View Full Version : McBride says he benches 460!!
Grabonator
08-30-2007, 07:10 AM
i cant believe that! Thats VERRY much! he said he benched 260 before Tyson and thats already much but 460!? Anyway, it wont use him much in the boxing ring. But thats verry impressive.
achillesthegreat
08-30-2007, 07:12 AM
Pounds?
If he is naturally strong then its believable.
Amsterdam
08-30-2007, 07:13 AM
Maybe not, but it's not any big claim for a man his size. I bench 270 pounds and I am 165. McBride weighs 260+.
he's a big dude so why not. i got a buddy who is around 220 can bench that.
PowerPuncher
08-30-2007, 07:30 AM
He doesn't bench 460, he has no muscle and is all fat, plus hes hardly explosive.
Plus hes shown himself up lying already - no way hes hasn't added 200lbs to his bench press. So he was either lying before or now. Hes lying now, but most guys lie about bench
emanuel_augustus
08-30-2007, 07:50 AM
No wonder he can't box if he's training to max his bench press. Wasted effort.
He doesn't bench 460, he has no muscle and is all fat, plus hes hardly explosive.
Plus hes shown himself up lying already - no way hes hasn't added 200lbs to his bench press. So he was either lying before or now. Hes lying now, but most guys lie about bench
When I was working out when I weighed 155lb I was benching 250. So I have no doubt that hes up there. And also just because he benches that much doesn't mean anything. It means he can bench that and nothing else.
WhataRock
08-30-2007, 08:07 AM
A prime example as to why weight training has nothing to do with how well you can fight.
theHawtness
08-30-2007, 08:51 AM
check out tank abbot's bench press at youtube. fuckin 600lbs (FYI, tank abbot is MMa fighter.) people didn't credit it because they say he "bounced" it on his chest. lol.
WhataRock
08-30-2007, 08:54 AM
Yeah I know, what the fuck does that even mean. He is still lifting it.
When I bench its harder going all the way down like that.
fists of fury
08-30-2007, 09:05 AM
I have a hard time believing people who claim bench presses of 400 pounds plus. That is a ton of weight gents.
Former professional bodybuilder Dave Fisher was open and honest about his lifts and claimed his record bench was 440. His off-season weight must have been about 260 pounds or so.
He too laughed at most these claims of 500+ pounds bench presses banded about so often.
I have 2 of Ronnie Coleman's DVD's at home, Unblelievable and Cost Of Redemption.
He doesn't exceed 460 pounds in any of his bench presses, and yes he's struggling (this is for 6-8 reps, but still.) Now, Coleman has long been considered one of the strongest bodybuilders on the planet as well as one of the largest. He weighs well over 300 in the off-season and deadlifts 800 pounds.
That Tank Abbot "bench press" is not what I'd call a bench press. He bounces that thing off his chest and arches his back in the video. Using perfect form, he'd be very lucky to hit 500 pounds.
Zakman
08-30-2007, 09:05 AM
A prime example as to why weight training has nothing to do with how well you can fight.
Exactly. That's the lesson here!!:good:lol:
boxingcar
08-30-2007, 09:09 AM
i cant believe that! Thats VERRY much! he said he benched 260 before Tyson and thats already much but 460!? Anyway, it wont use him much in the boxing ring. But thats verry impressive.
600 pounds...raw......that's mma fighter tank abbott...
DJ2O-tnlMlo
Tank is 6'0 and 250 lbs
fists of fury
08-30-2007, 09:11 AM
I bench 270 pounds and I am 165.
For reps? Hurm. ;)
fists of fury
08-30-2007, 09:13 AM
600 pounds...raw......that's mma fighter tank abbott...
DJ2O-tnlMlo
Tank is 6'0 and 250 lbs
That ain't a bench press. He lowers it fine and then bounces it off his chest. He actually only lifts the weight about 3 inches, in his strongest range of motion.
Obviously a strong, strong man, but that lift would be disqualified in a powrlifting competition.
WhataRock
08-30-2007, 09:15 AM
In my experience is its just a male thing to talk up how much you bench. Just as Im sure every dude says they have a bigger dick then they actually do.
I bench what I bench, which is a little over my bodyweight, and I never do any less than 6 reps unless I keep doing sets to failure. Sometimes I feel like a bit of a weak cunt when dudes come tell me they can life like 120kg (260 pounds) when they weight about the same as me. Then I actually see what they can actually lift.
Its always at least 10kg less and they can only do one shitty half a rep. Then all the excuses come out, "I wasnt warmed up" "I havent been training" "Im injured", "I thought the bar weighed more".
They are just cheating themselves in the end.
Note: My dick is fucking huge :lol: :tong
WhataRock
08-30-2007, 09:16 AM
That ain't a bench press. He lowers it fine and then bounces it off his chest. He actually only lifts the weight about 3 inches, in his strongest range of motion.
Obviously a strong, strong man, but that lift would be disqualified in a powrlifting competition.
Ok I didnt understand that was such an advantage.
boxingcar
08-30-2007, 09:17 AM
That ain't a bench press. He lowers it fine and then bounces it off his chest. He actually only lifts the weight about 3 inches, in his strongest range of motion.
