View Full Version : Iggy v Holyfield: A friendly wager
1-Ton
08-29-2007, 08:40 AM
I have a bet with a buddy of mine. He believes that Ibragimov is going to stop Holyfield inside of 4 rounds. I think he is crazy. I'm not saying Holy is going to win (though I think he's got a shot), but he has never been stopped so early, and regardless of his age, I just don't think Ibragimov is going to be the first guy that scores such a KO/TKO on the warrior. So I told my buddy to put his money where his mouth is, and we now have a bet. What do you guys think? Have I made a good wager?
i see holyfield hitting iggy with that signature left hook and knocking him out cold around the 10th or 11th round.
LogDog69
08-29-2007, 09:12 AM
I think you've made a good choice. I'm not saying Holyfield is going to win but there's no way Sultan stops him in 4 rounds. Holyfield has lost a lot of stuff but not his chin or heart and even a 44 year old Holyfield has more than enough chin and heart to carry him past 4 rounds with Sultan. :good
buddynabuick
08-29-2007, 09:14 AM
I have a bet with a buddy of mine. He believes that Ibragimov is going to stop Holyfield inside of 4 rounds. I think he is crazy. I'm not saying Holy is going to win (though I think he's got a shot), but he has never been stopped so early, and regardless of his age, I just don't think Ibragimov is going to be the first guy that scores such a KO/TKO on the warrior. So I told my buddy to put his money where his mouth is, and we now have a bet. What do you guys think? Have I made a good wager?
Great bet. while i think brag will win, no way he takes holy out in 4
sues2nd
08-29-2007, 10:01 AM
Yeah, noone is stopping Evander early...just aint gonna happen.
IN FACT, I am still favoring Holyfield in this one.
Zakman
08-29-2007, 10:14 AM
i see holyfield hitting iggy with that signature left hook and knocking him out cold around the 10th or 11th round.
I actually think this is likely the general way it will go myself - Holyfield by late stoppage. However, regardless of whether you or I have over-estimated what Holyfield has left, or underrated Ibragimov - NO WAY he knocks Holyfield out in 4 or less, no way.:yep
KO byBRIGGS
08-29-2007, 10:40 AM
If anyone is getting stopped inside 4 its going to be Sultan. Evander is taking the belt in this one.
fatcity
08-29-2007, 01:19 PM
Don't know if Holy will win this but I do know there is no way he gets stopped this early,if at all.:good
Guru_Too_You
08-29-2007, 01:21 PM
I have a bet with a buddy of mine. He believes that Ibragimov is going to stop Holyfield inside of 4 rounds. I think he is crazy. I'm not saying Holy is going to win (though I think he's got a shot), but he has never been stopped so early, and regardless of his age, I just don't think Ibragimov is going to be the first guy that scores such a KO/TKO on the warrior. So I told my buddy to put his money where his mouth is, and we now have a bet. What do you guys think? Have I made a good wager?
perfect bet.
MacManJr.
08-29-2007, 04:07 PM
You can't even call that a bet. Call it a donation from him to you.
Lampley
08-29-2007, 04:09 PM
How closely does your friend follow boxing? Even if he lucks up and wins, he made a stupid bet.
nezy37
08-29-2007, 04:53 PM
Man your bet is as good as when I got one of my friends to bet Tyson KO Lewis in 5. actually yours is better
cuchulain
08-29-2007, 05:02 PM
How closely does your friend follow boxing? Even if he lucks up and wins, he made a stupid bet.
No.
If he wins, the bet starts to look smart.
Lampley
08-29-2007, 05:16 PM
No.
If he wins, the bet starts to look smart.
It will look better, but the logic behind the bet is poor, no matter the outcome. Unless this person can detect otherwise undetectable cues outside the grasp of everyone else. Which I doubt.
cuchulain
08-29-2007, 07:09 PM
It will look better, but the logic behind the bet is poor, no matter the outcome. Unless this person can detect otherwise undetectable cues outside the grasp of everyone else. Which I doubt.
A bet may look foolish before the event has happened.
If you bet on me against Mike Tyson, most would agree that was a foolish bet.
But after the event, if you have won, the bet can no longer be considered foolish.
If I pull it off against Mike somehow, then you made a smart bet.
Lampley
08-29-2007, 08:03 PM
A bet may look foolish before the event has happened.
If you bet on me against Mike Tyson, most would agree that was a foolish bet.
But after the event, if you have won, the bet can no longer be considered foolish.
If I pull it off against Mike somehow, then you made a smart bet.
A poor bet can result in a positive outcome. Like trying to chase down an inside straight in Texas Hold'em.
Unless the person in question here has access to information we don't, it's a piss poor bet, irrespective of result. Yeah, we won't be able to talk shit if if happens -- just like you can't really rag the guy who hits the bullshitty straight -- but it will do nothing but prove that low-percentage bets do at times pay off.
cuchulain
08-29-2007, 08:53 PM
A poor bet can result in a positive outcome. Like trying to chase down an inside straight in Texas Hold'em.
Unless the person in question here has access to information we don't, it's a piss poor bet, irrespective of result. Yeah, we won't be able to talk shit if if happens -- just like you can't really rag the guy who hits the bullshitty straight -- but it will do nothing but prove that low-percentage bets do at times pay off.
I think we're both saying the same thing for the most part. The difference is recognizing how the situatuion changes when you go from pre-event to post- event.
While an event may be low probability before the event, after the event it becomes a certainty, and thus was a good bet.
Not a good bet necessarily in the time leading up to the event, but a good bet the moment the event happens. You can't argue with reality and if the event has happened, then it is a certainty and thus a good bet.
Re: the bet in question: Holy gets stopped inside of four. There is AMLOST CERTAINLY the potential for this to happen.
After Tarver-Jones 1, few would have bet on Roy being KO' in four rounds (much less two) in the rematch.
I wouldn't bet on Holy being KO'd in four, but if someone did, and he was, then it WAS a good bet.
BoxingGuru
08-29-2007, 09:22 PM
Unbelievable how many people think an old shot Holyfield can beat Ibragimov. I am gonna LMAO on the day of that fight when he gets completely and utterly dominated.
box03
08-29-2007, 09:33 PM
maybe holyfield knows something we dont its not like iggys a world beater so what he beat briggs holyfield would of too that night you will see holyfield at his best on oct 13 wether it will be enough will just have to see one things for sure this will be iggys biggest test to date
1-Ton
08-29-2007, 09:57 PM
Unbelievable how many people think an old shot Holyfield can beat Ibragimov. I am gonna LMAO on the day of that fight when he gets completely and utterly dominated.
For the record; I've never said he will win. So, do you think it will be over in under 4?
Saltzy
08-29-2007, 10:12 PM
James Toney did hurt Evander in Round 2 of their fight.... just throwing that out there....
box03
08-29-2007, 10:15 PM
James Toney did hurt Evander in Round 2 of their fight.... just throwing that out there.... didnt he catch him with a hook that lifted him up a little bit
Saltzy
08-29-2007, 10:23 PM
If im not mistaken it was a right hand that did the damage, Ill check youtube again tho.
Edit: The Right Hand Im thinking of occured in the 4th round
emanuel_augustus
08-29-2007, 11:55 PM
Between 7 and 9 makes more sense. I could see Holyfield ground down and stopped by a barrage in this one.
Ibragimov is underrated and Holy is shot.
Antwuan Maxx
08-30-2007, 06:38 AM
James Toney did hurt Evander in Round 2 of their fight.... just throwing that out there....
So did Lou Savarese in Holy's last fight. I wouldn't be surprised if Sultan did stop Evander. That early though? Maybe not.
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