Boxing fans who think all MMA fighters cant throw hands... what about this guy ?

[Bill Butcher]

These are the hands of the phenom, Vitor Belfort.

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Im not saying he`s Ali but please dont try tell me this guy doesnt have terriffic hands.

Thoughts :think

[catasyou]

Fuck MMA.

[rapidHOOK]

belfort has good hands but not on par with a deacent pro boxer

he looks even better than he is because all other mma fighter lack boxing ability

he throw nice staright punches, while always keeping a good stance and strong form (posture)

[Hatesrats]

How many times has Belfort been K.O.'d?
And you have your answer.

[Axe]

There are WAY better strikers in MMA than Vitor Belfort.

[catasyou]

Fuck MMA.

[Imperial1]

BELFORT Was schooled in a boxing match a few yrs back .

[bladerunner]

There are WAY better strikers in MMA than Vitor Belfort.
True, guys like Ricky Hatton and John Ruiz are much better :deal

[john b]

They looked quite telegraphed to me. Anyhow I watch Ultimate fighter on Setanta and bisping really wound up that yank, and i though that UK lad was going to stick the nut on that rob browning.

[john b]

True, guys like Ricky Hatton and John Ruiz are much better :deal

Ricky can actually box.

[Bill Butcher]

There are WAY better strikers in MMA than Vitor Belfort.

Guys like Liddell have better 1 punch power but nobody in MMA has faster hands than Belfort, they are lightning + he has good technique & definitely doesnt punch soft but his main asset is god given speed.
Dont forget, the guy trains in other disciplines too so 100% of his time isnt spent on his hands.

[TommyV]

Fuck MMA. He'd get knocked out by any decent boxer.

[Bill Butcher]

How many times has Belfort been K.O.'d?
And you have your answer.

Hardly any times but anyone can get caught + Im sure boxers even of the calibre of DLH, Mosely or Hopkins could get KOd with someone sitting on top of them & unloading combo`s with barely padded fingerless gloves... having TKO/KO losses on your record doesnt mean you dont have great hands.

[catasyou]

Fuck MMA.

[stilltharow]

belfort!! hats off to him he has speed and very good technique! wts with the anti MMA fans here lol

[Bill Butcher]

Fuck MMA.

I like both boxing & MMA, the elite in each sport are of the very highest order & deserve massive respect.... the 2 toughest sports on earth.

Boxers with no grappling experience have tried MMA/NHB before & have all got fucked up.... its usually the ignorant ones that say `fuck MMA` that lose quickest.

[nervousxtian]

This is a boxing forum.

it's in the name of the site.

What kind of response to you seriously think you are going to get?

They are completely different sports, everyone wants to compare them, because both are fighting, but the entire approach to training and fighting is completely different.

[sitiyzal]

Guys like Liddell have better 1 punch power but nobody in MMA has faster hands than Belfort, they are lightning + he has good technique & definitely doesnt punch soft but his main asset is god given speed.
Dont forget, the guy trains in other disciplines too so 100% of his time isnt spent on his hands.

Yes. The fight with Lindland was a typical example of an mma fighter with good punching ability & knowledge vs one with the classic childlike approach to standup.

[catasyou]

I like both boxing & MMA, the elite in each sport are of the very highest order & deserve massive respect.... the 2 toughest sports on earth.

Boxers with no grappling experience have tried MMA/NHB before & have all got fucked up.... its usually the ignorant ones that say `fuck MMA` that lose quickest.
True,I agree with you.
P.S.:Fuck MMA.

[Thunderlips]

Personally I think Rashad Evans has better hands.

[ron u.k.]

These are the hands of the phenom, Vitor Belfort.

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Im not saying he`s Ali but please dont try tell me this guy doesnt have terriffic hands.

Thoughts :thinkFeatherfisted arm puncher.

[Rico Spadafora]

I believe he tried Boxing and failed.

[Dynamite Kid]

Featherfisted arm puncher.

Belfort featherfisted arm puncher?:blood Did you see his KO's over Marvin Eastman and Wanderlei Silva? That's featherfisted to you? You need glasses:patsch

[truewarrior]

Yup cant argue with your thread he has fast hands but whats the point any decent boxer would school this guy to death. He doesnt have the mechanics of a boxer and look at his defense lol it is nonexistent. He fights with his chin out those MMA guys dont have the skillset to time him.

