Best HW not to win a title in the Alpha Soup era

[TIGEREDGE]

id say this era starts around 1984. which hw was the best to not win a version of the belt. Ike Ibeabuchi doesnt really count because of his problems.

Razor Ruddock was unlucky in the time he came

i always thought tua and golota would win a title. what underachievers. they should of well won a strap.

[mr. magoo]

I wouldn't call him THE BEST, but Marvis Frazier was a pretty good fighter. Sure, he fell terribly short against Holmes and Tyson, but was horribly unprepared to fight both, and was mismanaged by his father Joe in my honest opinion. He had respectable wins over Broad, Bugner, Tillis, Smith, Ribalta, Benton, Banjo, etc. Hell, even Steve Zouski wasn't a half bad win considering that he was 21-1 at the time, and Frazier was in like his 4th pro fight? Not a bad run for a guy who retired around 19-2.

[Cachibatches]

For me its ruddock. Ike is a little overrated- people forget that the two admittedly great wins were struggles (even Byrd was ahead on cards) against guys that others blew out. He would have been a champ, but not a great one.

How about Tyrell Biggs, just to add another naem to the list.

For that matter, Quarry fought partially during an alphabet era when there was the WBA and New York versions of the titles.

[OBCboxer]

I would say Golota. He was damn good but he was in one of the best eras of HW boxing and he didn't have the mental stability to make it.

[My2Sense]

Definitely Tua I'd say.

KO'd Ruiz and Moorer in 1 round each, also beat Rahman and Maskaev, all former or future belt holders. Only shot at a title came against the ATG Lewis.

[MRBILL]

1. Ruddock
2. Golota
3. Tua
4. James Tillis
5. Gerry Cooney

SR.BILLARDO

[MRBILL]

I am shocked Razor Ruddock has NOT made a COMEBACK over the last couple of yrs or so....... I hear that Razor Ruddock was mismanaged and misguided by his team and brother Delroy Ruddock, and that "Razorman" is now broke and keeping a low-profile..... What else is new??? Razor Ruddock is only 45 this year..... But I bet he's 300 pounds of goo also in 2009...... GEEZ!!

MR.BILL

[flamengo]

I would say Golota. He was damn good but he was in one of the best eras of HW boxing and he didn't have the mental stability to make it.

He could have been anything with some stability in the brains..

[The Kurgan]

The amazing thing about Ruddock was that he didn't even challenge for a major title: the closest he came was an IBC title fight against Morrison.

[PowerPuncher]

Tua or Ibeabuchi

[Jear]

The amazing thing about Ruddock was that he didn't even challenge for a major title: the closest he came was an IBC title fight against Morrison.



Ruddock had actually won this title when he beat Phil Jackson but relinquished it to fight Lennox Lewis in a WBC title eliminator

[The Kurgan]

Ruddock had actually won this title when he beat Phil Jackson but relinquished it to fight Lennox Lewis in a WBC title eliminator

So technically Ruddock doesn't qualify for this thread.

[mr. magoo]

1. Ruddock
2. Golota
3. Tua
4. James Tillis
5. Gerry Cooney

SR.BILLARDO


:huh

[Muchmoore]

Ike, and the Tuaman are 1 and 2. Ruddock is a little behind them and Cooney is there too.

[round15]

The amazing thing about Ruddock was that he didn't even challenge for a major title: the closest he came was an IBC title fight against Morrison.

Many people found excuses not to get in the ring against Ruddock. His left hook-uppercut hybrid smash was a nasty punch, but his nickname came from Chuvalo and Ungerman because of his Razor sharp jab.

Other than Ruddock, I'd say Jerry Quarry was one of the best heavyweights not to become champion.

Honourable mention, George Chuvalo, even though he pre-Alphabet Soup boxing.

[biglads]

I always liked 'Mister' Snipes

[jont]

I thought that Carl Williams was going to be really good...after the fight with Larry Holmes i figured he would win a splintered version of the title but he did not..had all the offensive tools but his defense was not good enough

[Rebel-INS]

Tua and Golota.

[Bigcat]

Someone just mentioned it right there...


Carl the truth Williams.. He was a BIG star when he was on fire and in his prime...

[Seamus]

Someone just mentioned it right there...


Carl the truth Williams.. He was a BIG star when he was on fire and in his prime...

beat me to it.

[Best User Ever]

Golota was a really good fighter with a great jab and great reflexablity, and great tactility especially for such a big guy. The guy had all the physical abilities to become the world champion. He could have definalty beaten guys like Lewis, Brewster, Grant, and Tyson. His biggest letdown was the mental aspect of the game. Golota also didn't know on how to deal with speed(Brewster, Tyson, Lewis). He always struggled with a faster fighter couse he didn't know how to deal with them...and it always either led to early KO loses.

Reasons why Lewis was always superior to all HWs in his time. He was pretty much the complete package.

Also, imo he did get screwed in his fights vs Byrd and Ruiz. In many eyes he was the WBA and IBF champion of the world, such a pity.

[Beeston Brawler]

Golota was a choker....

Tua would be high on the list.... Ibeabuchi obviously...

[Bigcat]

Carl....

or Razor for me....