What do you want Froch to do?

[theuppercut]

To all the Froch fans out there - who do you want him to fight next? There's no doubt he needs a longer rest than he gave himself after the Pascal fight.

So......

an easy defence (Soliman etc)
a unification fight
a name but winnable fight (like Miranda, Bika, Mundine)
or one of these American up and comers (Dirrell, Ward)

At 31 and the kind of fight he's getting involved with he'll be around maybe 2-3 years at the top?

So what do you think?

[Guy]

To shut up about Joe Calzaghe would be a great start.....

[theuppercut]

To shut up about Joe Calzaghe would be a great start.....

Fair point. But who do you want him to fight next?

[debaser]

Take a long break and then maybe a big name who is not so difficult to beat, namely Miranda.

[kosaros]

Bika would be a good fight.

[debaser]

Bika would be a good fight.

It would be an extremely tough fight that would only succeed in making him look terrible.

[Guy]

Bika would be a good fight.

Last man standing toe to toe fight.

Bika's a wild man the same Miranda.

[BremnerBomber]

Fighting Allan Green in the U.S would be a good fight.... then unifacation fight

[McGrain]

Taylor II.

Then the winner of Bute and Green.

Then Bika.

Then Andrade.

Then Kessler.

But that'll never fucking happen.

[McGrain]

It would be an extremely tough fight that would only succeed in making him look terrible.

Froch always looks terrible to me. He's never going to look like Whitaker or Louis, or even Trinidad.

[cityofgod]

He just battered America's best super middleweight on his own manner.

[Cobbler]

Doesn't he have to fight another mandatory?

So he should do that then.

[P4PNo.1]

Give himself a good break then fight a name but winnable fight back in England. Then go looking for the unifivation fights.

[Pantera2000]

winner or MIRANDA vs ward makes the most sense. Back in America to promote himself some more.

[Cobbler]

winner or MIRANDA vs ward makes the most sense. Back in America to promote himself some more.

If it's about promoting himself more then fighting in the UK next probably makes more sense. Then it can be primetime UK time and get a decent live tv slot. The way the time differences work would mean that it could either be shown live in the US in the early evening or with a couple of hours delay at primetime, so has little impact on US coverage.

[LiamE]

winner or MIRANDA vs ward makes the most sense. Back in America to promote himself some more.

Miranda means nothing at 168. The guy cant live with the best middleweights let alone the bigger guys.

That doesnt say much for Green mind you.

Ward is a decent talent but throwing him at Froch I think would be a bit premature. He might have a future but I think he needs another 3 fights or so before he goes for a belt if he is to fulfill his potential.

[Kid Lucky]

winner or MIRANDA vs ward makes the most sense. Back in America to promote himself some more.

:good

But probably better to have the fight over here at Nottingham Arena.

[JIM KELLY]

sort out his fekkin defence!

[victorhugo4222]

To shut up about Joe Calzaghe would be a great start.....

I second that

[KCD]

I second that


I third that:D

[LiamE]

I'd like to see him get his gloves up.

[unorthodox]

i would have liked to see him fight denis inkin seeing has they had a bit of history, its a pity he lost a points decision in his last fight...

[Farmboxer]

I would like to see Froch keep on punching, as Marty Mulcahey used to say.

[dan-b]

I'd like to see him fight Bute but there are lots of great fights out there for him.

[PrideOfWales]

I can't see Bute and his people having the balls to fight Froch especially outside of Canada.

Bute is shit.

[PrideOfWales]

Quite simply, Bute is easily the most over-rated boxer currently operating at 168 but a decent name and another belt. Good fight for Froch if he can get it.

[hellsbells]

I'd like to see him stop blocking punches with his face.

[Power]

supposedly jesse brinkly wants a fight with him, why not take that up, nice easy first defence but also added publicity due to the contender, if he knocks him out early he will also get loads of respect to as he's only been ko'd twice, once early in his career and once in the 11th round.

[threethirteen]

I think if Carl fights another top tier SMW he's going to have problems. Kessler and Bute don't gas like Taylor did - Carl gets stopped by either of those two, IMO.

Give him an exciting, respectable opponent like Bika or Andrade. If he beats them convincingly then he's got a claim for fighting Bute. If he beats Andrade well he's got a claim for Kessler. But either Bika or Andrade can beat Froch.

