Better Resume: Hamed or Hatton?

[El Cepillo]

Your thoughts?

I think Hatton has the single best win, but in terms of depth Hamed my take this overall.

[HairyHighlander]

Hamed, no question.

I presume you are meaning Kosta

He was done.


Hamed

[HairyHighlander]

KT very inactive at the time


Great fighter though.

[TFFP]

Even.

Hatton's beaten better names, Hamed fought better depth of competition. I don't see Urango, Collazo, Malignaggi as a good second tier of opposition, and the Tszyu's and Castillo's have too many question marks over them to compensate for Hamed's better depth. So I call it even.

Better fighter is Hamed. I don't believe Hamed would have been so brutally outclassed against Pacquiao.

[El Cepillo]

Hamed, no question.

I presume you are meaning Kosta

He was done.


Hamed

Kostya is clearly better than anything on Naz's resume, but Hatton's after the TOP 3 wins falls off a cliff, whereas Naz has a pretty solid looking TOP 10 names.

[HairyHighlander]

Kostya is clearly better than anything on Naz's resume, but Hatton's after the TOP 3 wins falls off a cliff, whereas Naz has a pretty solid looking TOP 10 names.


aye.....on paper, same as Jones on Calzaghes

[HairyHighlander]

Hatton taking on the best, beats Naz though, no doubt.


Hatton had a go twice.

[TheUzi]

Very close resume,good fighters....both failing their biggest tests at the highest level tho.
Naz's could've been ALOT better.

[El Cepillo]

Hatton taking on the best, beats Naz though, no doubt.


Hatton had a go twice.

Hatton took on the best twice, and got brutally KO'd twice.

Hamed took on the best once, lost on points and retired.

I'd call that about even :lol:

[HairyHighlander]

Hatton took on the best twice, and got brutally KO'd twice.

Hamed took on the best once, lost on points and retired.

I'd call that about even :lol:


I'd call it "about" even too but i dont :good

[SouthpawSlayer]

hamed

[GPater11093]

Hamed as he had the better depth and also moved up a weight and became a force at the next weight instead of just a cameo like Hatton at WW

Hamed is by miles the more talented however.

Tszyu was a great win as Tszyu was past it but was still a really goof fighter and was the best at the weight bar maybe Mayweather i cant remmeber if he was still at LWW in 2005

didnt hatton win FIghter of the year in 05 or 06 did Naz ever win that

[El Cepillo]

Hamed as he had the better depth and also moved up a weight and became a force at the next weight instead of just a cameo like Hatton at WW

Hamed is by miles the more talented however.

Tszyu was a great win as Tszyu was past it but was still a really goof fighter and was the best at the weight bar maybe Mayweather i cant remmeber if he was still at LWW in 2005

didnt hatton win FIghter of the year in 05 or 06 did Naz ever win that


People often forget that Hamed took the Robinson fight on short notice, moving up in weight, and schooled the fella before knocking him out, great performance that was.

[GPater11093]

People often forget that Hamed took the Robinson fight on short notice, moving up in weight, and schooled the fella before knocking him out, great performance that was.

yeh that was agreat night for Naz

nut he dominated 2 weight classes Hatton only dominated 1 but he dominated it alot better than Naz

[Club Fighter]

Dunno, all I know is I couldn't wait to see the limey prick get starched but, alas, he didn't even possess the heart to continue fighting after he tasted the agony of defeat. A true pseudo-champion and just an overall scumbag of a person to boot, imo. I've not seen anything that detestable come out of Britain since Culture Club.

[mugen82]

On Hameds resume, his biggest wins would appear to be against, Tom "boom boom" Johnson, Cesar Soto, Ingle, Vasquez, Kelley, Mccullough, Bungu, Robinson and Medina, all world champs who held atleast one of the 4 main recognised titles. If not for Politics he woulda been the undisputed linear champ at featherweight, holding all four of the titles.

Against him was a lopsided loss against Barrera, think it was 3 points on two cards, and 4on the other, coulda been more had it not been for the half nelson face smash that Barrera did. Barrera at the time was seen as way past his prime, coming off 2 brutal losses to Junior Jones and a close controversial points decision loss to Erik Morales, with most respected observers liking him to be brutally stopped by Hamed, and retired. Of course what actually happend was that he went on to school Hamed, became the big cheese in the division, and untill he met Pacquiao in their first match, could have seriously been argued to be the pound for pound number one. Its a shame Hamed didnt come back,Marquez / Morales/Pacquiao/Chi/Brodie/Harrison were waiting, woulda been awesome had he fought them.

Hatton had good victories against Tszuyu, Collazo, Urango and Castillo, With guys like Tackie and luczano, Phillips and Pendleton making up other half decent names on his resume. Of course againt him is losses against higly regarded Lb for Lb number one fighters, a 10 round Shut out tko loss against Mayweather, and a possibly career ending 2nd round KO by The Pacman.

