***ESB's Official 2009 MMA Prediction League: Hosts, Scores & Tallies***

[sugarngold]

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This thread will serve to host the weekly and monthly scores for everyone participating in the MMA Prediction League.

Everyone is free to participate. Each week or month - the host will start a new thread with the latest event cards. Once the new MMA Prediction thread is posted - you are free to list your choices for winners on that thread. After the event is complete, the weekly host will tally the scores and post them back in this thread. The host will post the current event tallies for everyone that participated - as well as posting the ongoing tallies for the calendar year 2009. It is the host's responsibility to post the score for the individual event as well as adding to the total so that we can track it easily through the rest of the year.

The scoring breaks down as follows:

4 points for picking winner.
3 points for picking the round (and winner - obviously).
3 points for picking UD/SD, KO/TKO or submission.

For a possible total of 10 points.
+3 points bonus for naming the exact submission used to secure the victory.

Here are some typical submissions for anyone that is not familiar with Jiujutsu - but would like a chance to earn bonus points.

Basics:

armbar (see Frank Mir vs Tim Sylvia or UFC 2 Royce Gracie vs Jason Delucia - standard arm lock submission)

straight armlock (see Pride 10 Sakuraba vs Renzo Gracie. Usually applied against an opponent that has grabbed one from behind. Figure four grab is applied to one arm - then spun out to the side to lock the arm straight to break the arm at the elbow.)

guillotine choke (Pride 20 Ken Shamrock vs Don Frye 1 - this is the standard choke with an opponent in the front with his head down)

rear naked choke (BJ Penn vs Matt Hughes 1 - this is the standard choke from behind utlitzing both arms around an opponent's neck)

bare handed choke (see Affliction 1 Fedor choking T. Syliva or Anderson Silva vs Henderson)

triangle choke (UFC 4 Royce Gracie vs Dan Severn standard choke using the legs)

shoulder lock/kimura (see Fedor vs Randleman - this armlock was named after the Japanese fighter Kimura when he broke Helio Gracie's arm with this lock)

Americana/figure four armlock/key lock (It's used so often I can't even think of a standout example because it's the most basic armlock from the cross body position)


kneebar (Frank Mir vs Brock Lesnar or UFC 8 Ken Shamrock vs Kimo 1)

straight ankle lock (usually just referred to as "ankle lock")(see Andre Arlovski vs Tim Sylvia 1)

heel hook ankle lock (most dangerous twisting ankle lock that breaks the ankle and dislocates the knee. See Ken Shamrock vs Pat Smith in UFC 1)

neck crank (standard wrestler submission pulling the head forward - although variations include twisting the head sideways. See UFC 12 Mark Coleman vs Dan Severn)

alligator roll choke (applied by using front headlock and rolling into it to tighten the choke. See Randy Couture vs Mike Van Arsdale or Nogueira vs Heath Herring 2)

clock choke/barnyard (this choke has many names. I can't remember specific fights for examples on this one yet. Maybe someone will remember and remind me. Mario Sperry vs ________ in Pride. Drawing a blank.)

intermediate/advanced submissions:

gogoplata (advanced choke using legs and arms. See Nick Diaz vs Gomi)

omoplata (advanced shoulderlock utlizing the legs. Maneuver is applied from the bottom and spinning out to the side. Will have to site specific example later. Drawing a blank for now.)
That's all there is to it. Now go find the latest thread and make your choices for this week!

If you are unfamiliar with the fighters or MMA in general - use the fight finder over at Sherdog to research each fighter's record and then scout out their fights on MMA-Core if you have the time.

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Have fun with it. And remember, Gina loves you.

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Updated scores post-UFC 101 Penn vs Florian August 10:

sugarngold - 356
quebecwarrior - 338
LB3000 - 336
Grievesy - 314
LHL - 306
AJAX - 305
reckutnevets - 220
solidchin - 217
yogster740 - 131
jrow - 125
jimmie - 92
Outerdrake - 85
beebs - 50
2fastbyfar - 46
codeman99998 - 42
wholesomefolsom - 32
chimba - 29
Mazallan - 25
BewareOfDawg - 17
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
radab - 10
scurlaruntings - 10
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

[sugarngold]

I'm going to host this weekend's UFC predictions. Please post here if you are interested in hosting one week.

[sugarngold]

Here are some typical submissions for anyone that is not familiar with Jiujutsu - but would like a chance to earn bonus points

EDIT: Submissions list added to OP.