[Raashid]

He should play on his Jewish heritage and get a following in NYC, which may lead to big paydays against people like Miranda.

[Charles187]

He should play on his Jewish heritage and get a following in NYC, which may lead to big paydays against people like Miranda.

:lol:

[Charles187]

To answer the question, it has to be Kessler. If loses, at least he'd know he would never have beat JC. And if he wins.......

[Dan684]

He should fight Bute next. Let kessler have a 'tune up' coz he's been out for too long now. Then if Froch beats Bute then at least Kessler would be 'ring fit'

[PrideOfWales]

To answer the question, it has to be Kessler. If loses, at least he'd know he would never have beat JC. And if he wins.......

This is a very good point actually. If Froch fights and beats Kessler next, that would put all sorts of pressure on Joe Calzaghe.

[robpalmer135]

I think Froch need to play on his "Tough, Hard, Never Give in, Get hit to hit them back" reputation he now has with the Yanks. HBO and Goldenboyu wanted to build up Katsidis to be the new Arturo Gatti but it has not worked, maybe Froch can fill that void.

He should fight someone like Miranda, Andrade, Bika. All of those would be wars. Then move towards a Bute or Kessler unification at the end of 2010.

[robpalmer135]

Also i dont get how looseing to Kessler proves he would loose to JC. They are completly different fighters.

Dont get me wrong i think both Kessler and JC beats Froch convinsingly, but still???

[Bodysnatcher]

Well, don't the WBC insist on two uniterrupted mandatories for every new champion, barring exceptional circumstances?

So, Ward/Miranda or Dirrell would be in the frame.

Be interesting to see if Showtime get behind one of those fights - if it's Ward and Dirrell I can see them even screening a fight from the UK, ala Calzaghe vs Mitchell. They'll be looking to groom a new American star and Froch has proven himself to them, so I can see that happening.

Although if Miranda beats Ward, that's also a fight I could see Showtime getting behind, although more likely if it's on American soil.

However, it all depends - Ward (win permitting) and Dirrell might not want to go to the UK: Carl might insist on a home defence.

It could therefore be Murat he faces, and you'd have to say he's earned a relatively easier fight.

Lots to ponder really. Looking forward to Froch's immediate future, should be fun.

[Charles187]

Also i dont get how looseing to Kessler proves he would loose to JC. They are completly different fighters.

Dont get me wrong i think both Kessler and JC beats Froch convinsingly, but still???

Fair point, but although it was a tough fight JC did beat kessler fairly handily in the end. If Froch struggled badly against him then he could be pretty sure he wouldnt have beat JC. It would also dis-spell any suggestion of the fight in the public eyes too.

[Charles187]

This is a very good point actually. If Froch fights and beats Kessler next, that would put all sorts of pressure on Joe Calzaghe.

I still dont think it would work, but he could at least make the claim.

[rumour24tiger]

Bika would be a good fight.Bika - already lost to calzaghe and bute

no gain unless he can stop him

ward-miranda winner next fortnight will be WBC mandatory

try and get winner in nottingham next sept/oct, get mandatory out the way, look for big fight

or fight some big puncher with straight forward style, let froch work on technical stuff a bit and fight sensibly

[rumour24tiger]

Well, don't the WBC insist on two uniterrupted mandatories for every new champion, barring exceptional circumstances?

So, Ward/Miranda or Dirrell would be in the frame.

Be interesting to see if Showtime get behind one of those fights - if it's Ward and Dirrell I can see them even screening a fight from the UK, ala Calzaghe vs Mitchell. They'll be looking to groom a new American star and Froch has proven himself to them, so I can see that happening.

Although if Miranda beats Ward, that's also a fight I could see Showtime getting behind, although more likely if it's on American soil.

However, it all depends - Ward (win permitting) and Dirrell might not want to go to the UK: Carl might insist on a home defence.

It could therefore be Murat he faces, and you'd have to say he's earned a relatively easier fight.

Lots to ponder really. Looking forward to Froch's immediate future, should be fun.
I think Ward will beat Miranda, become mandatory. But I think there will be alot of hassle making the fight. Ward being an Olympic gold medallist will probably want it at home. Maybe Showtime will help him. ie refusing to travel for froch-ward. who knows. Showtime will have US bias, unless they see Froch as a value for money commodity. If Froch can get the fast Ward at home, this is a great defence for him. A tricky fight but if Ward has any cracks he will show 'em in the lion's den. Froch certainly deserves to defend the title back home, and Hennessy deserves to make some money from a solid home title defence.