[sugarngold]

Good Belfort clip. But remember - cast not pearls before swine my friend.

[Bill Butcher]

I believe he tried Boxing and failed.

Could be true but your heart has to be 100% in it.

Brazil wanted him to box in the olympics & he opted for MMA instead when he was younger, Im guessing if he had choosen boxing then his hands would be even better as ALL of his training would be on boxing rather than just like 30% or whatever.

Al Stankie (boxing trainer) says that Belforts hands were up there with any boxer he has ever worked with - not sure if even I fully believe that but the point of the thread was to show a good well rounded MMA fighter that can throw very good punches too because thats often the criticism of MMA guys by boxing fans that dont like MMA.

:good

[boricua100%]

Fuck MMA.
:good

[nervousxtian]

All trainers always use hyperbole talking about their guys. It's called promoting a fight/fighter.

[pudding]

These are the hands of the phenom, Vitor Belfort.

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Im not saying he`s Ali but please dont try tell me this guy doesnt have terriffic hands.

Thoughts :think



He can certainly throw a mean punch to the back of the head! :yep

[sugarngold]

For all you tossers that feel so threatened by a nascent sport that you can't enjoy or respect the abilities of these athletes enough to muster more of a lucid response than "fuck MMA" - this is what MMA striking is like. The bulk of your favorite boxers would never make it past this guy's left leg. This is what REAL MMA striking is like. It's called Knock You the Fuck Out by kicking you in the head.

B7pj8aPH5VY

[Jude]

I started watching mma with the hype but quickly got bored of it. I respect the dedication thta it takes to compete at the highest level but find it boring to watch. The fact that the contender winners can go on to rule certain divisions in the sport shows that its in early development stage.

To me nothing can compete with the mosleys, calzaghes and the mayweathers of the boxing world. The confines of the sweet science make boxing more of a science and a tactical sport, which gives it longevity, and brilliant tactical matches that i would watch from now to eternity and still be awed.

[Bill Butcher]

For all you tossers that feel so threatened by a nascent sport that you can't enjoy or respect the abilities of these athletes enough to muster more of a lucid response than "fuck MMA" - this is what MMA striking is like. The bulk of your favorite boxers would never make it past this guy's left leg. This is what REAL MMA striking is like. It's called Knock You the Fuck Out by kicking you in the head.

B7pj8aPH5VY

Good vid, I bet half the posters didnt watch it tho.

Cro-cop was awesome at his peak, he only ever lost to the 2 best HWTs MMA had ever seen when he was in his good yrs, Fedor & Nogueira & he gave both a good fight.

That left head kick was absolutely murderous... ouch ! :!:

How can anyone not respect that shit, baffling.

[Grievesy]

Good vid, I bet half the posters didnt watch it tho.

Cro-cop was awesome at his peak, he only ever lost to the 2 best HWTs MMA had ever seen when he was in his good yrs, Fedor & Nogueira & he gave both a good fight.

That left head kick was absolutely murderous... ouch ! :!:

How can anyone not respect that shit, baffling.

Hactually, Randleman KOed him aswell. But I feel it was a fluke.:good

[sitiyzal]

For all you tossers that feel so threatened by a nascent sport that you can't enjoy or respect the abilities of these athletes enough to muster more of a lucid response than "fuck MMA" - this is what MMA striking is like. The bulk of your favorite boxers would never make it past this guy's left leg. This is what REAL MMA striking is like. It's called Knock You the Fuck Out by kicking you in the head.

B7pj8aPH5VY

Don't you mean K-1 striking :tong.

[PH|LLA]

fucking full power punches to the back of the head that shit is brutal

[hmm]

hmm says...
vitor belfort = one of the strongest and fastest hands... I also wondered myself if he should join boxing. He was one of my favorite ufc fighters back in the day.

[MaliSlamusrex]

Belfort has good hands for MMA, but for a boxer he is average, if he lost 20 pounds he could be amazing.

[QuestionKid7]

AA looked great after training with roach

[ron u.k.]

Belfort featherfisted arm puncher?:blood Did you see his KO's over Marvin Eastman and Wanderlei Silva? That's featherfisted to you? You need glasses:patsch Just look at his technique,it's arm punching.He's hitting those guys a 100 tmes and they're still standing. Any guys he knocks cold you have to question their chin,like most guys in the MMA. Now then where did i put me specs?

