View Full Version : Dawson will box the ears of Diaconu
Just remember where you heard it first. Diaconu had a great amatuer career, but is being over rated for an impressive KO of a journeyman. He doesn't have anything apart from power that can really trouble Dawson. Dawson will just be too quick and will use his angles and combination punching to befuddle the slower challenger.
Maxime
08-30-2007, 12:05 AM
Dawson will probably win most of the rounds en route to a wide UD.
But all Diaconu needs to win is to land one clean shot.
DanePugilist
08-30-2007, 12:06 AM
Dawson will be a definite favorite, but everything is possible in boxing, and Dawson is still young, and will make mistakes like most young fighters do.
When you fight a man with pop, you better watch out.
True, but I don't think Dawson is as chinny as people are making out. I have yet to see him actually hurt.
Dr Gonzo
08-30-2007, 01:18 AM
True, but I don't think Dawson is as chinny as people are making out. I have yet to see him actually hurt.
He looked stunned more than anything when he went down in the Adamek fight
DanePugilist
08-30-2007, 02:00 AM
I know what you mean about pop is that why Kessler pulled out of fighting Danny Green:yepNo, Kessler knows how to watch out. I think he thought that one Aussie would suffice, and why not take the best of the two? Besides beating two Aussies would make him rather impopular in Australia, and he enjoys being liked.
I know what you mean about pop. Thats the noise Mundines dick makes when he pulls it out of my bum hole:yep
Is that so? Your Dad must be so proud Shooter! He taught you well.
DanePugilist
08-30-2007, 02:02 AM
Is that so? Your Dad must be so proud Shooter! He taught you well.:lol: :lol: :lol: - best laugh of the day - good job.
DanePugilist
08-30-2007, 02:15 AM
Why was Kessler afraid of green is what I meant danep, btw when Mundine fought green he was much better fihter when he fought Kessler 18 months before, can you explain why Kessler got cold feet?I don't remember the details - but fear was never an issue, why would it? Green is a tier 2 fighter.
Yes, Mundine was better, but you have to remember that Kessler had recovered from a slipped disc one month prior to meeting Choc. Furthermore, Kessler is much better also, and now(came when he was facing Choc) has a martial arts physical trainer to prevent further back injuries.
Decebal
08-30-2007, 05:19 AM
Just remember where you heard it first.
...hmmm...I heard it first from...Amsterdam :D
pioterbezkitu
08-30-2007, 07:36 AM
I think Adrian's power is overrated. Yeah, he has good power, but in no means he's a great puncher. He fought a lot of fighters from lower weights (even some guys who fought in jr middle before). And he couldn't KO guys who went to the canvas in fights with super middles with less power.
Decebal
08-30-2007, 07:38 AM
I think Adrian's power is overrated. Yeah, he has good power, but in no means he's a great puncher. He fought a lot of fighters from lower weights (even some guys who fought in jr middle before). And he couldn't KO guys who went to the canvas in fights with super middles with less power.
true...let's see what happens...:good
Diaconnu has improved a lot in his past three or four fights, I never actually thought he could end up in a championship fight. That doesn't mean that he's going to win though. It's pretty clear that Dawson is superior in every aspects except for chin and power. Adrian's only chance is to catch Dawson with one of his wide left hook and finish him off.
Amsterdam
08-30-2007, 07:49 AM
Just remember where you heard it first. Diaconu had a great amatuer career, but is being over rated for an impressive KO of a journeyman. He doesn't have anything apart from power that can really trouble Dawson. Dawson will just be too quick and will use his angles and combination punching to befuddle the slower challenger.
I've been saying this since the fight was announced. I also said Dawson would thrash him and stop him late, I stand by that.
pipe wrenched
08-30-2007, 08:09 AM
I only saw Diaconu vs. Rico Hoye. Hell of a performance but I would like to see more (of both of them really). Gut instinct says Dawson, but I've seen a lot of people giving high praise to Diaconu, so to me it's up in the air.
nrgetic
08-30-2007, 09:49 AM
Diaconu will need to adjust his come forward style as Dawson will pick him apart. Wide UD win for Dawson unless Diaconu can land the bomb(s)
PacDbest
08-30-2007, 11:42 AM
I only saw Diaconu vs. Rico Hoye. Hell of a performance but I would like to see more (of both of them really). Gut instinct says Dawson, but I've seen a lot of people giving high praise to Diaconu, so to me it's up in the air.
