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kolcade4
05-02-2009, 09:45 AM
Which Heavyweight possesed the most power youve ever seen: amateur or pro :good or bad!

kolcade4
05-02-2009, 09:54 AM
Sam Peter. Earnie Shavers ,mIKE tySON, Nick Wells, Ron Lyle, Bob Satterfileld COMES TO MIND

kolcade4
05-02-2009, 12:30 PM
hello can i get some feedback on this.........please

Senya13
05-02-2009, 12:32 PM
David Tua

kolcade4
05-02-2009, 12:33 PM
David Tua
good one

kolcade4
05-02-2009, 12:47 PM
george foreman both pro and amateur had great power

Russell
05-02-2009, 01:44 PM
Sam Peter.

:lol::lol::lol:

djanders
05-02-2009, 02:39 PM
Rocky Marciano deserves to be mentioned in this thread. :good

kolcade4
05-02-2009, 04:07 PM
:lol::lol::lol:
sam peter was powerful, was he not?

janitor
05-02-2009, 04:33 PM
Max Baer deserves a shout.

kolcade4
05-02-2009, 05:12 PM
Max Baer deserves a shout.
i forgot about him , good mention

Russell
05-02-2009, 05:26 PM
sam peter was powerful, was he not?

Yes, but not all time powerful, power wise.

Bummy Davis
05-02-2009, 05:26 PM
amatuer Teofilo Stevensons Right hand flattened many American heavys, Nick Wells, In the pros Louis,Marciano,Lewis,Tyson....Foreman had clubbing power not a sharp puncher,Frazier had a great hook, louis and Marciano were the masters of the 6inch levereged bomb

Minotauro
05-02-2009, 06:33 PM
Shavers as well as the others mentioned in addition to guys like Cooney and Cleveland Williams could really hit although not great fighters.

kolcade4
05-02-2009, 07:02 PM
bummy , wells did not fight stevenson, it was bobick that he flattened. Although wells should have been the US rep in the 72 games to fight the cuban but a cut suffered at the team hotel was reopened during the fight and THE REF STOPPED THE FIGHT . WELLS ALTHOUGH WAS WINNING THE FIGHT ON THE CARDS AND HAD SHATTERED BOBICKS NOSE.

Chris Warren
05-03-2009, 06:16 AM
Rocky Marciano deserves to be mentioned in this thread.

Actually Marciano never should never beat mentioned periond unless you are making fun of how overrated he was.

amatuer Teofilo Stevensons Right hand flattened many American heavys, Nick Wells, In the pros Louis,Marciano,Lewis,Tyson....Foreman had clubbing power not a sharp puncher,Frazier had a great hook, louis and Marciano were the masters of the 6inch levereged bomb


I thought Marciano was the master at fighting 40 year old people at the end of their careers and still took 9 rounds of punching to knock them out. You know like how it took him 9 rounds to knock out Archie Moore even though he was knocked out 4 times before he fought Marciano and those 4 times he was knocked out faster than what Maricnao did. Jersey Joe Walcott was also pushing 40 and was knocked out various times in his prime quicker than Marciano did.


Foreman had knockouts in 68 of 76 wins so i think it was a little more than just clubbing power, Frank Bruno, Tommy Morrison, could all punch.

ChrisPontius
05-03-2009, 07:50 AM
I thought Marciano was the master at fighting 40 year old people at the end of their careers and still took 9 rounds of punching to knock them out. You know like how it took him 9 rounds to knock out Archie Moore even though he was knocked out 4 times before he fought Marciano and those 4 times he was knocked out faster than what Maricnao did. Jersey Joe Walcott was also pushing 40 and was knocked out various times in his prime quicker than Marciano did.


Foreman had knockouts in 68 of 76 wins so i think it was a little more than just clubbing power, Frank Bruno, Tommy Morrison, could all punch.

Funny you say that, because in an other thread, you just said that Vitali Klitschko has little power when he has 36 out of 37 by knockout, which is better than 68 out of 76. But i guess your little pea-sized brain can't comprehend why that constitutes a contradiction.


And learn how to quote. At least then your ignorant, retarded shit will be readable ignorant, retarded shit.

Bummy Davis
05-04-2009, 12:00 AM
I did not say he stopped Stevenson, I said Stevenson had great power and so did Wells

SuzieQ49
05-04-2009, 12:03 AM
Teofilio Stevenson. I strongly feel if he was allowed to compete in the pros, he would have been larry holmes kryptonite with that right hand and a jab good enough to compete with Larry's, Teofilio would have knocked Holmes down with a right hand then finished him off.

albinored
05-04-2009, 12:39 AM
...a lot of great punchers named here.....but i must say I'm happy to see nick wells get the kind of attention he deserves. astounding power.
if my memory is right...i think bobick got up off the canvas against nick...if so then i consider that bobick's main acheivement.

jakelamotta
05-04-2009, 01:01 AM
i can't believe none of you assholes mentioned dempsey. this is classic boxing forum right?

