World Champions who lost their first bout.

[light-welter]

I only know of two world champs who lost their first fightm Bernard Hopkins and Henry Armstrong. Anyone else know of world champions who lost their first fight or fights?

[bladerunner]

Alexis Arguello lost by TKO in the first round of his first fight.

[flamengo]

Henry Armstrong.... KO by 3 in his first bout..

There are squillions more.

They are champions because they recovered.

[flamengo]

One of the greatest boxers ever.... Vaulter Durante... lost his first 2 bouts....


Check his record...

[GPater11093]

heres complete list

Bruno Acari
Alexis Arguello
Henry Armstrong
Rodolpho Blanco
Jack Britton
Joe Brown
Victor Callejas
Miguel Canto
Freddie Castillo
Jesus Castillo
Frank Cedeno
Chang-Ho Choi
Billy Conn
Roberto Cruz
Carlos Teo Cruz
Pipino Cuevas
Joe Dundee
Harry Forbes
Nestor Giovanni
S.T Gordon
Bernard Hopkins
Daniel Jimenez
Sung Jun Kim
Tae Shik Kim
Pone Kingpetche
Tippy Larkin
Alfredo Layne
Benny Leonard
Benny Lynch
Tacy Macalos
Eddie Martin
Manny Melchor
Johnny Nelson (lost his first 6)
Manuel Ortiz
Freddie Pendleton
Eddie Perkins
James 'Bonecrusher' Smith
Seung II Suk
Wilfredo Vasquez
Mike Weaver
Prince Charles Williams

champions who got a draw on their debut

Pedro Adigue
Rolando Bohol
Jeff Chandler
Tae Il Chung
Victor Cordoba
Jack Dempsey
Jack Dillon
Ralph Dupas
Angle Espada
Johnny Famechon
Perico Fernandez
Ceferino Garcia
Wilfredo Gomez
Pete Herman
Soo Hwan Hong
Beau Jack
Matty Mathews
Dave McAuley
Tod Morgan
Billy Papke
Young Perez
Bernardo Pinango
Dwight Muhammed Qawi
Rigoberto Riasco
Arnold Taylor
Aquilas Guzman
Buddy McGirt
Jack Rodriguez
Gabriel Ruelas
Johnny Tapia

[Flea Man]

Rafael Marquez was tko'd in his first bout, matched very hard against a former world title contender.

[GPater11093]

Rafael Marquez was tko'd in his first bout, matched very hard against a former world title contender.

Juan Manuel Marquez was DQ'd in his first bout aswell

[Flea Man]

Very true. Arguello must've just been a boy in his first fight, he had a great chin.

[turpinr]

heres complete list

Bruno Acari
Alexis Arguello
Henry Armstrong
Rodolpho Blanco
Jack Britton
Joe Brown
Victor Callejas
Miguel Canto
Freddie Castillo
Jesus Castillo
Frank Cedeno
Chang-Ho Choi
Billy Conn
Roberto Cruz
Carlos Teo Cruz
Pipino Cuevas
Joe Dundee
Harry Forbes
Nestor Giovanni
S.T Gordon
Bernard Hopkins
Daniel Jimenez
Sung Jun Kim
Tae Shik Kim
Pone Kingpetche
Tippy Larkin
Alfredo Layne
Benny Leonard
Benny Lynch
Tacy Macalos
Eddie Martin
Manny Melchor
Johnny Nelson (lost his first 6)
Manuel Ortiz
Freddie Pendleton
Eddie Perkins
James 'Bonecrusher' Smith
Seung II Suk
Wilfredo Vasquez
Mike Weaver
Prince Charles Williams

champions who got a draw on their debut

Pedro Adigue
Rolando Bohol
Jeff Chandler
Tae Il Chung
Victor Cordoba
Jack Dempsey
Jack Dillon
Ralph Dupas
Angle Espada
Johnny Famechon
Perico Fernandez
Ceferino Garcia
Wilfredo Gomez
Pete Herman
Soo Hwan Hong
Beau Jack
Matty Mathews
Dave McAuley
Tod Morgan
Billy Papke
Young Perez
Bernardo Pinango
Dwight Muhammed Qawi
Rigoberto Riasco
Arnold Taylor
Aquilas Guzman
Buddy McGirt
Jack Rodriguez
Gabriel Ruelas
Johnny Tapia


gpater ,are you related to nat fleischer ?? :good:good

[GPater11093]

gpater ,are you related to nat fleischer ?? :good:good

not that i know of

i just have abig book of facts

[turpinr]

not that i know of

i just have abig book of facts

you've spoiled it now,you should have said you just knew !!
when are you having the great benny lynch as your avatar ??

