Why does Froch...

[TFFP]

throw an uppercut from 5 feet away?

[Fat Joe]

He's watched a lot of Hamed and RJJ tapes

[dwilson]

So he does not do a 'Tyson Fury' on his nose.

[TFFP]

Is there not a point, after 25 fights, in which you tell yourself 'I've never landed one of these - its a complete waste of energy'?

Or, has anybody ever seen him land one?

[icemax]

Is there not a point, after 25 fights, in which you tell yourself 'I've never landed one of these - its a complete waste of energy'?

Or, has anybody ever seen him land one?

:yep

He has landed, but not against decent opposition. He doesn't just load it up, he sticks the kitchen sink on it...and then sends a postcard to his opposition informing them of his intentions....it really is ugly to watch, but a bingo if it ever landed (unlikely).

[1stcontact]

So he does not do a 'Tyson Fury' on his nose.

:rofl

Though its not like he could make it look much worse:lol:

[Guy]

throw an uppercut from 5 feet away?

:yep

He has landed, but not against decent opposition. He doesn't just load it up, he sticks the kitchen sink on it...and then sends a postcard to his opposition informing them of his intentions....it really is ugly to watch, but a bingo if it ever landed (unlikely).

:yep I heard he was well trained in WWF wrestling techniques.

He stamps his foot on the canvas when he strikes too...

[BIG WORM]

gets more torque on it!!!????

more power aint it.......

fuck knows

[The Kurgan]

:yep I heard he was well trained in WWF wrestling techniques.

He stamps his foot on the canvas when he strikes too...

I suppose he has to have been doing something with his time since 2002, because he certainly has been boxing much...

[ishy]

:yep

He has landed, but not against decent opposition. He doesn't just load it up, he sticks the kitchen sink on it...and then sends a postcard to his opposition informing them of his intentions....it really is ugly to watch, but a bingo if it ever landed (unlikely).

:lol::yep

[Claypole]

Wasn't it one of those long uppercuts that thoroughly unhinged and dropped Taylor in the final round?

I know Froch misses a lot of uppercuts, but when they land they're pretty spectacular....

[rooq]

didn't he finish brian magee with one of those?

[GPater11093]

i saw it and said WTF

it was from about 5 feet away it does nothing, i think froch has no skill whatsover at the top class Taylor made him look silly

[slip&counter]

the same reason he puts his hands down, pulls his right hand back from his guard position after jabbing with his left, squares up and takes the same shot over and over

he has a lot of fundamental flaws, its just a question of how far his chin, heart will take him because if he stays at this level any smart fighter with a decent skill set will eventually beat him and he knows it thats why he wants the calzaghe/money fight asap because he will be nothing without a strap, lose and he becomes high risk little reward

[TFFP]

I think it was actually a proper straight right that hurt Taylor initially. When he was hurt he started unloading the kitchen sink which was pretty ugly. Froch's best punch is a short straight right. I don't know why he doesn't use it more instead of these crazy uppercuts and roundhouse hooks.

I'm talking about the uppercuts where he starts off on one side of the ring and flings his whole body into an uppercut. Carl, an uppercut is best used on the inside or to catch an opponent coming in.

[trotter]

Yes, because TFFP knows more about boxing than Carl Froch lol

Let's hope Carl is reading and learning from this thread

[GPater11093]

TFFP probably doesknow more about boxing

[ninebar]

I've seen those uppercuts land and they look devastating but that was at British level. Against World Class opposition he'll have trouble landing many of them and should work on shortening them up quick style.

[El Cepillo]

'cause he think he's the white Naseem

[El Cepillo]

Yes, because TFFP knows more about boxing than Carl Froch lol

Let's hope Carl is reading and learning from this thread

I'm fairly certain that TFFP invented boxing. And when it didn't catch on, he invented Joe Calzaghe to punish us all.

[HOF]

This is is a good point actually and goes to the heart of why Taylor was so effective for the majority of the fight until he tired. Froch's lack of ability when it comes to the movement (or lack of it) of his feet and head means that he's been able to throw that uppercut from a landable position until he stepped up in class on Saturday. He knew when he was throwing those uppercuts that they weren't going to land but it was just a way of getting in Taylor's face because he just couldn't cut down the distance with any of his own movement until Taylor discovered he had a big leak in his gas tank

[Guy]

'cause he think he's the white Naseem


I don't think so he would have quit by now.:deal

[Bodysnatcher]

Al Bernstein was absolutely right when he said at around the round 9 stage something like "the only punches Froch should be throwing now are the straight one-twos."