Obviously a strong, strong man, but that lift would be disqualified in a powrlifting competition.
like you said...obviously..a strong strong man though...(this ain't no powerlifting competition)...still impressive for a guy of his size.
lefthook31
08-30-2007, 09:44 AM
who cares, he will never be able to fight
Grabonator
08-30-2007, 09:49 AM
Maybe not, but it's not any big claim for a man his size. I bench 270 pounds and I am 165. McBride weighs 260+.
You bench verry often dont you??
Grabonator
08-30-2007, 09:52 AM
600 pounds...raw......that's mma fighter tank abbott...
DJ2O-tnlMlo
Tank is 6'0 and 250 lbs
Looks verry dangerous!!
I don't care if McBride could bench 1,000 pounds he is shit as a fighter.
Rakim
08-30-2007, 10:16 AM
i have been competeing in power lifting for many years. the rule of thumb is, benching double your body weight is pretty good strength. not great, but above average, and if you can do more than dbl than your getting to the point of great strength. so if he weighs 25o than he is nothing special. it may look good to dudes who son't lift, or are way lighter than him, but the truth is it is not that impressive. to be impressive he should be doing like 550 of so.
I can't even bench my own bodyweight yet!
PowerPuncher
08-30-2007, 10:21 AM
When I was working out when I weighed 155lb I was benching 250. So I have no doubt that hes up there. And also just because he benches that much doesn't mean anything. It means he can bench that and nothing else.
The fact he said 1 day he can only bench 260 and another day he can bench 460 gives you no doubts?
bigjake
08-30-2007, 10:21 AM
he's a big dude so why not. i got a buddy who is around 220 can bench that.
i hear george chuvalo is bench pressing that at 69 years of age
Jazzo
08-30-2007, 10:25 AM
A person who weighs less should get no extra credit for the same amount of weight moved.
Jazzo
08-30-2007, 10:29 AM
I can't even bench my own bodyweight yet!
I have read some of your posts on the training forum, and you have not been training for very long.
The biggest factor in determining who can bench what, is the time they have spent working on it.
Zakman
08-30-2007, 10:33 AM
I don't care if McBride could bench 1,000 pounds he is shit as a fighter.
The guy could bench a friggin' ton, and it still isn't gonna help with that china chin of his. Look for him to get starched - again - by Golota!:yep
aramini
08-30-2007, 10:46 AM
I've seen Rahman rep over 400 lbs at the 24 hour fitness on Trop and Decatur here in Las Vegas while Leonard Ellerbe just kind of walks around the gym. Rahman is immensely, immensely strong, both in legs and the upper body. I think an athlete of that size should be able to get to that level if they train for it, but I agree it is a waste of time to train for high, high bench numbers when you are fighting.
Floyd comes in there but I've never seen him lift - just go play basketball.
Bobby
08-30-2007, 10:47 AM
until i see someone actually bench what they say, i never beleive it, 99% of the time people inflate their numbers, i dont beleive mcbride can bench 460 or close to it
Carlos Primera
08-30-2007, 11:02 AM
I don't care if McBride could bench 1,000 pounds he is shit as a fighter.
damn straight:deal
diamondDave
08-30-2007, 11:03 AM
Thats good that McBride can bench that much...that way he won't have any problem pushing himself up off the canvas after Golota starts playing pinata with him! :D
KO byBRIGGS
08-30-2007, 12:05 PM
have a hard time believing people who claim bench presses of 400 pounds plus. That is a ton of weight gents.
Former professional bodybuilder Dave Fisher was open and honest about his lifts and claimed his record bench was 440. His off-season weight must have been about 260 pounds or so.
He too laughed at most these claims of 500+ pounds bench presses banded about so often.
I have 2 of Ronnie Coleman's DVD's at home, Unblelievable and Cost Of Redemption.
He doesn't exceed 460 pounds in any of his bench presses, and yes he's struggling (this is for 6-8 reps, but still.) Now, Coleman has long been considered one of the strongest bodybuilders on the planet as well as one of the largest. He weighs well over 300 in the off-season and deadlifts 800 pounds.
That Tank Abbot "bench press" is not what I'd call a bench press. He bounces that thing off his chest and arches his back in the video. Using perfect form, he'd be very lucky to hit 500 pounds.460 is not out of the question, anyone into working out knows what is realistic. I benched 295lbs. when I was just over 200lbs a few years ago. I got lazy after and have never been as strong as I was then but I`m sure I would have kept getting stronger. Also steroids can only give you so much strength, there is a natural strength element to it. I am positive that if I used steroids I would bench over 400lbs.
KO byBRIGGS
08-30-2007, 12:07 PM
until i see someone actually bench what they say, i never beleive it, 99% of the time people inflate their numbers, i dont beleive mcbride can bench 460 or close to it
I used to think that until I saw someone I used to work out with on steroids who was 165lbs and benched 320 lbs.
Loufatski
08-30-2007, 01:04 PM
i cant believe that! Thats VERRY much! he said he benched 260 before Tyson and thats already much but 460!? Anyway, it wont use him much in the boxing ring. But thats verry impressive.
