Who's the best striker in MMA history?

[scurlaruntings]

"Inside MMA" co-host and UFC and longtime Pancrase veteran Rutten earned 16 percent of the vote, while Filipovic earned 13 percent.

The full results of the poll included:


34% - Anderson Silva
22% - Chuck Liddell
16% - Bas Rutten
13% - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic
7% - Wanderlei Silva
5% - Other
3% - Igor Vovchanchyn


This is from MMA junkie. Just lets you know the kind of idiots in MMA. Igor gets a measley 3% and Bas 16%? How many MMA fights did Bas even have :roll: And CC at 13% with Liddell at 22%? Peoples memories are so freaking short. And i wouldnt even have Silva at number 1. As far as im concerned that honour goes to CC and dare i say it Melvin Mahoef. Has there truly been a more devastating striker in MMA history then Mahoef?

[Grievesy]

If Bas had competed more in real MMA rather than Pancrase then I think he would have made a good case for himself. Giving Chuck that number of votes is pathetic. Vovchanchyn should be higher, but I doubt too many people have seen him as he competed in the very early days of PRIDE.

Out of them I'd go with Cro Cop. With Anderson possibly in second. Manhoef would be a fair shout aswell.

[MaliSlamusrex]

Semmy Schilt.


it's not even a contest.

[québecwarrior]

Cro Crop and Manhoef are right there with their crazy power, but Anderson Silva is up there too his ridiculous accuracy.

[sugarngold]

Bas had what - two MMA fights? His technique was good but his MMA resume was stopped short. I remember holding out for the day Rutten would challenge Wanderlai but it never came.

Silva, Wanderlai, Crocop, Liddell, and Vochanchyan are all top choices. I remember in 2006 it would have been an easy choice with Crocop at the top of the list as easily the "most feared" striker in the world.

[scurlaruntings]

Bas had what - two MMA fights? His technique was good but his MMA resume was stopped short. I remember holding out for the day Rutten would challenge Wanderlai but it never came.

Silva, Wanderlai, Crocop, Liddell, and Vochanchyan are all top choices. I remember in 2006 it would have been an easy choice with Crocop at the top of the list as easily the "most feared" striker in the world.CC still wins this. It doesnt matter how short guys memories are NO ONE in MMA had more highlight reel KO's than a prime and on form CC.

My list would be:

Cro Cop
Wandy - Manhoef
Igor
Silva
Liddell
Bas

[québecwarrior]

good list, mine would be (from the name available on the first post)
CC
A.S
Manhoef
Igor
Liddell, Wanderlei on the same level
Bas

[Bill Butcher]

"Inside MMA" co-host and UFC and longtime Pancrase veteran Rutten earned 16 percent of the vote, while Filipovic earned 13 percent.

The full results of the poll included:


34% - Anderson Silva
22% - Chuck Liddell
16% - Bas Rutten
13% - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic
7% - Wanderlei Silva
5% - Other
3% - Igor Vovchanchyn
This is from MMA junkie. Just lets you know the kind of idiots in MMA. Igor gets a measley 3% and Bas 16%? How many MMA fights did Bas even have :roll: And CC at 13% with Liddell at 22%? Peoples memories are so freaking short. And i wouldnt even have Silva at number 1. As far as im concerned that honour goes to CC and dare i say it Melvin Mahoef. Has there truly been a more devastating striker in MMA history then Mahoef?

Anderson is the best technical striker today but Shogun Rua should be on the list, wtf ?

:huh

[Bill Butcher]

All in all, its really hard to say `greatest striker in history`

Power in hands might go to Liddell
Power in kicks might go to Cro-cop
Speed in hands might go to Belfort
Speed in kicks might go to mmmm.... tough one, get back to you there
All round technique & accuracy might go to Anderson Silva
Relentless finishing might go to Wanderlei or Shogun

You see, its very hard, there is just too many dimensions to striking, each has their own preferences.

Id love to see a fighter that had the blend of all those attributes, scary shit.

[MaliSlamusrex]

your all wrong it's Semmy Schilt.

[robert ungurean]

Bas
Anderson
Igor
CC
Bob Schreiber
Aleks
Chuck
Wand
Manhoef

[sugarngold]

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[Grievesy]

Bas
Anderson
Igor
CC
Bob Schreiber
Aleks
Chuck
Wand
Manhoef

WTF? Aleks Emelianenko and 'Dirty' Bob Schreiber? I take it your joking?

[liger05]

Mirko in his day was lethal.

I remember seeing Bas Rutten high Kick Naruse in New Japan pro-wrestling. Was brutal.

[MaliSlamusrex]

If anyone could out strike Semmy Schilt i would take off my shoe and eat it.

