View Full Version : David Haye - Mouthy prick or great promoter?
debaser
04-24-2009, 09:22 AM
Just heard that Haye/Wlad is gonna be a 60,000 sell out. This is a remarkable achievement and is obviously gonna make all parties concerned a shed load of money.
You have to give Haye his props for this as his trash talking seems to have worked a treat, firstly in securing the fight and then ensuring that the tickets sold like hot cakes.
On the flip side, however, he also seems to have succeeded in seriously pissing Wlad off and firing his motivation to knock him out. Something else I didn't realise until the promo shoots were published is how much smaller Haye is to Wlad.
I can't help but think he has bitten off more than he can chew as he has very little to no experience of taking on guys the size of the Klitchkos. On top of all of that he's gonna have ruined his credibility if he gets sparked out after all the mouthing off he has done.
What do you guys reckon? Has he played a blinder or is he gonna look like a prize prick and get knocked out cold? The mind boggles.
theuppercut
04-24-2009, 09:24 AM
Haye is not a bad guy, trust me. He's just putting backsides on seats. As has been discussed no-one in Germany knew who he was but now 10million do after watching the press conference. Now he's known. He's got the world's attention and more importantly Wlad's - hence you get a sell-out and a fight that the fans can't wait for to see if Haye can back it up and 'shock the world' or get put on his ass.
dwilson
04-24-2009, 09:25 AM
Good boxer but a total prick.
He has alot of bottle and I support him for that but jeez I will piss myself if Wlad KO's him in apocalyptic fashion, if Haye wins I will pretend I liked him all along.
Not a great promoter. Crap under cards and too easy on his prospects.
GazOC
04-24-2009, 09:26 AM
He's got a title fight in his second proper fight at the weight. I'd say he's played a blinder, if he's had to be a bit gobby to get himself there then thats just part of the game.
theuppercut
04-24-2009, 09:26 AM
I don't think he has a big say in the promotional side of things - it's just an association with his name that's all. Adam Booth sorts that side out.
theuppercut
04-24-2009, 09:27 AM
Lets be frank here if Ali was fighting today would we love him? The way he hounded Liston and totally disrespected Frasier is a lot worse than what Haye is doing with a two-bit t-shirt.
JIM KELLY
04-24-2009, 09:29 AM
He is going all out to promote this! Big up to him!
Ilesey
04-24-2009, 09:29 AM
Legend.
debaser
04-24-2009, 09:30 AM
Lets be frank here if Ali was fighting today would we love him? The way he hounded Liston and totally disrespected Frasier is a lot worse than what Haye is doing with a two-bit t-shirt.
True but we only loved him afterwards when he proved he could walk the walk. Would have been a whole different story if he had been sparked out.
kosaros
04-24-2009, 09:31 AM
He is a great promoter.
Watch his television appearances on the likes of soccer am and you will realise he is a good guy.
Smith
04-24-2009, 09:32 AM
He's a very very clever man.
Why the hell would Haye be worried about putting bums on seats? He gets nothing off the stadium revenue. It is simply his style to be dismissive of his opponent.
Mouthy, good start to his promotional work individually and as the collective Hayemaker.
theuppercut
04-24-2009, 09:44 AM
Why the hell would Haye be worried about putting bums on seats? He gets nothing off the stadium revenue. It is simply his style to be dismissive of his opponent.
Mouthy, good start to his promotional work individually and as the collective Hayemaker.
Ssshhh. If he hadn't done that do you think the world's media would've latched on to this fight the way they have? Would the fight have been a sell-out in such time, no. Haye had to do something with this promotion to get the world talking about it. Job done.
Hagler/Pryor
04-24-2009, 09:50 AM
He did very well goading Wlad into the fight in the first place. Lest we forget, though, it was Wlad who was the one that chose Haye in the end, realising the financial potential of their encounter. Since then, Haye's done a great job selling the event, but the T-shirt antics were a low move and led more to some of his core support feeling alienated than to casual fans being attracted to the event. In other words, he went too far for little promotional gain, in my view.