[rumour24tiger]

Body shots would set up the uppercuts nicely. Body shots would also help break the opponent down.

I think if Carl tries to break opponents down bit by bit he wouldn't need a last gasp stoppage like that.

I think confidence is a big thing also. There was a tentative look about him for much of the fight. However when he realised the impact his long right had, he looked good in there. It's not like Taylor "simply tired and knocked himself out" - Froch let the right go freely at the end and they were heavy, heavy shots with real impact.

I'd like to see him in with a strong fighter like Pavlik, Bika or Andrade. Where he can use a hard jab, drive the opponent back, set up body shots then uppercuts...and then throw the left-right power combo when there is a good opening.

[BURNLEYBLUE]

I think it was actually a proper straight right that hurt Taylor initially. When he was hurt he started unloading the kitchen sink which was pretty ugly. Froch's best punch is a short straight right. I don't know why he doesn't use it more instead of these crazy uppercuts and roundhouse hooks.

I'm talking about the uppercuts where he starts off on one side of the ring and flings his whole body into an uppercut. Carl, an uppercut is best used on the inside or to catch an opponent coming in.
I'm sure your advice has been taken and logged for future defences TFFP :good:hey

[El Cepillo]

I don't think so he would have quit by now.:deal

:fire

:good

[TFFP]

I'm sure your advice has been taken and logged for future defences TFFP :good:hey
I'd hope so. TFFP has noted the only working punch for Froch is the jab and straight right. His hooks and uppercuts are clownish. I'm sure a world class trainer like McCracken will have seen this.

[Darni187]

I'd hope so. TFFP has noted the only working punch for Froch is the jab and straight right. His hooks and uppercuts are clownish. I'm sure a world class trainer like McCracken will have seen this.

TFFP is not a human, it's a super boxing computer, if you put your questions in, it gives out the answer.

I Heard Golden Boy are wanting to buy TFFP.

[mbrockett]

froch's 'boxing fundamentals' are the new khan's chin

[icemax]

TFFP has noted

That you Ricky? :yep

[BURNLEYBLUE]

I'd hope so. TFFP has noted the only working punch for Froch is the jab and straight right. His hooks and uppercuts are clownish. I'm sure a world class trainer like McCracken will have seen this.
He made many mistakes in the Taylor fight that i dont think he'll make again. Admitedly he did look novice raw at times in the fight, more so than in previous fights.He still pulled off a magnificent win,and McCracken will defo iron out those creases.:good

[mbrockett]

froch's uppercut is based on ken and ryu's tiger uppercut from streetfighter 2 - fact.

[Broxi]

It was that uppercut that landed him in trouble in 3rd and got him KD against Taylor ... he threw it, missed, got bounced off the ropes and set up for the KD.

He doesn't seem to ever listen to anything McCracken says.

[pathmanc1986]

he does have a world amateur medal doesnt he?


he couldnt be that bad fundamentally if thats the case?


or wait........all the am's that qualified for that were all 'bums' as have been every single of the professional fighters that he has faced....

[BURNLEYBLUE]

In froch's interview on buncey he said he was given no time at all to warm up(a dibellend ploy no doubt) Just watched the fight again and it's clearly a massive factor in the how the fight went.After such a bad start he just could'nt get his rythm goin,everything was forced. It's a horrible feeling, nothing flows like it should.You start to think to much about things you can usually do in your sleep.And when you force it you start lunging in with silly shots,gettin your feet tangled up,nothin feels right. Then strangely,when you feel the fights out of reach,you think, fuck it, its shit or bust. and things just happen and your punches start to flow.

[rumour24tiger]

green knocking out de leon jr in the previous fight of the night was the reason, i think

[GPater11093]

i rekon someone huit the nail on the hea earlier saying he watches too much Naz and Roy Jones Jr

in fact its giving me a great idea to write an articule about this Naz effect

[icemax]

in fact its giving me a great idea to write an articule about this Naz effect

Poor little cunt gets blamed for everything :-(......:yep

[rockandrollstar]

froch's uppercut is based on ken and ryu's tiger uppercut from streetfighter 2 - fact.