RJJ4Life
05-04-2009, 01:17 AM
Mike Tyson had the most power in this modern era. Joe Louis the most I ever saw

Russell
05-04-2009, 04:53 AM
i can't believe none of you assholes mentioned dempsey. this is classic boxing forum right?

RAGE FACE :rofl

kolcade4
05-04-2009, 10:45 AM
Teofilio Stevenson. I strongly feel if he was allowed to compete in the pros, he would have been larry holmes kryptonite with that right hand and a jab good enough to compete with Larry's, Teofilio would have knocked Holmes down with a right hand then finished him off.
you say that stevenson would have been holmes' kryptonite, yet nick wells already was for holmes.IN 1972 NICK KO' D HOLMES TWICE, ONCE IN THE GOLDEN GLOVE NATIONALS IN THE 3RD RD AND THEN LATER THAT YEAR IN THE OLYMPIC TRIALS IN THE FIRST RD WITH A HORRIBLE GASH ABOVE HIS(nick's ) EYE THAT HE SUFFERED FROM A DOOR HIITING HIm AT THE TEAM HOTEL ACCIDENTLY BY A TEAMATE, THEREFORE WHICH THAT CUT ENDED UP COSTING WELLS A SPOT ON THE 72 OLYMPIC TEAM. i know wells was a flop as a pro but i know for a fact that winky groom nick wells' (worthless)manager/ trainer and nick himself sat down with don king when nick was pro to try to set a 3rd fight between the two of course don would not have any of it for two reasons 1. nick did not have the ranking to i guess justify the fight, yet it could have been non title exhibition.2) IT WAS GOING TO BE A COMPLETE EMBARRASMENT FOR LARRY TO LOSE TO SOMEONE WHO WAS RANKED 13 OR 15 (WHATEVER OLE NICK'S RANKING WAS AT THE TIME). NICK WELLS WAS THE RIDDLE THAT LARRY HOLMES COULD NOT SOLVE, THEREFORE JUSTIFYING THAT HE WAS LARRY'S TRUE KRYPTONITE.

JN95
05-04-2009, 10:50 AM
Prime john mcdermott/ micheal sprott

Bummy Davis
05-04-2009, 03:25 PM
you say that stevenson would have been holmes' kryptonite, yet nick wells already was for holmes.IN 1972 NICK KO' D HOLMES TWICE, ONCE IN THE GOLDEN GLOVE NATIONALS IN THE 3RD RD AND THEN LATER THAT YEAR IN THE OLYMPIC TRIALS IN THE FIRST RD WITH A HORRIBLE GASH ABOVE HIS(nick's ) EYE THAT HE SUFFERED FROM A DOOR HIITING HIm AT THE TEAM HOTEL ACCIDENTLY BY A TEAMATE, THEREFORE WHICH THAT CUT ENDED UP COSTING WELLS A SPOT ON THE 72 OLYMPIC TEAM. i know wells was a flop as a pro but i know for a fact that winky groom nick wells' (worthless)manager/ trainer and nick himself sat down with don king when nick was pro to try to set a 3rd fight between the two of course don would not have any of it for two reasons 1. nick did not have the ranking to i guess justify the fight, yet it could have been non title exhibition.2) IT WAS GOING TO BE A COMPLETE EMBARRASMENT FOR LARRY TO LOSE TO SOMEONE WHO WAS RANKED 13 OR 15 (WHATEVER OLE NICK'S RANKING WAS AT THE TIME). NICK WELLS WAS THE RIDDLE THAT LARRY HOLMES COULD NOT SOLVE, THEREFORE JUSTIFYING THAT HE WAS LARRY'S TRUE KRYPTONITE.

Wells devastated Holmes and this was (the sparring partners of Ali )Holmes...Wells had his number...I think Wels would have needed a great trainer to adjust his power into a style. Nick also was a southpaw and they used to convert Heavyweight Southpaws ( Joe Frazier was a converted southpaw so was Cooney (great left hookers) If Wells left Texas and his son (he was the solo parent) he could have had a manager with clout and a great trainer...he needed a top trainer for the conversion. People dont realise how you can ruin a great prospect by not having the right teacher to adjust to pro's especially those with extensive amatuer careers....but Wells could HIT and he was a squat 5"10 but solid white guy from Texas

kolcade4
05-04-2009, 04:34 PM
Wells devastated Holmes and this was (the sparring partners of Ali )Holmes...Wells had his number...I think Wels would have needed a great trainer to adjust his power into a style. Nick also was a southpaw and they used to convert Heavyweight Southpaws ( Joe Frazier was a converted southpaw so was Cooney (great left hookers) If Wells left Texas and his son (he was the solo parent) he could have had a manager with clout and a great trainer...he needed a top trainer for the conversion. People dont realise how you can ruin a great prospect by not having the right teacher to adjust to pro's especially those with extensive amatuer careers....but Wells could HIT and he was a squat 5"10 but solid white guy from Texas
i ve got wells listed at 6' even

Bummy Davis
05-04-2009, 05:38 PM
I found a story last week with his height I posted it somewhere let me see if I can find it

Jersey Joe
05-04-2009, 06:23 PM
Tommy Morrison's left hook was one of the most powerful punches I saw.