[platnumpapi]

These are the hands of the phenom, Vitor Belfort.

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Im not saying he`s Ali but please dont try tell me this guy doesnt have terriffic hands.

Thoughts :think

vito is pro boxer, but he cant box.he can throw straight left right.but he cant box.

chuck cant box
bj penn cant box
vitor cant box

anderson silva is the guy he has the best hands in the mma game to me.guys like robby lawler and scott smith jake shields, have good power but there are all brawlers with decent boxing skills.

none of them would become champs, it is what it is.kimbo slice is wack and he want be able to go more then 4 rds maybe 5.

boxer just box,mma does boxing and other shit so they cant foucs on just boxing like a boxer can.so they cant fuck with boxers in the ring at the same time a boxer should not get in a cage or an octagon with an mma fight either.

[GSBVPugilicé]

Come on guys, some of those MMA fighters are absolutely good; Fedor and Crocop stand out, but personally I'm not that much into ground fights, too slow for me. However, I feel the most effective, most brutal fighters are or have been in K1; Ernesto "Mr. Perfect" Hoost, Peter Aerts, Remy Bonjaski, Semmy Schildt will crush most MMA fighters easily. Ofcourse K1 carries a lot of idiots as well, (Bob Sapp, Akebono) but no Kimbo slices etcetera.

The Dutch fighters are 1.90+ cm, 110+ kg with speed, power and tactics. But the most lethal weapon by far in their arsenals are the lowkicks, take down the legs and all punching power fades away.

Just don't compare Boxing to MMA/UFC/K1. I personally think that boxing is a artsy sport wherease MMA/UFC/K1 are martial arts. Different rules, different defensive and offensive challenges, different tactics. Just enjoy both!

[Dynamite Kid]

Just look at his technique,it's arm punching.He's hitting those guys a 100 tmes and they're still standing. Any guys he knocks cold you have to question their chin,like most guys in the MMA. Now then where did i put me specs?

"He's hitting those guys a 100 tmes and they're still standing" I disagree. He put Wanderlei away quickly. He put Linland away quickly. Belfort would never reach hitting someone 100 times cause they'd be on the floor already. An arm puncher is Nick Diaz, not Vitor Belfort.

[rayrayv123]

The only problem with this thread is you're statement is "boxing fans who think ALL MMA fighters can't throw hands".....and you have video of one example. I'm sure there are planty of MMA fighters who are good strikers, but you're wording indicates that boxing fans think all MMA fighters can't throw hands and you're only bringing one guy to the table (and obviously there are more who can, but the title doesn't suggest that).

[LightningJoe]

Belfort looks to have the wrong build for boxing. If he were to box and train as a boxer I'm guessing he would have to be leaner and maybe fight at 160. There was really nothing in the video to show he has "great hands" in boxing terms.

Could be true but your heart has to be 100% in it.

Brazil wanted him to box in the olympics & he opted for MMA instead when he was younger, Im guessing if he had choosen boxing then his hands would be even better as ALL of his training would be on boxing rather than just like 30% or whatever.

Al Stankie (boxing trainer) says that Belforts hands were up there with any boxer he has ever worked with - not sure if even I fully believe that but the point of the thread was to show a good well rounded MMA fighter that can throw very good punches too because thats often the criticism of MMA guys by boxing fans that dont like MMA.

:good

So he's apparantly 185lbs. If you are comparing one of the best MMA fighters you have to compare him with the best in boxing around that weight.

Are his hands all that "great" compared to Hopkins or Dawson. What about retired Calzaghe or shot Roy Jones Jr?

[Pimp C]

Those MMA guys are nothing more than arm punching glass jawed punks. Fuck MMA.

[Pimp C]

I started watching mma with the hype but quickly got bored of it. I respect the dedication thta it takes to compete at the highest level but find it boring to watch. The fact that the contender winners can go on to rule certain divisions in the sport shows that its in early development stage.

To me nothing can compete with the mosleys, calzaghes and the mayweathers of the boxing world. The confines of the sweet science make boxing more of a science and a tactical sport, which gives it longevity, and brilliant tactical matches that i would watch from now to eternity and still be awed.
I couldn't agree more. Excellent post.:good

[nfc90210]

BELFORT Was schooled in a boxing match a few yrs back .

When?

Boxrec lists him as having one pro boxing bout back in 2006. He won via first round KO against a fellow debutant.

