View Full Version : Enzo Mac dumps Enzo C as trainer
Bodysnatcher
05-07-2009, 02:03 PM
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kosaros
05-07-2009, 02:05 PM
good move by enzo at this stage in his career.
nulty
05-07-2009, 02:10 PM
According to the scene of boxing.
Frank ****** says Enzo could appear on Khan vs Kotelnik undercard.
Can't imagine the Calzaghes will be too chuffed to see Enzo follow Cleverley into Frank's arms.
Slightly surprised though, given Joe and Enzo's seeimngly close relationship.
Could be that Enzo Sr is winding down his involvement with his stable of fighters?
Perhaps, but given the way Frank has been making hell for anyone involved with the Calzaghes I can't blame Cleverly or Enzo.
Is it also perhaps the case that getting to train with Joe and learning from him was more of an attraction than training with a failed musician? We'll never really now how involved Joe was with training the other fighters in the stable (I'm guessing a lot)
djoc175
05-07-2009, 02:45 PM
:happythis can only be a good thing for Maccarinelli
slip&counter
05-07-2009, 02:57 PM
who gives a f*ck
enzo mac's done!
onourway
05-07-2009, 03:01 PM
Lets face it, Enzo Calzaghe is nothing without Joe.
If Enzo wants to make anything of himself as a trainer, he needs to relocate to a place where he can get his fighters good sparring.
punchdrunkgench
05-07-2009, 03:03 PM
i d be surprised if mac has much to do with ****** considering he has allegdely wound up sports network apparently to knock joe out of 2mil
if someone knocked my bast mate for 2mil i would hardly be running around for him
cityofgod
05-07-2009, 03:06 PM
Best mate?
"Dont blame my dad for your loss!!" was Joe's responce after he lost to Ola.
Some mate...........
beecho1988
05-07-2009, 03:09 PM
Enzo Calzaghe is a shit coach
punchdrunkgench
05-07-2009, 03:10 PM
Best mate?
"Dont blame my dad for your loss!!" was Joe's responce after he lost to Ola.
Some mate...........
ok they may not be best mates but as i understand it they are mates and to be honest joe was right it werent his old mans fault enzo fought like a twat
brown bomber
05-07-2009, 03:27 PM
I'm shocked why would he live trainer of the year?
debaser
05-07-2009, 04:55 PM
Who's the new guy? Never heard of him. Best of luck to Enzo but I think it's a bad move for him. He leaves just as Joe is getting more involved in training fighters and Calzaghe Promotions gathers momentum.
****** looked smug in the press conference, prick. Sure he's power wanking right now over the hold he has on fighters like Enzo Mac. He doesn't give a fuck about his career it's just ego and childish bickering coz he lost the case.
brown bomber
05-07-2009, 04:59 PM
Who's the new guy? Never heard of him. Best of luck to Enzo but I think it's a bad move for him. He leaves just as Joe is getting more involved in training fighters and Calzaghe Promotions gathers momentum.
****** looked smug in the press conference, prick. Sure he's power wanking right now over the hold he has on fighters like Enzo Mac. He doesn't give a fuck about his career it's just ego and childish bickering coz he lost the case.Really? Joe will make a brilliant trainer just like his dad. :happy
JIM KELLY
05-07-2009, 05:00 PM
ever since the ****** /joe cal rift , i was waiting for this, sad but true.
El Cepillo
05-07-2009, 05:02 PM
Doesn't matter who trains him, Enzo will never be anything more than a 'c' class fighter.
debaser
05-07-2009, 05:04 PM
Really? Joe will make a brilliant trainer just like his dad. :happy
They're trying to get a format where they gather a stable of talented Welsh fighters who they can promote primarily on the same bill, to begin with. Theres definitely enough talented fighters about in Wales so good luck to them!
nulty
05-07-2009, 05:04 PM
Really? Joe will make a brilliant trainer just like his dad. :happy
Yes he will make a brilliant trainer. Just as he made his dad a brilliant trainer.
Joes comment about not blaming his dad was because Enzo Mac trained like a wanker, surely after years being helped by Joe and his he should have known better, even if he was getting less one to one time, the stupid overrated fat Swansea "pretty boy"
brown bomber
05-07-2009, 05:06 PM
Imagine dumping a trainer who could enable him to do this?
mhhlW2FX6Is
brown bomber
05-07-2009, 05:08 PM
Yes he will make a brilliant trainer. Just as he made his dad a brilliant trainer.
