slured speech top 10

[He Hate Me]

Punch drunk as a result of the sweet science. Just about all of these guys fought and got licenced and should not have.

1.Meldrick Taylor
2.Pernell Whitaker
3.Evander Holyfield
4.Riddick Bowe
5.Joe frazier
6.Muhammed Ali
7.James Toney
8.Arturo Gatti
10. ?
9.Tommy Morrison

[MancMexican]

Boxing is the sweet science but there is horrible price to pay for it alas.

[sues2nd]

Punch drunk as a result of the sweet science. Just about all of these guys fought and got licenced and should not have.

1.Meldrick Taylor
2.Pernell Whitaker
3.Evander Holyfield
4.Riddick Bowe
5.Joe frazier
6.Muhammed Ali
7.James Toney
8.Arturo Gatti
10. ?
9.Tommy Morrison

I am not even gonna touch this....

[lenin]

roach

[lenin]

roger talks funny but I thinks thats because he's missing all his teeth

[He Hate Me]

roger talks funny but I thinks thats because he's missing all his teeth

yea and he talks alot of S++++.

[IntentionalButt]

Ok, this is pretty fucking sad.

[unclepaulie]

Joe Frazier

[He Hate Me]

Tommy (what the hell did he just say) Hearns !

I did leave one spot and he is in the running for it, good one I forgot about him.

[The Kurgan]

Tommy (what the hell did he just say) Hearns !

True, though a lot of that has to do with his mangled nose. :(

[He Hate Me]

Ok, this is pretty fucking sad.

Hey this is the reality of the sport and if we don't address it we are not being realistic.

[Vantage_West]

um this is kinda wrong to make a top 10 list on guys who have been beaten up in tha mental.

but one man who i feel was very punchy would be terry norris

[Vantage_West]

Hey this is thereality of the sport and if we don't address it we are not being realistic.doesnt matter man you dont make a thread on the best death in a boxing ring thread.

it's realistic but it's sadistic

[He Hate Me]

um this is kinda wrong to make a top 10 list on guys who have been beaten up in tha mental.

but one man who i feel was very punchy would be terry norris

another punch drunk canditate that eluded my attention.

[IntentionalButt]

Hey this is the reality of the sport and if we don't address it we are not being realistic.


But you're not just acknowledging a negative aspect of the sport; you're celebrating it.

[lenin]

yea and he talks alot of S++++.

he's a mayweather, it ok

[Motor City Sam]

But you're not just acknowledging a negative aspect of the sport; you're celebrating it.

That's how it looks to me, too. Not sure what the point is. :?

[He Hate Me]

But you're not just acknowledging a negative aspect of the sport; you're celebrating it.

All due respect to all of the warriors who step foot into the battle and risk it all, awarness is the key. The exposer of the real dangers of the sport are nothing to delight over. I just hope that anyone with the means, political power, and influence can read a thread like this and make a difference.

[Stinky gloves]

Where is James Toney?

[The Kurgan]

Where is James Toney?

Burger King, last I heard.

[Ramshall1]

I feel bad for Meldrick and the rest. But hey man, he lost alot but he lost it doing what he loved to do. God bless.

[Stinky gloves]

Burger King, last I heard.

Now I know how he got so fat, he try to order just a single whooper but
they cannot understand so they give him a sample from each menu.

[He Hate Me]

1. This is a multi prong problem, my thing is this, the licensing of some unstable unworthy individuals to fight well beyond there prime is beyond sick.

2. Boxers don't retire from the ring, the ring retires boxers.

3. Outreach and pension programs, like the one roy jones jr started are not getting to every one in need, this means to support oneself, one must do the unthinkable as long as they get a license, and if they can't get a license they go overseas like holyfield.

I am not in any way poking fun im just exposing a sad reality gentlemen.

[Marnoff]

Hey this is the reality of the sport and if we don't address it we are not being realistic.

The point is that you're being a fucking idiot. What are you trying to address and change? You're not trying to do anything productive, you're just a troll.

[Marnoff]

I am not in any way poking fun im just exposing a sad reality gentlemen.

Exposing what?

This is a well known fact.

[Marnoff]

But you're not just acknowledging a negative aspect of the sport; you're celebrating it.

Yep.

[The Kurgan]

Now I know how he got so fat, he try to order just a single whooper but
they cannot understand so they give him a sample from each menu.

