Khan admits he was killing himself making 135..

[Darni187]

In an video interview with the BBC Khan says he will blend in better at 140, feel stronger, and not killing himself making the weight.

I have been making the point that Khan is weight drained at 135, and at 140 Khan will be in better condition all round and mainly hydration levels should be spot on.


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[achillesthegreat]

At 140, give his proportioning, he should be stronger on all fronts. Some get away with draining but many guys like Corrales and Cotto make huge leaps in ability because they are not drained.

I love it how every fighter is fine at the weight until they move up and then they will be 'stronger'.

I like a fighter like Floyd who after losing 6 pounds for the Chavez fight was saying it's too hard to make the weight and he's leaving 130. Not many fighters say 6 pounds is too hard to lose the weight.

Any more than about 5 pounds and fighters are not able to be 100%.

[Darni187]

At 140, give his proportioning, he should be stronger on all fronts. Some get away with draining but many guys like Corrales and Cotto make huge leaps in ability because they are not drained.

I love it how every fighter is fine at the weight until they move up and then they will be 'stronger'.

I like a fighter like Floyd who after losing 6 pounds for the Chavez fight was saying it's too hard to make the weight and he's leaving 130. Not many fighters say 6 pounds is too hard to lose the weight.

Any more than about 5 pounds and fighters are not able to be 100%.

Floyd is very picky with his weight, he is a fighter I feel who understands body weight is very important and can be a key factor on how a fighter feels on fight night and the effect it can have in the ring if the weight is not right.

I think right now he is trying to get JMM to fight at around 145 i think, but boxrec say the fight is made, i dont know.

[TheUnstoppable]

Khan is a funny one with me; on one hand I should be liking him - a talented Brit who could have a great future, but on the other hand; I cannot stand the guy!

I'm interested to see how his new weight campaign will go: will his increase in strength etc be enough to overcome the fact that his opponents will be stronger, bigger and more durable?

edit: in that video he came across FAR better than he normally does; seems a lot more humble and a bit more mature. Also seems to talk like a dedicated boxer, not an annoying kid with a bunch of money sat in his bank.

[dwilson]

I doubt any boxer under 154 can beat a non weight drained Amir Khan.

[TommyV]

He fought Rachid Drilzane at 140 and didn't look much better.

[TFFP]

In an video interview with the BBC Khan says he will blend in better at 140, feel stronger, and not killing himself making the weight.

I have been making the point that Khan is weight drained at 135, and at 140 Khan will be in better condition all round and manly hydration levels should be spot on.


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:huh

Your grip on Khan's balls is tight.

[Beeston Brawler]

I wish people would stop saying he has fought at 140 - it was a meaningless fight, for which he simply didn't have to lose the last 2/3lbs.

If this rule was followed, Hatton would have fought a dozen times at 147, and Berto made his debut at 168!

He may be stronger at 140 than at 135, but by and large, the punches will be harder as well - no matter how softly ****** tries to match him.

His chin will always be his achilles heel.

[TFFP]

Don't worry about logic. Forget they punch harder. All that matters is that because Khan has to lose 5 less lbs he will be able to take such harder punches from world class fighters, regardless of being knocked down by a former super feather that isn't a puncher. It's all an illusion. Expect Khan to put McCall to shame at light welter.

[MaliSlamusrex]

Well he had 1% body fat, I hear people should die at 1% body fat it makes sense.

[TheUnstoppable]

His 1% BF was absolute bullshit, even peak bodybuilders (a handful at most) have reached 2.5% and even then that was for a few hours.

[Darni187]

His 1% BF was absolute bullshit, even peak bodybuilders (a handful at most) have reached 2.5% and even then that was for a few hours.

It was 3% for one of his fights, true or not i dont know.

[TheUnstoppable]

3% still seems a push but isn't impossible. Holyfield was staying at CW with a BF% of about 3.6, so it's do-able for a well conditioned athlete.

[achillesthegreat]

Floyd is very picky with his weight, he is a fighter I feel who understands body weight is very important and can be a key factor on how a fighter feels on fight night and the effect it can have in the ring if the weight is not right.