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[Bill Butcher]

Hactually, Randleman KOed him aswell. But I feel it was a fluke.:good

:good

Forgot about that, I too feel it was a fluke, the rematch proved it I guess, I dont think he would have ever beat Fedor or Nog in their prime in rematches tho but no shame there, Cro-cop did amazing in MMA for a striker even tho he got a blue belt in BJJ & practised wrestling.

[Bill Butcher]

The only problem with this thread is you're statement is "boxing fans who think ALL MMA fighters can't throw hands".....and you have video of one example. I'm sure there are planty of MMA fighters who are good strikers, but you're wording indicates that boxing fans think all MMA fighters can't throw hands and you're only bringing one guy to the table (and obviously there are more who can, but the title doesn't suggest that).

You missed part of my thread title out, it actually says `Boxing fans who think all MMA fighters cant throw hands... what about this guy ?`

Then I showed Belfort... there are other good strikers, both with hands & feet but Ive heard many people say NO MMA guys can throw hands so I showed a quick Belfort vid - there`s actually longer clips but sometimes people wont watch if its too long, thats another reason I didnt waste my time putting up multiple MMA fighters with the thread title `Boxing fans who think all MMA fighters cant throw hands... what about these guys ?`

:good

[$drew$marshall]

this guy is old news.couture knocked him the fuck out

[Tuffnutz]

Melvin Manhoef mother fuckers!

There's a reason why they call him the Tyson of MMA.

The man punches so god damn hard for his weight.

He's knocking out guys in K-1 and MMA who are way bigger than he is.

He's blessed with the same level of power that you see in some of boxing's biggest punchers.

Hopefully one day he'll fight Anderson Silva and i'll be a bag of nerves for that one! :yep

[ghettowizard]

Melvin Manhoef mother fuckers!

There's a reason why they call him the Tyson of MMA.

The man punches so god damn hard for his weight.

He's knocking out guys in K-1 and MMA who are way bigger than he is.

He's blessed with the same level of power that you see in some of boxing's biggest punchers.

Hopefully one day he'll fight Anderson Silva and i'll be a bag of nerves for that one! :yep

Manhoef got KOd and put to sleep last month..

[eze]

Hactually, Randleman KOed him aswell. But I feel it was a fluke.:good

That was no fluke.

Randleman is quite possibly one of the most gifted athletes if not the most gifted athlete to ever fight in MMA.

Except he lacks mentality to go along with it.

Randleman KOing him was no fluke.

[untmike]

Anybody can throw hands against someone who doesnt have any defense. Imagine those hands being thrown against the likes of PBF (p4p, obviously not h2h) and James Toney (the slimmer version). He wouldnt land one shot.

[eze]

Anybody can throw hands against someone who doesnt have any defense. Imagine those hands being thrown against the likes of PBF and James Toney (the slimmer version). He wouldnt land one shot.

:lol: Vitor would kill Mayweather if he was able to throw those shots against someone not throwing back.

Im sorry. I love Mayweather but Vitor is too big and fast and strong to let him just free throw at Mayweather.

[BoxingFanNo1]

I laugh at the 'he'd get schooled any decent boxer' comments.

Nooooo you don't fuckin say.......
He isn't a boxer and to point out that he'd get schooled by a professional boxer is ridiculous.

All the thread points out is that he has good hands, which he does.

[untmike]

:lol: Vitor would kill Mayweather if he was able to throw those shots against someone not throwing back.

Im sorry. I love Mayweather but Vitor is too big and fast and strong to let him just free throw at Mayweather.
Haha yea i know i edited it to p4p because obviously head to head vitor would rape mayweather

[eze]

Haha yea i know i edited it to p4p because obviously head to head vitor would rape mayweather

Yea. Two different styles of striking.

If Vitor trained boxing all his life. He would probably be very good. His striking is amazing at the MMA level where you have to protect against other things but if he only did boxing. .. Oh oby.

[Tuffnutz]

Manhoef got KOd and put to sleep last month..

It still does'nt change the fact that the man punches like a truck and is exciting as hell.

Like a lot of murderous punchers Melvin does'nt have the best of chin's.

