Tommy Hearns v Julio Cesar Vazquez 154

[Seamus]

The iron jawed Vazquez that KD'd Winky Wright 5x vs. 1984 Hearns.

[El Puma]

JCV is getting lit up like a Christmas tree at arguably, Mr. Hearn's best weight.

[McGrain]

I agree.

[smitty_son408]

Poor Vazquez:!:...Hearns in 7

[Sister Sledge]

It's hard to think of a fighter who could beat Hearns at 154. Certainly not Vasquez. Vasquez would get destroyed.

[Sister Sledge]

It's hard to think of a fighter who beats Hearns at 154. Vasquez definately isn't one of them. Julio gets destroyed in this one.

[Hatesrats]

Tommy Hearns by K.O. is the only outcome.

[Seamus]

I certainly would not bet the mortgage on Vazquez, but moreso than Norris or Wright or just about any other LMW, Vaquez has the kryptonite to beat Hearns... Iron fists, iron chin, great will. He found the chin of Wright, arguably a better boxer than Hearns, many times over. He also gave Whitaker a tough tussle, a far better boxer than Hearns. And if it comes punch to punch, I see the possibility of Hearns whiskers fading before Vazquez's. I color this match-up intriguing.

[sweet_scientist]

Vasquez doesn't quite have the punch to get Tommy out of there. At least 9 times out of 10 he is going to have the shit beat out of him before he can effectively mount an offense to break down Hearns. He isn't going to do it with one punch.

[Bill Butcher]

The iron jawed Vazquez that KD'd Winky Wright 5x vs. 1984 Hearns.

No contest, Hearns by KO.

[red cobra]

Vasques would have a chance to last the limit IMO, in the same way that Doug DeWitt was able to at 160. The guy DID have a chin, though it would be sorely tested by Hearns.

[red cobra]

Argentine fighters may not all be a stellar great like my man Monzon, but they were known for their great chins, and didn't go down that easily.

[Seamus]

Vasques would have a chance to last the limit IMO, in the same way that Doug DeWitt was able to at 160. The guy DID have a chin, though it would be sorely tested by Hearns.

JCV also punched like a horse kicks so vice versa on the chin testing. Hearns would have to box first and punch second, wear down Vazquez and let the opportunity to finish come to him. If he presses from the start he could quickly be in deep waters.

[Flea Man]

Hearns would stop Vasquez after about three or four rounds of him opening up furiously.

Vasquez was very, very good, but not good enough to hand with JMW Hearns, where I think Hearns was at his best (and would've been better if not for constant hand injuries)

[sweet_scientist]

JCV also punched like a horse kicks so vice versa on the chin testing. Hearns would have to box first and punch second, wear down Vazquez and let the opportunity to finish come to him. If he presses from the start he could quickly be in deep waters.

Of Vasquez's 11 title defences, 8 went the distance with him. He was hardly a devastating hitter.

[Seamus]

Of Vasquez's 11 title defences, 8 went the distance with him. He was hardly a devastating hitter.

That's not the story from his opponents or the guy I used to know who sparred with him in 93. No, he was not a skilled finisher but dictated the action with his power and strength (he was abnormally strong for 154) and still held a decent KO percentage for his career. More to the point I think he has sufficient power versus Hearns to make this interesting.

And like I stated earlier, I would not place money on the upset, just that I think it is an intriguing match-up.

There isn't a bunch of footage readily available of the guy but I was lucky enough to be at this fight...

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[Flea Man]

Winky was inexperienced then. Vasquez was a decent hitter, but didn't have the kind of power to make Hearns entirely wary of him.

[Russell]

Vasquez doesn't quite have the punch to get Tommy out of there. At least 9 times out of 10 he is going to have the shit beat out of him before he can effectively mount an offense to break down Hearns. He isn't going to do it with one punch.

Of Vasquez's 11 title defences, 8 went the distance with him. He was hardly a devastating hitter.

Well there's a difference between power and being able to apply that power at the world stage, yes?

What do you think of the Wright fight? A fluke?

[Seamus]

Winky was inexperienced then. Vasquez was a decent hitter, but didn't have the kind of power to make Hearns entirely wary of him.

23 years old and 25 fights is not entirely green but, yes, inexperienced on the world stage.

And the way I see JCV winning this is by taking out Hearns' legs as he did with Wright, as Hagler did with Hearns, also.

[MAG1965]

I think Tommy would win by mid rounds knockout. Not a hard fight for a 154 pound Hearns.

[sweet_scientist]

Well there's a difference between power and being able to apply that power at the world stage, yes?

What do you think of the Wright fight? A fluke?

I think Wright hasn't got anywhere NEAR the offensive abilities of Hearns, and that if Hearns was allowed to hit him as many times as Winky did, Vasquez would be knocked out three times over.

Besides that, I think Winky was basically a turtle without his shell in that fight. Very vulnerable. With his developed defense, he beats Vasquez, though not without a struggle.

[JohnThomas1]

He found the chin of Wright, arguably a better boxer than Hearns, many times over. He also gave Whitaker a tough tussle, a far better boxer than Hearns.

How could Wright be a better boxer than Hearns, "many times over"? Hearns outboxed such great boxers as Leonard and Benitez.

Also, Whitaker would have no chance of outboxing or outpointing Hearns at 154 and 147.

Whitaker was MILES above his best weight at 154 and in no way comparable to Hearns there.

Hearns could often outbox boxers and outpunch punchers. His was a lethal mix.