[GPater11093]

you've spoiled it now,you should have said you just knew !!
when are you having the great benny lynch as your avatar ??

not sure benny lynch is quite a commmon avatar i like to have a unique avater but i have a great pic of Lynch and wilde i will put up as my avater

[turpinr]

are they together leant on the ropes ??

[turpinr]

D'oh

[GPater11093]

are they together leant on the ropes ??

thats it now

[turpinr]

imo lynch is the best fly-weight ever.peter kane is also up there !!

[GPater11093]

imo lynch is the best fly-weight ever.peter kane is also up there !!

there all good but Wilde is probably the best

[mcvey]

I only know of two world champs who lost their first fightm Bernard Hopkins and Henry Armstrong. Anyone else know of world champions who lost their first fight or fights?

There have been loads ,one of the premier ones was Benny Leonard tkod in his debut 3rds ,by Mickey Finnegan.

[booradley]

Alexis Arguello lost by TKO in the first round of his first fight.

That's the one I was going to mention. Argello's early career bears little resemblence to the 3 division champ and ATG we know him as.

[TommyV]

Nelson lost his first 3 not first 6. :smile

[PH|LLA]

Donaire lost his 2nd bout

[GPater11093]

Nelson lost his first 3 not first 6. :smile

but his early career is that of a journy man though

[Drew101]

Victor Burgos, who would win the IBF light flyweight strap, lost his first four bouts.

[TBooze]

heres complete list

Bruno Acari
Alexis Arguello
Henry Armstrong
Rodolpho Blanco
Jack Britton
Joe Brown
Victor Callejas
Miguel Canto
Freddie Castillo
Jesus Castillo
Frank Cedeno
Chang-Ho Choi
Billy Conn
Roberto Cruz
Carlos Teo Cruz
Pipino Cuevas
Joe Dundee
Harry Forbes
Nestor Giovanni
S.T Gordon
Bernard Hopkins
Daniel Jimenez
Sung Jun Kim
Tae Shik Kim
Pone Kingpetche
Tippy Larkin
Alfredo Layne
Benny Leonard
Benny Lynch
Tacy Macalos
Eddie Martin
Manny Melchor
Johnny Nelson (lost his first 6)
Manuel Ortiz
Freddie Pendleton
Eddie Perkins
James 'Bonecrusher' Smith
Seung II Suk
Wilfredo Vasquez
Mike Weaver
Prince Charles Williams

champions who got a draw on their debut

Pedro Adigue
Rolando Bohol
Jeff Chandler
Tae Il Chung
Victor Cordoba
Jack Dempsey
Jack Dillon
Ralph Dupas
Angle Espada
Johnny Famechon
Perico Fernandez
Ceferino Garcia
Wilfredo Gomez
Pete Herman
Soo Hwan Hong
Beau Jack
Matty Mathews
Dave McAuley
Tod Morgan
Billy Papke
Young Perez
Bernardo Pinango
Dwight Muhammed Qawi
Rigoberto Riasco
Arnold Taylor
Aquilas Guzman
Buddy McGirt
Jack Rodriguez
Gabriel Ruelas
Johnny Tapia

Thank you Bob Mee! (The Ultimate Enclopedia of Boxing Facts; (Page 225); by Bob Mee and the late Harry Mullan); it is a good read!

[GPater11093]

Than you Bob Mee! (The Ultimate Enclopedia of Boxing Facts; (Page 225); by Bob Mee and the late Harry Mullan); it is a good read!

thats the one mate, great great book use it everyday

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Israel Vasquez lost his 1st by KO as well.

[warrior85]

juan manuel marquez-although it was a b.s dq