[ghettowizard]

Vitor is a bust when its all said and done. If things dont go his way in the first round, forget about it. He will fuckin fold. Its happened more times than I can count. Theres a reason him and Randleman are two of the biggest underachievers in the sports history. At least Randleman tries, he just never evolved, training with Marc Coleman his whole career. Vitor is just a fuckin headcase and everyone knows it. He'll do fine in the smaller shows but if its an important fight, folds like a lawn chair. Not very big in the heart department and his stamina BLOWS..

[ghettowizard]

It still does'nt change the fact that the man punches like a truck and is exciting as hell.

Like a lot of murderous punchers Melvin does'nt have the best of chin's.


Never said that it did..

[Tuffnutz]

Never said that it did..

His last fight was very strange though tbh. :lol:

[Carnage]

MMA reminds me of Karma Sutra.

[Duhswag]

UHM this was mostly ground work so how would we be able to tell his boxing abilities?

It does look like he has a decent right hand though

[purplestuff]

For all you tossers that feel so threatened by a nascent sport that you can't enjoy or respect the abilities of these athletes enough to muster more of a lucid response than "fuck MMA" - this is what MMA striking is like. The bulk of your favorite boxers would never make it past this guy's left leg. This is what REAL MMA striking is like. It's called Knock You the Fuck Out by kicking you in the head.

B7pj8aPH5VY

dude take this bitter shit to the mma forum. can cro cop kick? can he punch? news flash, nobody gives a fuck. your on a boxing forum, quit shovin this shit down peoples throats.

did you really think upon presenting this video you were gunna sway anyones views on mma? "iv hated ufc for years now, but after watching this, i take it all back!!"

for your info, the other side gives boxing 2x as much shit. try surfing sherdog if you dont believe.

[san rafael]

Fuck MMA.

^^^^^

[JoeAverage]

Belfort is nothing speacial at all. At all. Emilianenko has far better hands and would actually be dangeorus to top boxers I believe. Belfort would be of zero danger to a top boxer. Too slow and too wide.

[SouthpawSlayer]

what?????????????

you cannot compare that shit to any average pro boxer, its crap

[Bill Butcher]

Belfort is nothing speacial at all. At all. Emilianenko has far better hands and would actually be dangeorus to top boxers I believe. Belfort would be of zero danger to a top boxer. Too slow and too wide.

Too slow :huh

His punching is crafted for MMA as is his stance so obviously Im not saying Belfort would beat a good boxer of similar weight in a boxing match but he has great hands & would likely PUNCH the shit out of a boxer in a street fight, bare knuckles, anything goes etc.

[Vitor Belfort]

Vitor Belfort has been one of my favorite MMA fighter of all time. I love the way he fights. He is one of the best striker in MMA and one of the fastest hands. His weakness is his stamina. He seems to ran out of gas after 3rd rounds so it cost him to lose couple of fights. I would love to see belfort back in the UFC and fight anderson silva.

[Nuke]

That was no fluke.

Randleman is quite possibly one of the most gifted athletes if not the most gifted athlete to ever fight in MMA.

Except he lacks mentality to go along with it.

Randleman KOing him was no fluke.


yes it was CroCop beat the shoes off him in the rematch, Randlemann didn't stand a chance.

[Nuke]

MMA reminds me of Karma Sutra.


Probably because you are gay and when you see two men on the ground you instantly think of sex, you can't help it.:think

[Nuke]

dude take this bitter shit to the mma forum. can cro cop kick? can he punch? news flash, nobody gives a fuck. your on a boxing forum, quit shovin this shit down peoples throats.

did you really think upon presenting this video you were gunna sway anyones views on mma? "iv hated ufc for years now, but after watching this, i take it all back!!"

for your info, the other side gives boxing 2x as much shit. try surfing sherdog if you dont believe.



First off its MMA, NOT UFC. UFC is one organization that promotes MMA, there are actually more orgs then just the UFC so get that right next time and secondly if you "have hated the UFC" for so long how and why do you even know what sherdog is?

[Nuke]

_0cCHWnWRe0


Because we all know that MMA fighters couldn't compete with boxers in a fight.:bbb

[thebrodstar]

True, guys like Ricky Hatton and John Ruiz are much better :deal

Oh you mean two of the best boxers in the world are much better? That is a horrible comparison. Everytime someone has a good point about an MMA guy being a good striker someone comes along and says something ridiculous like "oh he was get destroyed by Bernard Hopkin".

[thebrodstar]

Fuck MMA. He'd get knocked out by any decent boxer.

