Is Rob McCracken a World Class Trainer now?

[ninebar]

Just watched the Showtime version of Taylor/Froch, Did anybody notice the great job Rob McCracken did in the Froch corner. The guy was excellent imo really kept Froch in check and grounded him on a few occasions when the Froch ego was starting to rear it's ugly head.
He is really turning out to be a great trainer and the advice he was giving round after round(Although Froch didn't hear it until the second half of the fight) was right on the money. This guy deserves some credit for his part in the rise of Carl Froch.

[safe_pa]

I thought that last night, McCracken did a very good job, his advice was spot on and inbetween the 10-11 round when I thought I heard Froch say "I'm not going to do it am I?" McCracken was quick to dismiss it and tell Carl what he should be doing to win. If he could only get Carl to tighten up the defence a bit.

[Scotty321]

McCracken did a superb job in the corner but shouldn't he have his fighter better prepared before the fight? It was obvious that Taylor would land easily if Froch hadn't improved his defence.

[Farmboxer]

McCracken did a great job.

I can't believe this fight was not shown in England!

[LosG]

Shame Froch never once listened to him and got his hands up!

McCracken was speaking alot of sense but im not convinced Froch was taking much of it in, and just seemed to be boxing on insinct.

[slipnduck]

Shame Froch never once listened to him and got his hands up!

McCracken was speaking alot of sense but im not convinced Froch was taking much of it in, and just seemed to be boxing on insinct.

I'd agree. His(McCracken's) competance would be illustrated better with a fighter who actually took on board and tried to impliment his advice.
Froch is Froch and I doubt anyone could change him.

[Robot16]

First time i seen that trainer, but i was really impressed with him.
Good advice all night and good words of support too.

[timber]

Hes a great trainer, but he seriously needs to convince Froch to keep his gloves up.He said that many times but it fell on deaf ears. At this level Froch must have a better defence.

[leon 7766]

The fact that Froch wouldnt listen about keeping his guard up must be a worry

[Beeston Brawler]

Some of the Americans on the GF were critical of McCracken.

I thought his advice was pretty much spot on throughout.

[TFFP]

I echo this, he was good.

The thing is, you are only as "world class" as your fighter...really. Just because Froch won or lost, it wouldn't really have changed McCracken's abilities. He's been doing his thing for some years.

[ninebar]

I echo this, he was good.

The thing is, you are only as "world class" as your fighter...really. Just because Froch won or lost, it wouldn't really have changed McCracken's abilities. He's been doing his thing for some years.

The reason i ask if he's World Class now is he has guided Froch to the Title over Pascal and now the first defence against good opposition on foreign soil.
Although Froch didn't listen to him so much early you can see the respect between the two and the way McCracken talks to Froch he cut's straight to the chase "Stop Loading up and box this guy...He's making you look silly" and a great line after i think the eight round when Froch smugley sit's in his corner saying "I've got him" and McCracken tells him "Listen son...No you don't". Really impressed.:yep

[Beeston Brawler]

I like the fact that he is able to get his points across in a firm but controlled manner.

You listen to some guys like Pepe Correa carrying on and think jeez..... even someone like Billy Graham gets pretty animated, whilst McCracken stays calm.

[achillesthegreat]

McCracken did a great job.

I can't believe this fight was not shown in England!

seconded.

[Benjiabc]

Yes McCracken certainly did a great job.

I was very impressed with him

[SeasideSlugger]

He's come in for a fair bit of stick in the past, and it's the first time we've heard most of what he has to say in a fight.

Pretty much on the money the whole night, read the fight exactly as it was.

It must be bloody frustrating when your fighter has most of the tools but doesn't seem to use them as you'd ideally like.

How many times must he say in the gym "GET YOUR FUCKING LEFT HAND UP!!!"

[robpalmer135]

yeh McCracken looks a very good trainer. Who else does he work with?

[Boro chris]

Some of the Americans on the GF were critical of McCracken.

I thought his advice was pretty much spot on throughout.

What fucking reason did they have to be critical?
Jesus wept!:patsch
I thought McCracken did a spot on job!