Joes comment about not blaming his dad was because Enzo Mac trained like a wanker, surely after years being helped by Joe and his he should have known better, even if he was getting less one to one time, the stupid overrated fat Swansea "pretty boy":huhGavin Rees? Bradley Pryce? Joe Calzaghe? Enzo M? Can't be all luck?
nulty
05-07-2009, 05:11 PM
Imagine dumping a trainer who could enable him to do this?
mhhlW2FX6Is
Speed is a natural gift, it can be improved with training but you need the basics to start with (ie if you hive me flour, eggs and sugar I can bake a cake, but to make a top notch cake I need to learn how to do it). Also you need the right attitude to training, lifting casks (something thousands of people do in their day to work) shows a serious lack of intelligence.
Yes I know you're trolling.
nulty
05-07-2009, 05:16 PM
:huhGavin Rees? Bradley Pryce? Joe Calzaghe? Enzo M? Can't be all luck?
Gavin who? The short guy who beat an overrated uninterested champion who only got the belt beacuse ****** wanted at least lww title to try and piss off Hatton?
Enzo Mac, the guy who lost his first against Hobson (I was ringside trust me he lost) and got starched by Swaby early in his career but then was protected as FW saw £££ in him but then got destroyed by Haye and Ola.
Joe Calzaghe is freak of nature, I can't imagine what a beast he would have been with a true top class trainer.
:rofl:rofl:rofl
scurlaruntings
05-07-2009, 05:20 PM
:huhGavin Rees? Bradley Pryce? Joe Calzaghe? Enzo M? Can't be all luck?Ree's is NOT world class. Pryce is a journeyman who has been running on fumes for years now. Enzo is not up there with the best crusiers in the world and although he has a marvelous attitude and loves this game he needs a trainer who can take him places not a deliquent Sardinian with a god complex. Enzo C's was nothing more than great fortune. His stable was massively exposed the following year when they all lost there belts. One fighter made him and that was his son. Other than that he was VERY VERY average. Id go so far as to say Billy Graham was a better trainer than that idiot.
Anyway great move by Enzo Mac. He's got the right attitude.
punchdrunkgench
05-07-2009, 06:13 PM
[quote=scurlaruntings;3991370]Ree's is NOT world class. Pryce is a journeyman who has been running on fumes for years now. Enzo is not up there with the best crusiers
you made my point for me none of the above are true world class fighters but enzo maximised there abilities to go as far and if not a little further than there skill level would have otherwise taken them, anyone can win fights when they have a calzaghe/ hatton etc in the stable but getting the best out of fighters like pryce who not only are limited skill wise but undoubtly have issues away from the ring is a testament to there trainer i belive.
brown bomber
05-08-2009, 04:29 AM
you made my point for me none of the above are true world class fighters but enzo maximised there abilities to go as far and if not a little further than there skill level would have otherwise taken them, anyone can win fights when they have a calzaghe/ hatton etc in the stable but getting the best out of fighters like pryce who not only are limited skill wise but undoubtly have issues away from the ring is a testament to there trainer i belive.Exactly you really know your stuff friend I mean who cares of they haven't improved the standard of their boxing in their entire careers? Who cares if their supposedly out on the lash every weekend? Who cares if they commited tactical boxing suicide in their last fights (Pryce, Rees and Enzo)? Who cares if all of them have shown a propensity to tire horrendously down the stretch? Who cares if they have no musclular definition which points to a severe problem with their diets? Who cares if they only won vacant titles that they wouldn't have fought for if they weren't sports network fighters? They were amazing champions. That means their trainer must have been equally amazing. Surely. And he likes jazz music.:deal
dwilson
05-08-2009, 04:44 AM
Good luck to Macca. Hopefully he gets some decent training and sparring and another push. No reason why the big Welsh guy can not get another crack at the cruiserweight title. The division is piss awful and Ola will be destroyed by Troy Ross.
achillesthegreat
05-08-2009, 07:55 AM
The stable must have fallen apart if Enzo didn't get any sparring. Enzo would have been sparring Ryce and Calzaghe back in the day. Now Enzo needs to go to a gym that has life again.
