Impressed by Povetkin

[Mrboogie23]

I've been a supporter of his for awhile now. I've only seen fights on the internet. I've never seen him live but one thing that does impress me about him is his balance and footwork.

The guy throws alot of punches and his feet are always in the right place and he seems like he's always got his center of gravity in the right place.

Anyone else notice that?

[Amsterdam]

Yes, but he has to improve his defence.

[Mrboogie23]

Yes, but he has to improve his defence.


I think he's just got to get some head and torso movement going.

[Amsterdam]

I think he's just got to get some head and torso movement going.

Some effective Winky blocking in parts also.

[BoxingGuru]

Yes, but he has to improve his defence.

He'll improve his "defence" when you improve your spelling. Just kidding bro. :D

[cross_trainer]

Some effective Winky blocking in parts also.

His style reminds me a bit of Joe Louis. Have you noticed this?

[Mrboogie23]

Some effective Winky blocking in parts also.



that would be great but I wouldnt want them to get him too defensive minded. So far he appears to be a pretty damn good offensive fighter. If he starts thinking about slipping, moving, parrying, etc then it could hinder him a little.

I do think that defense is obviously a great thing, and he's young so he can definitely improve on it. He's got a great pedigree already so I think he could apply alot of it. I just wouldnt want someone trying to change him too much, at the very least he needs head and torso movement.

[Shpion]

Yes, but he has to improve his defence.

Actually in his last fight against Donald his defense was pretty good.

[Amsterdam]

that would be great but I wouldnt want them to get him too defensive minded. So far he appears to be a pretty damn good offensive fighter. If he starts thinking about slipping, moving, parrying, etc then it could hinder him a little.

I do think that defense is obviously a great thing, and he's young so he can definitely improve on it. He's got a great pedigree already so I think he could apply alot of it. I just wouldnt want someone trying to change him too much, at the very least he needs head and torso movement.

No, he's not a defensive fighter, but every top level fighter needs a good competent defence to fall back on. Some really effective timed blocking technique's similiar to how Wright, or most African fighters for that matter, certainly could help with him eating less shots.

I am going from the Mayfield fight and the Bostice fight particularly. He ate too many shots.

That's the only thing that I can really criticise, he blasted Bostice in 2 rounds and has eaten his fantastic competition alive and he looks very promising overall. Povetkin is definitley a future player in the division, but I see a powerful guy like Peter presenting style problems even down the line and Klitschko's reach may be too much.

[Amsterdam]

His style reminds me a bit of Joe Louis. Have you noticed this?

I can see some relations, but Povetkin is more of a pressure oriented guy.

[El Bombasto]

not really

[The Whaler]

At this stage? Yes.

[MagnificentMatt]

I've been a supporter of his for awhile now. I've only seen fights on the internet. I've never seen him live but one thing that does impress me about him is his balance and footwork.

The guy throws alot of punches and his feet are always in the right place and he seems like he's always got his center of gravity in the right place.

Anyone else notice that?

I dont know, he seems kind of robotic to me, and way to robotic to have a chance against Wlad..

[Mrboogie23]

I dont know, he seems kind of robotic to me, and way to robotic to have a chance against Wlad..



:lol:


Didnt people say the EXACT same thing about the Klitschkos.

[Mrboogie23]

If Wlad's not robotic, I dunno what is. :yep


you beat me to it! :lol:

[MagnificentMatt]

:lol:


Didnt people say the EXACT same thing about the Klitschkos.

That has nothing to do with it...I still think Wlads style is robotic(hes 6'6, he cant be too fluid, but i think he is pretty fluid for his size), from his fighting to his interviews (hehe)...Its just that Wlad will pick apart a robotic opponenet IMO.

[Mrboogie23]

That has nothing to do with it...I still think Wlads style is robotic(hes 6'6, he cant be too fluid, but i think he is pretty fluid for his size), from his fighting to his interviews (hehe)...Its just that Wlad will pick apart a robotic opponenet IMO.


I agree, right now Wlad beats Povetkin. In the future, I'm not so sure, I'm not trying to overrate him. I dont think he's ready, but if he keeps improving and beating top flight comp he can pose a threat.

He has good footwork and has pretty good offensive arsenal himself. I think he's also got enough power to hurt Wladimir. He can pressure well etc.

Again, let me reiterate, I'm not starting a hype train, this thread was just to point out some positive things I've seen in this young fighter.

[MagnificentMatt]

I agree, right now Wlad beats Povetkin. In the future, I'm not so sure, I'm not trying to overrate him. I dont think he's ready, but if he keeps improving and beating top flight comp he can pose a threat.

He has good footwork and has pretty good offensive arsenal himself. I think he's also got enough power to hurt Wladimir. He can pressure well etc.

Again, let me reiterate, I'm not starting a hype train, this thread was just to point out some positive things I've seen in this young fighter.
I agree, but the things is, IF he keeps improving, the same question for every young fighter, or better yet, every fighter.

I have no hate for the man, was just saying what i think his biggest flaws are and his chances against the top dog in the division.

