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snakerattle79
05-11-2009, 12:45 PM
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Win or lose, Heath Herring will never stray from a 13-year credo: entertainment first, results second.

The “Texas Crazy Horse” has never had it easy, in Pride or the UFC. He’s faced enough top-ranked fighters for three men’s careers. The difference between the two organizations, he says, is that entertainment is job security in Japan.

“It was a whole different thing,” said Herring. “The fighters were pushed more to go out there and put on a good show. The UFC’s definitely, if you don’t win – especially with the contracts they have – they’ll cut you with a loss. So I have had to change my mentality a little bit.”
Given the mismatches that continue to dot the Japanese scene, not much has changed.

“In Pride, I used to take fights on 10-day notice, one-week notice,” he continued. “And as long as you went out and put on a good show, you were fine. You’d be back next time. UFC’s a little different. And I think the drawback of that is that sometimes you get really boring fights. You have guys that are worried about winning; they’re not really worried about putting on a show. I think you’ve seen that in the last couple of events in the UFC, and that’s the double-edged sword.”

For much of the decade, the 31-year-old has held a spot on Top 10 heavyweight lists. He’s fallen short to the division’s elite, but had many high-profile wins, particularly in his early Pride days.
Whatever the outcome, he believes fighting is about the show, or more aptly, the rodeo.

Nuke
05-11-2009, 01:18 PM
Very true HH, UFC has way more boring shows. I think that about proves why sooooo many people liked Pride FC over the UFC.

sugarngold
05-11-2009, 01:29 PM
Revisionist history is being kind to Pride which isn't a bad thing - but they had their share of bad or boring fights as well. The yellow card rule was a great idea to motivate the fighters. The UFC should definitely adopt it. I don't know if the athletic commissions would allow for such a thing when you're talking about immediately taking away 10% of a fighter's purse.

scurlaruntings
05-11-2009, 01:34 PM
Revisionist history is being kind to Pride which isn't a bad thing - but they had their share of bad or boring fights as well. The yellow card rule was a great idea to motivate the fighters. The UFC should definitely adopt it. I don't know if the athletic commissions would allow for such a thing when you're talking about immediately taking away 10% of a fighter's purse.Revisionist? How many boring PRIDE fights have you seen? I dont recall any. Thank the lord for the yellow card!

sugarngold
05-11-2009, 02:04 PM
lol

I thought that might get a rise out of you, Scurla!

I generally try to forget the boring ones - but there were plenty. Usually anything with Alexander Otsuke or Akira Shoji was horrible. Shamrock vs Frye was hugging match. Belfort vs Yvel was dreadful. There were plenty of boring fights usually involving Japanese fighters that were out of their league and just trying to survive.

Grievesy
05-11-2009, 02:56 PM
Very early on in Pride, like 1-10, there were a few snoozers in there. But once they gathered their talent from around the world, like Wandy, Fedor, Rampage, Big Nog etc. their shows were almost guaranteed to be exciting.

sugarngold
05-11-2009, 02:59 PM
I loved Pride guys - so don't get me wrong. I used to watch the Japanese bootlegs before they were released in the States. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

scurlaruntings
05-11-2009, 05:02 PM
I loved Pride guys - so don't get me wrong. I used to watch the Japanese bootlegs before they were released in the States. I'm just calling a spade a spade.Well you just called it a garden Hoe son! :nono

sugarngold
05-11-2009, 05:20 PM
Well you just called it a garden Hoe son! :nono

lol

MaliSlamusrex
05-12-2009, 11:42 AM
What sums up the UFC is the way the company treated Andre Arlovski,

Arlovski was regarded as an unbeatable fighter, the UFC gave him the old Corture hype marketing job. when he won the heavy weight championship belt they loved him. He lost the belt to Sylviaa and the UFC said it was a shock, when he lost the rematch he was on the under card of the next show. Personally I think Sylvia style is bad for AA, and thats why he lost, but to put him on an under card is terrible.

Imagine if Vitor Belfort came to the UFC and beating A Silva twice, Silva he could be on an under card if it suites the UFC.

scurlaruntings
05-12-2009, 02:29 PM
What sums up the UFC is the way the company treated Andre Arlovski,

Arlovski was regarded as an unbeatable fighter, the UFC gave him the old Corture hype marketing job. when he won the heavy weight championship belt they loved him. He lost the belt to Sylviaa and the UFC said it was a shock, when he lost the rematch he was on the under card of the next show. Personally I think Sylvia style is bad for AA, and thats why he lost, but to put him on an under card is terrible.

Imagine if Vitor Belfort came to the UFC and beating A Silva twice, Silva he could be on an under card if it suites the UFC.Dana has no respect for his fighters whatsoever. I think its criminal what he did to AA. He completely blacked him out. His final bout with the UFC wasnt even screened.

sugarngold
05-12-2009, 02:42 PM
It's White's version of the yellow card. Look like shit in this fight - no one will see your next fight.

WiDDoW_MaKeR
05-12-2009, 03:46 PM
HH has gone 2-3 in the UFC. He lost his very first fight which was supposed to be a showcase fight for him against O'Brien. I don't know why he is complaining about being cut after a loss. He has already lost 3 times in under 2 years.

liger05
05-13-2009, 07:05 AM
Dana has no respect for his fighters whatsoever. I think its criminal what he did to AA. He completely blacked him out. His final bout with the UFC wasnt even screened.

Difficult situation. Alovski didn’t sign a new deal and as a promoter is it worth putting someone who is leaving over on tv.