He'll need the strength to push himself up off the canvas, and when he does he should consider signing up with "Strongman".
Loufatski
08-30-2007, 01:07 PM
A prime example as to why weight training has nothing to do with how well you can fight.
Right on! Benching don't do a thing. For heavyweights you need arms, neck, back, overall thickness and natural power. Great legs help too, but not tree trunks.
Drew101
08-30-2007, 01:09 PM
You'd think someone that strong would have been able to lift himself off of the canvas against Louis Monaco and Mike Mollo...:D
youthmann
08-30-2007, 01:33 PM
Hey - I can only bench 90pound and I weight 245pound my self. Is that good?
sonny73
08-30-2007, 01:54 PM
i have been competeing in power lifting for many years. the rule of thumb is, benching double your body weight is pretty good strength. not great, but above average, and if you can do more than dbl than your getting to the point of great strength. so if he weighs 25o than he is nothing special. it may look good to dudes who son't lift, or are way lighter than him, but the truth is it is not that impressive. to be impressive he should be doing like 550 of so.
If you were just a powerlifter double your body weight would be ok but I think for a pro boxer to do that is special.Some of the top rugby players can do double body weight and still run around for 80 minutes,that is pretty inpressive.
geppy
08-30-2007, 02:03 PM
Did Mcbride bench that much when he fought Mike Mollo? I wonder how good Mollo is , because he crushed Mcbride quick and brutally ?
Sonny's jab
08-30-2007, 02:15 PM
you can not compare bodybuilder juice heads to powerlifting.
shouldn't that be "you can not compare bodybuilder juice heads to powerlifter juice heads." ?
:lol:
Sonny's jab
08-30-2007, 02:21 PM
Maybe he should challenge Louis Monaco to a Bench Press contest.
Sonny's jab
08-30-2007, 02:28 PM
nah, i have been competing for many years, and never touched the shit. steroids are not used in powerlifitng nearly as much., the testing is non existant in body building, and used all the time in powerlifting since it is an olympic event.
I would guess most (if not all) the elite powerlifters (the guys setting records etc.) are using drugs.
The WPC federation has no testing, so all the guys can use.
The IPF has testing but I doubt many of the champions are clean. There are lots of things they cannot test for.
Drug use is rife in Powerlifting.
Fab2333
08-30-2007, 02:34 PM
Hey - I can only bench 90pound and I weight 245pound my self. Is that good?:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:lol::lol::lol:
better start hitting the pushups young fellow
box03
08-30-2007, 03:52 PM
not in any world event where the testing is hardcore. on the state level here in ny we are tested, and i am sure you have some cheaters as in any arena, but by and large most dudes are clean. i have lifted against the same dudes for years, and you get to know people pretty well, and it is not hard to see if a dude is juicing. you can doubt all you want, but the tests are done, and thats that. it is way way more prevelant in body building. if you dont think so your a moron, and dont know shit. Theres definitely a higher use of steroids in body building where getting heavy pumps and better vascularity is the norm but in power lifting there is also significant amount of people who use it also where you need the edge in strength where steroids would get you stronger faster and help you when you hit a plateau in your workout regimen
BITCH ASS
08-30-2007, 04:08 PM
600 pounds...raw......that's mma fighter tank abbott...
DJ2O-tnlMlo
Tank is 6'0 and 250 lbs
Good enough for me.
Dude is strong as fuck.
heerko koois
08-30-2007, 04:12 PM
I have a hard time believing people who claim bench presses of 400 pounds plus. That is a ton of weight gents.
Former professional bodybuilder Dave Fisher was open and honest about his lifts and claimed his record bench was 440. His off-season weight must have been about 260 pounds or so.
He too laughed at most these claims of 500+ pounds bench presses banded about so often.
I have 2 of Ronnie Coleman's DVD's at home, Unblelievable and Cost Of Redemption.
He doesn't exceed 460 pounds in any of his bench presses, and yes he's struggling (this is for 6-8 reps, but still.) Now, Coleman has long been considered one of the strongest bodybuilders on the planet as well as one of the largest. He weighs well over 300 in the off-season and deadlifts 800 pounds.
That Tank Abbot "bench press" is not what I'd call a bench press. He bounces that thing off his chest and arches his back in the video. Using perfect form, he'd be very lucky to hit 500 pounds.
Very good post ........:good
Wilhelm
08-30-2007, 04:16 PM
The reason I don't believe it is not because that's too much for a pro athlete to bench, it's just a lot for a guy with long arms. Benching with short arms is much easier than with long.
heerko koois
08-30-2007, 04:19 PM
The reason I don't believe it is not because that's too much for a pro athlete to bench, it's just a lot for a guy with long arms. Benching with short arms is much easier than with long.
yep.....most guys over 6 feet will not do very well.....
KO byBRIGGS
08-30-2007, 04:31 PM
The reason I don't believe it is not because that's too much for a pro athlete to bench, it's just a lot for a guy with long arms. Benching with short arms is much easier than with long.This is very true I am 6' 2 and a bit and know exactly what you mean!