In boxing maybe, a boxer wouldn't get out of a first round with any MMA fighter if it were and MMA match.

[thebrodstar]

vito is pro boxer, but he cant box.he can throw straight left right.but he cant box.

chuck cant box
bj penn cant box
vitor cant box

anderson silva is the guy he has the best hands in the mma game to me.guys like robby lawler and scott smith jake shields, have good power but there are all brawlers with decent boxing skills.

none of them would become champs, it is what it is.kimbo slice is wack and he want be able to go more then 4 rds maybe 5.

boxer just box,mma does boxing and other shit so they cant foucs on just boxing like a boxer can.so they cant fuck with boxers in the ring at the same time a boxer should not get in a cage or an octagon with an mma fight either.

Several boxing trainers have contacted Penn trying to get him to switch sports claiming they would make him a champ quickly.

[achillesthegreat]

The whole MMA are shit boxers and vica versa is a load of bollocks.

Wlad, Vitali, Cintron, Haye, Hatton and many others have backgrounds in other disciplines and with concentrated training could make the transition.

Jackson, Belfort, Arlovski and many others are good boxers who with concentrated training could make the transition.

These guys have the physical and mental talent to fight. With the right training they can make the swap. I have no doubt about this.

[AmericanSugar]

Guys like Liddell have better 1 punch power but nobody in MMA has faster hands than Belfort, they are lightning + he has good technique & definitely doesnt punch soft but his main asset is god given speed.
Dont forget, the guy trains in other disciplines too so 100% of his time isnt spent on his hands.

he has terrible technique. his head is straight up, he is square .

[scurlaruntings]

Why does this General Forum crap have to end up in here?

[purplestuff]

First off its MMA, NOT UFC. UFC is one organization that promotes MMA, there are actually more orgs then just the UFC so get that right next time and secondly if you "have hated the UFC" for so long how and why do you even know what sherdog is?

reading comprehension FAIL.:patsch

would you like to try again?

[Nuke]

reading comprehension FAIL.:patsch

would you like to try again?



Why not explain yourself apparently I don't understand your incoherent rants. :tired

[Tko4]

delete

[Tko4]

Since this thread seems to be full of MMA hate, I'd like to send some boxing's way.

I like boxing almost as much as MMA, but I just watched two top prospects put in with sacrificial lambs. At least in MMA we get competitive fights. Should that last HBO fight have been sanctioned? I mean, the loser landed one power punch. One. And the HBO idiots just suck these prospects off. "These guys could beat Pavlik because they just opened up this tomato can and made soup!"

I'm sick of all these squash fights. These guys have to fight 20 times before they get put in with a live body most of the time because one loss gets you put in the "exposed" category according to most boxing fans.

[codeman99998]

I think Walker would win in a real fight!

[cdnboxing]

Alot of people can throw hands.

Not many can box.

[Drunkenboxer]

Andrei Arlovski has pretty good hands... Then again, he is trained by Freddie Roach...

[cdnboxing]

Haha yea i know i edited it to p4p because obviously head to head vitor would rape mayweather

WHAT?

Are you referring to boxing?

Belfort regardless of his weight would get splattered by the smaller, shorter Mayweather, and it would end in embarassing fashion.

Dont be stupid.

Belfort cant box, he can punch. And these types of fighters dont do well in boxing.

[cdnboxing]

Since this thread seems to be full of MMA hate, I'd like to send some boxing's way.

I like boxing almost as much as MMA, but I just watched two top prospects put in with sacrificial lambs. At least in MMA we get competitive fights. Should that last HBO fight have been sanctioned? I mean, the loser landed one power punch. One. And the HBO idiots just suck these prospects off. "These guys could beat Pavlik because they just opened up this tomato can and made soup!"

I'm sick of all these squash fights. These guys have to fight 20 times before they get put in with a live body most of the time because one loss gets you put in the "exposed" category according to most boxing fans.

UFC 95 had 7 fights end in the 1st round. 6 of them were via KO.

You watch the Fight for the Troops card? Cantwell was fed some karate bum with no striking, no grappling skills and was subbed almost immediately when on the ground. They gave Ben Saunders some military guy who cant fight. Than they gave Swick a journeymen in Goulet.

MMA does the exact same thing, but the nature of the sport makes it look alot more competitive than boxing. But in reality its not. Its just the same.