Of all the victories out of the two, Hatton has the 2 bigger names, Tszuyu and Castillo, however they were both shot by the time he fought them, and the rest don't really register as anything more than Safe bets. So Overall I'd give it to Hamed, But only just.

[evil G]

Hard to call so I am sitting on the fence.
I don't agree with the 'Tszyu was shot' comments personally.

[Diablo]

Hamed edges it for me - he dominated his world class opponents but was beaten by a true elite fighter.

Hatton - often struggled in beating world class opponents and got whooped and ko'd by the 2 elite fighters.

Castillo was shot - that has been proven
Tzsyu - its hard to say how over the hill he was

[JonOli]

Most people rank Floyd and Pac far higher than MAB in ATG terms... from what I've noticed...


Hamed had a taste of MAB while Naz was in his 20s and he called it a day quick smart. I think Hatton is getting an overly hard time for getting his arse beat by elite twice. Something Hamed opted out of doing.


I don't think there is a huge amount in it, but Hatton has the greater win.

I say Hatton, but It's quiet close though.

Some of Hattons wins may still go on to do better things...

[slapsSOgood]

A true pseudo-champion and just an overall scumbag of a person to boot, imo.

Not all arabs blew up the World Trade Centre, ya know.

Plus I wouldnt talk shit about Hamed, when you have Mayweather as your no. 1 shit talker.

[Club Fighter]

Not all arabs blew up the World Trade Centre, ya know.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I swear you Euros are under the impression that Americans are ignorant of and hate everything that is not American. You gotta stop falling back on this erroneous conclusion and just take things for what they're worth, ya limey prick.

Plus I wouldnt talk shit about Hamed, when you have Mayweather as your no. 1 shit talker.

At least he doesn't go around shootin' his mouth off, get whooped, and then run all the way back home with his tail tucked between his legs never to be heard from again like a punk bitch. How can you call yourself a true champ if you run away at the first sign of trouble and don't even possess the heart to want to avenge your loss? Absolutely shameful and he is in no way a warrior or worthy of respect. He's a fair-weather fighter who only wishes he could be a Mayweather fighter.

Ain't no shame in losing. Most of my favorites have been defeated. But as soon as they tasted defeat they would not rest until they got that man who made them suffer it in the ring again so they could turn the tides.

[Mandanda]

i go for hamed as i felt hattons record was padded out for along time then he stepped up to fight tszyu who in my opinion wasn't the same tszyu that fought judah. hamed fought many world champions or ex world champs and also with hatton i felt the collazo fight he lost so there's always a question mark over his record. hamed achieved more at world level in a short space of time he was a better fighter on the whole in my opinion aswell. hamed also defended title alot more then hatton but in all fairness it is tight but hamed just edges for me in terms of what was achieved and records he broke.

[9Ball]

Most people rank Floyd and Pac far higher than MAB in ATG terms... from what I've noticed...


Hamed had a taste of MAB while Naz was in his 20s and he called it a day quick smart. I think Hatton is getting an overly hard time for getting his arse beat by elite twice. Something Hamed opted out of doing.


I don't think there is a huge amount in it, but Hatton has the greater win.

I say Hatton, but It's quiet close though.

Some of Hattons wins may still go on to do better things...


What he said .... ^

[9Ball]

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I swear you Euros are under the impression that Americans are ignorant of and hate everything that is not American.

Errrm yup!
Couldn't have put it better myself.

[Nemesis]

Hamed as he had the better depth and also moved up a weight and became a force at the next weight instead of just a cameo like Hatton at WW

Hamed is by miles the more talented however.

Tszyu was a great win as Tszyu was past it but was still a really goof fighter and was the best at the weight bar maybe Mayweather i cant remmeber if he was still at LWW in 2005

didnt hatton win FIghter of the year in 05 or 06 did Naz ever win thatHow old are you? you seem to be a kid.

[El Cepillo]

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I swear you Euros are under the impression that Americans are ignorant of and hate everything that is not American. You gotta stop falling back on this erroneous conclusion and just take things for what they're worth, ya limey prick.



At least he doesn't go around shootin' his mouth off, get whooped, and then run all the way back home with his tail tucked between his legs never to be heard from again like a punk bitch. How can you call yourself a true champ if you run away at the first sign of trouble and don't even possess the heart to want to avenge your loss? Absolutely shameful and he is in no way a warrior or worthy of respect. He's a fair-weather fighter who only wishes he could be a Mayweather fighter.

Ain't no shame in losing. Most of my favorites have been defeated. But as soon as they tasted defeat they would not rest until they got that man who made them suffer it in the ring again so they could turn the tides.