Youtube has a lot of Diaconu fights, seen some already and I like what I see. He has Good quickness, nice combination, Good head movement, good footwork(not Flatfooted), Killer instinct. I'm picking Diaconu by KO.
PacDbest
08-30-2007, 11:46 AM
Diaconu will need to adjust his come forward style as Dawson will pick him apart. Wide UD win for Dawson unless Diaconu can land the bomb(s)
If Dawson will use the come forward style, he'll be KOed early. I think Dawson will try to box & win the 1st 2 rds, Diaconu will catch Dawson around rd 3 then will finish Dawson by rd 7-9.
PacDbest
08-30-2007, 11:47 AM
I've been saying this since the fight was announced. I also said Dawson would thrash him and stop him late, I stand by that.
That's why I pick Diaconu.
PH|LLA
08-30-2007, 11:51 AM
Just remember where you heard it first. Diaconu had a great amatuer career, but is being over rated for an impressive KO of a journeyman. He doesn't have anything apart from power that can really trouble Dawson. Dawson will just be too quick and will use his angles and combination punching to befuddle the slower challenger.
:rofl you must be seriously delusional
most people already knew this a while ago :lol:
Decebal
08-30-2007, 12:05 PM
That's why I pick Diaconu.
:lol:
with some posters, betting on the exact opposite of what they advise seems a wise choice...but not Amsterdam! Besides, he has nothing against Diaconu as a person, and more importantly, nothing against his chin...so...:verysad
Zakman
08-30-2007, 12:29 PM
DDawson will probably win most of the rounds en route to a wide UD.
But all Diaconu needs to win is to land one clean shot.
Exactly. And Dawson has already shown he doesn't take the greatest shot. This is a very winnable fight for Diaconu. :nod
Pimp C
08-30-2007, 12:33 PM
I agree Dawson will give Diaconu a boxing lesson.
Fab2333
08-30-2007, 12:52 PM
Dawson will probably win most of the rounds en route to a wide UD.
But all Diaconu needs to win is to land one clean shot.:thumbsup
and Dawson isnt being trained by FMsr. anymore, so changing trainers in between fights could b detrimental. But he does have the skill to win the fight
PacDbest
08-30-2007, 12:54 PM
:thumbsup
and Dawson isnt being trained by FMsr. anymore, so changing trainers in between fights could b detrimental. But he does have the skill to win the fight
Dawson got the skills but not the chin.
Fab2333
08-30-2007, 01:01 PM
Dawson got the skills but not the chin.
I agree with that, He can b hurt
Zakman
08-30-2007, 01:11 PM
Dawson got the skills but not the chin.
Bingo. :yep The question is whether Diaconu is the one who can take advantage of those shaky whiskers.
Decebal
08-30-2007, 01:14 PM
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Exactly. And Dawson has already shown he doesn't take the greatest shot. This is a very winnable fight for Diaconu. :nod
Importantly, Diaconu seems to be full of confidence...he trains hard and goes in there with nothing to lose and much to gain...he is HUNGRY! Yes...more hungry than Dawson...:nod
DacianWolf23
08-31-2007, 01:24 AM
Dawson's overrated. Maybe Diaconu is too. Still, it's up in the air and should be a great fight. I know who I'll be rooting for...WAR DACIA!
Dawson has all the tools to be a future P4P star. Him facing a dangerous puncher like Diaconu considering most view his chin as average says a lot about his confidence.
Importantly, Diaconu seems to be full of confidence...he trains hard and goes in there with nothing to lose and much to gain...he is HUNGRY! Yes...more hungry than Dawson...:nod
Posts like this frustrate me. How would you know who is more hungry? When you are talking about 2 professional fighters at this level, hunger will VERY RARELY be a deciding factor.
Dawson has all the tools to be a future P4P star. Him facing a dangerous puncher like Diaconu considering most view his chin as average says a lot about his confidence.
Good post. This is VERY high risk and low reward by Dawson. A sign of good things to come perhaps.
I've been saying this since the fight was announced. I also said Dawson would thrash him and stop him late, I stand by that.
I said it before the fight was announced when all the huggers were jumping of the adamek express and onto Diaconu's nuts. But who cares really. I think Dawson will thoroughly beat him, although I highly doubt he will stop him. What makes you think he will stop him late?