[trotter]

His advice was spot on

But everyone saying Froch should get his left hand up - come on

He isn't gonna start doing that now is he

[Mandanda]

robert was top class and also very loyal after losing his mum to be in froch's corner for the pascal fight i thought that was top class. he cares for his fighters and also has a plan.

froch fights the way he fights because he's into the macho side of sport and some fighters have to take big risks to get the rewards and froch leaves himself open so that he can explode with powerful counters.

if you watch in mid rounds froch started putting hands up for few seconds every so often and hitting taylor with ease. froch i hope learns to take all robs advice but i doubt he will although he has apologized which is only right.

what i like about rob is that he thinks about the tactical and technical points and gets it over well which is hard in that type situation. imo the older robs gets the better and better he will become.

[GPater11093]

Some of the Americans on the GF were critical of McCracken.

I thought his advice was pretty much spot on throughout.

heard this too dont know why

I like the fact that he is able to get his points across in a firm but controlled manner.

You listen to some guys like Pepe Correa carrying on and think jeez..... even someone like Billy Graham gets pretty animated, whilst McCracken stays calm.

i do think some fighters need an animated coach but not Froch for example Moorer vs Holyfield 1 but these are rare fighters and rare instances

yeh McCracken looks a very good trainer. Who else does he work with?

dosent he work with the Mick Hennesey boys like Barker etc..

my view on McKracken

he was good he told him the right advise in a calmed controlled manner which i like in a corner, he had worked out a game plan that was effective see the last few rounds but Froch didnt always stick to it my only critisism is he must be letting Froch drop his left hand in training as he constantly does it so he must work on that also i think early he should have got abit more angry with Froch not animated but maybe a quiet word in his ear were losing this or something like tghat

[debaser]

The fact that Froch wouldnt listen about keeping his guard up must be a worry

Agreed. Spot on advice but if he can't convince his man to remember the basics then he cannot be described as a world class trainer.

[debaser]

Think about this, as good as McCracken's advice was, Froch ignored every word of it. Look at Pac listening to Freddie Roach in between rounds and he's absolutely transfixed. Froch just didn't have any faith in what McCracken was telling him and decided to disregard it and go it alone.

[mcvey]

Just watched the Showtime version of Taylor/Froch, Did anybody notice the great job Rob McCracken did in the Froch corner. The guy was excellent imo really kept Froch in check and grounded him on a few occasions when the Froch ego was starting to rear it's ugly head.
He is really turning out to be a great trainer and the advice he was giving round after round(Although Froch didn't hear it until the second half of the fight) was right on the money. This guy deserves some credit for his part in the rise of Carl Froch.
Froch ignored McCracken for the most part.so I dont see where credit is due,I thought Froch was very lucky myself he needed a ko to win imo and as Taylor faded he got it.Froch has horrible fundamentals he has the defence of a man with no arms two left feet and throws sloppy uppercuts from out of range.Kessler will eat him.

[captain k]

Truth is I think frochs ego gets in the way off him listening to any trainer. Mccracken done a great job
Kept calm gave great advice but it fell on deaf ears even after the knockdown froch refused to keep
His hands up. As many people have said its a macho thing with froch but if that knock down didn't humble him
I hate to see what will

[margo82]

Our trainers are very good in the corner, but don't think they're actually good in the training aspect.

I don't think people like McGirt, Roger Mayweather, Floyd Mayweather Sr etc actually give good advice in the corners, but they're great in the gym.

Whereas people like McCracken, Booth and Graham are very good in the corners, talk a lot of sense.

[captain k]

Our trainers are very good in the corner, but don't think they're actually good in the training aspect.

I don't think people like McGirt, Roger Mayweather, Floyd Mayweather Sr etc actually give good advice in the corners, but they're great in the gym.

Whereas people like McCracken, Booth and Graham are very good in the corners, talk a lot of sense.

good point

[Polymath]

Our trainers are very good in the corner, but don't think they're actually good in the training aspect.

I don't think people like McGirt, Roger Mayweather, Floyd Mayweather Sr etc actually give good advice in the corners, but they're great in the gym.

Whereas people like McCracken, Booth and Graham are very good in the corners, talk a lot of sense.

Exactly.

There's no point telling him to keep his hands up all of a sudden now that he's got to world level; its too late, he should have that engrained into him in training and earlier in his career. This is the fighters and the trainers fault.