TheGreat
08-30-2007, 04:33 PM
McBride should be able to bench that, the guy is is about 6'7 300 lbs so 460 isn't even alot for some one his size, now if a CW or LHW said that they bench 460 that would be an impressive feat.
box03
08-30-2007, 04:40 PM
Its possible but i dont believe it going from 260 to 460 in that amount of time is damn near impossible not even with steroids do i see that happening and if it is true I would love to meet his trainer cause he just performed a miracle
Darthmage
08-30-2007, 04:43 PM
i have been competeing in power lifting for many years. the rule of thumb is, benching double your body weight is pretty good strength. not great, but above average, and if you can do more than dbl than your getting to the point of great strength. so if he weighs 25o than he is nothing special. it may look good to dudes who son't lift, or are way lighter than him, but the truth is it is not that impressive. to be impressive he should be doing like 550 of so.
Do said competitions in powerlifting allow for steroid use?
KO byBRIGGS
08-30-2007, 04:45 PM
Its possible but i dont believe it going from 260 to 460 in that amount of time is damn near impossible not even with steroids do i see that happening and if it is true I would love to meet his trainer cause he just performed a miracle
It didnt take me that long to get my bench from 225 to 295lbs so in that time I have no doubt it could be done there are supplements other than steroids that help with strength. I had great success with No2 products.
box03
08-30-2007, 04:57 PM
It didnt take me that long to get my bench from 225 to 295lbs so in that time I have no doubt it could be done there are supplements other than steroids that help with strength. I had great success with No2 products. You made a great gain in lifting by 70 pounds but he gained 200 almost 3 times as much as you I lift wieghts and can honestly say that a gain like that would take me at least 3 years of hard training to do yes the first 100 pounds would probably take me a year with a good trainer and a tough schedule But the next 100 pounds would be tough because of possible injuries and plateaus would end up taking me another 2 years to gain But all that practice and effort into bench pressing which serves little help in the ring I feel more sparring would benefit him greater
TIGEREDGE
08-30-2007, 05:10 PM
jUDGING BY HIS MUSCLE MASS he doesn't look like a guy who could bench 450 but it would,t surprise me. he is a big lad BUT THE TALLER YOU ARE, the MORE EFfORT IS REQUIRED AS YOU HAVE LONGER ARMS and further to go down and up
MOST OF THE BEST LIFTERS ARE MIDGETS /small men. LOOK AT ARNIES PAL FRANCO COLUMBU AND MANY OTHERS. there under 6 foot. there are exceptions.
The world strongest men has plenty of talll men
I am 6 foot 2 and weigh over 220 pounds and i can bench close to 350, i can deadlift over 400 pounds and squat close to 400
I know a guy who doesn't carry any mass, but can squat, clean and press, and jerk some serious weights. I seen squat 500 pounds once. I seen him lift over 300 pounds over his head
MUSCLE MASS DOESN'T ALWAYS TELL YOU THE STRENGTH
That ain't a bench press. He lowers it fine and then bounces it off his chest. He actually only lifts the weight about 3 inches, in his strongest range of motion.
Obviously a strong, strong man, but that lift would be disqualified in a powrlifting competition.
that is very impressive I dare anyone to try and bounce 600lb off your chest with out cracking your chest plate . :lol:
El Bombasto
08-30-2007, 05:30 PM
i'm sure golota was really intimidated after hearing that
Stinky gloves
08-30-2007, 06:11 PM
I benched 455 11 times and I'm half the size of that fucking ogar !
455 is not 460 :deal
Max Molyneux
08-30-2007, 06:31 PM
Does McBride bench 460lbs of fat?
Some of that 260+ he weighs Is flab
Grabonator
08-30-2007, 06:43 PM
I've seen Rahman rep over 400 lbs at the 24 hour fitness on Trop and Decatur here in Las Vegas while Leonard Ellerbe just kind of walks around the gym. Rahman is immensely, immensely strong, both in legs and the upper body. I think an athlete of that size should be able to get to that level if they train for it, but I agree it is a waste of time to train for high, high bench numbers when you are fighting.
Floyd comes in there but I've never seen him lift - just go play basketball.
When did you see Rahman?
Heavyrighthand
08-30-2007, 07:29 PM
I also remember reading where Rahman said he can bench over four hundred.
McBride probably can, cause he's an immense dude.
Cachibatches
08-30-2007, 08:02 PM
I am 5' 7" 1/2. way 190, with a big gut these days, and bence about 250 maximum. And I am nothing in the gym.
I have seen guys about my height and maybe 160 throw on 270 and do sets.
460 for such a mamoth man is not that big of a deal.
DoumB
08-30-2007, 10:55 PM
are u kidding me? this is nothing extraordiinary, I'm 162 and I do 325, I have a friend who does 500+ and hes 235 pounds
box03
08-30-2007, 11:04 PM
bench pressing is overrated especially in a sport like boxing. It sounds to me the guys not very prepared and is trying to scare golota with his bench pressing statistics.When I boxed I was told not to bench press,and was told there was no use for it boxing and to just stick to pushups and chinups.
brisback
08-30-2007, 11:18 PM
Golota Ko 3
cuchulain
08-31-2007, 03:44 AM
Maybe not, but it's not any big claim for a man his size. I bench 270 pounds and I am 165. McBride weighs 260+.