:rofl you must be seriously delusional
most people already knew this a while ago :lol:
It was a light hearted joke idiot... Do you really think I thought I was actually the very first person on the boards to talk about this fight?
Decebal
08-31-2007, 04:27 AM
Dawson's overrated. Maybe Diaconu is too. Still, it's up in the air and should be a great fight. I know who I'll be rooting for...WAR DACIA!
:lol: welcome on board!:happy :happy :happy
:party :party :party
Decebal
08-31-2007, 04:32 AM
Posts like this frustrate me. How would you know who is more hungry? When you are talking about 2 professional fighters at this level, hunger will VERY RARELY be a deciding factor.
I'll tell you why I said that: Diaconu is considered slow/unfit/easily tired...if he is as hungry as I say he is...he will train hard and improve fitness-wise, so he'll have more of a chance. Secondly, because he is so hungry, he will really want to win this, and train as if he does. In his situation, it would be easy to resign oneself to putting in a good show and losing graciously. I doubt he thinks like that. So he will train hard and come in with a positive mental attitude. But...we shall see, and all our questions will be answered.
Still, I disagree with you that hunger is rarely a deciding factor. If you don't have the hunger and will to win, you will not have a chance of winning unless you are much better. I am not saying Dawson will take Diaconu lightly, but he will not take him as seriously as Diaconu takes Dawson, if you see what I mean. And given that Dawson is by far the favourite, and rightfully so, suggests he might not be fully motivated for this one - perhaps he doesn't need to be either, to win - in any case, my point would stand!
Decebal
08-31-2007, 04:35 AM
Good post. This is VERY high risk and low reward by Dawson. A sign of good things to come perhaps.
Of course it is a good sign! Dawson has won many fans when he decided to fight the live "dangerous" Diaconu instead of a has-been NAME like Tarver. He looks to be one of the new breed of North American fighters who will gun for the best out there, take risks and dare to be great! GO DAWSON!:happy
Maxime
08-31-2007, 05:08 AM
Dawson has all the tools to be a future P4P star. Him facing a dangerous puncher like Diaconu considering most view his chin as average says a lot about his confidence.
All it says is he likes he's belt. Because if he wasnt fighting Diaconu he'd get stripped. Plus he's getting the biggest purse of his career. ;)
Decebal
08-31-2007, 05:13 AM
All it says is he likes he's belt. Because if he wasnt fighting Diaconu he'd get stripped. Plus he's getting the biggest purse of his career. ;)
The cold, unsentimental, business-like voice of reason....raining on all our parades...:-(
Robot16
08-31-2007, 08:23 AM
Yeh i agree with MSTR, imo Chad will have the fight all his way and maybe end it with a ko.
Just remember where you heard it first. Diaconu had a great amatuer career, but is being over rated for an impressive KO of a journeyman. He doesn't have anything apart from power that can really trouble Dawson. Dawson will just be too quick and will use his angles and combination punching to befuddle the slower challenger.
Well spoken!
Diaconu is a one-dimensional and very predictable fighter who can bang a bit.On top of that all he is bloody slow.Dawson will probably win a wide point decision against the limited Romanian.He for sure has a puncher's chance,but I guess Dawson's chin isnt that bad.
Diaconu had a "great" amateur career? He was nothing special at the amateurs.He couldnt hold a candle to his rivals from Cuba or the countries of the former soviet union.
Decebal
08-31-2007, 11:25 AM
Well spoken!
Diaconu is a one-dimensional and very predictable fighter who can bang a bit.On top of that all he is bloody slow.Dawson will probably win a wide point decision against the limited Romanian.He for sure has a puncher's chance,but I guess Dawson's chin isnt that bad.
Diaconu had a "great" amateur career? He was nothing special at the amateurs.He couldnt hold a candle to his rivals from Cuba or the countries of the former soviet union.
Maybe you are right! Maybe he is a one-hit wonder. Maybe Dawson will not even have to do anything remotely special to beat the limited Romanian. If so...many of us will be disappointed, not least because Dawson will have missed the chance to truly shine, as we feel he is truly capable. Let us wait and see. :good
PH|LLA
08-31-2007, 12:18 PM
All it says is he likes he's belt. Because if he wasnt fighting Diaconu he'd get stripped. Plus he's getting the biggest purse of his career. ;)
bingo
andyZOR
08-31-2007, 03:36 PM
The shark smells blood.
rodney
08-31-2007, 03:52 PM
Dawson will probably win most of the rounds en route to a wide UD.
