are bias because of your avatar.

[Antwuan Maxx]

you should have posted this without your cotto avatar because that idiot 'he hateS me' will say you are bias because of your avatar.

That's a cop out he uses when posters point to obvious facts. Facts that he can't counter with his own. Rather than admitting to being wrong, he flips it as "you're a Cotto fan, therefore, you can't be objective about this topic."

[He Hate Me]

That's a cop out he uses when posters point to obvious facts. Facts that he can't counter with his own. Rather than admitting to being wrong, he flips it as "you're a Cotto fan, therefore, you can't be objective about this topic."

Nice cotto signature, your obsessed with this guy and you think people are nieve enough not to check out your profile.:deal

[errsta]

Yes.

I also thnk that Judah was butting and elbowing deliberately as well.

Does that make it right? No, but it's fighting.

[Relentless]

The first low-blow wasnt even on the button. It was more of a hip shot. If it really was low, how come Zab waited 1-2 seconds to react? Any man who gets hit on the balls that hard, is gonna hit the floor IMMEDIATELY!. Now the 2nd one was indeed low, but i cant say for sure if that it was intentional. Cotto was actually very appoligetic about it. If it was indeed low or not, nobody here can say for sure if it was. Cotto is the ONLY person who knows the answer to that question. So anybody saying that they are POSITIVE that it was either intentionally low or not should just keep it quiet.

you got a cotto avatar, you have no say.

[Relentless]

Nice cotto signature, your obsessed with this guy and you think people are nieve enough not to check out your profile.:deal

what does anything have to do with people checking out his profile? :huh

would it be better if errsta defended cotto? he doesn't have a cotto avatar or a signature.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Nice cotto signature, your obsessed with this guy and you think people are nieve enough not to check out your profile.:deal

How old are you...12? By your logic, If I'm obsessed with Cotto, I guess that means the same for you and that roid guzzling cat in your avy, huh?

[He Hate Me]

I suppose I struck a nerve with these two gentlemen and that wasn't my intent. I wish I could take the cotto brothers on this thread serious, unfortunatly they have exposed there true nature, and reason for membership on esb. Relentless and antwuan maxx both have an obvious agenda, please lets not go back and forth on this as we all said our peace.

[Relentless]

:lol: this guy is just sour zab lost, face it, he also got his ass kicked by floyd, baldo and spinks.

[Antwuan Maxx]

I suppose I struck a nerve with these two gentlemen and that wasn't my intent. I wish I could take the cotto brothers on this thread serious, unfortunatly they have exposed there true nature, and reason for membership on esb. Relentless and antwuan maxx both have an obvious agenda, please lets not go back and forth on this as we all said our peace.

Struck a nerve? Please. Don't flatter yourself. It just seems really silly to me that you would create a post asking "Did Cotto low blow Zab deliberately?" Then when posters reply with evidence suggesting the blows more than likely were not intentional, rather than counter with an intelligent response or anything sensible at all, you dismiss the claims off as biased statements from Cotto fans attempting to save face. :lol: Which is hilarious when you are guilty of doing the exact thing you're accusing others of doing. Oh the irony...

:lol: this guy is just sour zab lost, face it, he also got his ass kicked by floyd, baldo and spinks.

Yep.

[Relentless]

if a cotto fan is not suppose argue for cotto then who is???

a hater??

fan or not facts dont lie.

[maciek4]

Its the same case as with Trinidad vs Vargas, sure they might have been intentional but they would not change the outcome of the fight, both Trinidan and Cotto were superior to their foes and the knockouts were bound to happen sooner or later. If Cotto rematched Judah the same outcome would be expected, Cotto by brutal knockout.

[Dorfmeister]

Those were deliberates to break the action and flip the course of the action no doubts about it but pradoxically, Zab didn't lose primarily because of that so he doesn't deserve a rematch, he does deserve a good a good payday and a credible opponent, I wouldn't go as far as say another title shot right away with Cintron or Williams, but at least a eliminator against someone like Tony Margarito Hell Yeah

[Dorfmeister]

Those were deliberate to break the action and flip the course of the action no doubts about it but paradoxically, Zab didn't lose primarily because of that so he doesn't deserve a rematch, he does deserve a good payday and a credible opponent, I wouldn't go as far as to say another title shot right away with Cintron or with Williams, but at least a eliminator against someone like Tony Margarito Hell Yeah

[the_truth]

deliberate or not after the low blows judah came out strong after landing great punches... what people have to realize a fighter doesnt like losing, theres only a few that would go out and just simply give respect and say he was the better man today...

[dave82]

Did cotto low blow zab deliberately? Who knows. Either way it was a great shot!!!