To get a 60,000 sell out is some effort, regardless of Wlads popularity in Germany, gotta be good promoter for me!
robpalmer135
04-24-2009, 10:05 AM
go to youtube, type in david haye and then go to relevance and select date added, you will get the new york press confrence.
haye is wearing a t shirt that says "I Love Klit" lol
JIM KELLY
04-24-2009, 10:05 AM
To get a 60,000 sell out is some effort, regardless of Wlads popularity in Germany, gotta be good promoter for me!
Haye started the promotion early ..the confrontation (similar to some james bond flick) happened b4 thte barrett fight right?
JIM KELLY
04-24-2009, 10:08 AM
go to youtube, type in david haye and then go to relevance and select date added, you will get the new york press confrence.
haye is wearing a t shirt that says "I Love Klit" lol
lmao ...i wonder if wald caught on to the joke??
bratwurzt
04-24-2009, 10:08 AM
if Haye wins I will pretend I liked him all along.
:lol: I like your honesty.
Grant1
04-24-2009, 10:39 AM
I thought his antics were a bit tacky originally but seeing how much of a stir it's caused and how much it's built the fight up I take my hat off to him.
The boy done good :good
Buggo
04-24-2009, 12:48 PM
Ask yourselves one question.
When was the last time you looked forward to a heavyweight title fight as much as this one?
kosaros
04-24-2009, 12:53 PM
go to youtube, type in david haye and then go to relevance and select date added, you will get the new york press confrence.
haye is wearing a t shirt that says "I Love Klit" lol
Haha nice find.
The way he is so subtle with the saying of "i love klit" to Wlad is awesome. :lol:
kosaros
04-24-2009, 12:58 PM
Manny Steward is loving it as well.
Mouthy yes but with a plan, it's been a great move to completely piss off the Klitchsko's.
He's got the fight he wanted against the brother he wanted.
Wlad hates his guts so much the red mist has already descended!!
He's going to get in that ring with hate inside and the gameplans going to erode away as the bombs are thrown.
It could completely backfire but Haye needs any angles he can get against the far bigger man.
David Haye :rasta
kieron
04-24-2009, 02:02 PM
Why the hell would Haye be worried about putting bums on seats? He gets nothing off the stadium revenue. It is simply his style to be dismissive of his opponent.
Couldn't disagree more. He needs to raise his profile on the world stage for the future (assuming he wins) so he does have a vested interest in making this a huge event. Also if you watch the press conference for the Monty Barrett fight Haye is really quite respectful. It's part of the game that he's rattled Klitschko and long long overdue in my opinion
Why the hell would Haye be worried about putting bums on seats? He gets nothing off the stadium revenue. It is simply his style to be dismissive of his opponent.
Mouthy, good start to his promotional work individually and as the collective Hayemaker.
How do you know the contract doesnt work on, say for example a 75-25 split? If the money gained from stadium revenue is pooled together with the television rights, im sure it would be in Hayes interest to put bums on seat.
janitor
04-24-2009, 04:07 PM
Verry astute man.
Smart ring general, smart publicist, career tactician.
Consider the cards he held when he moved up to heavyweight and what is happening now.
I dont think that the face that we see at the press conferences is the real David Haye. Privatley I think he is likeable. I got the idea from the body language in some photoshoots that the Klitschko brothers quite liked him.
Of course now he has to deliver..................
avidlemon
04-24-2009, 04:18 PM
quite simply great at self promotion, not so sure about promotor yet, lets see him once his career in the ring is finished before we decide how good a promotor he can be.
By the way, will be too fast for "klit" and will win by wide points, poss late stoppage
rhinocoote
04-24-2009, 04:42 PM
he is both a mouthy prick and a great promoter,surely you have to be one to be the other in this sport?
frank ******,don king
Sakura
04-24-2009, 05:09 PM
Maybe both! Talented guy with bad mouth...sadly, get fucking with wrong dude..he will get ko'ed badly
Maybe both! Talented guy with bad mouth...sadly, get fucking with wrong dude..he will get ko'ed badly
He could well get Kayoed badly but he has good power and speed matched with a warriors heart.
The only advantages Wlad has is size which admittedly is a BIG advantage....
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