But all Diaconu needs to win is to land one clean shot.
Your absolutely right.
Dawson is much better, but, if he make one mistake, he may have no head left.
This may be interesting.
Odds are that he will probably make a few mistakes.
goofy
09-01-2007, 05:00 AM
GO ADRIAN :happy :happy :happy
But pls be gentle ... Chad is not as bad as they say he is ... so he deserves to live :lol:.
All it takes is one punch ( that will even the speed and the skills between the two fighters). The second punch will end a promising career. :deal
I'll tell you why I said that: Diaconu is considered slow/unfit/easily tired...if he is as hungry as I say he is...he will train hard and improve fitness-wise, so he'll have more of a chance. Secondly, because he is so hungry, he will really want to win this, and train as if he does. In his situation, it would be easy to resign oneself to putting in a good show and losing graciously. I doubt he thinks like that. So he will train hard and come in with a positive mental attitude. But...we shall see, and all our questions will be answered.
Still, I disagree with you that hunger is rarely a deciding factor. If you don't have the hunger and will to win, you will not have a chance of winning unless you are much better. I am not saying Dawson will take Diaconu lightly, but he will not take him as seriously as Diaconu takes Dawson, if you see what I mean. And given that Dawson is by far the favourite, and rightfully so, suggests he might not be fully motivated for this one - perhaps he doesn't need to be either, to win - in any case, my point would stand!
I don't think motivation is that big a factor for a young undefeated champion making his first title defence.
He would be on top of the world at the moment and looking to cement a legacy. Maybe at the later stages of his career but definitely not now, especially against a dangerous opponent.
When your a pro fighter, and have been for a very long time, with a team around you watching and monitoring your every move, IMO the chances of motivational problems occuring are very slim.
Still, if thats you opinion fair enough, I just don't particularly agree.
nrgetic
09-01-2007, 05:38 AM
The shark smells blood.
He may well smell blood but it could be his own
Maybe you are right! Maybe he is a one-hit wonder. Maybe Dawson will not even have to do anything remotely special to beat the limited Romanian. If so...many of us will be disappointed, not least because Dawson will have missed the chance to truly shine, as we feel he is truly capable. Let us wait and see. :good
I will root for the Romanian,but I would be surprised if he knocked out Dawson.IMO he wont be able to win a point decision against the slick and skilled American.
Decebal
09-01-2007, 06:43 AM
I will root for the Romanian,but I would be surprised if he knocked out Dawson.IMO he wont be able to win a point decision against the slick and skilled American.
I will not so much root for the Romanian, as hope that he sticks to his gameplan, fights pluckily and aggressively, to win. I will root for a boxing masterclass from Dawson. If both fighters do the thing they have to do to win to the best of their abilities, it should be a very entertaining fight, and great for both of their careers, win or lose. :happy
Diaconu CANNOT possibly outbox Dawson, so he cannot win by decision unless it comes down to a couple of KDs...but the way I see it, Diaconu won't KD Dawson more than once without in fact KOing him or TKOing him...so, 30% chance of a Diaconu KO/TKO and 70% chance of a Dawson wide UD. That is how I see it.
Decebal
09-01-2007, 06:45 AM
I don't think motivation is that big a factor for a young undefeated champion making his first title defence.
He would be on top of the world at the moment and looking to cement a legacy. Maybe at the later stages of his career but definitely not now, especially against a dangerous opponent.
When your a pro fighter, and have been for a very long time, with a team around you watching and monitoring your every move, IMO the chances of motivational problems occuring are very slim.
Still, if thats you opinion fair enough, I just don't particularly agree.
The motivation of Dawson was never in any doubt. On the other hand, given the difference in class between the two, and the fact that Dawson is the massive favourite, one would expect Diaconu to not be fully turned on for this, thinking that he can really win it, save by some lucky punch. My point was that Diaconu really DOES think he can beat Dawson, will train as such, and is likely to fight as such. Hope I'm not wrong about the last bit. :D
goofy
09-02-2007, 04:15 AM
I am surprised to see how u guys give so little chance to Diaconu. He is stronger and dangerous. Those slicky boxers dont have a chance unless they run all the fight or they pack some serious power. U think that a couple of jabs will keep Diaconu away? The overated here is Chad.