[carras]

accidental

[cpnasty]

All I know is that Zab low blowed Mayweather on purpose

[Unchained]

LOL at the Cotto nut huggers. No one knows if he did it on purpose or not. BUt you cannot deny it changed the fight. Zab was different after the first low blow then even worse after the second. That is not debateable. I never said Cotto was a dirty fighter, but it changed the fight completely, and IMO he did it on purpose. Ok since I have already pissed off the huggers by disagreeing, here it is SHANE MOSELY IS GOING TO WHIP HIS ASS!!!!!!

[Relentless]

LOL at the Cotto nut huggers. No one knows if he did it on purpose or not. BUt you cannot deny it changed the fight. Zab was different after the first low blow then even worse after the second. That is not debateable. I never said Cotto was a dirty fighter, but it changed the fight completely, and IMO he did it on purpose. Ok since I have already pissed off the huggers by disagreeing, here it is SHANE MOSELY IS GOING TO WHIP HIS ASS!!!!!!

LOL at the cotto haters, if we are not supposed to defend cotto then who is?? you?

why didn't the fight change when cotto was hit low and headbutted a few times busting his eye and lip open??

and please :lol: dont flatter yourself you did not piss anybody off, this is a message board if you get pissed off then you are stooopid :patsch

and so what if mosley beats cotto? mosley is a great fighter, he beats alot of fighters.

:hi: :hi: :hi:

[Sug3]

LOL at the Cotto nut huggers. No one knows if he did it on purpose or not. BUt you cannot deny it changed the fight. Zab was different after the first low blow then even worse after the second. That is not debateable. I never said Cotto was a dirty fighter, but it changed the fight completely, and IMO he did it on purpose. Ok since I have already pissed off the huggers by disagreeing, here it is SHANE MOSELY IS GOING TO WHIP HIS ASS!!!!!!

Cotto doesn't have the heart to hold when he's hurt and when cotto get's stunned or in serious trouble he has to go low in order to recover,it's cotto's low blows that do the most damage.And it's ashame paulie survived and put up a better fight then quintana,bailey,corley,judah and even urkal roughed cotto up and he's not even a welterweight.

COTTO SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THIS FIGHT,BECAUSE HE'S GONNA TAKE THE WORSE BEATING OF HIS LIFE IN FRONT OF ALOT OF HIS FANS AND THAT MY FRIEND=COTTO WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.

[Relentless]

Cotto doesn't have the heart to hold when he's hurt and when cotto get's stunned or in serious trouble he has to go low in order to recover,it's cotto's low blows that do the most damage.And it's ashame paulie survived and put up a better fight then quintana,bailey,corley,judah and even urkal roughed cotto up and he's not even a welterweight.

COTTO SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THIS FIGHT,BECAUSE HE'S GONNA TAKE THE WORSE BEATING OF HIS LIFE IN FRONT OF ALOT OF HIS FANS AND THAT MY FRIEND=COTTO WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.

after cotto was stunned in the first round, around 30 seconds later he threw the first low blow, so he waited that long to throw a punch??

and if urkal isn't a welterweight then neither is cotto, and why is it a shame paulie survived??

[Caper]

Cotto doesn't have the heart to hold when he's hurt and when cotto get's stunned or in serious trouble he has to go low in order to recover,it's cotto's low blows that do the most damage.And it's ashame paulie survived and put up a better fight then quintana,bailey,corley,judah and even urkal roughed cotto up and he's not even a welterweight.

COTTO SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT THIS FIGHT,BECAUSE HE'S GONNA TAKE THE WORSE BEATING OF HIS LIFE IN FRONT OF ALOT OF HIS FANS AND THAT MY FRIEND=COTTO WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.

The more you type the less sense you make.

[Unchained]

LOL at the cotto haters, if we are not supposed to defend cotto then who is?? you?

why didn't the fight change when cotto was hit low and headbutted a few times busting his eye and lip open??

and please :lol: dont flatter yourself you did not piss anybody off, this is a message board if you get pissed off then you are stooopid :patsch

and so what if mosley beats cotto? mosley is a great fighter, he beats alot of fighters.