DamonD
05-08-2009, 08:33 AM
To be blunt, this should've happened after the Braithwaite fight.
Some accuse Enzo Mac of not developing but that's unfair, he was and he was on a good upwards path but that just seemed to stagnate. He was learning to balance his boxing with his brawling but that was allowed to fade.
The concern now is that it may be too late. He's had two shattering knockout losses since then.
DINAMITA
05-08-2009, 08:59 AM
According to the scene of boxing.
Frank ****** says Enzo could appear on Khan vs Kotelnik undercard.
Can't imagine the Calzaghes will be too chuffed to see Enzo follow Cleverley into Frank's arms.
Slightly surprised though, given Joe and Enzo's seemingly close relationship.
Could be that Enzo Sr is winding down his involvement with his stable of fighters?
Maccarinelli probably realizes he needs to take action and drop the arrogant pretender/liar and find a real coach if he is going to salvage his career.
brown bomber
05-08-2009, 09:24 AM
Maccarinelli probably realizes he needs to take action and drop the arrogant pretender/liar and find a real coach if he is going to salvage his career.Blasphemy.:twisted:
scurlaruntings
05-08-2009, 11:11 AM
The stable must have fallen apart if Enzo didn't get any sparring. Enzo would have been sparring Ryce and Calzaghe back in the day. Now Enzo needs to go to a gym that has life again.Enzo C had Mac in a basement lifting beer kegs. Enzo's sparring partner were guys in HIS OWN GYM. Like Pryce!?! Bradley Pryce was Macs sparrign partner? Its a small wonder Joe achieved what he did. Its my opinion he could have achieved so much more with a world class trainer. Enzo C is a joke.
This reminds me of players like Beckham and Ruud leaving United. There is only one way to go - and thats down.
Grant1
05-08-2009, 12:03 PM
Enzo C had Mac in a basement lifting beer kegs. Enzo's sparring partner were guys in HIS OWN GYM. Like Pryce!?! Bradley Pryce was Macs sparrign partner? Its a small wonder Joe achieved what he did. Its my opinion he could have achieved so much more with a world class trainer. Enzo C is a joke.
I don't know what the fuck went on before the Ola fight but it wasn't Enzo C who had Mac lifting beer barrells.
He was doing that above a nightclub about 2 miles from his home and about 50 miles away from Enzo C in Newbridge.
It's a strange one :huh
garymcfall
05-08-2009, 03:31 PM
This reminds me of players like Beckham and Ruud leaving United. There is only one way to go - and thats down.
Ruud went to Real Madrid....hardly a step down.
Enzo can get whoever he wants to train him . He has a dodgy chin and a limited skill set, he cant live with anyone who is geniunely world class.
djoc175
05-08-2009, 03:35 PM
Ruud went to Real Madrid....hardly a step down.
Enzo can get whoever he wants to train him . He has a dodgy chin and a limited skill set, he cant live with anyone who is geniunely world class.
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Karl Ince will be his trainer and he may be fighting an unbeaten fighter from Russia with a 17(12)-0 record on the Kotelnik/Khan undercard.Risky from FW especially after the Prescott fight
itrymariti
05-08-2009, 03:38 PM
What a plonker. :patsch
brown bomber
05-08-2009, 04:30 PM
Karl Ince will be his trainer and he may be fighting an unbeaten fighter from Russia with a 17(12)-0 record on the Kotelnik/Khan undercard.Risky from FW especially after the Prescott fight A russian? Your kidding me. As for the trainer wow! That is all I can say at this time.
Grievesy
05-08-2009, 04:40 PM
Good idea leaving Enzo but who the fuck is the guy he has gone to? The idea is to get a trainer that you know is decent and some decent sparring partners.
I suppose I doesn't matter too much as with his chin he isn't going to make it to the top level.
djoc175
05-08-2009, 04:41 PM
A russian? Your kidding me. As for the trainer wow! That is all I can say at this time.