I think right now he is trying to get JMM to fight at around 145 i think, but boxrec say the fight is made, i dont know.

I think if Floyd wants to get real rewards for that fight then he has to make it at 139. 139 is only 4 pounds north for JMM so people won't make excuses about JMM being a small man. JMM as a WW isn't impressive and might get criticised because he is avoiding so many good 147s.

Make the fight at 139. Even 140 is too high because psychologically people are thinking up a division. 139 sounds like a catchweight and gives it a more even appeal.

[achillesthegreat]

Khan gets stupid hatred i.e. when he said speed beats any style. When I watched the video, I didn't hear him say that. I hear him say speed can beat nearly/most styles and there is nothing wrong with that comment. Hide, Froch and co hate on him but he wishes them good luck in their big fights.

[kieron]

Another factor people are neglecting here is age. He was a puppy when he turned pro and everyone's muscle mass generally increases throught your twenties so maaybe he has now just got to that threshold of not being able to effectively make lightweight

[nufc16]

i struggle to believe weight making was ever a problem. i mean, normally when i fighter gets beat badly it's the first excuse that gets used, yet i dont remember anyone from the khan camp saying anything about weight making problems after the prescott defeat, would've been the perfect excuse to move up into a weaker division aswell.

[brown bomber]

Truth is he MUST be struggling.... He's a big lad and when I saw him about 3-4 years ago at a boxing show he was nearly as big as me. I know how difficult it was to drop in weight and to be honest its a very wise move stepping up. Making a very low weight can be a benefit if your trading your strength against you opponents like Gomez-Hatton-Jamie Moore etc, but in Khans case its clear he is going to be most succesful using a box and move strategy. I think the move up in weight is entirely due to the concept of developing his leg muscles so that he can be explosively mobile for 12 rounds. It makes perfect sense..

[Beeston Brawler]

I can't believe how thin his legs were.... he looked ridiculous.

Not sure why he stayed at 135 for so long... ****** was hyping him as the British version of SRL/DLH i.e. winning titles at plenty of different weights. Couldn't imagine him taking the best shots of the 154lb'ers though.

[Darni187]

Truth is he MUST be struggling.... He's a big lad and when I saw him about 3-4 years ago at a boxing show he was nearly as big as me. I know how difficult it was to drop in weight and to be honest its a very wise move stepping up. Making a very low weight can be a benefit if your trading your strength against you opponents like Gomez-Hatton-Jamie Moore etc, but in Khans case its clear he is going to be most succesful using a box and move strategy. I think the move up in weight is entirely due to the concept of developing his leg muscles so that he can be explosively mobile for 12 rounds. It makes perfect sense..

Yep 140 is the right weight, they can bulk up them skinny legs a bit more now.

[TFFP]

Khan will get knocked the fuck out against Tim Bradley, Kendall Holt, Juan Urango or Vic Ortiz.

This is the only fight at a world class level he has a hope in hell because Kotelnik is not very powerful or dynamic. Accurate and precise yes, but he's not very explosive, he's predictable, if Khan utilizes a lot of movement he can avoid nearly everything Kotelnik throws. It will be interesting in the later stages if he tires a little, that will bring their physical levels closer. It will be interesting if and when he gets hit, he surely will at some stage.

If he wins, I expect we'll hear "Khan looks great at 140...etc", but the reality is he will be KTFO shortly.

[Grant1]

Truth is he MUST be struggling.... He's a big lad and when I saw him about 3-4 years ago at a boxing show he was nearly as big as me. I know how difficult it was to drop in weight and to be honest its a very wise move stepping up. Making a very low weight can be a benefit if your trading your strength against you opponents like Gomez-Hatton-Jamie Moore etc, but in Khans case its clear he is going to be most succesful using a box and move strategy. I think the move up in weight is entirely due to the concept of developing his leg muscles so that he can be explosively mobile for 12 rounds. It makes perfect sense..

How much difference do you think 2.lb per leg can make?

Not being facetious, just genuinely interested whether you think it can make a difference.