[IntentionalButt]

Here are some typical submissions for anyone that is not familiar with Jiujutsu - but would like a chance to earn bonus points.

armbar
guillotine choke
rear naked choke
bare handed choke
triangle choke
gogoplata
omoplata
shoulder lock/kimura
Americana/figure four armlock
kneebar
straight ankle lock
heel hook ankle lock
neck crank


Thanks. I should know most of these given how long I've been following the sport (since UFC was illegal in most states and only available on VHS at blockbuster :lol:) but there was a pretty wide gap between those early mixed-discipline days and when I started getting back into it (circa GSP-Penn). And even still, I've never been a hardcore fan who trolls the net hungry for knowledge (like with boxing). I think this place is actually the only resource - other than actually watching WEC, EliteXC and UFC cards...and talking to random meatheads who feel the need to strike up conversations about MMA because I'm a Caucasian with a shaved scalp - that I've ever gleaned any information about the sport.

[IntentionalButt]

Q: can't something that would be ruled a TKO in boxing be considered a submission in certain situations in MMA? Like if someone taps out under fire from strikes, that's technically a sub and not a knockout, right? :huh

I seem to remember that happening at least once or twice.

[sugarngold]

Thanks. I should know most of these given how long I've been following the sport (since UFC was illegal in most states and only available on VHS at blockbuster :lol:) but there was a pretty wide gap between those early mixed-discipline days and when I started getting back into it (circa GSP-Penn). And even still, I've never been a hardcore fan who trolls the net hungry for knowledge (like with boxing). I think this place is actually the only resource - other than actually watching WEC, EliteXC and UFC cards...and talking to random meatheads who feel the need to strike up conversations about MMA because I'm a Caucasian with a shaved scalp - that I've ever gleaned any information about the sport.

No problem. Glad to help. When I get more time - I'll list some examples of these maneuvers from fights so people will become more familiar with them.

[sugarngold]

Q: can't something that would be ruled a TKO in boxing be considered a submission in certain situations in MMA? Like if someone taps out under fire from strikes, that's technically a sub and not a knockout, right? :huh

I seem to remember that happening at least once or twice.

You are correct that there have been times when a "tap out due to strikes" has been called a submission - but for our purpose those incidences will be considered TKO's. It's basically the same as turning one's back in boxing.

We're going by the literal definition for submissions in that it has to be a leverage maneuver applied to one's opponent causing a tap out or referee stoppage (as with Tim Sylvia vs Frank Mir when Sylvia refused to tap to the armbar but the ref stopped the fight and rightly so as Sylvia's arm was broken). :good

[Grievesy]

Do I post my predictions in this thread or the other one?

[sugarngold]

Do I post my predictions in this thread or the other one?

Post in the other thread, Grievsey. I'm going to use this one for the scores each month - that way everyone will know their standing through the year. :good

[LHL]

Do i add a submission to the predictions then?

[sugarngold]

Do i add a submission to the predictions then?

You can if you like - but it's not required. Predicting the proper submission will garner bonus points. The more points you accrue the more bragging rights you will have and the more you can say "STFU N00b!" :D

[sugarngold]

I updated the submissions list. If anyone has any corrections to make or further examples to offer - please feel free to do so and I'll update the list accordingly.

[bulakenyo]

I liked the vbookie version of this.

I might try joining this league.

I'll probably suck at it.

[sugarngold]

I liked the vbookie version of this.

I might try joining this league.

I'll probably suck at it.

Welcome aboard. Feel free to find the UFC 98 prediction thread and start making your choices. Use Fight Finder to research fighter's records and then scout out Youtube if you have the time.

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[Grievesy]

Youtube isn't that good for UFC fights as they get taken down.

This one is much better:

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[sugarngold]

Youtube isn't that good for UFC fights as they get taken down.

This one is much better:

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Good looking out, Grievesy. MMA Core is a good way to track down the videos. I'll add this link to the top posts.

[sugarngold]

MAKE YOUR PREDICTIONS FOR UFC 98 TONIGHT!

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[sugarngold]

UFC 98 MMA Prediction League Results

AJAX - 45
sugarngold - 40
yogster740 - 36
rekuctnevets - 30
LB3000 - 28
LHL - 25
qubecwarrior - 22
solidchin - 22
Grievesy - 16
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
chimba - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

[sugarngold]

We will need a volunteer to host the next MMA event. Please post here if you are interested.

[Grievesy]

:rofl:rofl

I got owned in that one.

[québecwarrior]

Rough start for me, well i'll be better next one

[sugarngold]

UFC 98 MMA Prediction League Results

AJAX - 45
sugarngold - 40
yogster740 - 36
rekuctnevets - 30
LB3000 - 28
LHL - 25
qubecwarrior - 22
solidchin - 22
Grievesy - 16
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
chimba - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

Let the bragging begin.