[hopkinsfan07]

hes 27 he aint a young fighter no more he needs to improve alot in 2 years to be a good champ

[WhataRock]

Technically very sound but far from sold on him yet.

[The Kurgan]

His style reminds me a bit of Joe Louis. Have you noticed this?

I get more of a Holyfield vibe right now, but I think in time he'll become more akin to Joe Louis. Louis created a very good model to beat big heavyweights, and that's what Povetkin needs to focus on.

[Odo]

No, he's not a defensive fighter, but every top level fighter needs a good competent defence to fall back on. Some really effective timed blocking technique's similiar to how Wright, or most African fighters for that matter, certainly could help with him eating less shots.

I am going from the Mayfield fight and the Bostice fight particularly. He ate too many shots.

That's the only thing that I can really criticise, he blasted Bostice in 2 rounds and has eaten his fantastic competition alive and he looks very promising overall. Povetkin is definitley a future player in the division, but I see a powerful guy like Peter presenting style problems even down the line and Klitschko's reach may be too much.

Peter's style presenting problems to Povetkin?
Hm!
I disagree with you,amsterdam!
Guys like Peter,Brooks,Estrada,Vidoz,Koeber,and so on were not even worth a fig to be mentioned with Povetkin at the same sentence back then at the amateurs which were totally dominated by the Russian superstar.
Whenever he participated in an international tournament he was the one who was called victor after the end of that tournament.
Guys like Peter or Brooks lived in Povetkin's huge shadow knowing that they couldnt win a tournament in which Povetkin took part.
Of course almost every heavy weight has a puncher's chance,but apart from that I cant really imagine that a slow and very predictable Sam Peter would pose any problems to Povetkin.
Quite the opposite Povetkin would probably teach him and these guys a lesson in boxing as he did at the amateurs.

[Grabonator]

Peter's style presenting problems to Povetkin?
Hm!
I disagree with you,amsterdam!
Guys like Peter,Brooks,Estrada,Vidoz,Koeber,and so on were not even worth a fig to be mentioned with Povetkin at the same sentence back then at the amateurs which were totally dominated by the Russian superstar.
Whenever he participated in an international tournament he was the one who was called victor after the end of that tournament.
Guys like Peter or Brooks lived in Povetkin's huge shadow knowing that they couldnt win a tournament in which Povetkin took part.
Of course almost every heavy weight has a puncher's chance,but apart from that I cant really imagine that a slow and very predictable Sam Peter would pose any problems to Povetkin.
Quite the opposite Povetkin would probably teach him and these guys a lesson in boxing as he did at the amateurs.

In a pro fight, someone like Peter has MUCH better chance to beat Povetkin as in an amateur fight.

[1-Ton]

I´m very impressed by Povetkin but right now and even or in one two years i can´t see him beating Wlad. But he will be the next dominator of the division, if great i don´t know. And i´m looking forward to a trilogy with Solis.

Ah yes, as long as we're talking about the "future" of the HW division, Povetkin v Solis is something to really look forward to. Povetkin has no chance against Wlad right now. He simply does not have the range.

[Guru_Too_You]

His style reminds me a bit of Joe Louis. Have you noticed this?

Yes, which is why I'm such a supporter. His fundamentals are almost flawless with his footwork and every punch.

[huki]

Yes, which is why I'm such a supporter. His fundamentals are almost flawless with his footwork and every punch.
Other than their styles of punching and ways of moving around, I think the biggest similarity between Louis and Povetkin is how relaxed they look in the ring all the time. The most impressive thing about Povetkin to me is how calm he always looks and how focused he is. It's not rare to see prospects have a ton of confidence, but it's rare to see them look so comfortable when taking big steps up. Being relaxed is one of the most important things about being a great fighter at the top level and many people don't look at this aspect of boxing, especially in prospects.

[The Kurgan]

Other than their styles of punching and ways of moving around, I think the biggest similarity between Louis and Povetkin is how relaxed they look in the ring all the time. The most impressive thing about Povetkin to me is how calm he always looks and how focused he is. It's not rare to see prospects have a ton of confidence, but it's rare to see them look so comfortable when taking big steps up. Being relaxed is one of the most important things about being a great fighter at the top level and many people don't look at this aspect of boxing, especially in prospects.

He's the anti-Audley Harrison, who had a fit of panic every time his opponent threw a jab.

Povetkin will find that being relaxed will make him a much more durable boxer. Ask James Toney, whose stamina and chin I think depend a lot on being so relaxed.

[Odo]

In a pro fight, someone like Peter has MUCH better chance to beat Povetkin as in an amateur fight.


I dont think so.
Sam Peter couldnt hold a candle to Povetkin at the amateurs.Neither will he be able to beat him at the pros.
A ko is a ko-whether you knock somebody out at the pros or the amateurs the result is the same.
Just ridiculous to claim that at the pros everything is different.
Head gear or not-the amateurs can punch,too.

[Chief_Second]

He'll improve his "defence" when you improve your spelling. Just kidding bro. :D

lol :rofl :rofl :rofl us english use the correct language with correct spellings!!!!! :deal

[geppy]

Povetkin will likely bust up Byrd , then stop him in the mid to late rounds.