I always preferred Sagat's uppercut personally.

[Primadonna Kool]

froch's uppercut is based on ken and ryu's tiger uppercut from streetfighter 2 - fact.


:lol:

Combo from Killer Instinct...

[TheChamp1000]

He throws the uppercut because he is a big street fighter fan
he is showing his respect to ryu, ken and especially sagat
TIGER ............ UPPERCUT

[TheChamp1000]

froch's uppercut is based on ken and ryu's tiger uppercut from streetfighter 2 - fact.

Dagnaaamit!!

[JonOli]

If it's not broke, why fix it?:D

[GPater11093]

Poor little cunt gets blamed for everything :-(......:yep

i know but my articule wont be about him entirrely it will be about the Ingles, Naz and RJJ

[icemax]

Ingles, Naz

FFS...blaming Paddys and ****s now :-(, shameful

[TFFP]

If it's not broke, why fix it?:D
It is broke. He lunges across the ring hitting air and leaves himself completely exposed.

[GPater11093]

FFS...blaming Paddys and ****s now :-(, shameful

:rofl:rofl:rofl

and black peple if you count RJJ

im not blaming them i am blaming the people who copied them

[FLINT ISLAND]

Froch is the new Roy Jones of the Super Middleweights with his hands down style and arrogance

Did you see the way he finished off Jermain Taylor - hands down by his sides - stlaking Taylor - then unleashing a volley of fight ending blows.

Froch is one flashy bastard.

Good looking lad - flashy as fuck - gorgeous girlfriend he fucks for fun - and he is a real banger

Didnt waste his time with paper titles - went straight for the WBC title

and made his first defence in America and KO'd the former undisputed world middleweight champion

Joe Calzaghe eat your heart out....................

Froch is the new glamour boy of British Boxing

Calzaghe should be well jealous already

And Froch is just begininng.....................

[TFFP]

Froch is the new Roy Jones of the Super Middleweights with his hands down style and arrogance

Did you see the way he finished off Jermain Taylor - hands down by his sides - stlaking Taylor - then unleashing a volley of fight ending blows.

Froch is one flashy bastard.

Good looking lad - flashy as fuck - gorgeous girlfriend he fucks for fun - and he is a real banger

Didnt waste his time with paper titles - went straight for the WBC title

and made his first defence in America and KO'd the former undisputed world middleweight champion

Joe Calzaghe eat your heart out....................

Froch is the new glamour boy of British Boxing

Calzaghe should be well jealous already

And Froch is just begininng.....................
Flint, have you seen his nose?

He's an ugly cunt from most angles.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Flint, have you seen his nose?

He's an ugly cunt from most angles.

Well while I was serving my ESB ban..................

I was on boxrec

and I was saying Froch was ugly

and all the guys on there were saying

no my sister thinks he is gorgeous

my girlfriend said he was fit

and one guy even said...............I'm not gay but even I can tell he is a handsome lad

I agree - how could anyone love that nose

But the evidence o his girlfirend suggests - Froch is a favorite with the ladies

[FLINT ISLAND]

Well while I was serving my ESB ban..................

I was on boxrec

and I was saying Froch was ugly

and all the guys on there were saying

no my sister thinks he is gorgeous

my girlfriend said he was fit

and one guy even said...............I'm not gay but even I can tell he is a handsome lad

I agree - how could anyone love that nose is a mystery to me but the ladies love him

But the evidence o his girlfirend suggests - Froch is a favorite with the ladies

Froch missus is smarter than Calzaghes

[TFFP]

Well while I was serving my ESB ban..................

I was on boxrec

and I was saying Froch was ugly

and all the guys on there were saying

no my sister thinks he is gorgeous

my girlfriend said he was fit

and one guy even said...............I'm not gay but even I can tell he is a handsome lad

I agree - how could anyone love that nose

But the evidence o his girlfirend suggests - Froch is a favorite with the ladies
He probably gives some great double stimulation whilst eating from the furry cup if you know what I'm saying. The angle and size of nose is big enough to penetrate.

It's either that or his real estate in Nottingham. No girl likes that face.

[GPater11093]

before your last ban was actually being a sound lad and spoke sense now you just blew it