1. Semmy Schilt
2. Giblert Yvel
3. Mirco Cro Cop


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[boxingcar]

in mma , prime crocop.

in both K1 & mma , semmy schilt.

best striker in ufc history is probably anderson silva though. & certainly not liddell. (way too one dimensional with his striking even though he had the ko power & the right timing)

[Nuke]

in mma , prime crocop.

in both K1 & mma , semmy schilt.

best striker in ufc history is probably anderson silva though. & certainly not liddell. (way too one dimensional with his striking even though he had the ko power & the right timing)


Can't argue with that!:good

[ufoalf]

in mma , prime crocop.

in both K1 & mma , semmy schilt.

best striker in ufc history is probably anderson silva though. & certainly not liddell. (way too one dimensional with his striking even though he had the ko power & the right timing)


Effectiveness > technique, completeness and other opinion based bullshit.
LIddell was as effective in his prime as Anderson right now.

[boxingcar]

Effectiveness > technique, completeness and other opinion based bullshit.
LIddell was as effective in his prime as Anderson right now.

it almost sounds as if you took it personally. Are a huge liddell fan or what ?

Anyway , i totally agree with effectiveness > anything (as long as it's working...sure).

But there's a good reason why i'm not putting liddell in the best striker in mma history category nor even in ufc's history.

Liddell's career = the art of matchmaking. (thanks to his best friend , dana white...)

and i'm not insinuating that chuck fought cans all his life. it's not even about that. He finished some big names , (the likes of Ortiz , Couture , Sobral , Horn , Overeem)...

The problem is that he was mostly confronted against fighters who weren't strikers & better yet...fighters who were even scared of his loopy haymakers.

& it's no wonder jackson beat him twice. The first one certainly wasn't a fluke. (the one in pride fc).

You're right though , as long as it's effective...why not.

but hey , anderson's striking is effective too isn't it ? and if we're comparing the approach of both fighters , one is more complete than the other. (and i'm just talking in the striking department not the rest )...

that's why i'm personally ranking anderson as ufc's best striker (so far)...

but in the entire sport... the most impressive ones i've seen are def (prime) crocop , schilt & i almost forgot...manhoef.

obviously mma is more than just striking , that's why the likes of sakurai , gsp , fedor , hansen , Penn (to name a few)...will generally always have an advantage even when they're confronted to superior strikers...

[scurlaruntings]

Effectiveness > technique, completeness and other opinion based bullshit.
LIddell was as effective in his prime as Anderson right now.Look at the amount of wrestlers the guy fought. Liddell could crack but it wasnt by coincidence. And theres no way Liddell was ever as cerebral as Anderson. Anderson has a huge repertoire of strikes. Liddell was effective with the one dimension he had.

[rusty nails]

he might not be the best ever but vitor belfort deserves a mention.

[Polymath]

Effectiveness > technique, completeness and other opinion based bullshit.
LIddell was as effective in his prime as Anderson right now.

:good

Liddell
Cro Cop
A Silva


I cant pick one.

[MaliSlamusrex]

Liddell is a durable guy with good take down defense, his Ko's are spectacular, but his stand up is average at best. Even at his peak Liddell at 205 would loose pure stand up to Belfort.
The only guys with skills in the UFC at the moment are Machida, Shogun and Silva*2, everyone else is good for MMA standards.

[sugarngold]

Liddell knocked Belfort down on a way to UD.

[socrates]

bas rutten

[MaliSlamusrex]

Rampage Ko'd W.Silva and Liddell, but that doesn't make him a better striker than either.

Liddell knocked Belfort down on a way to UD.

[Orishaman]

striker, is strictly puncher....so that said:

Cro Cop-78%, but some of those are by kicks and not strikes....

Chuck 62% KO's....

Spider Silva 58%....

I ahve to go with Chuck

[sugarngold]

Rampage Ko'd W.Silva and Liddell, but that doesn't make him a better striker than either.

True - but I was replying to your comment that "Even at his peak Liddell at 205 would loose pure stand up to Belfort." The fact is that they did fight during their primes and Belfort lost. It bummed me out when it happened because I was always a Belfort fan.

[196osh]

If anyone could out strike Semmy Schilt i would take off my shoe and eat it.


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Iggy has been in a few MMA fights, and err Iggy KO 1 Semmy. :yep

Now where is the shoe?

[rydersonthestorm]

striker, is strictly puncher....so that said:

Cro Cop-78%, but some of those are by kicks and not strikes....

Chuck 62% KO's....

Spider Silva 58%....

I ahve to go with Chuck
no a striker is someone that strikes his opponent instead of wrestling or submission.

[Vitor Belfort]

Silva is one of them for sure. Mirko Crocop is a dangerous striker. He has power to knock you out with his punch and knock you out with his kicks.

[cdnboxing]

LOL, Bas Rutten and Chuck Liddell.

Crocop, decent hands, incredible kicks. Silva has to be my #1 in all of MMA.

[Brian123]

Silva not #1 but hey he is popular now, and as so often happens popular ="great" and we end up with overrated.
#3 in my book sounds about right though.