25 years ago, when I was around 150, I benched 250. So for a guy McBride's size to only bench 260 seems weak.
I've no idea about whether or not 460 is good. That's a bench weight that's WAY outside my realm of experience, but for a guy his size, who knows?
Besides, would that make much difference, unless the fighters were vey close in skill level? (Andrew and Kevin are'nt.)
cuchulain
08-31-2007, 03:45 AM
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dwilson
08-31-2007, 04:20 AM
Metric or Imperial?
fists of fury
08-31-2007, 04:30 AM
Elbows locked. It's a legit bench. Quit talking out your stupid ass.
Let me guess - you bench like that and think it's 'legit.' Get real.
fists of fury
08-31-2007, 05:14 AM
I am 5' 7" 1/2. way 190, with a big gut these days, and bence about 250 maximum. And I am nothing in the gym.
I have seen guys about my height and maybe 160 throw on 270 and do sets.
460 for such a mamoth man is not that big of a deal.
You're one of the few people that I actually trust at their word, Cachi. Assuming you're natural, a 250 bench is pretty decent.
However, I have a hard time believing that anyone weighing 160 is benching 270 without serious juicing. There is just not enough mass there to do so.
Why am I so skeptical about all these big lifts? Because people bullshit all the time. People bullshit about their arm size, their dick size and their bench press all the time.
I've seen 220 pound guys struggling with 270 pound bench presses. I've seen big, muscular men who have been training for YEARS struggling to reach 300.
This is your typical man on the street who has been training for at least a few years.
Big 230 pound rugby players benching 350 for reps is not uncommon, but they are the genetically elite and by no means your average man. Big linemen weighing 320 and benching 500+ is not uncommon, but again they are the genetic creme de la creme, the top of the shit pile and are naturally big, strong men even without all the juice in their veins.
Evander Holyfield and Ben Johnson (The sprinter) benched 360 for around 10 reps. Evander probably did a bit more later in his career. However, someone here claimed benching 460 for 11 reps, whilst weighing "less than half" of Kevin McBride.
I mean, get real.
The genetically average man if he were to start training now would be doing very, very well to ever reach 300 pounds for reps. It would take years of training and dedication. Maybe a few would reach 350. Perhaps they could do a sloppy, half-assed 420 for one single rep, but it would be sloppy and half-assed. Oh, and by then they'd weigh around 220 of solid muscle anyway.
If you listened to the bullshit spewed on forums everywhere, your average 160 pounder should be benching 250. What a load of crap.
To all those guys boasting about these big lifts - video or picture or STFU. :deal
fists of fury
08-31-2007, 05:32 AM
No one cares about a little bounce with raw lifts of that weight. Your chest isn't exatcly made of rubber.
But why bounce the weight at all?
I would be more impressed if he had done a smooth, clean rep where he lowers the bar so that it touches his chest and then powers up with 500 than that sloppy one for 600.
But whatever. At least Tank posted a video. More than most would dare to do.
Jazzo
08-31-2007, 05:53 AM
But why bounce the weight at all?
I would be more impressed if he had done a smooth, clean rep where he lowers the bar so that it touches his chest and then powers up with 500 than that sloppy one for 600.
But whatever. At least Tank posted a video. More than most would dare to do.
The bounce allows you to press more. It can only be a good thing.
As long as you touch the chest and lock-out, I do not see the point in restricting the technique.
WhataRock
08-31-2007, 07:14 AM
Coolest thing Ive ever seen is in the last Commonwealth games they had some special olympics events.
A midget, like a real 4''9 midget benched a single rep of like 168kg (370 pounds), which was like nearly 3 times his weight. Fucking impressive.
The powerlift was like the equivalent of weightlifting competition in the abled bodied person games.
Then a really solid dude, who was wheelchair bound, got up and benched over 200kg, Im pretty sure it was 225kg, which is nearly 500 pounds!!!
They worked it out somehow on weight, the dwarf got the silver, the wheelchair guy got the bronze. Never saw the gold lift, must have been good.
WhataRock
08-31-2007, 07:15 AM
Actually here is the results, amazing what some people can do.
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Guy who won it was 3'11, 44kg and lifted 155kg!!!!
Thats over 3 times the dudes weight.
Jazzo
08-31-2007, 07:28 AM
Actually here is the results, amazing what some people can do.
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Guy who won it was 3'11, 44kg and lifted 155kg!!!!
Thats over 3 times the dudes weight.
But they would be destroyed by a larger person. It is silly to give somebody extra points for having a weakness (being very small).
WhataRock
08-31-2007, 07:33 AM
Yeah but look at the p4p strength of the guy.
If McBride could lift 3.5 times his weight, we are talking like about 1000pounds.
Jazzo
08-31-2007, 07:37 AM
Yeah but look at the p4p strength of the guy.
If McBride could lift 3.5 times his weight, we are talking like about 1000pounds.