The Lounge is right up your street dickhead:good:hi:
brown bomber
05-08-2009, 04:43 PM
The Lounge is right up your street dickhead:good:hi:Why whats up babes?
djoc175
05-08-2009, 04:45 PM
Good idea leaving Enzo but who the fuck is the guy he has gone to? The idea is to get a trainer that you know is decent and some decent sparring partners.
I suppose I doesn't matter too much as with his chin he isn't going to make it to the top level.
If reports are to be believed than any sparring will be an improvement on his preparation for the Afolabi fight.Sure old school training like dragging tyres and that is good as a supplement to sparring but it certainly is no substitute.
BTW,anybody know anything about this Karl Ince from Preston??
brown bomber
05-08-2009, 04:47 PM
BTW,anybody know anything about this Karl Ince from Preston??Maybe you shoould read my post again. He's from Bolton/Manchester
djoc175
05-08-2009, 04:47 PM
enzo calzaghe has been exposed as a very poor trainer!!
apart from joe! lets examine the sucsess of enzo`s fighters!!
big mac!!- ko`d!! brad pryce!-ko`d!! gavin rees!-tko`d!
ie after english born joe! welsh boxing is SHIT!!!! FACT!!!!!!
SORRY TAFFS!!
(at least your not as weak as the jocks!!!! lol!!)
I give him credit for improving Enzo Maccarinelli slightly although his record is far from impressive.Also he somehow managed to get Rees a world title.Thats an acheivement no matter how weak the opposition.That said,hes a cunt
Ruud went to Real Madrid....hardly a step down.
Enzo can get whoever he wants to train him . He has a dodgy chin and a limited skill set, he cant live with anyone who is geniunely world class.
Massive step down.
United are the World Champions, Real Madrid were frankly embarrassing in the Champions of Europe competition and are only running close for Champions of Spain because Barca were getting bored.
jc333
05-08-2009, 04:53 PM
enzo calzaghe has been exposed as a very poor trainer!!
apart from joe! lets examine the sucsess of enzo`s fighters!!
big mac!!- ko`d!! brad pryce!-ko`d!! gavin rees!-tko`d!
ie after english born joe! welsh boxing is SHIT!!!! FACT!!!!!!
SORRY TAFFS!!
(at least your not as weak as the jocks!!!! lol!!)
This went from a thinly disguised attack on Enzo C, right through to an all out anti Welsh/Scottish effort.
If you listed all of the English boxers who were sparked in their lasts fights, would the list be longer? What about as a percentage of active fighters? :patsch
brown bomber
05-08-2009, 04:58 PM
Welsh boxing is going through a bad spell.... Scottish boxing is doing ok but a little quiter then it has been. Irish boxing seems to be flying and English boxing ain't to bad neither. As for insulting everyone, whats the point. Lets just love.
doylexxx
05-08-2009, 07:33 PM
i agree with haye
e calz had enzo fight like Joe and he got destroyed for it AGAIN
rothwell
05-08-2009, 08:16 PM
Massive step down.
United are the World Champions, Real Madrid were frankly embarrassing in the Champions of Europe competition and are only running close for Champions of Spain because Barca were getting bored.
Typical United fan bollocks.
When van Nistelrooy went to Madrid, United had finished 2nd in the League after only picking up the Carling Cup.
Madrid had won La Liga and were flying high. They've also won the European Cup more times than any other club.
By your rationale moving to Madrid would be a step up?
Face it, United and Madrid are both huge clubs - it was a sideways step.
Now... back to the boxing.
NO MAS
05-08-2009, 08:16 PM
Not sparring before his last fight... that is a disgraceful attitude to the paying fans to have to listen too.........he should have not boxed full stop.:patsch:patsch
Who is Enzo gonna train with? Anthony Farnell's would be a great camp to move too...:good:good
djoc175
05-08-2009, 09:08 PM
Not sparring before his last fight... that is a disgraceful attitude to the paying fans to have to listen too.........he should have not boxed full stop.:patsch:patsch
Who is Enzo gonna train with? Anthony Farnell's would be a great camp to move too...:good:good
link on the previous page about his next step:good
NO MAS
05-08-2009, 09:20 PM
link on the previous page about his next step:good
Nice one..it is a step in the right direction... he was going backwards staying there.... would have liked to have seen him with Farnell though.. lots of sparring not to far for him and a great stable. at Arnie's...:bbb
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