[codeman99998]

UFC 95 had 7 fights end in the 1st round. 6 of them were via KO.

You watch the Fight for the Troops card? Cantwell was fed some karate bum with no striking, no grappling skills and was subbed almost immediately when on the ground. They gave Ben Saunders some military guy who cant fight. Than they gave Swick a journeymen in Goulet.

MMA does the exact same thing, but the nature of the sport makes it look alot more competitive than boxing. But in reality its not. Its just the same.

Bullshit. If that were true there would undoubtedly be more 20-0 and 30-0 fighters in MMA.

[mikey5time]

I started watching mma with the hype but quickly got bored of it. I respect the dedication thta it takes to compete at the highest level but find it boring to watch. The fact that the contender winners can go on to rule certain divisions in the sport shows that its in early development stage.

In the early seasons of TUF, they actually took the best fighters they could find. The talented free agents all have jobs now, so we're getting what's left over.

[ufoalf]

In the early seasons of TUF, they actually took the best fighters they could find. The talented free agents all have jobs now, so we're getting what's left over.

Well, in all honesty those talented free agents would be better off going to TUF because they'd get paid a lot more. 5gs for a win? Then you get a fat check if you win the show plus a contract? Can't beat it.

[ufoalf]

UFC 95 had 7 fights end in the 1st round. 6 of them were via KO.

You watch the Fight for the Troops card? Cantwell was fed some karate bum with no striking, no grappling skills and was subbed almost immediately when on the ground. They gave Ben Saunders some military guy who cant fight. Than they gave Swick a journeymen in Goulet.

MMA does the exact same thing, but the nature of the sport makes it look alot more competitive than boxing. But in reality its not. Its just the same.

I'm glad you like it.

[codeman99998]

Since this thread has a lot of comparison's between boxing and MMA, I have a question.

What is up with everyone calling on Hatton to retire? He has only ever lost 2 fights and both were to the pound for pound best in the sport. Can you imagine, say, a LHW MMA fighter losing to Fedor and then losing to Anderson Silva and then everyone calls for him to retire?

[Nuke]

Since this thread has a lot of comparison's between boxing and MMA, I have a question.

What is up with everyone calling on Hatton to retire? He has only ever lost 2 fights and both were to the pound for pound best in the sport. Can you imagine, say, a LHW MMA fighter losing to Fedor and then losing to Anderson Silva and then everyone calls for him to retire?



:rofl I know strictly boxing only fans live in fantasy land.:rofl

[cdnboxing]

Bullshit. If that were true there would undoubtedly be more 20-0 and 30-0 fighters in MMA.

Please. UFCs goal is to feed their young prospects a few gimme fights.

the best MMA'er in Fedor got fed Hong Man Choi, Zulu, an undersized Matt Lindland. Its all the same.

In boxing, you give a young prospect a fighter hes not ready for it could ruin his career, both mentally and physically. Its happened numerous times, there is a reason behind what they do. They gave Pavlik southpaws, punchers, boxers, brawlers, in-fighters, speedsters and thats why when he stepped up to fight Zertuche he was prepared, when he stepped up to fight Miranda he was prepared, when he stepped up and fight Taylor he was prepared.

I agree some boxers are moved along slowly, but dont act like the same thing doesnt happen in MMA. There are fighters in the UFC who are under contract just to make their young fighters look good.

[cdnboxing]

I'm glad you like it.

You clearly misunderstood what I was saying. In boxing, if you arent good its very hard to make it look like a competitive fight. You are pretty much exposed once the bell rings.

MMA is different.

[cdnboxing]

:rofl I know strictly boxing only fans live in fantasy land.:rofl

I think Hatton is still the man at 140. Or at least one of the best at that weight.

However, you cant ignore what happened last night. The way Hatton fights just does not result in a long career. Hes been in some very tough, grueling fights. And Hattons time fighting mega fights are pretty much done. He just cannot compete with the elite. Hatton is a good fighter, an elite 140 but fighting the likes of Mayweather, Pacquiao or a Mosley, Cotto even JMM would not end well for Hatton.

And being KO'd by Mayweather than being knocked down 3 times and ultimately KO'd against Pacquiao is not good for ones health. Hattons punch resistance just isnt the same as it once was.

People who call for Hatton to retire arent in the wrong at all. They just want a fighter to call it quits so he can have his health for the rest of his life.