Maskaev-Peter Inactivity

[Sweet Scientist]

Maskaev last fought in Dec. 2006. Peter last fought in Jan. 2007.

This strikes me as one of the biggest periods of activity in a heavyweight title fight in that both the challenger and the defending champ are flirting with nearly a year off. Weird, no? Or correct me?

[Zakman]

Well, I don't know about BOTH being inactive, but I know that in the old days there were times when champs sat on the title - like when Braddock was inactive for like two years before fighting Joe Louis. Of course, Louis wasn't inactive, and we all know how that one turned out.

[compukiller]

It doesn't matter at all in the final analysis. Maskaev is going to get blasted out whether he fought last night or last year:yep

[Zakman]

It doesn't matter at all in the final analysis. Maskaev is going to get blasted out whether he fought last night or last year:yep

Very true. :yep

[badreader]

Very true. :yep

Would you please shut up? I remember insane amount of vCash you had, so is it possible that you are wrong this time :)? What big HW fights did you call wrong? Say, Peter-Wlad? Just give me a hope men...

[AJAX]

iron chin = win
glass chin = loss
that's Zaks boxing expertise summed up

[Motor City Sam]

Not only is the inactivity bad for the fighters (especially Oleg, IMO) but it is also bad for the division. They should have fought sometime in April or May and the winner could be having their next fight in October. Politics strikes again.

[Zakman]

iron chin = win
glass chin = loss
that's Zaks boxing expertise summed up

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

That's what I emphasize, but believe me, it's not ALL I look at when making my calls.

This fight, however, is a CLASSIC case where exactly that logic plays out. I might add that Peter's punching power is also a factor here too.

Peter is gonna blow Oleg out within five. You'll see.:hey

[Goose]

Inactivity is worse for Peter because he will probably come in fat, Maskaev always comes in shape.

[Suge Green]

As a Peter fan, I admit to not appreciating the timeoff. Fear is a great motivator and I wouldn't doubt if OLEG fears Peter, and may be training extremely hard as a result.

...however I don't exactly expect Peter to sit on his ass until October.



...Peter KO Maskaev.

[ralphc]

Well, I don't know about BOTH being inactive, but I know that in the old days there were times when champs sat on the title - like when Braddock was inactive for like two years before fighting Joe Louis. Of course, Louis wasn't inactive, and we all know how that one turned out.



As I recall Braddock was inactive due to the politics of boxing and the wrangling between Louis and Schmeling. Max Baer, on the other hand, was too busy chasing women to be bothered training for a fight.

[ralphc]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

That's what I emphasize, but believe me, it's not ALL I look at when making my calls.

This fight, however, is a CLASSIC case where exactly that logic plays out. I might add that Peter's punching power is also a factor here too.

Peter is gonna blow Oleg out within five. You'll see.:hey


He better blow him out in 5 rounds because by the 6th Peter is usually exhausted. If Maskaev is clever he will take this into account when going into the fight. The question is can Maskaev out box Peter for 12 rounds? :huh

[don owens]

Maskaev will win if he gets past 6. wouldnt be surprised if he knocked Peter out.

[curmudgeon]

This fight, however, is a CLASSIC case where exactly that logic plays out. I might add that Peter's punching power is also a factor here too.


Was not the Wlad-Peter the CLASSIC case? This one is just similar.

[curmudgeon]

As I recall Braddock was inactive due to the politics of boxing and the wrangling between Louis and Schmeling.

HE was not completely inactive - he participated in exhibition fights. One may argue that recent fight by W. Klitchko had been of a similar level of challenge.

[cuchulain]

This one is nowhere near as clearcut as some are calling it. I don't know who will win it (nor does anyone else, otherwise we wouldn't need a fight.)

My guess:

If it ends in the first five, Peter takes it. Beyond that, the edge goes to Maskaev, moreso with each passing round.

[dragosuhail]

i've watched all of oleg's knock out losses and a few things come to mind:

1. maskaev has improved his defense. he mostly was ko'ed with big LEFT hooks. interesting it mainly seemed to be that one type of punch, rather than right hands etc. anyway while he's only getting older his stamina, ring movement and skills are superior to peter.

2. the shots that knocked out maskaev were solid, brought from the floor type shots. the ONLY ko that looked like his chin was pure china was the whitaker one. i suspect he might have not fully recovered to his loss to kirk johnson previously. cause that knockout while legit looked partially like oliver mccall in his rematch with lewis. started crying etc. he wasn't ready i think for that one. the so aside from that ko, the others: mccall in his 7th pro fight, tua a few fights later, johnson who threw some bombs which landed flush and corey t-rew sanders who used his massive frame for those couple left hook bombs.

what im trying to say is maskaev was brought along too fast (mccall and tua before his 13th pro fight) and they are not exactly powder puff punchers by any means. and he really didn't defend too well agains the left hook which is his curse.

so now he has the right hand plastered to his chin to watch for that punch, i think he could scrape through with a UD simply because peter will be underestimating maskaev's chin and stamina for an old man

of course if peter lands a flush bomb at any time i can't see maskaev surviving it. but this is boxing, weak chinned fighters can survive many power punches by skill and sound techniques etc.

don't write maskaev off that easily. :nono

[DamonD]

I have actually been thinking that inactivity will hurt both guys, yeah.
It might affect Maskaev more because he's an older guy, with more miles on the clock.

Mind you, bear in mind Toney was the WBC #1 then decided to take on a 'stay busy' fight in Peter...

[madpup]

Totally agree with some of the posters here. Peter should be the favourite with his superior athletisism, tenacity and power and if he comes in fit and with a game plan, he should win within the first 6 rounds. However, I think it will play out this way: Peter comes in overconfident and not in optimal shape. Maskaev comes in with a game plan and in great shape. Peter tries to blast Maskaev in early rounds, swinging wildly, but Maskaev survives and by round 6 he starts to land at will and Peter starts to run out of ideas. Peter's head becomes a punching bag for the remainder of the match, with Maskaev utilising his superior ring smarts and skills. Peter produces a few flurries, however Maskaev pulls though and wins something like 7 rounds to 5.

[lefthook31]

It really hurts a fighter like Peter more. Maskaev is older and probably will be a little healthier at fight time if he stayed in gym which he said he did during the negotiations. Peter on the other hand, looked like he ate the entire time. He looked horribly out of shape at the press conference, which means he will spend more time trying to lose weight than working on his boxing and timing, so I expect a bad fight from him.
This isnt just a easy fight for Peter. Hes about as one dimensional as Tua, and Maskaev completely outboxed a fit Tua before getting caught in the later rounds. If Maskaev can get past the intial onslaught of Peter, he has a chance to win a decision in my opinion.