Toney actually did order a single whooper (whopper maybe? I don't go to fast food joins)... As a starter. When he was 12. When he started a diet. And had stomach aches.

That said, his mother was apparently a talented confectionary maker, so it's not surprising he developed a... Prosperous constitution, shall we say.

[IntentionalButt]

All due respect to all of the warriors who step foot into the battle and risk it all, awarness is the key. The exposer of the real dangers of the sport are nothing to delight over. I just hope that anyone with the means, political power, and influence can read a thread like this and make a difference.

Well you gotta be careful. If you're trying to make a serious statement that you want to get noticed, you really need to avoid any air of frivolity or anything that suspends your credibility, because you risk further reinforcing people's lack of respect for the issue.

[MilesP]

Punch drunk as a result of the sweet science. Just about all of these guys fought and got licenced and should not have.

1.Meldrick Taylor
2.Pernell Whitaker
3.Evander Holyfield
4.Riddick Bowe
5.Joe frazier
6.Muhammed Ali
7.James Toney
8.Arturo Gatti
10. ?
9.Tommy Morrison

Iran Barkley is the name missing from that list.

oh and Holy might as well be no.1. He's got more illegitimate kids than brain cells left.

[He Hate Me]

Yep.

I suppose not talking about it and acting like its not there is ok?

[He Hate Me]

Well you gotta be careful. If you're trying to make a serious statement that you want to get noticed, you really need to avoid any air of frivolity or anything that suspends your credibility, because you risk further reinforcing people's lack of respect for the issue.

I think I clarified my position most clearly.

[sthomas]

This thread at first made me think it was not the right thing to do. However, after more thougt, and reading the links, this is a valid issue to be addressed in this venue.

It's a very difficult subject, you have guys like Lamotta who seem to have faired pretty well in this respect, and he took some serious blows over the years, and then others, who have not taken nearly as much punishment who are ruined.

However, the guys mentioned, who are still allowed to fight, make me speculate more about the lack of integrety in the sport.

[aliwasthegreatest]

Exposing what?

This is a well known fact.

oh my God dude then don't read it.

[box03]

The thing about james Toney hes hardly gotten hit solid in his career he roles with most of the punches hes getting hit with aside from the fight with jirov that would be his toughest fight to date plus look at his speech in 91 compared to now not much difference i think thats just his ghetto way of talking

[Marnoff]

another punch drunk canditate that eluded my attention.

You sound serious about solving the issue.

[He Hate Me]

You sound serious about solving the issue.

These boxers aren't playing tag so stop pretending otherwise.

[dave82]

I havent heard Pernell in a while, is he that bad?

[Napoleon]

Punch drunk as a result of the sweet science. Just about all of these guys fought and got licenced and should not have.

1.Meldrick Taylor
2.Pernell Whitaker
3.Evander Holyfield
4.Riddick Bowe
5.Joe frazier
6.Muhammed Ali
7.James Toney
8.Arturo Gatti
10. ?
9.Tommy Morrison

:huh He always talked like a retard.

[Carlos Primera]

Punch drunk as a result of the sweet science. Just about all of these guys fought and got licenced and should not have.

1.Meldrick Taylor
2.Pernell Whitaker
3.Evander Holyfield
4.Riddick Bowe
5.Joe frazier
6.Muhammed Ali
7.James Toney
8.Arturo Gatti
10. ?
9.Tommy Morrison

whitaker speech imo is more the result of all the coke he did than the punches he took, or a a combination of both factors.

[Hitman]

Roger


Roger?! Have you guys heard Floyd Sr? I don't know what the Hell Floyd's saying? I think he spoke in code on purpose so no one would understand him when he was giving Hoya instructions in the corner.:desk

[Carlos Primera]

Roger?! Have you guys heard Floyd Sr? I don't know what the Hell Floyd's saying? I think he spoke in code on purpose so no one would understand him when he was giving Hoya instructions in the corner.:desk
"now look, look, looky hear mayn, nock dis sum bitch owt!"

this is the only sentence of clarity i have heard from floyd sr.

[Lampley]

There's nothing wrong with discussing this tragic topic, but the headline comes across as a bit flippant. Top 10 makes it sound like comedy material, and it ain't.

I wish everyone -- fighters, promoters, trainers and TV -- would be required to dish out some sort of payroll tax toward a pension. I believe this was part of John McCain's plan for the National Boxing Commission, but of course that got shot down in Congress.

