View Full Version : Does anyone really give Kenny a chance against BJ Penn?
sugarngold
05-13-2009, 04:31 PM
If so, why? I sure as hell don't think Florian will make it past three.
Burundanga
05-13-2009, 05:16 PM
I give him a reasonable chance. Maybe 50/50. Here are some reasons why I think so.
Kenny is always fully prepared both mentally and physically. BJ has shown he is often times unprepared.
Kenny may not be at BJs level in BJJ but he has excellent BJJ for MMA.
Kenny has very good muay thai. Although he's not likely to ktfo BJ, he could hurt him, slow him down and win rounds through agressive striking. Maybe even bang him up, tire him out and RNC him.
Kenny is a smart fighter and will not make the same mistake that Sherk made last time and fight to BJs strengths.
Kenny is hungry and motivated. Who knows which BJ will show up.
Kenny is the underdog and that position suits him. He likes to prove the naysayers wrong.
radab
05-13-2009, 06:32 PM
I actually think Kenny's going to win. His razor elbows are going to split BJs head like a coconut
Burundanga
05-13-2009, 06:49 PM
I actually think Kenny's going to win. His razor elbows are going to split BJs head like a coconut
I'd like to see that outcome but BJ doesn't get cut very easily. If anyone can do it, Kenny can.
radab
05-13-2009, 08:17 PM
I'd like to see that outcome but BJ doesn't get cut very easily. If anyone can do it, Kenny can.
BJ's a special fighter but i believe Kenny's destined for that level too. This is a seriously hard fight to call - just the way it should be :thumbsup
Vitor Belfort
05-13-2009, 11:44 PM
The only way i can see florian winning this fight is if it goes 5 rounds and bj ran out of gas later in the fight. I give penn the advantage on their stand up and defenitely on the ground. Florian is a good BJJ but penn is just better.
Polymath
05-14-2009, 12:15 AM
BJ's a special fighter but i believe Kenny's destined for that level too.
:rofl
BJ by Sanders/Klitschko like domination.
BJ does everything better than Kenny, is a better athlete, has better fighting instincts, is more expereinced, has fought way better opposition. KF doesn't really have a single thing on him.
Predicting BJ will turn up in bad shape is a hail mary pick.
sugarngold
05-14-2009, 12:24 AM
The only advantage that I see Florian having is that he does throw leg kicks. In all the other areas - Penn seems light years ahead of him. BJ has the sharper hands, the better ground game, etc.
Perhaps if Kenny comes in with a plan to work low leg kicks all night - he might be able to extend Penn. Otherwise - I;m seeing replays of Florian/Sanchez in my head.
chimba
05-14-2009, 01:45 AM
BJs out to prove something, the guys has started training for this fight
I give Florian a good chance, probably arounds 40%. Who knows what state Penn is in after his fight against GSP, it's hard not to lose confidence when you get a beat down like that and as previous posters have mentioned, Penn's work ethic is questionable.
solidchin
05-14-2009, 04:14 AM
i can only see this fight going one way and thats to bj penn thats only if he trains properley though, his cardio is questionable but i cant see that being a problem against kenflo dnt get me wrong florian has got great ability but his bjj is nowhere near the level of bj,s and as for for the stand up bj is always gona win it, i dont think the gsp fight will have affected bj that much besides he has bounced back before from defeat i.e matt hughes plus he,s in his natural weight division so i reckon it,ll be a great fight but bj will come out on top
kingpwc
05-14-2009, 04:38 AM
@....155 .....bj has never been out shape ...or questionable...cardio....
Other weight classes....ok...155...in shape
Ken Flo can he win sure ...
But not likely......
Bj.is....out to prove something..
And so is kenny...
But... Bj....will win...imo
beecho1988
05-14-2009, 05:18 AM
Bj ud
MaliSlamusrex
05-14-2009, 07:50 AM
He has a chance, BJ Penn is good but he isn't that good.
Grievesy
05-14-2009, 08:57 AM
:rofl
BJ by Sanders/Klitschko like domination.
BJ does everything better than Kenny, is a better athlete, has better fighting instincts, is more expereinced, has fought way better opposition. KF doesn't really have a single thing on him.
Predicting BJ will turn up in bad shape is a hail mary pick.
That's how I see it. I don't think KenFlo has anything for BJ, but then again I don't think anyone in the LW division does. BJ is going to turn up in shape as he has to cut to get to 155, so that's a non issue.
Hopefully Kenny will keep it competitive, but I doubt he sees the 4th round if that.
québecwarrior
05-14-2009, 10:41 AM
Sure.
sugarngold
05-14-2009, 11:35 AM
Sure.
And why?
sugarngold
05-14-2009, 11:36 AM
Kenny is going to get mouthfucked against BJ Penn.
Grievesy
05-14-2009, 11:52 AM
Kenny is going to get mouthfucked against BJ Penn.
You got to use that pretty quickly then.:lol:
sugarngold
05-14-2009, 11:58 AM
Well you have to start some time and this seems like as good a time as any.
québecwarrior
05-14-2009, 12:56 PM
And why?
Florian is a very good celebral fighter. Very intelligent. He has the cardio to outlast Penn. And a very good chin to be caught there and there with Penn's excellent striking skill with his hands. Florian has a very good arsenal of striking, but he lacks a little power. His BJJ is slick enough to not be RNC'ed by Penn. I think Florian will try to make it a kickboxing fight. When BJ see that Florian is running away from him doing his leg kick there and there, BJ will take him down, and probably pound him out unfornuatly. BJ Penn's GnP is good and underrated. With his ability to trap an opponent arm, he will use that vs Florian.
Kenny has only a chance to win a decision, if he can nullify Penn's takedown. I think he has the tools for the standing. But he lacks the wrestling to avoid to being on his back vs BJ.
Sherk will always beat Florian because of that in my opinion.
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