IMO Ward will enter in the Ring mag top 10 if he beats Miranda, and when Ring take Mundine (now a middle) out of their ratings.

[LiamE]

I think Ward will beat Miranda, become mandatory. But I think there will be alot of hassle making the fight. Ward being an Olympic gold medallist will probably want it at home. Maybe Showtime will help him. ie refusing to travel for froch-ward. who knows. Showtime will have US bias, unless they see Froch as a value for money commodity. If Froch can get the fast Ward at home, this is a great defence for him. A tricky fight but if Ward has any cracks he will show 'em in the lion's den. Froch certainly deserves to defend the title back home, and Hennessy deserves to make some money from a solid home title defence.

IMO Ward will enter in the Ring mag top 10 if he beats Miranda, and when Ring take Mundine (now a middle) out of their ratings.

Last time I saw the the ring 168 rankings they had Green in the top ten so clearly they are a load of bollocks though.

[PrideOfWales]

Last time I saw the the ring 168 rankings they had Green in the top ten so clearly they are a load of bollocks though.

You are talking about the magazine that had Gavin Rees installed at number 3 after doing nothing more than beating a lethargic M'Baye.

[rumour24tiger]

Last time I saw the the ring 168 rankings they had Green in the top ten so clearly they are a load of bollocks though.I can see how he mnade it with the KO of De leon jr.

But sadly Green was ranked before that. It was a weird rating. I would have had Pascal in top 10 for extending Froch KOing Neivas and battering Ikeke.

[dominic1234]

Is Pavlik out of the question?

The telegragh said they were scheduled to have talks.

[Bodysnatcher]

Is Pavlik out of the question?

The telegragh said they were scheduled to have talks.

I believe he's out of the question for Froch's next fight, which has to be a mandatory - willing to be corrected on that, it's just my understanding.

However, if Froch gets past his next opponnent, that would shape up nicely for Pavlik, who would be coming off the likely unification fight with Abraham.

If Pavlik wins that (and maybe if he doesn't), Froch vs Pavlik would seem a very possible fight.

Lots of `ifs` there though.

[robpalmer135]

Pavlik will move up within a year. Froch should fight winnable fights in the meantime because Pavlik would be a mega pay day and a winnable fight for him

[UndisputedUK]

I'd keep away from that Bika guy. He's pretty relentless and gave Calzaghe fits. High risk, little reward.

He might as well go for the biggest fights at 168 and then maybe move up to light heavyweight. A good tactic maybe would be to take a gimme in Nottingham next. Then a challenge against Pascal if he wins the WBC at 175lbs. If Froch was to lose that he would still keep the 168lbs title. If he won, he would be a dual champion and even more fights would open up.

After those two, which should set him up quite well, some bigger fights, possible unifications.

He needs to minimise any possible loss, and try to prolong his career earning potential. We don't want another Witter situation.

[UndisputedUK]

I believe he's out of the question for Froch's next fight, which has to be a mandatory - willing to be corrected on that, it's just my understanding.

However, if Froch gets past his next opponnent, that would shape up nicely for Pavlik, who would be coming off the likely unification fight with Abraham.

If Pavlik wins that (and maybe if he doesn't), Froch vs Pavlik would seem a very possible fight.

Lots of `ifs` there though.


Why does Froch have to fight a mandatory, he beat the current number 4 and he beat Taylor who was number 1. He should be clear of mandatories for now. I would go for Mundine.

[Jetset78]

Froch should stay fighting in US or Canada where he is developing a following.

A fight with another American maybe Pavlik.

If he was really ambitious then he could try Hopkins. That would catapult him into the mega bucks if he won. Unfortunately I dont think he would win. But if he did....

[Bodysnatcher]

Why does Froch have to fight a mandatory, he beat the current number 4 and he beat Taylor who was number 1. He should be clear of mandatories for now. I would go for Mundine.

I think it's in the WBC rules that a new champ has to have two uninterrupted mandatories.

Hence why the WBC are forcing Vitali to fight Maskaev before anyone else, even though he just had a mandatory against Gomez.

However, their `rules` are notoriously flexible and they make them up and break them as they go along.

[THN]

He should go for an easy defense, after then the other belts in SMW. And the party will be over.