[elTerrible]

But you're not just acknowledging a negative aspect of the sport; you're celebrating it.
I think his intentions are good. He probably could have worded it different. "Top ten" sounds like youre picking out your favorite punch drunk fighters, like you enjoy it or something.

It could be better worded as "what are the ten former fighters in the worst conditon" or something like that, but I dont think anyone is laughing or taking enjoyment in the fact that these fighters were hurt.



edit:
damn it, i hate it when you reply to a comment on the first page without reading the end, only to find out after you posted the guy just above said the same thing.

[runnynose]

one of terry norris's old trainers was telling my a story about how punchy he was that he would walk around the gym after trainng asking people if they had seen his car keys yet they were in his hand! lol

Could such aftereffects be a factor in the vehicle crashes that seem common among boxers? Chico Corrales, Sal Sanchez, Masao Ohba, many others whose names escape me now.

Randomly occurring disorientation? Perhaps neurological checkups should also be required by boxing commissions in the course of a fighter's training, what do you think?

[Burundanga]

Punch drunk as a result of the sweet science. Just about all of these guys fought and got licenced and should not have.

1.Meldrick Taylor
2.Pernell Whitaker
3.Evander Holyfield
4.Riddick Bowe
5.Joe frazier
6.Muhammed Ali
7.James Toney
8.Arturo Gatti
10. ?
9.Tommy Morrison

This just made me wonder about the longterm affects of boxing vs mma. Mma gets a real bad rap sometimes from being too brutal, human cockfighting, barbaric etc etc..... is this brain damage issue the "skeleton in the closet" of boxing?

There is nothing "sweet" or "scientific" about a sport where a large percentage of top level participants are literally brain damaged to the point that they can't speak.

Food for thought.

(and yes I am aware this is a boxing forum not mma and I am quite sure I will be lambasted for bringing it up)

[jecxbox]

David Reid slurs his speech now man Tito fucked him up its such a shame they went into that fight with 0 experience at all. Didn't even belong in the ring with Trinidad and you gotta give it to him for dominating Tito early in that fight.

[T.C.W]

Terry Norris

[divac]

Alot of these fighters who seriously slurr their speech.....
.....certainly the punches they take are a culprit, but fighters like Whitaker, Wilfredo Benitez, Hector Camacho, and quite a few others, were into heavy drugs.......
.....Meldrick Taylor is so far gone with his speech communication, I'm wondering if he did'nt dabble into heavy drug use.

Some of these fighters make so much money, have so much time on their hand away from training......
.......they have such a group following, that they just dont know how to handle it.......they end up turning to drugs to make all the groupies around them happy.

Its sad, but I'd bet with most of these fighters, drugs has played a bigger role than the actual abuse they took in the ring.

[divac]

one of terry norris's old trainers was telling my a story about how punchy he was that he would walk around the gym after trainng asking people if they had seen his car keys yet they were in his hand! lol

That story just eats me up.

As boxing fans that support the sport, we dont like to think about it.....but its the reality.

I dont know that there is a solution to avoiding and trying to prevent situations like that of Terry Norris'......but man, when I think of Terry Norris, I think of a Warrior in the ring and a true soft spoken gentleman out of it........
......man, this just bums me out!!!!:?

[Burundanga]

Alot of these fighters who seriously slurr their speech.....
.....certainly the punches they take are a culprit, but fighters like Whitaker, Wilfredo Benitez, Hector Camacho, and quite a few others, were into heavy drugs.......
.....Meldrick Taylor is so far gone with his speech communication, I'm wondering if he did'nt dabble into heavy drug use.

Some of these fighters make so much money, have so much time on their hand away from training......
.......they have such a group following, that they just dont know how to handle it.......they end up turning to drugs to make all the groupies around them happy.

Its sad, but I'd bet with most of these fighters, drugs has played a bigger role than the actual abuse they took in the ring.

With all due respect, this is utter nonsense.

Chronic traumatic encephalopathy, pugilistic Parkinson's syndrome, boxer's syndrome, and punch-drunk syndrome are all different ways to describe the neurological disorder that affects boxers and others who receive repeated blows to the head. It's a proven fact that boxing causes these problems.

[divac]

With all due respect, this is utter nonsense.

Chronic traumatic encephalopathy, pugilistic Parkinson's syndrome, boxer's syndrome, and punch-drunk syndrome are all different ways to describe the neurological disorder that affects boxers and others who receive repeated blows to the head. It's a proven fact that boxing causes these problems.

