John Murray...

[abzmanc]

Anyone know what this idiot is up to? Rumours about him lining up a bout with Euro Champ Mezacche.

[kosaros]

Why is he an idiot?

Anyway I feel sorry for him because he should be at least preparing for a scheduled fight, but hennessy cannot seem to manage anyone else apart from froch and tyson fury at the moment.

[Beeston Brawler]

His promoter is currently trying to decide the paper in which he states that TV have ignored his requests for discussions about viewing rights..... once he has decided which TV company has stitched him up.

Even his trainer has voiced his concerns about his inactivity.... time he went elsewhere. His brother is with Hatton Promotions, why not try that?

[kosaros]

I think he should join Maloney, he can get some good exposure on sky tv and Maloney seems to be able to get his fighters european title shots.

[LHL]

Is Thaxton not his his mandatory for the brit title?

[abzmanc]

Well I dont normally criticise boxers in such a way...so I think Im allowed to slate at least one! Main reason I dislike him is his cockeyness after really having accomplished bugger all and constant calling out of a supposed 'amateurish' and 'chinny' fighter. Woulda liked to see Jono vs Murray.

[TommyV]

I real sorry for him. Hennessey has fucked him over, same with Froch, just because he's concentrating on Tyson Fury. Rumours are he's fighting Jon Thaxton, according to Jono himself.

[slip&counter]

fighting thaxton for the brit strap in a few months, good fight

[abzmanc]

Hmmm..... if this does materialise it will be great... Would hope Jono can KO him.

[faisal]

Hmmm..... if this does materialise it will be great... Would hope Jono can KO him.
hope is the only thing jono will have murray will twat him and he'd also destroy con,

[beecho1988]

Murray KOs Thaxton inside 6

[rumour24tiger]

Well I dont normally criticise boxers in such a way...so I think Im allowed to slate at least one! Main reason I dislike him is his cockeyness after really having accomplished bugger all and constant calling out of a supposed 'amateurish' and 'chinny' fighter. Woulda liked to see Jono vs Murray.He's stopped 2 British challengers who also happen to be top 10 ranked in the EBU. He has a promoter who doesn't get him the fights he wants.

When did he last call Khan out? I've heard nothing. There is almost nothing in the way of publicity with John Murray. You seem to be writing nonsense.

I doubt you'd like to see Murray v Thaxton. Thaxton has been in Murray's way and held back Murray's career big time. If the fight happens Murray would take it out on him with a decisive win.

When ppl start shit talking a boxer, as you are, it's actually a sign that they are achieving something.

[Mr T.]

Thaxton wud defeat murray who has no defence at all.

[abzmanc]

He's stopped 2 British challengers who also happen to be top 10 ranked in the EBU. He has a promoter who doesn't get him the fights he wants.

When did he last call Khan out? I've heard nothing. There is almost nothing in the way of publicity with John Murray. You seem to be writing nonsense.

I doubt you'd like to see Murray v Thaxton. Thaxton has been in Murray's way and held back Murray's career big time. If the fight happens Murray would take it out on him with a decisive win.

When ppl start shit talking a boxer, as you are, it's actually a sign that they are achieving something.

What planet are you on? You've obv never seen ITV's big fight shows, because if you did when Murray was fighting you would have heard Murray talking about Khan. He even mentioned that he would 'KO Khan in 2'

And since when did you know about my personal preferences? For quite some time now I've been looking forward to a potential matchup between the two, unless you can provide any evidence to suggest otherwise... STFU.

As I previously mentioned...I don't normally shit talk boxers... however Murray is an exception... If your logic about shit talking and achievements is anything to go by then the man he's been calling out.... well he must be achieving a fair bit.

[rumour24tiger]

So he can't call Khan out? Wow, that is SO out of order. For a boxer to call out another boxer. The arrogance. Hey, he deserves to get knocked out for that! Face it, you are the shit talker, and you are the idiot.

Murray is a hard worker, with underrated skills, who breaks down opponents. He has been badly promoted, yet still he's stopped 2 British title challengers, Meager and McAllister.

Your personal preference seems to be seeing Murray get KO'd. So you would be let down if they ever let him at the wonky forever off balance Thaxton.

[abzmanc]

Excellent. Lets give him an MBE while we're there. 'Underrated Skills'? Maybe I am a bit harsh on him.. but I haven't seen evidence of this.. yes he has broken down decent domestic opponents who don't have much punching power and therefore walks right through them.

Your right about my real preference... probably wont happen with old man Thaxton, but with his punch, you never do know.

You seem to have an issue with me disliking one boxer.... yet there's plenty more bashing daily about other, more successful boxers... so pardon me if i dont really give a shit.

[cityofgod]

people fart and whinge about murray not fighting often...

...but didnt he pull out of the original mcallister date with a huge gash in his head?

[brown bomber]

Murray needs a new promotor, that seems really evident. Maloney would be great.

[icemax]

Murray is a hard worker, with underrated skills, who breaks down opponents. He has been badly promoted, yet still he's stopped 2 British title challengers, Meager and McAllister.


John Murray may be a hard worker, but that does not make him anything other than a slightly above average fighter. His wins over Meager and McAllister were preceded by a terrible gimme against a 4-8 fighter in Al Hamidi, Terry O'Connor should be thoroughly ashamed of himself.

Murrays "defining" fights are also questionable...a relatively inactive Meager looked absolutely awful and retired after the fight, and McAllister was causing Murray real problems and would have done better for himself if he hadn't been fucking about so much, hands down, gurning. The long and short of it is that John Murray is a half decent fighter but is too inconsistant to go beyond domestic level.