[scurlaruntings]

Well he had 1% body fat, I hear people should die at 1% body fat it makes sense.Khan is an idiot. This story is nothing more than cobblers to justify his move up to 140 and a fight with a nobody like Kotelnik for a belt. If the belt wasnt available Kotelnik wouldn't have even got a sniff of Amir. Furthermore theres no one on planet earth apart from dead people who have a body fat ratio of 1%. Khan just talking without his brain engaging as usual.

[TFFP]

They can just program Khan's body to put on 2.5lbs per leg. Come on! :lol:

How about 2 on each 1 on his chin??

[Beeston Brawler]

I'd put 3 on his chin!

[Flea Man]

Kotelnik is a good, solid (if not concussive hitter) who is accurate and he has a few tricks up his sleeve too.

He is genuinely above European class, although is behind the likes of Holt and Torres even.

I think Tim Bradley, Holt, Torres AND Kotelnik all have the punch to stop Khan.

I think Kotelnik will get there first.

[xoborp]

Khan will get knocked the fuck out against Tim Bradley, Kendall Holt, Juan Urango or Vic Ortiz.

This is the only fight at a world class level he has a hope in hell because Kotelnik is not very powerful or dynamic. Accurate and precise yes, but he's not very explosive, he's predictable, if Khan utilizes a lot of movement he can avoid nearly everything Kotelnik throws. It will be interesting in the later stages if he tires a little, that will bring their physical levels closer. It will be interesting if and when he gets hit, he surely will at some stage.

If he wins, I expect we'll hear "Khan looks great at 140...etc", but the reality is he will be KTFO shortly.

I agree with you in most respects, and certainly the big punchers will not be losing any sleep over Khan, whilst he has looked good against faded and smaller men, when tagged correctly he goes over, i mean come on willie limond should have Khans name on his record with a W beside it, and he couldnt crack an egg with a sledge hammer, so whilst moving up to face Kotelnik, he is still facing a naturally bigger man, and if tagged correctly, he will go again, kotelnik may turn out not to be the easy and quickest route to a world title win that Khan feels he deserves.

And yes he will GKTFO soon, i only hope that it is Kotelnik that does it, to teach Khan a lesson for thinking that he is taking the asy option, the coward..

[brown bomber]

yo

[Carnage]

Khan's chin will always be a problem and it will always be risky him moving into higher class fights. Saying that I do believe he will be world champ, I think he will beat Kotelnik and I can see him beating some other good quality fighters, I think winning this fight may prove he is a good fighter and prove some of the haters wrong, lose it then back to the Fagens and Limmonds!
As for making the weight I don't think it would be that hard for Khan as it is only 5lbs.

[Grant1]

They can just program Khan's body to put on 2.5lbs per leg. Come on! :lol:

How about 2 on each 1 on his chin??

no of course, badly written post :lol:

my point was, how much difference is 5lb goibg to make to Khan's punch resistance?

i dont see it making a massive difference but people keep using it as if it's going to make a massive difference.

i just dont buy it.

[TheUnstoppable]

I don't but it either, 5lbs is nothing: he won't even put that mass on his body, it'll just mean it's less painful to have to lose that 5lbs. He'll come in exactly the same, but will just eat, drink and live a little different the day(s) before the fight.

[debaser]

This is the kind of shit I saw coming from him as soon as he realised he didn't have a hope in hell against the lightweight top 10. Look on the bbc website for Khan interviews and you will find one from not so long ago where he says that he has no problems making 135 and sometimes has to eat pizza slices to get up to the weight.

[iceferg]

He said he is going to move back down to lightweight after a few defences and he certainly never said he was killing himself to make the weight.

[achillesthegreat]

I'm not sure if Khan will move back down. If he makes some defences then I suspect he'll spend at least the next year at 140. When it comes time to lose an extra 5 pounds it'll be even more difficult to do, especially if he enjoys being stronger and fitter at 140.

[Darni187]

I'm not sure if Khan will move back down. If he makes some defences then I suspect he'll spend at least the next year at 140. When it comes time to lose an extra 5 pounds it'll be even more difficult to do, especially if he enjoys being stronger and fitter at 140.

Spot on if Khan wins the title and makes a few defences , he will not go back down, maybe in 2 years if things go well for him he can move up to 147 .