Stinky gloves
09-02-2007, 04:23 AM
He better box his chin instead his ears.
nrgetic
09-02-2007, 05:20 AM
After losing cash on Holt because of his low punch resistance I might have another look at Dawson on account of him hitting the canvas when he gets tagged. He is 10 times the boxers Diaconu is but that didn't matter much in the Holt vs Torres fight
Robot16
09-02-2007, 05:40 AM
I don't think motivation is that big a factor for a young undefeated champion making his first title defence.
He would be on top of the world at the moment and looking to cement a legacy. Maybe at the later stages of his career but definitely not now, especially against a dangerous opponent.
When your a pro fighter, and have been for a very long time, with a team around you watching and monitoring your every move, IMO the chances of motivational problems occuring are very slim.
Still, if thats you opinion fair enough, I just don't particularly agree.
This is his 2nd defence.
But Dawson should win this fight handlily, people refer to him getting dropped by Adamek, well Adamek is one good fighter.
Decebal
09-02-2007, 05:45 AM
...people refer to him getting dropped by Adamek, well Adamek is one good fighter.
:yep
crashzzz
09-02-2007, 12:32 PM
This is his 2nd defence.
But Dawson should win this fight handlily, people refer to him getting dropped by Adamek, well Adamek is one good fighter.
True, but it's how he reacted after being dropped that should be worrysome for his trainers...
Basically put, while watching this fight, I thought Diaconu had no chance whatsoever of winning against Dawson. Dawson looked too quick and skilled... But after he went down, and the way he boxed after that, I think it's perfectly reasonable to believe that Diaconu may have a chance of pulling off an upset...
crashzzz
09-02-2007, 12:35 PM
...and maybe that's why Mayweather Sr. left team Dawson, 'cause he didn't want to be held responsible for the upset of year... :yep
Decebal
09-02-2007, 12:40 PM
...and maybe that's why Mayweather Sr. left team Dawson, 'cause he didn't want to be held responsible for the upset of year... :yep
:lol: ...seriously, though...why did Sr. leave Dawson?:think
Decebal
09-02-2007, 12:47 PM
adrian "the shark" diaconu will be a tiny little kipper by the end of the bout
Yeah...but a small fishbone can kill too!;)
:lol: ...seriously, though...why did Sr. leave Dawson?:think
There was an interview on ESB's front page--I'm sur eyou could find it, given some digging around--stating that Sr. hadn't received a call from Chad since the Adamek fight (this was a month or so before his first title defence). Sr. was pretty pissed. :rofl
For some unknown reason Chad decided to let Sr. go...perhaps some of the "I made Chad champ!" BS that came out of Sr.'s mouth after training Dawson for a mere 5 weeks pissed him off? :think
Decebal
09-02-2007, 02:47 PM
There was an interview on ESB's front page--I'm sur eyou could find it, given some digging around--stating that Sr. hadn't received a call from Chad since the Adamek fight (this was a month or so before his first title defence). Sr. was pretty pissed. :rofl
For some unknown reason Chad decided to let Sr. go...perhaps some of the "I made Chad champ!" BS that came out of Sr.'s mouth after training Dawson for a mere 5 weeks pissed him off? :think
:good
teekay00
09-04-2007, 05:35 AM
ok dawson was knocked down by eric harding 3 fights ago in the first round and by adamek in the 11th 2 fights ago, Ruiz was nowhwere near his level though so he couldnt even touch dawson in his last fight. Could we all agree that Adrian Diaconu is at least as good as Adamek and Harding? I think so, If Diaconu knocks down Chad Dawson, he will get back up and get finished off by AD cuz when a Shark smells blood, he finishes his prey. DIACONU IS "THE SHARK"!
Fat Tony
09-04-2007, 06:10 AM
Could we all agree that Adrian Diaconu is at least as good as Adamek (...)?
NO.
Decebal
09-04-2007, 06:12 AM
NO.
:good But he could pose more of a threat to Dawson than TA has...if it ALL goes to plan for him. At least, let's hope his attitude is better than that of TA.
crashzzz
09-04-2007, 10:05 AM
... Could we all agree that Adrian Diaconu is at least as good as Adamek?
no, but we can agree that he is a bigger puncher only.
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