Bummy Davis
05-04-2009, 09:09 PM
Nick Wells
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Name: Nick Wells
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Nationality: US American
Hometown: Fort Worth, Texas, USA
Born: 1951-02-11
Stance: Southpaw
Height: 5′ 10″

Bummy Davis
05-05-2009, 12:01 AM
i ve got wells listed at 6' even


Nick Wells
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Name: Nick Wells
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Nationality: US American
Hometown: Fort Worth, Texas, USA
Born: 1951-02-11
Stance: Southpaw
Height: 5′ 10″

Bummy Davis
05-05-2009, 12:12 AM
It could be wrong

albinored
05-05-2009, 01:07 AM
..bummy...5'10" seems right to me, based on how he looked standing next to his opponents. of course, his opponents usually weren't standing all that long....

Russell
05-05-2009, 01:35 AM
Prime john mcdermott/ micheal sprott

Uh, explanation?

Or is this just slobbering all over fighters from the UK? *Looks at avatar*

GPater11093
05-05-2009, 05:37 AM
Uh, explanation?

Or is this just slobbering all over fighters from the UK? *Looks at avatar*

its a joke

kolcade4
05-05-2009, 03:36 PM
..bummy...5'10" seems right to me, based on how he looked standing next to his opponents. of course, his opponents usually weren't standing all that long....
i am from fort worth and followed nick's career closly, i could have sworn he was 6'.

albinored
05-06-2009, 02:09 AM
..coldcase.....i saw nick on tv only and not a lot, so of course i defer to you....

Bummy Davis
05-06-2009, 09:59 AM
..bummy...5'10" seems right to me, based on how he looked standing next to his opponents. of course, his opponents usually weren't standing all that long....

LOL thats true, I think he held the record for 1st round KO's could you Imagine if a Charlie Goldman or a Freddie Brown/Ray Arcel got hold of him when he turned pro

kolcade4
05-06-2009, 02:33 PM
..coldcase.....i saw nick on tv only and not a lot, so of course i defer to you....
tell me about when you saw him on tv please.

My dinner with Conteh
05-06-2009, 03:20 PM
bummy , wells did not fight stevenson, it was bobick that he flattened. Although wells should have been the US rep in the 72 games to fight the cuban but a cut suffered at the team hotel was reopened during the fight and THE REF STOPPED THE FIGHT . WELLS ALTHOUGH WAS WINNING THE FIGHT ON THE CARDS AND HAD SHATTERED BOBICKS NOSE.


I think Wells would definitely have had more chance vs Stevenson due to his brawling style and raw power (something Teofilo often had trouble with) than Bobick did and perhaps he was unlucky not to make the team. However, it has to be said that that win made it 4-0 to Duane in the amateurs, so he seemed to have Nick's number somewhat.

kolcade4
05-06-2009, 06:30 PM
I think Wells would definitely have had more chance vs Stevenson due to his brawling style and raw power (something Teofilo often had trouble with) than Bobick did and perhaps he was unlucky not to make the team. However, it has to be said that that win made it 4-0 to Duane in the amateurs, so he seemed to have Nick's number somewhat.
i spoke with nick before about the fights w bobbick and i remember that he said he felt he truly only lost to bobbick once, when nick entered into intl comp in the cism games and the rds were longer, he just was too tired,against bobbick--- the other loss nick said that the ref was from the same town as bobbick and didnt like nick for some reason. nick said that he had fell down somewhere in the fight which was a balance knockdown. when he got up early in the count, nick told the ref he was ok, and the ref stopped the fight right then and there ,nick was not even hurt. nick protested but TO no avail he got fucked.(THAT WAS JUST HOME COOKING I GUESS). the last time they met was the 72 trials in which nick had shattered bobbicks nose and had knocked bobbick down and was kicking bobbicks ass. but the cut above nicks eye was bleeding badly causing blood to flow into his left eye. bobbick did not cause the cut, it was a door at the team hotel that caused it, all bobbick had to do was breathe on the cut for it to reopen. nick had him beat cold, the ref stopped the fight while nick was on the stool going into the 3rd rd. robbed again,that is why holmes fought bobbick, it was a boxoff due to nicks injury, the olympic commiitee knew nick would have won, so they had abox off between holmes and bobbick to decide the 72 us hvywt olympic spot. i would have loved to see wells vs stevenson

Mike T
05-06-2009, 07:39 PM
Sam Peter. Earnie Shavers ,mIKE tySON, Nick Wells, Ron Lyle, Bob Satterfileld COMES TO MINDSam Peter:huh

Titan1
10-20-2010, 03:08 PM
Greg Page.

Russell
10-20-2010, 03:16 PM
Good ol' Courage Tshabalala.

"Tshabalala had a reported amateur boxing record of 72-1 with 72 knockouts. He lost his first amateur match by decision, and won all amateur bouts from then on by first round knockout [2]."

Jear
10-20-2010, 03:18 PM
i am from fort worth and followed nick's career closly, i could have sworn he was 6'.


Arent you Nick jnr??