:hi: :hi: :hi:

I am not a Cotto Hater. It is just my opinion that he low blowed Zab on purpose. I think he is a very good fighter and seems to be a good guy all around. Just because you like him doesn't mean you have to be blind to it when he clearly fouls to his benefit.:good

[Relentless]

I am not a Cotto Hater. It is just my opinion that he low blowed Zab on purpose. I think he is a very good fighter and seems to be a good guy all around. Just because you like him doesn't mean you have to be blind to it when he clearly fouls to his benefit.:good

i can understand you thinking the second one was intentional but the first one was clearly accidental, he was out of trouble 30 seconds after he got rock he throw a 1-2 left hook to the body combination and it landed near zabs groin area, if it was so painful zab wouldn't have taken 2-3 seconds to reacts, he would have went down immediately

[He Hate Me]

Zab judah is no angel and has a history of not playing so clean. Low blows are part of the sport and are strategically utilized, these are world class precision athletes. RELENTLESS I understand cotto is your favorite boxer and all, by not acknowleging that cotto is capable of utilizing these veteran tactics, your credibility comes into question. We all have a right to disagree and make valid points and counter points. I critique my favorite fighters with transparency and unfortunatly cotto has become your deity and you can't look past that.

[Sinew]

All I know is that Zab low blowed Mayweather on purposeSame here.


But anyway... Yes Cotto did it on purpose.

[the_what]

Its simple. Cotto was not in trouble when the low blows took place. They were an accident.

[He Hate Me]

If he turns out to go there with mosley we will look back on this fight.

[Toopretty]

Cotto never threw low before..Now all of a sudden he throws low twice against A guy that stunned him and WAS UNLOADiNG ON HIM. The first low blow was not intentional the second was for damned sure...Cotto fans are a bunch of idiots...I like Cotto....he threw fucking low...oh well...he was stunned and you dont try to land not so hard liver or body shots when somebody is trying to take you out of there. If Cotto was bombing back at judah when judah went on the attack..then you got a point...but he was dazed......

[Lance_Uppercut]

Its simple. Cotto was not in trouble when the low blows took place. They were an accident.


Amen!!:deal

I bet 90% of those saying he did picked Zab anyway...

[teekay00]

in the 11th when Zab got knocked down, Cotto was stepping on his foot. It looks like Zab was trying to pick it up and get a better position but he got hit again he tripped and fell. watch it again on youtube.

[liljp361]

yes.

[He Hate Me]

of course he did.

[Relentless]

of course he did.

soooo... what was the point of bumping your thread?

you asked the question, you answered it, its finished.

[He Hate Me]

soooo... what was the point of bumping your thread?

you asked the question, you answered it, its finished.

I want some objective opinions, your thread got bumped up and I wanted both sides covered if thats ok with you.

[Relentless]

well i did not bump my own thread, you answered your own question so what more do you want, and no you do not want objective opinions because everytime someone disagrees with you, you say their biased.

[He Hate Me]

well i did not bump my own thread, you answered your own question so what more do you want, and no you do not want objective opinions because everytime someone disagrees with you, you say their biased.

kill yourself. :good

[Relentless]

:lol: now your playing the 'i dont have anything to say so let me change the subject and insult him'

hey you live in new york right?? maybe you can get 50cent to give you a chili dogging?

[He Hate Me]

:lol: now your playing the 'i dont have anything to say so let me change the subject and insult him'

hey you live in new york right?? maybe you can get 50cent to give you a chili dogging?

Relentless we love to disagree and thats fine, I like your loyalty but it's to a fault. If cotto beats mosley I will stop hurting your feelings, but until then be a man and accept constructive criticism of cotto.

[Relentless]

:lol: man dont even kid yourself, unlike you i dont get my feelings hurt over the interweb.

[He Hate Me]

As a test I even complimented you and you focus on one point, relentless you are a classic definition of a cynic, look it up i will give you a few minutes.

[Drew101]

in the 11th when Zab got knocked down, Cotto was stepping on his foot. It looks like Zab was trying to pick it up and get a better position but he got hit again he tripped and fell. watch it again on youtube.

Saw it multiple times on youtube, and here's the kd sequence:

* Cotto connects with a jab. No contact between the lead foot of either fighter.

* Cotto connects with a right hand that buckles Zab's knees. No contact again with the feet. This punch sets Zab up nicely for the followup, which is...

*Cotto's left uppercut, which connects on the chin. Zab stiffens, and begins to fall backward- as a result of the punch, and it's only then that there's contact between the fighter's feet.

*Judah continues to fall toward the canvas as Cotto proceeds to land a cuffing right hand, and then a final left hook to the temple. The feet do appear to cross slightly during this sequence, but, again, Judah was already on the way down as a result of the perfectly clean three punches that landed prior to that point.

*So, it's a legitimate kd. No tripping, or stepping on the feet caused Zab to fall to the mat.

Thanks, though, because it gave me the opportunity to remind myself how nice that combination actually was.

[ayala]

those low blows were zabs fault for trying to spin out of the way using cottos head and he cant use that as an excuse for losing because he was offered extra time to recover and he didn't take it and as for cotto doing this delirately when he is hurt it wont happen because he is a real man.