Which (current) boxers would you qualify as "gate keepers" ?

[boxingcar]

You know the type i'm talking about...
good , but not good enough to become a champ.
it could be an ex-champ , or a "has been"...ex-contender...etc...

[Fab2333]

zab
mike tyson

off the top of my head

[Marc]

lovemore n'dou, cosme rivera, monte barrett, dominic guinn

[nulty]

zab
mike tyson

off the top of my head

Tyson? You cannot be serious.

[Marnoff]

zab
mike tyson

off the top of my head

How do you figure Tyson is a gatekeeper, when he gives up in his fights now? That's not gatekeeper status. He is done as a fighter.

[cuchulain]

Holyfield.

Briggs

Ruiz

McCline

Tua

Griffin

Miranda

Vargas

Mayorga

Gatti (If he's still fighting)

[thesandman]

Holyfield.

Briggs

Ruiz

McCline

Tua

Griffin

Miranda

Vargas

Mayorga

Gatti (If he's still fighting)

Out of those guys, IMO only McCline is a real gatekeeper. He's the guy contenders and comebackers fight to see if they can make the next level or not.

those other guys don't fight up and comers - even though they are probably gatekeeper standard.

Someone like Guinn is/was a good pick. Monte Barrett is probably in there now too.

[Toopretty]

zab/Margarito at 147, Ndou/Corley/Castillo at 140 Tarver at 175, Roy too..lol Casamayor(only cause he is old now)/Freitas/Chavez 135. I mean you can go on and on...

[DanePugilist]

HW: Chris Byrd, John Ruiz.
CW: Jirov
LHW: RJJ
SMW: Markus Beyer, Bika
MW: Ouma, Miranda
LMW: Baldomir, Clottey(maybe).
WW: Zab Judah
LWW: Castillo.
LW: Acelino, Jesus Chavez
SFW: MAB
FW: Hector Velazquez
SBW: Veeraphol Sahaprom

dont know below this...

[Toopretty]

I mean every heavyweight other then Wlad or Peter is pretty much a gatekeeper. lol...the others dont get any attention.

[Toopretty]

HW: Chris Byrd, John Ruiz.
CW: Jirov
LHW: RJJ
SMW: Markus Beyer, Bika
MW: Ouma, Miranda
LMW: Baldomir, Clottey(maybe).
WW: Zab Judah
LWW: Castillo.
LW: Acelino, Jesus Chavez
SFW: MAB
FW: Hector Velazquez
SBW: Veeraphol Sahaprom

dont know below this...

haha we have similiar lists..:good

[Marc]

let me add demarcus corley. lost to zab, floyd, cotto.

the ultimate gatekeeper. if you get past him you got promise.

[thesandman]

let me add demarcus corley. lost to zab, floyd, cotto.

the ultimate gatekeeper. if you get past him you got promise.

A bit like Sharmba Mitchell right now - if he's still active?

[istmeno]

let me add demarcus corley. lost to zab, floyd, cotto.

the ultimate gatekeeper. if you get past him you got promise.

good call. he is this generation of fighters oba carr. talented fighter just not good enough to get to the next level.

[El Bombasto]

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[Marc]

good call. he is this generation of fighters oba carr. talented fighter just not good enough to get to the next level.

corley was no pushover either. he almost knocked floyd and cotto's heads off.

wot about jesse james leija, when he was still active.

[Toopretty]

Gatekeepers fighting other gatekeepers are the best fights to me..you never know. There is no shame on being a gatekeeper. You get good pay and usually dont get knocked out regularly like tomato cans...All boxers deserve respect. Except those that take dives and dont try to win.

[Marnoff]

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So which one?

[Marnoff]

James Toney at Heavyweight.

[DanePugilist]

haha we have similiar lists..:goodThen I can't be far off the truth then:lol: :lol: :good

[cuchulain]

Out of those guys, IMO only McCline is a real gatekeeper. He's the guy contenders and comebackers fight to see if they can make the next level or not.

those other guys don't fight up and comers - even though they are probably gatekeeper standard.

.

True.

But they're still gatekeepers.

Like in sixth sense, they just don't know that their careers are dead and that they've become gatekeepers.

[MagnificentMatt]

You know the type i'm talking about...
good , but not good enough to become a champ.
it could be an ex-champ , or a "has been"...ex-contender...etc...

1st thing thta comes to mind is Zab..

[The Whaler]

Margarito.

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Man, Stallone has some squat legs. He looks almost like some muscular dwarf.

[CASH_718]

HW: Chris Byrd, John Ruiz.
CW: Jirov
LHW: RJJ
SMW: Markus Beyer, Bika
MW: Ouma, Miranda
LMW: Baldomir, Clottey(maybe).
WW: Zab Judah
LWW: Castillo.
LW: Acelino, Jesus Chavez
SFW: MAB
FW: Hector Velazquez
SBW: Veeraphol Sahaprom

dont know below this...First of all Clottly in a Welterweight and he's no gate keeper.

[DanePugilist]

First of all Clottly in a Welterweight and he's no gate keeper.Hence the maybe... and sorry for the wrong weight class...

[Amsterdam]

First of all Clottly in a Welterweight and he's no gate keeper.

