View Full Version : Ivan Calderon KO Manny PAC in 19, stops Muhammad Ali in 39 ....
Stinky gloves
08-29-2007, 07:53 PM
Fighter A KO Fighter B
Fighter B KO Fighter C
..... =>
Fighter A KO Fighter Z
:boxer
Following continuous boxrec track of KO/TKO record Ivan Calderon 29 (6 KOs)-0- 0
may stop by pure KO Manny Pacquaio in 19 fights and stop Muhammad Ali in 39 ... :deal
Wanna try to find out how or beat the numbers? .... check the track in boxrec.
No UD/SD counts, only TKO/KO.
runnynose
08-29-2007, 08:04 PM
My imagination just can't grasp it.
I mean, I guess if Calderon was driving a car going 150 MPH that drove straight into Ali, you could technically say that he KO'd him.....:think
dave82
08-29-2007, 08:10 PM
Mrs. Krabappel, my brains is burning!!!
Stinky gloves
08-29-2007, 08:12 PM
I mean, I guess if Calderon was driving a car going 150 MPH that drove straight into Ali, you could technically say that he KO'd him.....:think
This is the only tricky part, Ali never been formally TKO/KO but he was stopped once.
unclepaulie
08-29-2007, 08:16 PM
is this post confusing and stupid as all hell or is it just me?
Stinky gloves
08-29-2007, 08:17 PM
is this post confusing and stupid as all hell or is it just me?
Thats you I guess:lol:
ravtrav
08-29-2007, 08:17 PM
is this post confusing and stupid as all hell or is it just me?:yep :nut :nut :huh :nut :nut
IntentionalButt
08-29-2007, 08:24 PM
ain't nobody understand the words that coming out of your mouth
This is the only tricky part, Ali never been formally TKO/KO but he was stopped once.
Twice. By Holmes (:oops:) and Berbick.
unclepaulie
08-29-2007, 08:27 PM
are you saying that ivan calderon would KO pacquiao and ali? thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard
Stinky gloves
08-29-2007, 08:28 PM
Twice. By Holmes (:oops:) and Berbick.
Berbick was UD probably?
Stinky gloves
08-29-2007, 08:30 PM
are you saying that ivan calderon would KO pacquiao and ali? thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard
Thats the idea :rofl:rofl:rofl ... find the track of KOs ..... have fun or go away :hi:
IntentionalButt
08-29-2007, 08:32 PM
Thats the idea :rofl:rofl:rofl
Idea isn't the first word that springs to mind...:think
Stinky gloves
08-29-2007, 08:36 PM
Idea isn't the first word that springs to mind...:think
It's really the same idea as the "linear champion" ...
if you KO somebody and he KO another guy its means you may KO the other guy as well ....
I know you take it seriously :rofl
Stinky gloves
08-29-2007, 08:49 PM
I will give you a hint:
42 Holmes stopped Ali in 10
41 Tyson TKO4 Holmes
40 ....... KO8
39 ....... KO5
38 ...... TKO7
have fun, and find Calderon on the other end.
IntentionalButt
08-29-2007, 08:56 PM
It's really the same idea as the "linear champion" ...
if you KO somebody and he KO another guy its means you may KO the other guy as well ....
I know you take it seriously :rofl
In fact, I've always thought that "The Man" concept was pretty lame and baseless.
mad_takamura
08-29-2007, 08:57 PM
are you the only one having fun around here? :huh
Stinky gloves
08-29-2007, 08:59 PM
are you the only one having fun around here? :huh
You not becasue I've put PAC as Calderon's KO victim?
Record don't lie :deal :lol::lol::lol:
If you like you may find out how PAC stops Ali in 23 ....
mad_takamura
08-29-2007, 09:08 PM
You not becasue I've put PAC as Calderon's KO victim?
Record don't lie :deal :lol::lol::lol:
If you like you may find out how PAC stops Ali in 23 .... all i can say is: wtf?!!!!
boxbox
08-29-2007, 09:19 PM
err...wasting time isn't a luxury right now. ok whatever
Stinky gloves
08-29-2007, 11:00 PM
If you do not have anything else to do then why not have some fun?
Stinky gloves
08-30-2007, 10:44 AM
Nobody from the boxrec rats picking up the glove ? :bbb :hi:
Guru_Too_You
08-30-2007, 11:32 AM
Nobody from the boxrec rats picking up the glove ? :bbb :hi:
Stinky are these all supposed to be knockouts and or stoppages?
And your clue is misleading because no one has ever stopped Rahman via the 7th round.
Stinky gloves
08-30-2007, 03:34 PM
Stinky are these all supposed to be knockouts and or stoppages?
And your clue is misleading because no one has ever stopped Rahman via the 7th round.
yes only KO / TKO counts, no UD/SD/MD/PTS/NC.
After recounting the path it is 39 steps to Ali not 42.
Also the clue is
39 Holmes stopped Ali in 10
38 Tyson TKO4 Holmes
37....... KO8
36....... KO5
35 ...... TKO12
....
1 Calderon KO11 ...
On my list there are also p4p names as .....
PAC, Marco Antonio Barrera and Israel Vasquez stopped on the way.
Guru_Too_You
08-30-2007, 03:54 PM
yes only KO / TKO counts, no UD/SD/MD/PTS/NC.
After recounting the path it is 39 steps to Ali not 42.