I'm not saying that boxing does'nt cause these problems.
What I'm saying is that their are fighters out there like Pernell Whitaker for example.....heavy drug use is most probably the culprit for his speech slurring and involuntary facial twitches!
The same can be said of Wilfredo Benitez who was a heavy drug abuser.

Has anybody heard one of the greatest soccer stars in history talk lately?????.....Argentina's Diego Maradona??????
He's an outright drug abuser. If he was a boxer, we'd have put him on this thread and on this list.
.......or are you going to say that his hitting a soccer ball with his head is the cause for his predicament?

[Rock0052]

This just made me wonder about the longterm affects of boxing vs mma. Mma gets a real bad rap sometimes from being too brutal, human cockfighting, barbaric etc etc..... is this brain damage issue the "skeleton in the closet" of boxing?

There is nothing "sweet" or "scientific" about a sport where a large percentage of top level participants are literally brain damaged to the point that they can't speak.

Food for thought.

(and yes I am aware this is a boxing forum not mma and I am quite sure I will be lambasted for bringing it up)

No lambasting here, but I do have a couple of thoughts on it. Number one is that I think a huge, huge reason why it's more prevalent in boxing is because of how young fighters generally start fighting. I don't care if you've got headgear on or not, kids punching each other day in day out does much more damage than a fighter who doesn't start until, say, 18 or 19 years old. The brain's still developing at that age, and bigger gloves and headgear aren't going to prevent that damage. Figure in all the amateur fights, sparring, and gym wars, and you get guys who're shopworn by the time they're 25. Look at Hasim Rahman, who didn't start boxing until he was 20- this guy's gotten KO'd brutally, multiple times. However, he's in better shape speech-wise than the fighters on that list who've been KO'd less. Nearly all those guys people are mentioning were Olympians or high-level amateurs by the time they were teens. The seeds were sown for damage later on in their professional career.

The only problem is, those who start late are generally at a disadvantage to those who've trained their whole childhoods, and alot of athletes don't turn to boxing that late because they don't think it's a realistic option. The kids who do have boxing as a future usually don't have the luxury of waiting. I wish I had the solution to this issue, but I've pinpointed that that's the difference.

Point two, and much less important than the main point I'm stressing, is that MMA is still a new sport in the grand scheme of things. In 20 years, we'll have a better handle on the long term effects of it. It's also a sport where you don't have to get hit in the head for training every day because of how important other skills are, and it's a sport most people don't take up until later in life. Most fighters don't even get started in MMA before they're in their 20's. With how mainstream the sport's getting, I do expect the talent pool to continue to get younger, however.

[Burundanga]

Divac ...what you said was that drug use has played a bigger role than the actual abuse they took in the ring and that is rubbish. Sure Maradona has slurred speech because he is a drug addict but that doesn't have anything to do with boxing. And by the way, I live in England and it is a common discussion here that a life of heading a ball can cause these very symptoms although I would agree that it is of course MUCH less an issue with football (soccer)

Fact: Pugilistic Dementia is real and is without a doubt the most likely culprit of the brain damage issues.

For every boxer you claim has slurred speech from drug abuse, I can name 10 that have never touched the stuff.

Simple: Boxing causes irreparable brain injury to many many career boxers.

[Burundanga]

No lambasting here, but I do have a couple of thoughts on it. Number one is that I think a huge, huge reason why it's more prevalent in boxing is because of how young fighters generally start fighting. I don't care if you've got headgear on or not, kids punching each other day in day out does much more damage than a fighter who doesn't start until, say, 18 or 19 years old. The brain's still developing at that age, and bigger gloves and headgear aren't going to prevent that damage. Figure in all the amateur fights, sparring, and gym wars, and you get guys who're shopworn by the time they're 25. Look at Hasim Rahman, who didn't start boxing until he was 20- this guy's gotten KO'd brutally, multiple times. However, he's in better shape speech-wise than the fighters on that list who've been KO'd less. Nearly all those guys people are mentioning were Olympians or high-level amateurs by the time they were teens. The seeds were sown for damage later on in their professional career.

The only problem is, those who start late are generally at a disadvantage to those who've trained their whole childhoods, and alot of athletes don't turn to boxing that late because they don't think it's a realistic option. The kids who do have boxing as a future usually don't have the luxury of waiting. I wish I had the solution to this issue, but I've pinpointed that that's the difference.