And if that guy had the Size of McBride, he would lift about 1000lbs (but it doesn't really work like that anyway).
A lack of size is a weakness like any other.
WhataRock
08-31-2007, 07:39 AM
No I guess not but he is a midget. He would barely come up to my balls and he is lifting like 40kgs more than I can, just impresses me thats all.
Cachibatches
08-31-2007, 08:41 AM
You're one of the few people that I actually trust at their word, Cachi. Assuming you're natural, a 250 bench is pretty decent.
However, I have a hard time believing that anyone weighing 160 is benching 270 without serious juicing. There is just not enough mass there to do so.
Why am I so skeptical about all these big lifts? Because people bullshit all the time. People bullshit about their arm size, their dick size and their bench press all the time.
I've seen 220 pound guys struggling with 270 pound bench presses. I've seen big, muscular men who have been training for YEARS struggling to reach 300.
This is your typical man on the street who has been training for at least a few years.
Big 230 pound rugby players benching 350 for reps is not uncommon, but they are the genetically elite and by no means your average man. Big linemen weighing 320 and benching 500+ is not uncommon, but again they are the genetic creme de la creme, the top of the shit pile and are naturally big, strong men even without all the juice in their veins.
Evander Holyfield and Ben Johnson (The sprinter) benched 360 for around 10 reps. Evander probably did a bit more later in his career. However, someone here claimed benching 460 for 11 reps, whilst weighing "less than half" of Kevin McBride.
I mean, get real.
The genetically average man if he were to start training now would be doing very, very well to ever reach 300 pounds for reps. It would take years of training and dedication. Maybe a few would reach 350. Perhaps they could do a sloppy, half-assed 420 for one single rep, but it would be sloppy and half-assed. Oh, and by then they'd weigh around 220 of solid muscle anyway.
If you listened to the bullshit spewed on forums everywhere, your average 160 pounder should be benching 250. What a load of crap.
To all those guys boasting about these big lifts - video or picture or STFU. :deal
Thanks for the kind words.
But make no mistake about it, that is not my natural bench. I have been lifting weights again for about two years now. My natural was more like 150.
KO byBRIGGS
08-31-2007, 10:29 AM
Definitely alot of people on here are inflating their numbers.....dont know why people do this. We are talking for the sake of legitamacy in this post and you still get the people saying im 140lbs and bench 350. I am proud of my top bench at 295lbs and have never once even stated I could do 300 because I NEVER did. I used to squat 395 in sets of 10 but stopped because my legs were getting really big. Anyone benching 200% of their body weight has either been training for a VERY long time or is JUICING! Lets not forget midgets are often given HGH to help them grow a few extra inches so they generally also apply to this rule.
liljp361
08-31-2007, 10:29 AM
Who cares he sucks lol
splatter69
08-31-2007, 10:44 AM
I havent read any replies yet since im at work but a little perspective... shane mosley can bench 300. 460 for a man that size isnt a big deal at all.
KO byBRIGGS
08-31-2007, 10:45 AM
I havent read any replies yet since im at work but a little perspective... shane mosley can bench 300. 460 for a man that size isnt a big deal at all.He falls into both categories....works out alot and probably on juice but that is speculation. I personally think alot of guys are using but not getting caught.
if he could bench 460 with his chin it might help him vs golota....
Lampley
08-31-2007, 12:08 PM
I absolutely suck at bench. It might be my worst exercise. I am 6-2, 200. Lifting 4-5 times a week for several years, I go life and death with 240. My workout partner is 6-1, 185 and maxes at 275, and we go to the gym on an almost identical basis.
If benching double your body weight is "pretty good strength," it's a wonder I can carry my laundry basket.
I match him on most other upper body exercises except pull-ups. I see guys in the gym with shorter arms about our size doing 315-330, so McBride doing that sounds reasonable.
It also sounds stupid. He needs to be shedding weight, not building muscle mass. Not that it matters but so much, in his case. He just isn't skilled.
geppy
08-31-2007, 12:09 PM
Coolota benches cops! Mcbride has his work cut out for him.
Nokstar
08-31-2007, 12:38 PM
460 is very believable for a man of McBride's size. In fact 460 is not all that great for a man who weighs as much as he does.
lol@460 aint all that much...you guys dont have that much experience in weight training i assume. That's actually very impressive even a man his size. You can't just say well im 160 and i can bench 270 and compare it to a man his size and say its not impressive...
Most nfl players can't bench that at any weight. The MOST you'll see any man in the nfl benching is like 500.
Nokstar
08-31-2007, 12:39 PM
oh and for the man sayin he cant picture someone benching 270+ at 160-170 is juicing has no idea what he's talking about....I'm 5'10" 169 in my avi...my max bench is 325lbs...no juicing all natural.
It's called staying consistant in the gym and raising your weight over-time and good dieting with as much protein intake as possible
Lampley
08-31-2007, 01:54 PM
oh and for the man sayin he cant picture someone benching 270+ at 160-170 is juicing has no idea what he's talking about....I'm 5'10" 169 in my avi...my max bench is 325lbs...no juicing all natural.