Also the clue is
39 Holmes stopped Ali in 10
38 Tyson TKO4 Holmes
37....... KO8
36....... KO5
35 ...... TKO12
....
1 Calderon KO11 ...
On my list there are also p4p names as .....
PAC, Marco Antonio Barrera and Israel Vasquez stopped on the way.
You're a madman, but I accept your challenge and will do this in a few hours when I get home.
Stinky gloves
08-31-2007, 01:12 AM
You're a madman, but I accept your challenge and will do this in a few hours when I get home.
Anybody else have a free evening to waste?
cuchulain
08-31-2007, 02:15 AM
I mean, I guess if Calderon was driving a car going 150 MPH that drove straight into Ali, you could technically say that he KO'd him.....:think
Randy (Tex) Cobb once confessed to having been KO'd by a featherweight.
As he tells the story, it happened at a party. Someone was swinging the little fella by the heels and accidently hit Randy on the Jaw with the little guy's head, KO-ing him.
cuchulain
08-31-2007, 02:27 AM
It's really the same idea as the "linear champion" ...
if you KO somebody and he KO another guy its means you may KO the other guy as well ....
I know you take it seriously :rofl
Any rules in this thing, Stinky?
I'm thinking of age and condition. You're counting the loss of a braindamaged 38 year old Ali and the loss of a 39 year old Holmes as a basis for linearity.
At this point, I could probably beat Ali. That would make me the daddy of just about everybody in BOXINGREC's database.
Do we need rules or are those wild possibilities just part of the fun?
Stinky gloves
08-31-2007, 02:46 PM
Any rules in this thing, Stinky?
I'm thinking of age and condition. You're counting the loss of a braindamaged 38 year old Ali and the loss of a 39 year old Holmes as a basis for linearity.
At this point, I could probably beat Ali. That would make me the daddy of just about everybody in BOXINGREC's database.
Do we need rules or are those wild possibilities just part of the fun?
No real rules, just wild possibilities, however is it so odd that Calderon
could beat Ali who was beaten by Holmes? If he survive and run for the
first 10 rounds then porbably Ali would give up as he did against Holmes.
The true is Holmes didn't beat prime Ali and Tyson didn't beat prime Holmes
so if Calderon have a good luck then he could do the same at the same night.
Odds like 1:1000 but not zero at all.
Calderon to beat prime Ali and Holmes by KO are like 1:10000000...
Stinky gloves
08-31-2007, 02:52 PM
^My first 19 is it right?
I don't see Calderon beating Abel Ochoa ... they didn't fought at all?
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Also Ochoa never lost by KO/TKO 11
Stinky gloves
08-31-2007, 02:56 PM
39 Holmes stopped Ali in 10
38 Tyson TKO4 Holmes
37 Lennox Lewis KO8 Tyson
36 Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
35 Oleg Maskaev TKO12 Hasim Rahman
34 Corey sanders kO 8 Oleg
33 DaVarryl Williamson KO Corey
32 Willie Chapman KO DaVarryl
31 Lance Whitaker KO Willie
30 Luan Krasniqi KO Lance
29 Przemyslaw Saleta KO Luan
28 Fred Westgeest KO Przemyslaw
27 Attila Levin KO Fred
26 Jeremy Williams KO Levin
25 Brian Neilson KO Jeremy
24 Dicky Ryan KO brian
Thats gotta be wrong
You good up to Saleta :good but there is significant shortcut between Maskaev and Whitaker ... :bolt
Stinky gloves
08-31-2007, 03:29 PM
35 Oleg Maskaev TKO12 Hasim Rahman
34 Lance Whitaker KO 2 Oleg Maskaev
33 Luan Krasniqi KO Lance
32 Przemyslaw Saleta KO Luan
There we go
Ok Saleta is the key to go down with weight,
he have a glass chin so this opens a lot of possibilities.
Stinky gloves
08-31-2007, 08:34 PM
Boxrec rats, where are you guys? :huh :hi: :happy :lloll :soccerred
Stinky gloves
09-01-2007, 01:02 PM
I guess all the talk about how good you guys are in tracking boxers records were lies? :smoke
knockout
09-01-2007, 02:42 PM
Pacquiao will pretty much ko anybody just put them in the ring he'll knock them down.
Stinky gloves
09-01-2007, 03:01 PM
Pacquiao will pretty much ko anybody just put them in the ring he'll knock them down.
yeah but he may be KOed as well.
Stinky gloves
09-02-2007, 04:18 AM
You're a madman, but I accept your challenge and will do this in a few hours when I get home.
How its going, any progress?
Stinky gloves
09-02-2007, 07:06 PM
No boxrec rats anymore? :huh :scaredas: :rasta :dead :yikes ............ :think
Stinky gloves
09-02-2007, 11:50 PM
Are you guys simply give up?
Are you too weak for this challenge?
theHawtness
09-03-2007, 05:25 AM
Fighter A KO Fighter B
Fighter B KO Fighter C
..... =>
Fighter A KO Fighter Z
:boxer
Following continuous boxrec track of KO/TKO record Ivan Calderon 29 (6 KOs)-0- 0
may stop by pure KO Manny Pacquaio in 19 fights and stop Muhammad Ali in 39 ... :deal
Wanna try to find out how or beat the numbers? .... check the track in boxrec.
No UD/SD counts, only TKO/KO.
:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh
Stinky gloves
09-03-2007, 10:53 AM
:huh :huh :huh :huh :huh
Don't think so hard it can be dangerous for your brain.
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