Point two, and much less important than the main point I'm stressing, is that MMA is still a new sport in the grand scheme of things. In 20 years, we'll have a better handle on the long term effects of it. It's also a sport where you don't have to get hit in the head for training every day because of how important other skills are, and it's a sport most people don't take up until later in life. Most fighters don't even get started in MMA before they're in their 20's. With how mainstream the sport's getting, I do expect the talent pool to continue to get younger, however.

Yup. I definately agree with you. Especially point 2. I would add that the basic construct of the sport are so different that MMAers should fare better over time. Repeated blows to the head in MMA usually last a fraction of the time in MMA and once a guy is semi-conscious for any reason, the bout is usually stopped. Standing a guy up for 8 seconds to recover once he is nearly unconscious does not happen in MMA and I think thats a major factor. The fighter may have "recovered" but his brain is beginning to swell....the 8 seconds doesn't stop that. When you think about it, it's like ramming your car into a pole at 30 miles per hours.....clearing the cobwebs....getting in another car...doing it again and again and again until you can't continue.....

[Rock0052]

Yup. I definately agree with you. Especially point 2. I would add that the basic construct of the sport are so different that MMAers should fare better over time. Repeated blows to the head in MMA usually last a fraction of the time in MMA and once a guy is semi-conscious for any reason, the bout is usually stopped. Standing a guy up for 8 seconds to recover once he is nearly unconscious does not happen in MMA and I think thats a major factor. The fighter may have "recovered" but his brain is beginning to swell....the 8 seconds doesn't stop that. When you think about it, it's like ramming your car into a pole at 30 miles per hours.....clearing the cobwebs....getting in another car...doing it again and again and again until you can't continue.....
I agree with you- the quick stoppages of MMA are what should help save fighters from a quality of life standpoint, combined with the fact not all fights even have much striking. MMA does have it's own issues to deal with for it's fighters, however- The Smashing Machine, about Mark Kerr, is a good documentary about that. We'll still have to wait to see what other long term effects being in MMA can have, however.

Also, note that Joe Frazier is the first person to win the gold in the Olympics and be Heavyweight champion. How interesting that the rise of young fighters taking on more and more amateur fights before turning pro happened right around the same generation where pugilistica dimentia started becoming more and more common.

[divac]

Divac ...what you said was that drug use has played a bigger role than the actual abuse they took in the ring and that is rubbish. Sure Maradona has slurred speech because he is a drug addict but that doesn't have anything to do with boxing. And by the way, I live in England and it is a common discussion here that a life of heading a ball can cause these very symptoms although I would agree that it is of course MUCH less an issue with football (soccer)

Fact: Pugilistic Dementia is real and is without a doubt the most likely culprit of the brain damage issues.

For every boxer you claim has slurred speech from drug abuse, I can name 10 that have never touched the stuff.

Simple: Boxing causes irreparable brain injury to many many career boxers.

My mistake friend, certainly what you're saying is true.

I should have worded it that with alot of these fighters drugs has played a bigger role than the actual punches they took in the ring.

Certainly what you're saying rings true. Boxing is an unforgiving sport.
The head trauma alot of these fighters take throughout their careers certainly catches up, and takes their toll unfortunately.

[MilesP]

Hector Camacho is beyond punch drunk. You can't understand a thing he says in English or Spanish. Just go to youtube and there's a video of a tv show in Puerto Rico making fun of him. He's all drugged up and punchy in the video.


:yikes

WK3wbUZB2Gs

[ozziebattler]

David Reid slurs his speech now man Tito fucked him up its such a shame they went into that fight with 0 experience at all. Didn't even belong in the ring with Trinidad and you gotta give it to him for dominating Tito early in that fight.

Olympic gold medalist has no experience???

And im pretty sure the thousands of punches Reid would of copped throughout his career would of contributed to the slurred speech,not just one tito beat down..

[fists of fury]

:yikes

WK3wbUZB2Gs

God, he's absolutely gone to shit.

[He Hate Me]

:yikes

WK3wbUZB2Gs

wish i knew what he was trying to say.

[Two Fisted Piston]

:yikes

WK3wbUZB2GsDrugged up to his eyeballs:verysad

[Drexl]

Drugged up to his eyeballs:verysad

Absolutely.