It's called staying consistant in the gym and raising your weight over-time and good dieting with as much protein intake as possible
True, but that kind of goal is unattainable for some of us (like myself). Body type is a huge factor.
Also, your body can process only so much protein. Overdoing it doesn't do anything for you, and an imbalance in nutrition can place tremendous strain on your digestive system. Be careful.
Nokstar
08-31-2007, 02:10 PM
True, but that kind of goal is unattainable for some of us (like myself). Body type is a huge factor.
Also, your body can process only so much protein. Overdoing it doesn't do anything for you, and an imbalance in nutrition can place tremendous strain on your digestive system. Be careful.
i dont believe your first statement..because i said the same things before i started lifting and i see my results now. I had a build similar to screech from saved by the bell:lol: ...took about a year and a half to get where im at with about 20 pounds gained...consistantly lifting and monitoring my food intake making sure i ate atleast 4 full meals and the appropriate amount of protein.
dwilson
08-31-2007, 02:31 PM
LOL. Metric? That would be like 1000 pounds. Like close to the world record. mmm, no.
I could do 460gram. Although being English I have little idea how much that is.
box03
08-31-2007, 03:09 PM
lol@460 aint all that much...you guys dont have that much experience in weight training i assume. That's actually very impressive even a man his size. You can't just say well im 160 and i can bench 270 and compare it to a man his size and say its not impressive...
Most nfl players can't bench that at any weight. The MOST you'll see any man in the nfl benching is like 500. Thank you for being one of the few posting that has any knowledge on wieght lifting. Adding wieght to the bar takes time, you always have your freaks who can up add wieght 10 times faster than you but for 95 % of the rest of us it takes alot of time and hard work I think you would agree adding 200 pounds to your bench will take a couple years not a couple months with maybe the exception of juicing
andyZOR
08-31-2007, 03:39 PM
I wonder how much Briggs can bench lol.
Stinky gloves
08-31-2007, 03:43 PM
I wonder how much Briggs can bench lol.
50 lb at most, but only first 3 pushes
Darthmage
08-31-2007, 03:45 PM
I've seen a small guy around 5'7" bench 405 lbs(5 reps). He wasn't ridiculously big but looked strong as hell. The only thing i can think of is he was roiding. He looked compact and pretty normal. This happened around 7 years ago and I can vividly remember it till this day. I don't think I will ever forget that.
Zakman
08-31-2007, 03:55 PM
So is McBum scheduled to get laid out cold this weekend?
Lampley
08-31-2007, 04:34 PM
i dont believe your first statement..because i said the same things before i started lifting and i see my results now. I had a build similar to screech from saved by the bell:lol: ...took about a year and a half to get where im at with about 20 pounds gained...consistantly lifting and monitoring my food intake making sure i ate atleast 4 full meals and the appropriate amount of protein.
It's true, man, unless you don't mind adding lots of extra baggage (stomach) and ignore other aspects of physical health. Theoretically, males can add a great deal of strength over an indefinite period, but certain of us are going to be limited practically.
DoumB
08-31-2007, 04:44 PM
You're one of the few people that I actually trust at their word, Cachi. Assuming you're natural, a 250 bench is pretty decent.
However, I have a hard time believing that anyone weighing 160 is benching 270 without serious juicing. There is just not enough mass there to do so.
Why am I so skeptical about all these big lifts? Because people bullshit all the time. People bullshit about their arm size, their dick size and their bench press all the time.
I've seen 220 pound guys struggling with 270 pound bench presses. I've seen big, muscular men who have been training for YEARS struggling to reach 300.
This is your typical man on the street who has been training for at least a few years.
Big 230 pound rugby players benching 350 for reps is not uncommon, but they are the genetically elite and by no means your average man. Big linemen weighing 320 and benching 500+ is not uncommon, but again they are the genetic creme de la creme, the top of the shit pile and are naturally big, strong men even without all the juice in their veins.
Evander Holyfield and Ben Johnson (The sprinter) benched 360 for around 10 reps. Evander probably did a bit more later in his career. However, someone here claimed benching 460 for 11 reps, whilst weighing "less than half" of Kevin McBride.
I mean, get real.
The genetically average man if he were to start training now would be doing very, very well to ever reach 300 pounds for reps. It would take years of training and dedication. Maybe a few would reach 350. Perhaps they could do a sloppy, half-assed 420 for one single rep, but it would be sloppy and half-assed. Oh, and by then they'd weigh around 220 of solid muscle anyway.
If you listened to the bullshit spewed on forums everywhere, your average 160 pounder should be benching 250. What a load of crap.
To all those guys boasting about these big lifts - video or picture or STFU. :deal
ok, this is one of the most RETARDED post I have ever seen, I'm 162 pounds of NATURAL trained muscles, only use protein to get all I need to stay in shape, I bench around 315-330 depending on season time, just like nokstar said, if u have good genetics and stay in the gym all year long while training properly and putting more weight on your charges, u can get pretty high, of course over 350 pounds for a man my size is somewhat questionnable, i'm not trying to be an ass but some ppl have better genetics then other.