[sugarngold]

The new prediction threads are up for this weekend's Strikeforce event and WEC 41: Faber vs Brown 2.

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[sugarngold]

We are now accepting volunteers to host these events. Please post here if you would like to host this week!

[sugarngold]

WEC 41 MMA Prediction League Results:
sugarngold - 29
jimmie - 31
solidchin - 18
LHL - 46
Grievsey - 39
darkness - 26
quebecwarrior - 34
LB3000 - 47
AJAX - 25
Outerdrake - 10
chimba - 10

Strikeforce MMA Prediction League Results:
chimba - 4
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
jrow - 15
jimmie - 14
Grievsey - 7
LHL - 8
sugarngold - 38
LB3000 - 20
violent retard - 35
quebecwarrior - 14
darkness - 14
AJAX - 28

Bellator X MMA Prediction League Results:
Grievsey - 19

[sugarngold]

Standings have been updated on the first post.

MMA Prediction League Current Standings (June 8, 2009 )
sugarngold - 107
AJAX - 98
LB3000 - 95
Grievesy - 81
LHL - 79
qubecwarrior - 70
solidchin - 40
darkness - 40
yogster740 - 36
rekuctnevets - 30
chimba - 18
jrow - 15
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
Outerdrake - 10
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

[Grievesy]

HAH!! You guys sucked on the Bellator predicitions. Mugs!!!:yep

[sugarngold]

Scores for UFC 99 Predictions:

quebecwarrior - 92
sugarngold - 89
AJAX - 77
Grievesy - 71
LHL - 59
LB3000 - 56
jimmie - 47
yogster - 46
solidchin - 45
jrow - 25
chimba - 11

Updated scores post-UFC 99:

sugarngold - 195
AJAX - 175
qubecwarrior - 162
Grievesy - 152
LB3000 - 151
LHL - 138
jimmie - 92
solidchin - 85
yogster740 - 82
darkness - 40
jrow - 40
rekuctnevets - 30
chimba - 29
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
Outerdrake - 10
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

Scores and rankings updated in original post.

[québecwarrior]

im comming for your ass sugarngold!!

[sugarngold]

im comming for your ass sugarngold!!

Not literally I hope! :yep

You still have to make it past AJAX - and Grievesy is hot on your tail.

[sugarngold]

Updated scores post-Ultimate Fighter Team USA vs Team UK Finale June 20th, 2009:

AJAX - 197
sugarngold - 195
LB3000 - 187
qubecwarrior - 183
LHL - 180
Grievesy - 176
solidchin - 117
jimmie - 92
yogster740 - 82
darkness - 40
jrow - 40
rekuctnevets - 30
chimba - 29
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
Outerdrake - 10
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0


ESB's Offical MMA Prediction League Results: Ultimate Fighter USA vs UK Finale:

LHL - 42
LB3000 - 36
solidchin - 32
Grievsey - 24
AJAX - 22
quebecwarrior - 21

[IntentionalButt]

Damn, I missed a lot. :yep

[sugarngold]

There's still time to catch up. UFC 100 and Affliction Trilogy are just around the corner.

[AJAX]

Good luck gentlemen....you'll need it.

[sugarngold]

Ultimate Chaos Prediction Results:

reckcutdnevets - 38
sugarngold - 32
solidchin - 29
quebecwarrior - 29
Grievesy - 28
LHL - 25
Mazallan - 25
LB3000 - 22

Updated scores post-Ultimate Chaos June 27th, 2009:

sugarngold - 227
qubecwarrior - 212
LB3000 - 209
LHL - 205
Grievesy - 204
AJAX - 197
solidchin - 146
jimmie - 92
yogster740 - 82
rekuctnevets - 68
darkness - 40
jrow - 40
chimba - 29
Mazallan - 25
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
Outerdrake - 10
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

[sugarngold]

I'll have to update the overall scores later. Here are the rankings for the UFC 100 predictions.

MMA Prediction League: UFC 100 Rankings:

reckutnevets - 83
sugarngold - 72
Grievesy - 65
jrow - 65
boxingcar - 62
quebecwarrior - 57
LB3000 - 55
Yogster740 - 49
LHL - 48
JonesHagler - 47
AJAX - 42
Vengeance - 39
solidchin - 32
OuterDrake - 26

[LHL]

Jesus i sucked at 100

[sugarngold]

The rankings for DREAM 10 should be here - but I've been too lazy to add it up. I'll get everything caught up after UFC 101.