He surely isn't much to be impressed about. I could even see him losing to certain gate keepers.

[CASH_718]

He surely isn't much to be impressed about. I could even see him losing to certain gate keepers.Well your a moron so good thing no one takes what you say seriously.:good

[thesandman]

True.

But they're still gatekeepers.

Like in sixth sense, they just don't know that their careers are dead and that they've become gatekeepers.

:rofl:rofl

Fair call there!!!

[Amsterdam]

Well your a moron so good thing no one takes what you say seriously.:good

Then why am I often spot on correct?:think

[DanePugilist]

Well your a moron so good thing no one takes what you say seriously.:goodNamecalling always works to make a point - well done.

[CASH_718]

Then why am I often spot on correct?:thinkWhen is this?

[DanePugilist]

Then why am I often spot on correct?:thinkBecause being a moron is an elevated state of mind compared to alot of other posters.

[CASH_718]

Namecalling always works to make a point - well done.:thumbsup

[Marc]

i forgot to mention rocky juarez.

out of all the superfeatherweight elite, he's fought mab and soto. marquez is fighting him next... i dont think he will fight pacquiao but i do see a fight with guzman happening down the line.

[PATSYS]

You know the type i'm talking about...
good , but not good enough to become a champ.
it could be an ex-champ , or a "has been"...ex-contender...etc...

Vargas
Larios
Corley
Glen Johnson

[Marc]

Vargas
Larios
Corley
Glen Johnson

vargas... nada. somebody already said he wasnt fighting much anyways.

why is glen johnson on your list. he is actually one of the best at LHW right now.

[PATSYS]

vargas... nada. somebody already said he wasnt fighting much anyways.

why is glen johnson on your list. he is actually one of the best at LHW right now.

Because the LHW is a shallow division.

[myk]

Juarez and Judah

[Fab2333]

How do you figure Tyson is a gatekeeper, when he gives up in his fights now? That's not gatekeeper status. He is done as a fighter.

Man listen, If tyson got back in shape, and was training hard and he said he wanted to fight a big name and the fight happened just b/c he is Tyson seats will b filled trust

[Alo2006]

A bit like Sharmba Mitchell right now - if he's still active?

Agrees :good

[brooklyn1550]

SFW: MAB

Considering Marco Antonio Barrera just had a close fight and fought a game fight against the current 3rd P4P best fighter in the world (JMM), I wouldn't consider him a gatekeeper. In my opinion, he still beats Valero, Guzman, and Soto. I would also favor him over Chris John and Jorge Linares. MAB showed he still had excellent speed, toughness, and overall ability against Marquez which is why I still think he's top 12 P4P.

[DanePugilist]

Considering Marco Antonio Barrera just had a close fight and fought a game fight against the current 3rd P4P best fighter in the world (JMM), I wouldn't consider him a gatekeeper. In my opinion, he still beats Valero, Guzman, and Soto. I would also favor him over Chris John and Jorge Linares. MAB showed he still had excellent speed, toughness, and overall ability against Marquez which is why I still think he's top 12 P4P.Maybe I fail to understand gatekeeper probably. As I view it, its a fighter that will grant the "new" boxer alot of recognition to take on the top guy(s) of the division. As you can see, none of my chosen fighters are totally shot - they still hold alot of value - not just in name, but also in ability.

As I see it, (and I love MAB)MAB is not gonna be a WC again(as requested by OP), he is a top guy, but he is getting weaker by each match. I tried to pick good gatekeepers.

[thesandman]

I would view a gatekeeper as a guy that REGULARLY fights up and comers, as a test to see if they can make the next level - not just once or twice.

Like a Guinn, Corley, Mitchell (now), etc. Larry Donald might be another good example.

Guys like MAB aren't really IMO, as once they fade, they'll probably only fight other faded names, or 1 or 2 fights. I mean guys that fight a lot.

But that's just my interpretation.

[DanePugilist]

I would view a gatekeeper as a guy that REGULARLY fights up and comers, as a test to see if they can make the next level - not just once or twice.

Like a Guinn, Corley, Mitchell (now), etc. Larry Donald might be another good example.

Guys like MAB aren't really IMO, as once they fade, they'll probably only fight other faded names, or 1 or 2 fights. I mean guys that fight a lot.

But that's just my interpretation.You could be right. Maybe I aim too high, when picking gatekeepers.

[brooklyn1550]

Maybe I fail to understand gatekeeper probably. As I view it, its a fighter that will grant the "new" boxer alot of recognition to take on the top guy(s) of the division. As you can see, none of my chosen fighters are totally shot - they still hold alot of value - not just in name, but also in ability.

As I see it, (and I love MAB)MAB is not gonna be a WC again(as requested by OP), he is a top guy, but he is getting weaker by each match. I tried to pick good gatekeepers.

I see your points (all good ones) - it all depends on each individual's definition or criteria of a gatekeeper:good

[boxingcar]

1st thing thta comes to mind is Zab..
that's also the one i was thinking about...he's very talented but there's just something missing...

[paulfv]

Zab Judah is now a gatekeeper, at least as long as he fights at 147.

[Odo]

You know the type i'm talking about...
good , but not good enough to become a champ.
it could be an ex-champ , or a "has been"...ex-contender...etc...


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