DoumB
08-31-2007, 04:50 PM
oh and for the man sayin he cant picture someone benching 270+ at 160-170 is juicing has no idea what he's talking about....I'm 5'10" 169 in my avi...my max bench is 325lbs...no juicing all natural.
It's called staying consistant in the gym and raising your weight over-time and good dieting with as much protein intake as possible
some ppl in here think being bigger neccesarly means stronger, thats not always the case, I've trained with a few football players in college, and I was smaller then and still benched more then them(even O-lines) this all depends on your genetics and white and red muscles tissues(not sure if its the name in english but in french its the case)
box03
08-31-2007, 05:05 PM
some ppl in here think being bigger neccesarly means stronger, thats not always the case, I've trained with a few football players in college, and I was smaller then and still benched more then them(even O-lines) this all depends on your genetics and white and red muscles tissues(not sure if its the name in english but in french its the case) But just because you can bench more than someone doesnt mean your stronger, maybe in that type of movement you are. Most sports dont care how much you can bench or even lift, sports like baseball and boxing rely little on wieght training and more on usable strength exercises. Dont get me wrong I lift wieghts and achieved good benefits in both strength and in my physique. I will admit you easily out bench me Im 6 foot 1 195 with long arms, not excuse but Im not exactly the perfect size for being a bench pressing monster but I can do 25 chinups and 7 one handed chinups which I think is pretty good in itself and comparable to someone who bounces 350 of his chest.
DoumB
08-31-2007, 06:28 PM
But just because you can bench more than someone doesnt mean your stronger, maybe in that type of movement you are. Most sports dont care how much you can bench or even lift, sports like baseball and boxing rely little on wieght training and more on usable strength exercises. Dont get me wrong I lift wieghts and achieved good benefits in both strength and in my physique. I will admit you easily out bench me Im 6 foot 1 195 with long arms, not excuse but Im not exactly the perfect size for being a bench pressing monster but I can do 25 chinups and 7 one handed chinups which I think is pretty good in itself and comparable to someone who bounces 350 of his chest.
totaly agree with you, thats y I do the boxing training too, and ur right when u have long arms it doesnt help you to bench
I don't think McBride is lying: he said:
"Before the Tyson fight I benched 260-pounds; now I can do 460, and I feel strong."
The Tyson fight was 11th June 2005. This press conference was 29th August 2007. So he's had two years and one and a half months of training in between, or 809 days. So he is benching roughly 1lb more every 4 days. Is that so impressive?
I'd say I've been adding maybe 2.5lb every 2-4 days, something like that, since I've been bench-pressing regularly, and I'm not a full-time athlete (I heard McBride was back on the buildings after Tyson; anyone know more?) but rather a guy who tends to spend 10-20 minutes per day exercising (I now do 182.5lb, and weigh 135lb; my target had been my bodyweight, then middleweight, then the Wright-Hopkins catch-weight, guess I'm now going for cruiser). People have been saying he'd need years to add the weight, but he's had years!
I agree that there's a lot more to boxing than strong triceps, and that he needs much better movement, speed, footwork and legwork, in order to be a top-tier fighter. I don't think he'll be the first Irish-born heavyweight champion of the world, unfortunately, but hey, it can't hurt, and this doesn't have to have been his whole training regime if he's done it over such a long period! Why question such a plausible claim?
Also, why is this thread the only discussion I've seen of the fight round here? (It might be because I avoid the Golota Express...)
Toopretty
08-31-2007, 08:01 PM
weight training does nothing good for boxers. Most of the time. It has to be done very very carefully. Muscle bound bench pressures cant fight for shit mainly b/c there muscles restrict there movement. I seen scrawny guys knock out bigger guys countless times.
box03
08-31-2007, 09:49 PM
I don't think McBride is lying: he said:
"Before the Tyson fight I benched 260-pounds; now I can do 460, and I feel strong."
The Tyson fight was 11th June 2005. This press conference was 29th August 2007. So he's had two years and one and a half months of training in between, or 809 days. So he is benching roughly 1lb more every 4 days. Is that so impressive?
I'd say I've been adding maybe 2.5lb every 2-4 days, something like that, since I've been bench-pressing regularly, and I'm not a full-time athlete (I heard McBride was back on the buildings after Tyson; anyone know more?) but rather a guy who tends to spend 10-20 minutes per day exercising (I now do 182.5lb, and weigh 135lb; my target had been my bodyweight, then middleweight, then the Wright-Hopkins catch-weight, guess I'm now going for cruiser). People have been saying he'd need years to add the weight, but he's had years!
I agree that there's a lot more to boxing than strong triceps, and that he needs much better movement, speed, footwork and legwork, in order to be a top-tier fighter. I don't think he'll be the first Irish-born heavyweight champion of the world, unfortunately, but hey, it can't hurt, and this doesn't have to have been his whole training regime if he's done it over such a long period! Why question such a plausible claim?
Also, why is this thread the only discussion I've seen of the fight round here? (It might be because I avoid the Golota Express...) I thought he claimed he did it in months I didnt know it took him 2 plus years, I believe him now thanks for clearing that up. I still dont know what that has to do with boxing,still an impressive feat.
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