[sugarngold]

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DREAM 10 Scoring results:

AJAX - 37
quebecwarrior - 27
sugarngold - 24
LB3000 - 20
reckutnevets - 20
LHL - 11
Grievesy - 10

[sugarngold]

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UFC 101 Scores:

LB3000 - 52
beebs - 50
outerdrake - 49
reckutnevets - 49
2fastbyfar - 46
LHL - 42
codeman99998 - 42
quebecwarrior - 42
solidchin - 39
grievesy - 35
sugarngold - 33
wholesomefolsom - 32
AJAX - 29
jrow - 20
beware_of_dog - 17
radab - 10
scurlaruntings - 10

[sugarngold]

Updated scores post-UFC 101 Penn vs Florian August 10:

sugarngold - 356
quebecwarrior - 338
LB3000 - 336
Grievesy - 314
LHL - 306
AJAX - 305
reckutnevets - 220
solidchin - 217
yogster740 - 131
jrow - 125
jimmie - 92
Outerdrake - 85
beebs - 50
2fastbyfar - 46
codeman99998 - 42
wholesomefolsom - 32
chimba - 29
Mazallan - 25
BewareofDawg - 17
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
radab - 10
scurlaruntings - 10
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

[sugarngold]

Just a note to you guys. I have a lot of commitments coming up over the next couple months. I don't mind continuing to post the event predictions - but I won't be able to tally the scores and rankings in a timely manner for a few. If anyone wants to volunteer to help out it would be appreciated.

[sugarngold]

I posted the event for this week - but can't make any promises about tallying the scores. Still - half the fun is seeing everyone's predictions.

[rekcutnevets]

Strikeforce Cyborg vs Carano Scores

Beebs 65

rekcutnevets 63

One Punch KO 57

wholesomefolsom 46

LHL 40

LB3000 35

Grievesy 29

solidchin 29

sugarngold 29

196osh 25

[rekcutnevets]

Updated Totals

sugarngold - 385
LB3000 - 371
Grievesy - 343
quebecwarrior - 338
LHL - 346
AJAX - 305
reckutnevets - 283
solidchin - 246
yogster740 - 131
jrow - 125
beebs - 115
jimmie - 92
Outerdrake - 85
wholesomefolsom - 78
One Punch KO 57
2fastbyfar - 46
codeman99998 - 42
chimba - 29
196osh 25
Mazallan - 25
BewareofDawg - 17
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
radab - 10
scurlaruntings - 10
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

[sugarngold]

Thanks for posting the scores, bro!

[rekcutnevets]

Posted by sugarngold
Thanks for posting the scores, bro!
No problem.

[rekcutnevets]

UFC 102 Scores

LB3000 56

One Punck KO 56

AJAX 55

2FastbyFar 50

sugarngold 49

jimmie 43

rekcutnevets 40

LHL 39

Monoxide 37

wholesomefolsom 33

solidchin 23

Grievesy 22

[sugarngold]

Thanks for keeping up the good fight, sir!

[sugarngold]

Updated Totals

sugarngold - 434
LB3000 - 427
Grievesy - 365
quebecwarrior - 338
LHL - 385
AJAX - 360
reckutnevets - 313
solidchin - 269
jimmie - 135
yogster740 - 131
jrow - 125
beebs - 115
One Punch KO 113
wholesomefolsom - 111
2fastbyfar - 96
Outerdrake - 85
codeman99998 - 42
Monoxide- 37
chimba - 29
196osh 25
Mazallan - 25
BewareofDawg - 17
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
radab - 10
scurlaruntings - 10
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

[sugarngold]

LB3000 is getting serious. I need to tighten up!

[AJAX]

How long does this last till?

[sugarngold]

Til the end of the year of course! Best sharpen your predictions if you want to get back to the top because I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm really really bad. . .

[rekcutnevets]

UFC 103

AJAX 57

wholesomefolsom 56

One Punch KO 54

sugarngold 54

LB3000 50

2FastByFar 47

Monoxide 44

solidchin 43

Rattler 41

rekcutnevets 41

Grievesy 39

Beebs 36

OuterDrake 29

[rekcutnevets]

Updated Totals

sugarngold - 488
LB3000 - 477
AJAX - 417
Grievesy - 404
LHL - 385
reckutnevets - 354
quebecwarrior - 338
solidchin - 312
One Punch KO 167
wholesomefolsom - 167
beebs - 151
2fastbyfar - 143
jimmie - 135
yogster740 - 131
jrow - 125
Outerdrake - 114
Monoxide- 81
codeman99998 - 42
Rattler - 41
chimba - 29
196osh 25
Mazallan - 25
BewareofDawg - 17
BIGTIMETIMMY - 15
radab - 10
scurlaruntings - 10
beecho1988 - 4
IntentionalButt - 4
KINGLAMAFAO - 0

[sugarngold]

Thanks for handling the scoring, bro!

[sugarngold]

UFC 104 in two days!!!