[rumour24tiger]

Excellent. Lets give him an MBE while we're there. 'Underrated Skills'? Maybe I am a bit harsh on him.. but I haven't seen evidence of this.. yes he has broken down decent domestic opponents who don't have much punching power and therefore walks right through them.

Your right about my real preference... probably wont happen with old man Thaxton, but with his punch, you never do know.

You seem to have an issue with me disliking one boxer.... yet there's plenty more bashing daily about other, more successful boxers... so pardon me if i dont really give a shit.His skills are underrated. For instance look athow he got McAllister to drop his guard, driving straight rights into the midsection then coming up with the hooks to the head.

Khan has got all the build up, all the publicity, and yet still his fights are almost all unsatisfying. Khan got world rated from beating Earl and St Clair. Tell me Murray couldn't do the same thing.

[rumour24tiger]

John Murray may be a hard worker, but that does not make him anything other than a slightly above average fighter. His wins over Meager and McAllister were preceded by a terrible gimme against a 4-8 fighter in Al Hamidi, Terry O'Connor should be thoroughly ashamed of himself.

Murrays "defining" fights are also questionable...a relatively inactive Meager looked absolutely awful and retired after the fight, and McAllister was causing Murray real problems and would have done better for himself if he hadn't been fucking about so much, hands down, gurning. The long and short of it is that John Murray is a half decent fighter but is too inconsistant to go beyond domestic level.He looked anything but "above average" vs Meager. It was an outstanding domination and Meager didn't look shot in his fight in Doncaster, a fight or 2 before the Murray fight. Meager retired cos he fought Murray on the inside and got a beating for it.

Look how Khan struggles vs an absolutely shot blown up slow but determined Michael Gomez.

Murray wore down a very quick pesky fighter in McAllister. If you care to look you may see that Murray had something to do with Lee dropping his hands. Check out Murray's methodical body attack, particularly the right to the body. McAllister was giving him priblems? Gee whizz. A boxer actually given problems during a FIGHT. Well, if you are given problems then you work out the problem and win the fight. Last I remembered, McAllister was all but broken in half in about round 7 or 8, from a left hook.

Murray-Hamidid wasn't a bad decision. You're passing off your opinion as an absolute truth/fact. After Fewkes pulled out and didn't know who he was fighting til the morning of the fight. Hamidi has spoiled many good fighters, Bhatia, Simpson, etc etc.

Murray has great potential, but why isn't he being kept busy, why isn't he being given the fights that will make him look good, the fights that will put him up the ladder.

[threethirteen]

Hamidi's actually very very good. Don't let the record fool you. he takes short notice fights for short notice money and ALWAYS gives the guy a good argument. Murray did quite well against him, I thought.

[dwilson]

Murray is a decent domestic standard fighter but anyone at Euro level or the god like Khan would destroy him.

[rumour24tiger]

One thing about Murray. Let's say he gets the Thaxton fight. Thaxton is a lihgt welter who has come down. McAllister is a light welter who has come down. Even Hickman was a light welter. Fewkes, who ended up pulling out, another light welter. Murray has no problem taking on bigger men.

I reckon Murray can go British, European and win a version of a world title. If he was kept busy, smashing up aggressive guys like Castle, Johanesson, ie guys that would make him look good/made for him, everyone would be raving about him. I like Murray cos of his strength, patience, and the fact that he turns his shots over properly, gets the right weight behind the shots. He's much better than a lot of you give him credit for.

Khan has yet to really take on a solid real lightweight apart from the gy who blew him away. Yes he has been given fringe world class opponents (Prescott, St Clair, a blown up tiny old Barrera) and all of a sudden he's fighting a light welter for a world title. Amir could be in for a tough time, but no doubt his promoter will et him every possible advantage.

[LosG]

Good domestic fighter, dont see him going much further. I think Hennesey messed around trying to get a fight with Prescott and once that failed to materialise nothing else seemed to have been lined up. Cant see him fighting Jono, expect a walk in the park British defence in his hometown soon.

[rumour24tiger]

I'm not sure what it is with Murray and Hennessy. They don't seem like they match up so well. I think it's from when Hennessy promoted Meager. Thaxton beat Meager, and Thaxton did his best work under Hennessy. Hennessy seems to be close with the Ingles and Ingle-connected fighters. Hennessy gets a lot of stick, seems to be a lot of ill feeling to him in the business, so the ppl who are "with him" will get looked after better. So we can see why Thaxton is the priority. But this is possibly coming at the expense of Murray's development.

Murray has worn the Hatton logo in fights and this must be annoying for Hennessy. Murray's brother went to Hatton Promotions, and ppl reckon Murray will do that also. Manchester fighter, friends, and all. Hatton, just starting out as promoter, could do with a really good British champ. So if that's the case, maybe Mick H doesn't want to go the extra mile for a fighter who he thinks will leave him. I don't know. Murray doesn't seem at all happy about how his career is being handled - especially in terms of activity and title chances - as seen in Terry D's article a month or two back.

Murray is better than just domestic level. Whoever the promoter, I'm sure Murray will prove himself step by step. If he gets Thaxton, he'll win, and then it'll be Murray whom Hennessy puts in for the EBU title hopefully. & if JM wins that, then it's another move up the ladder.

Maybe there wasn't the money for a Prescott fight. Prescott's career is supposed to be blocked by ******, anyway. A potentially big hassle.