He looks more drugged than punch-drunk. Punch-drunk ex-boxers tend to move very little when talking. They seem generally "numb".

Hector is all over the place. He looks like your typical drug user.

[RDJ]

Absolutely.

He looks more drugged than punch-drunk. Punch-drunk ex-boxers tend to move very little when talking. They seem generally "numb".

Hector is all over the place. He looks like your typical drug user.

I agree, he doesn't sound punch drunk at all. He sounds drunk and coked up.

[theHawtness]

freddy "the cock" roach

[CASH_718]

Leon Spinks end thread.

[Grabonator]

Iran Barkley is the name missing from that list.

oh and Holy might as well be no.1. He's got more illegitimate kids than brain cells left.

I think Holyfield speaks still good, at least better than Toney. Toney is much worse than Holyfield IMO.

[AmazingHook]

Hector Camacho is beyond punch drunk. You can't understand a thing he says in English or Spanish. Just go to youtube and there's a video of a tv show in Puerto Rico making fun of him. He's all drugged up and punchy in the video.

Tito Trinidad is pretty bad too. He's going to get worse after the Roy Jones fight.

If Hopkins, Mosley, De La Hoya and Winky keep fighting they're headed to being punchy. I already hear it in their voices.

Is Tito punchy???:?

[Zakman]

Absolutely.

He looks more drugged than punch-drunk. Punch-drunk ex-boxers tend to move very little when talking. They seem generally "numb".

Hector is all over the place. He looks like your typical drug user.


He looks drunk to me, the way he staggers around while being interviewed, and then passes out at the end. I can't understand Spanish, but I've seen enough people inebriated to know what one looks like!:lol:

[Hitman]

I think Holyfield speaks still good, at least better than Toney. Toney is much worse than Holyfield IMO.

I think the fatter Toney got...the more his speech became slurred.:lol:

[Lampley]

If you go back and watch that Benn/Eubank preview and Toney's interview toward the end of it on satellite (it's on YouTube), you realize how much James has slipped. He needs to retire.

[AmazingHook]

If you go back and watch that Benn/Eubank preview and Toney's interview toward the end of it on satellite (it's on YouTube), you realize how much James has slipped. He needs to retire.

Yeah, Toney has definitely changed a lot. Check out this interview. roy Jones vs Toney

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[Fab2333]

thats f***ed up, 2 make fun of them.

[Sug3]

I can name trainer's and fighter's,james toney,riddick bowe,iran barkley,hector comacho sr,pernell whitaker,paul williams trainer,roger mayweather,floyd mayweather sr,freddie roach and chad dawson.

[AmazingHook]

I can name trainer's and fighter's,james toney,riddick bowe,iran barkley,hector comacho sr,pernell whitaker,paul williams trainer,roger mayweather,floyd mayweather sr,freddie roach and chad dawson.

You really think Chad Dawson and Paul Williams are punchy?:huh

[He Hate Me]

You really think Chad Dawson and Paul Williams are punchy?:huh

pw trainer.

[IntentionalButt]

pw trainer.
how about chad dawson?

[sandwichsurgeon]

Tommy (what the hell did he just say) Hearns !

Shut your fucking mouth.

[ChampionsForever]

This is a pretty low thread :-(

[bumdujour]

Terry Norris aint doing too good either.

too many concussions in his career i guess.

[papaspank]

There should be an age requirement for posters of 18 +. This is another stupid fucking thread.

[Lampley]

I can name trainer's and fighter's,james toney,riddick bowe,iran barkley,hector comacho sr,pernell whitaker,paul williams trainer,roger mayweather,floyd mayweather sr,freddie roach and chad dawson.
Dawson doesn't speak well in public, but he's not punchy. I've even posted a thread on that before, how he needs to work on his public speaking in order to market himself better, but some people just aren't naturally gifted speaking in front of a camera.

Jermain Taylor used to sound bad, and Bo Jackson was one of the worst. Dawson isn't punchy, just unrefined.

[Rock0052]

This is another stupid fucking thread.

It was a given that the thread would go downhill considering the best post of my ESB career is in it. Irony's a cruel bitch that way. :lol:

[He Hate Me]

It was a given that the thread would go downhill considering the best post of my ESB career is in it. Irony's a cruel bitch that way. :lol:

you made some good points however when you see guys like mosley, jones, judah, mayweather they seam pretty articulate to me, and they started very young.