If you're anything of a man yourself, you would accept and understand the fact that a man has the right to choose his own destiny. There is more to life than boxing, Hamed had a great career, achieved a lot, earned an insane amount of money and decided to get out of the sport with his health intact so he could raise his young children and care for his family - if that is something you choose not to 'respect', and instead describe as 'shameful' then that says more about you, than it does about Hamed.

[evil G]

...you Euros are under the impression that Americans are ignorant of and hate everything that is not American. You gotta stop falling back on this erroneous conclusion... ya limey prick.

:patsch

[GPater11093]

How old are you? you seem to be a kid.

why do you think im a kid


good guess btw im 15

[scurlaruntings]

Hamed was the best precocious talent this country has EVER produced. There is NO comparison between there careers in the slightest. As for better resume does that even need discussing? When Hamed was busy blazing a trail through domestic and European and world honours, in the same time frame Hatton was still busy defending the WBU.

[Club Fighter]

If you're anything of a man yourself, you would accept and understand the fact that a man has the right to choose his own destiny. There is more to life than boxing, Hamed had a great career, achieved a lot, earned an insane amount of money and decided to get out of the sport with his health intact so he could raise his young children and care for his family - if that is something you choose not to 'respect', and instead describe as 'shameful' then that says more about you, than it does about Hamed.

Oh, please, spare me the bullshit, dude. This is not about "health intact" and "raising the kids" and any other bullshit he'll have you believe. I heard all the bullshit. Didn't fly. Had he not taken that "L" he'd still be fighting 'til this day. He takes an "L" and alluvasudden he gets worried about "health" and "raising kids" and all that. How convenient. He "couldn't do it anymore cuz he'd be away from his family for weeks at a time." Bullshit. If he really cared that much he wouldn't have got himself sent to jail where he's away from that same family for months at a time. Call a spade a spade. This is about cowardice and a lack of fortitude. Face it, he's a quitter. When the going gets tough, he takes the fuck off. The end. And he had the nerve to say he idolized Ali years ago when he was running his mouth. :-(

P.S. Now I'm not saying he's not talented but you can't talk all that smack and then jet out like a bitch when you realize you're not gonna be able to back it up.

[toffeejack]

I think this is Hamed and quite clearly.

What a waste of talent that guy was.

[zfc]

Hamed for me by a long way,one of the hardest hitting featherweights of all time.

Hamed lost the desire to be one of the greatest when he started listening to his brothers and cast Ingle aside.When Naz was with Ingle and still had the hunger and desire Barrera wasn`t interested in the fight.

Barrera only became interested when he knew Naz wasn`t preparing for fights properly and was ready to be beaten.

[El Cepillo]

Oh, please, spare me the bullshit, dude. This is not about "health intact" and "raising the kids" and any other bullshit he'll have you believe. I heard all the bullshit. Didn't fly. Had he not taken that "L" he'd still be fighting 'til this day. He takes an "L" and alluvasudden he gets worried about "health" and "raising kids" and all that. How convenient. He "couldn't do it anymore cuz he'd be away from his family for weeks at a time." Bullshit. If he really cared that much he wouldn't have got himself sent to jail where he's away from that same family for months at a time. Call a spade a spade. This is about cowardice and a lack of fortitude. Face it, he's a quitter. When the going gets tough, he takes the fuck off. The end. And he had the nerve to say he idolized Ali years ago when he was running his mouth. :-(

P.S. Now I'm not saying he's not talented but you can't talk all that smack and then jet out like a bitch when you realize you're not gonna be able to back it up.

I don't disagree that this is the popular opinion.

Here is another perspective:

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[riggers]

People often forget that Hamed took the Robinson fight on short notice, moving up in weight, and schooled the fella before knocking him out, great performance that was.

Short notice ? He should have called me i was aware it was happening for months.

[El Cepillo]

Short notice ? He should have called me i was aware it was happening for months.


I may have been mistaken that this fight took place at short notice. My sincere apologies.

[TheUzi]

I don't disagree that this is the popular opinion.

Here is another perspective:

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Quite enjoyed that read

[El Cepillo]

Quite enjoyed that read

Aye, it's not bad, apart from the shocking over-use of these ; and this ,

:lol::patsch

[THE KNUCKLE]

HATTON WAS 2 FIRED UP FOR HIS 2 LOSSES AND DONT FORGET WHO THE LOSSES WERE AGAINST,MAYWEATHER WILL GO DOWN AS PROBABLY THE BEST BOXER IN HISTORY IF HE WHIPS PACMAN ,BUT THA MAN IS ON FIRE JUST NOW AND ITS CLOSE 2 CALL BECAUSE FLOYDS BEEN OUT SO LONG..SO MUCH 4 A GOOD BIG UN,BEATS A GOOD LITTLE UN:good