[Thread Stealer]

Joe Frazier

He may be punch-drunk, but he's also always just plain drunk to begin with.

[andyZOR]

Golota in public studders. But he doesn't slur.

[Nawfal]

roger mayweather and his brother are total fuckheads. i cannot understand a word they say.

[Cookie]

roger mayweather and his brother are total fuckheads. i cannot understand a word they say.

I don't know if that's anything to do with being punch drunk. I reckon they were probably just thick as pig shit to begin with. It seems more like a case of never having grasped the English language rather than brain damage.

[Lampley]

I don't know if that's anything to do with being punch drunk. I reckon they were probably just thick as pig shit to begin with. It seems more like a case of never having grasped the English language rather than brain damage.

The dudes who buy cheap beer at the gas station by my house talk like Roger.

[Toopretty]

I dont like the dissing of the midwest OLD school lingo of the mayweathers...they talk like black folk of the 70s like fat albert characters..lol..Do you see us talking about how people(white) down in the south..west virginia....mississipi..Texas...shit...North Carolina...South Carolina...shit I can keep going..I dont understand a fucking thing any of them say at all....

[Lampley]

I dont like the dissing of the midwest OLD school lingo of the mayweathers...they talk like black folk of the 70s like fat albert characters..lol..Do you see us talking about how people(white) down in the south..west virginia....mississipi..Texas...shit...North Carolina...South Carolina...shit I can keep going..I dont understand a fucking thing any of them say at all....

You insult black folks in the Midwest by saying they talk like Roger Mayweather. It's not an accent, it's the inability to pronounce words. Some people in the South are that way as well, black and white. That's why I mentioned the thing about the dudes who buy beer at my gas station.

But I love the way the Mayweathers talk. Though I was not displeased that Dawson left Floyd Sr., I certainly will miss hearing Floyd between rounds.

[He Hate Me]

Floyds an ignorant. " YOU FRAID OF UM PUNCH DAT BITCH" please, he is representing more than himself when millions tune in to watch a prizefight. Floyd represents a fraternity and a profession. Floyd obviously doesn't put much regard into what people think of him so he rambles on as usual and gets a pass.


And yes fyi I had one or two drinks tonight.

[Thread Stealer]

Terry Norris aint doing too good either.

too many concussions in his career i guess.

He was known to go all out during sparring.

That sure didn't help.

[He Hate Me]

He was known to go all out during sparring.

That sure didn't help.

Some people in the boxing circle have little sypathy for norris after the way he conducted himself during the leonard fight.

[Thread Stealer]

Some people in the boxing circle have little sypathy for norris after the way he conducted himself during the leonard fight.

For what? Hitting Ray when he was down?

That was one of Norris's less dirty performances. :lol:

[Rock0052]

you made some good points however when you see guys like mosley, jones, judah, mayweather they seam pretty articulate to me, and they started very young.

There will always be exceptions; I just think the likelihood of it dramatically increases when fighters start young because of how much more damaging it is long term to get hit when you're 15 than when you're 25.

[emanuel_augustus]

Disrespectful thread.

[divac]

Disrespectful thread.
There are posters and posts in many threads that are disrespectful, this thread probably included.......but for the most part at least imo, I found the thread to be educational.Fighters getting to the point of slurring their speech is a fact of boxing, and although as boxing fans we might not like to talk about it, sweeping it under the rug is certainly not going to do anything to help prevent these kinds of happenings.Their are fighters out there who themselves frequent boards like this. A thread like this can make them think twice about prolonging their fighting careers.

[emanuel_augustus]

It is a reality of boxing, but to "rank" fighters in terms of the effects they've incurrred in the ring is pathetic in my estimation.

Granted, boxers know that the sport is dangerous and that they will incur risks, I see no reason to make a sport of debating which boxers have suffered the most from their careers.

[divac]

It is a reality of boxing, but to "rank" fighters in terms of the effects they've incurrred in the ring is pathetic in my estimation.

Granted, boxers know that the sport is dangerous and that they will incur risks, I see no reason to make a sport of debating which boxers have suffered the most from their careers.

I see where you're coming from EA....as you can see however, most in the thread have'nt gone the route that the thread title suggest by ranking them.....but have named fighters who possibly are suffering from slurred speech impairment.


Not sure how the starter of the thread intended, but certainly I can see how it would be disrespectful to rank an impairment like that in a ranking order.
Thankfully, most have'nt gone that route.